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Removing John Leavitt gravestone photo on Suffield, Connecticut

I'm not really sure how the Commons works, but I repeatedly entered information on this subject but never received a response. And after awhile was told that I couldn't enter information because I had been blocked. After awhile, I was just scratching my head. I posted a query on my user page, but no one ever answered that either. The two photos I uploaded, as I attempted to explain, were both taken by a cousin for her personal use. She emailed them to me and said I could use them for whatever purpose I chose. I cannot see where that violates any copyright whatsoever. In any case, could someone please explain to me how the Commons works; why the two photos were removed; how one goes about getting a response to questions on the Commons; and how I can go about posting photos in the future without a problem? Many thanks for your help.MarmadukePercy 06:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I have addressed this issue repeatedly but never heard back from a soul.MarmadukePercy 01:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome from the robot who does not communicate

The bot welcome is really too much. Way too much. --Blechnic 07:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Directed user to Commons_talk:Welcome_log. Cheers, Finn Rindahl 09:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


Image:Bill Gates at CES 2007.jpg is not a duplicate of itself. /Ö 14:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. Siebrand 20:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about the wrong link. It was supposed to be a duplicate of Image:Bill_Gates_at_CES_2007_(350043329).jpg. Either of them can be deleted, but the first one is not used anywhere. --Kimse 21:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


About that translate me bit... here's the translation in Macedonian:

MKD:Датотеката Слика:COA_of_Greece.svg е заменета со Слика:Coat_of_arms_of_Greece.svg од администраторот commons:User:Siebrand: Беше во категорија "Duplicate", exact duplicate. Преведи ме!
ENG:The file Image:COA_of_Greece.svg has been replaced by Image:Coat_of_arms_of_Greece.svg by administrator commons:User:Siebrand: Was in category "Duplicate", exact duplicate. Translate me!

Admin on

Dear Siebrand, you may wish to add link to Betawiki for translation of Delinker summary. I think there this is possible. --Kaustubh (Talk) 04:18, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
CommonsDelinker uses local messages, you may have read on meta. The message above should be added you a page in the CommonsDelinker user namespace, where it will then be added as a edit summary. I cannot do anything with it, this should be dealt with locally... I'll discuss with Bryan if he feels for centralised editing messages. Cheers! Siebrand 08:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Universal replace of Image:Helium-Neon Laser.jpg

Hi. This strikes me as a bad practice, since you have universally replaced an image with a descriptive name (that was stating which type of laser it was) by one with an undescriptive name merely modified from the automatic naming by the camera. guillom 14:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


Pay attention to copyright Image:Collicuneopantani.jpg has been marked as a copyright violation. The Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You can ask questions about Commons policies in Commons:Help desk.

The file you added will soon be deleted. If you believe this image is not a copyright violation, please explain why on the image description page.

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Uploaded via SieBot--Trixt 02:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker behavior

Hi, I noticed this edit. It is not so fortunate as it removes an entry from the list of historic Valued images candidates. Is there a way I can avoid such edits happening in the future? -- Slaunger 09:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC) And this is not so good either replacing image= with the dupe name would work, but now the VIC is just useless. -- Slaunger 09:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Nothing that can be done, really... Best correct/rename media links to the new status. Cheers! Siebrand 09:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, that is a pity as in some cases the bot has removed a subpage name, which happens to be identical to a now invalid image name. It seems rather farfetched to go through a rename of a subpage just becuase an image of that name has been removed (by default the image name and subpage name are identical, but the image name can be replaced later if a dupe case occurs like this, but it is very unconvenient to rename the subpage and have it removed by the bot in such cases).
If I reinsert the subpage name, will it then be removed by the bot again, or is it a one time run for this image replacement? -- Slaunger 21:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
After the image had been replaced, and the to be deleted dupe has been orphaned, the orphan is deleted. So nothing will happen after that... Siebrand 21:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
And Siebot cannot be programmed to take exception from replacements when the image name follows the string "subpage=" in a template? What it did here is really annoying as the removal of the subpage parameter breaks the link from COM:VIC candidates to each individual review page. If this is not possible, can it then be setup to ignore certain namespaces or image pages (like COM:VIC, where I had to go mend the subpage link it removed in a template)? -- Slaunger 19:59, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

dubbele afbeelding

Siebrand, Ik zie dat je het kaartje Image:Ph locator benguet baguio.png laat verwijdern op commons, omdat er een duplicaat geupload is genaamd: Image:baguio.png. Zou je aub het tweede kaartje kunnen (laten) verwijderen. Als je namelijk goed kijkt zul je zien dat ik in het verleden al de Filipijnse kaartjes op commons gezet heb met de naam :Image:Ph locator <provincienaam> <plaatsnaam>. Het is een beetje vreemd als nu het kaartje met de totaal andere naam blijft bestaan en de andere wordt verwijderd. Alvast bedankt. Magalhães 26 apr 2008 21:46 (CEST)

Voel je vrij de tags te wisselen... Groet, Siebrand 19:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Dat heb ik net gedaan. Het was behoorlijk wat werk om alles handmatig weer op alle wikipedia's goed te zetten. Ik zou het wel fijn vinden als jij eerst even verder keek dan je neus lang is voor je die commonsdelinker in gaat schakelen om op 15 wikipedia's de image te gaan wijzigen. Magalhães 20:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Alsjeblieft. Groet, Siebrand 20:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Een normaal mens zou even zijn excuses aanbieden. Maar dat zal wel een probleem voor je zijn. Laat maar dus. Magalhães 20:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Je benadering leek me dusdanig agressief dat dit vanuit mijn perspectief niet gepast geweest zou zijn. Je handmatige correcties waren overigens totaal onnodig: CommonsDelinker had dat gewoon voor je kunnen doen... Groet, Siebrand 20:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Request about delinking bot

Please don't set it automatically to make minor edits; people who maintain articles need to see on their watchlist that a major layout change has just taken place. --Relata refero (disp.) 08:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I am not certain I agree with your idea; I will discuss this with my co-maintainer. Cheers! Siebrand 11:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate issue: Image:Sr-sj-natmon-map.jpg and Image:Santa Rosa San Jacinto NM.jpg

Hi, how do you decide which version of duplicates to keep? In this case the filename might be better in one, but the file information and particularly the categories were much, much better in the other. You decided to keep the better file name. Would you have transfered the description and the categories to the kept version? I just did it, so there is no harm done, but please take care that meta information such as descriptions and categories don't get lost by sorting out duplicates. greetings --h-stt !? 10:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

This is a job the dupe taggers have to take care of... I may notice these issues orphaning and deleting files, or I may not. If the taggers do a lousy job, I'm sure I will not be able to catch everything they let through. Just let me know if you think something needs a second closer look, or 'so fix it' if you are still able to. Cheers! Siebrand 11:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer, but obviously many if not most of those who tag duplicates don't look for these information. So I believe, you should take a look for potential loss of meta information. I know this slows down the process, but I would hate to see categories get lost, they are the prime method to prevent chaos and find images. greetings --h-stt !? 11:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


Why do you think, this Name would be better than this Name? Before the renaming there was a title everybody knows, what was to find there. Now we have a Name, who is not only bad, it also false ( a bobsled isn't a luge). Marcus Cyron 16:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

It's always the wrong name... Cheers! Siebrand 18:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Great answer, thanks. It's too hard to accept, if you made a mistake? The problem isn't to make mistakes. The problem is your arrogant habit. You work so much here, it's normal to make mistakes. But if someone tell you about that, you only answer in that way. I understand now: Siebrand never made a mistake. I will remember. Marcus Cyron 10:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
No idea how you are drawing these conclusions... Siebrand 10:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Wrong image showing up

Hi, here CommonsDelinker replaced an image with a similar one. In fact Image:Friedrich.jpg didn't show up, but de:Bild:Friedrich.jpg instead, which shows a different person. What to do?--Sitacuisses 17:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Interesting... That should not happen. Maybe it happened because the file on de.wp has been there this long and some metadata is missing (uploaded in 2003). Best strategy would be to upload the file from de.wp to Commons under another name, and fix the references on de.wp where needed. Sorry this happended; it shouldn't have... Cheers! Siebrand 18:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, I hope someone else looks after it. A quick glance at the instructions for moving images from .de to commons gives me the impression that I need to consult a lawyer before I start... --Sitacuisses 21:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
You made me laugh :) Doesn't make you wrong, though :P Siebrand 21:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

"bad name" cleanup

Thanks for cleaning up a a large number of my uploads from last half a year with "bad name" tag. --Jarekt 18:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Just try to upload them under a proper name the first time in the future :) Cheers! Siebrand 18:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I always try but in about 5-10% of uploads I mess up. Main reasons are: forgetting to change from original file name and inconsistency between upload tools (upload screen, Commonshelper, Commonplace, etc.) about need for or handling of namespace and extensions, like "Image:name.ext" . Some of them need the Image: and/or .ext parts and some want to put them themselves. If you get them wrong you get things like "Image:Image name.jpg.jpg" or "Image:name" (with no extension). Once I remember which form goes with which tool I will do much better. Cheers! --Jarekt 14:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Removing images that are duplicates

This edit strikes me as odd; not only does it leave a broken template there, but it was also unnecessary as the reference to the old image could simply have been replaced by one to the new image. Stannered 22:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

As you can see, I was *not* the deleting admin. Please ask him. Cheers! Siebrand 22:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Wybunbury Tower

Hi -- you removed several images of Wybunbury tower sourced from Geograph as duplicates. However I can't find the (unlinked) image from the edit summary "Image:Wybunbury tower.jpg" which has been left.[1] As the image was linked by several en-wiki pages, I'd be grateful if you could point me at the remaining image. Espresso Addict 16:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The name of the image should be in the deletion summary of the deleted image. If not, please show me... Siebrand 16:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
The replacement image in the deletion summary (linked above) is Image:Wybunbury tower.jpg which doesn't seem to exist. Espresso Addict 16:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Oops... Fixed... Siebrand 16:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Cheers! Espresso Addict 17:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello Siebrand. I'm missing you! Long time no seen. I'll start tagging when I'm free (I'm free at usually =) ). Greetings.--OsamaK 18:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Siebrand

Wie have a small problem. Why did you replace the Image:Nuremberg chronicles f 098v99r 1.png by Image:Nuremberg chronicles - VIENNA.png all pictures uploaded by the user schedel are konsequently named bey the pages of the book nuremberg chronikles. Therefore it may a big fault do destroy this order of a big set of pictures. Please Correct it, and keep this information for the future. -- Joergens.mi 12:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

You can fix it yourself by swapping the dupe tags. Usually for series of images there is some template description. I'll fix it if you haven't in a few hours or so... By the way, there are still duplicate pages in other publications. Do you want me to report them to you so you can fix them? Cheers! Siebrand 13:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank's that is a great idea, put it on my discussion page. Especiallay when german language texts/pictures are concerned. The best place will be User_talk:Joergens.mi#To_do. And yes I know that there is still one open item :). Even curiosities caused by the User GerWsUpload shall be reported there.

Thank you for fixing. --Joergens.mi 15:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Update afbeelding

Hallo Siebrand, ik ben soms bezig te kijken of ik een lokale afbeelding op de nl-wiki ook op Commons kan vinden in dezelfde of een hogere resolutie. Dat lukt soms waarna ik de afbeelding na aanpassing van de links kan verwijderen. Soms staat er op Commons zelfs dezelfde afbeelding in een hogere resolutie (dat is dus een meevaller), maar soms is de afbeelding op Commons in een lagere resolutie waarbij ik natuurlijk de lokale afbeelding niet verwijder en evenmin de links aanpas. Recentelijk heb ik geprobeerd de Commons versie een zelfde afbeelding maar in hogere resolutie te uploaden maar dat ging niet op de manier zoals ik had verwacht. Zo was er eerst Image:Christoph II. von Baden.jpg (408 × 599 pixels) en toen ik daaroverheen een andere versie wilde zetten kwam deze als Image:Image-Christoph II. von Baden.jpg (665 × 977 pixels) in Commons. Nu is mijn vraag, bestaat er een bezwaar tegen dergelijke updates en hoe dien ik dat aan te pakken als er geen bezwaar is. Ik liep vandaag tegen nl:Afbeelding:Emilieduchatelet.jpg die een duidelijk hogere resolutie heeft dan de Commons variant Image:Emilie du Châtelet.jpg. - Robotje 14:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Geen bezwaar tegen. Let wel op verschillen in license; werk dus eventueel de beschrijving bij. Let er bij het oploaden op dat je de naam waaronder je uploadt hetzelfde maakt aan de bestaande afbeelding. In het geval dat mislukt: tag dan de oude afbeelding als {{duplicate|te behouden.ext}}. Groet, Siebrand 14:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


Hello, first of all sorry for my english, I'm not an english speaker. I noticed that:

16:11 30 abr 2008 Siebrand (Discutir | contribuciones) borró "Image:Bush Aznar.jpg" ‎ (Dupe of Image:Bush aznar Crawford 2003.jpg)

I think that the algorythm that uses the bot is doing something wrong. I mean that the new image that was erased and replaced by this image was well categorized, and the older version was not categorized at all.

Saludos Lobo   (howl?) 17:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


restore Image:Amt Seenlandschaft Waren in MÜR.png, it was the right one. regards Geograv 14:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

And why you delete Image:Amt Waren-Land in MÜR.png now? It is not a dupe. Geograv 13:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

It came up as a byte-by-byte duplicate with an equal MD5... Siebrand 14:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but yesterday I added a new version. Geograv 15:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Some botwork, please :-)

Hello, Siebrand. Can you please do some botwork: to pre-categorize all items from Category:Bulgarian revolutionists to Category:Bulgarian revolutionaries. Thank you very, very much. :-) --Spiritia 18:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Category move requests can be made at COM:CFD or User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands. Cheers! Siebrand 21:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
10x, Spiritia 06:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


Hello Siebrand. I think we can avoid this problem without creating a new list (if you're planning to do so). I'm waiting your 'big batch' just copy and paste on my sup-pages. ;)--OsamaK 02:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

My idea is to process thousands of the easy ones first. Every iteration we will get a higher density of the harder cases. Whenever that reaches critical mass, we will go and report those... Siebrand 07:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Please, I request your attention

Hello, I saw you delete File:Mate 06.jpg ("Dupe of Image:Mate000000.JPG") but they are two problems:

  • (1) I've load the image in november 2005 and is a legitime work of my own, and
  • (2) user Nascente load the image in february 2008 as it was his own work, this is NOT true.

Also, I'd loaded under {{self2|GFDL|cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0}}, and now the image is under {{PD}}.

Please, could you see this facts? Thanks, --Tano4595 17:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

   Done Thank you for letting me know. Please choose more descriptive page names in the future... Cheers! Siebrand 17:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid it's not done 100%. The update of Image:Mate000000.JPG don't preserve the historial, not allow the use of File:Mate 06.jpg in the projects that use it. Could you restore the original? --Tano4595 17:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
The image was replaced. Siebrand 18:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I desagree the proceding. I think you must delete de newer duplicate, not the original. Otherwise, the historial is lost and the bots will delete soon File:Mate 06.jpg in the several projects that is actually in use. --Tano4595 18:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Categories in dupes

Oups, you did it again: Image:Fort McHenry Entrance.JPG was listed for deletion, but its category wasn't added to the supposed replacement: Image:FtMcHenryEntrance.JPG. I repaired it, but over the last two or three days I came to late by many of your deletions and have no way of knowing, how many categories were lost. Please take care. Preserving meta information such as categories is more important then deleting dupes. --h-stt !? 17:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


I do not know because they are deleting my pictures. I am author of them. I am a paleontologist and i collect my photographer and material. The maps that I was did and is the result of studies that I have done in places. I excavation dinosaurs and the public material that is a result of my excavations. I am the source of my pictures.Sergio kaminski 03:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Stop deleting wrong dupes

Please reinstate Image:Sv-våt.ogg and delete Image:Sv-voet.ogg instead of the other way around. The first one is the proper spelling of the word while the other is just a irrelevant Anglification that was uploaded by Ruhrjung.

Peter Isotalo 20:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Peter. Thank you for pointing that out. I will correct it. Please assume good faith: I am making thousands of edits per day. The cannot all be correct. Cheers! Siebrand 20:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This was the second time you tried to exchange the file and you also deleted the copy instead of the original.

Peter Isotalo 14:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Replaced an image with one that does not exist


Getting rid of duplicates is a good idea, but there is an error in the process. For example here, it replaced an image that is a duplicate with one that does not exist at all. The problem is that the correct name has blanks, but it substituted a name with underscores. This also happened on the Hubble Space Telescope. Since I only watch about 200 pages, the problem must be pretty common. LouScheffer 02:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Upon rechecking, it's the edit summary that refers to the picture that does not exist. The article is fine, but since the edit summary has both images as red links, I had to double check the article to see. LouScheffer 03:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
You guys have configured a crappy edit summary for CommonsDelinker on en.wp. See meta:User:CommonsDelinker for more information... Cheers! Siebrand 07:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


  The Original Barnstar
I just want to thank you for all the work you do deleting duplicates. Thanks for helping keep this place clean. Cheers, Rocket000 04:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Rocket. Siebrand 07:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Greek chief 1.JPG

hi, can you plaese delate this picture? i uploaded a better version of this picture as Tzaferis Vassilios.jpg . thank you for your help --Sir kiss 11:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Userscript images delinked

Your CommonsDelinker has made this edit. Please could you make sure that images used by gadgets and user scripts (as indicated by {{Template:scriptuse}} and placed in Category:Images_used_by_scripts) do not end up on the duplicate list and are not replaced by your bot. Thanks, Cacycle 12:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


The next time you delete a duplicate image, would you please make sure that you either keep the version that is categorized or move the categories to the version you're gonna keep. Do you have any idea how annoying and tedious it is to hunt down cases like Image:Biserica cu Cocos din Cluj-Napoca.jpg and do the same goddamn thing over again? It's quite enough that most people here don't even bother to categorize, I'd say we don't need users to remove those categories. Dahn 22:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Best try and stay civil. It's not like we have different goals... Siebrand 12:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Please DO NOT delete Image:Blason Sainte-Mère-Eglise 50-solid.svg‎!!!

It was not a duplicate. It lacked the annoying gradient which the French Wikipedia COA project includes on all their coats of arms images (to give some feeble illusion of three-dimensionality), but which makes all the colors slightly "off" (all whites beome greys) etc., and severely limits their usefulness outside of the French Wikipedia itself. AnonMoos 13:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

For deleting that image. YemeniteCamel 10:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Dupe status

I've got Cat:D down to zero, for a few minutes, and I tagged several of OsamaK's dupes. RlevseTalk 13:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheers! About 6k-7k to go, I estimate... Siebrand 15:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted image

2. maj 2008 01:34 (Sletningslog) . . Siebrand (diskussion | bidrag) slettede "Image:Corset1908 271.png" (Dupe of Image:Corset1905 271.png)

You had deletes the wrong image=:-( Can you rename it? 10:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)haabet 10:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Please rename Image:Corset1905 271.png to Image:Corset1908 271.png
   Done Please sign your talk page messages... Siebrand 14:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sayyid Kazim

I was wondering why you changed the Image:Sayyid Kazim Rashti.jpg with Image:Seyed Ali Mohammed Bab.jpg. We have a reliable source, Balyuzi, H.M. () The Báb: The Herald of the Day of Days, Oxford, UK: George Ronald, pp. p. 16 ISBN 0853980489 which reproduces this image and states "Hájí Siyyid Kázim-i-Rashtí - This photograph was mistakenly identified as one of the Báb by Nicolas in his book Seyyed Ali Mohammed dit le Báb." So the image is of Sayyid Kazim, and should be named that, and not the Bab. Regards, -- Jeff3000 14:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The newest and most reliable sources state the image is of Sayyid Kazim, and not of the Bab, and specifially note that the old book published in the late 1800s is wrong. Why are you using the older source? Regards, -- Jeff3000 15:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Please work out the sourcing issue with your opponent first. Thanks. Siebrand 15:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The opponents are using a old source, and the newest sources state the the old sources are wrong. I have proved reliable sources, and you've taken their side without looking into the situation. The status quo was the correct name. The so-called opponents are using the image of the name for the POV on the Persian Wikipedia. As you know Baha'is are a persecuted religion in Iran. Regards, -- Jeff3000 15:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Siebrand cleans up tons of duplicates and it was a duplicate. So let's assume good faith here and not accuse him of taking any sides. If a consensus is formed that it should be the other name, I don't think he would have a problem sending CommonsDelinker back out there to rename it. Of course, if he went the other way on this one, he would get complaints from the other side. Sometimes you just can't win, so go easy on him. :) Rocket000 17:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Siebrand, please see Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Sayyid Kazim. What would you think if this image was renamed to Image:ImageinNicolas.jpg? It seems to be a good neutral name. Rocket000 01:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll take that as no opposition, then. :) Rocket000 03:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Nope. Glad you took care of it... Cheers! Siebrand 03:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Napalm-Death-image transferred from nl

Hi Siebrand,
do you mind taking a look at this RfD? Being a moderator on nl.wp, you might be the best person to assess the original uploader. Best wishes, --NoCultureIcons 01:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

   Done See at DR. Siebrand 01:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! The main reason for my curiosity was, that other images by this author depicting the same subject were deleted on nl (see [2]), even though I am not able to understand the reasons. --NoCultureIcons 01:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
10s of thousands of files were moved from nl.wp to Commons. You'll hardly find any users who still have many uploads there... Siebrand 01:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I guess I should trust you on that one ;) Thanks again, --NoCultureIcons 01:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

strange rename

This diff looks strange, replacing Image:Charles_Perrault.jpg with Image:ChPerrault.jpg . I think the former name was more descriptive and appropriate, and it is also an older image. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

As the latter is more properly sourced, that one was kept. Cheers! Siebrand 03:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
That is ridiculous. As the images are identical, the information on both image pages shuold be merged together and placed on the best named image, so it is easier to find. The enWP image says "Source: French wiKipedia:" - That link is dead, and [3] gives no attribution details. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

mahjong tile

Chinese mahjong calls   "9ton". But, Japanese mahjong calls it "9pin". The reason for same image by two name ("t" and "p") is that it is possible to correspond to both. I'm sorry in poor English.--Nazki rhetorica 07:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

job skills

“It is most definately not your job to vandalise articles in Wikipedias.” – same goes for you. ;) --32X 09:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please let me know what issue you find out of the 7.000 duplicates I removed in the past 2 weeks? I can only think of a trivial maning issue so far. Kind regards, Siebrand 10:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC) P.s. I am kindof offended with the implication you make in the subject header.

Dupe: Image:San Anton.Oleiros.Galicia.jpg / Image:Castillo0003.jpg

Hi Siebrand. In Galician Wikipedia recent changes I saw this edition. In my opinion San Anton.Oleiros.Galicia.jpg is better than Image:Castillo0003.jpg. The name San Anton.Oleiros.Galicia is more descriptive than generic name Castillo (Castle). The first name locate San Antón Castle in geographical location: Oleiros municipality in Galicia. Best regards. --Prevert(talk) 10:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

   DoneSiebrand 10:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. --Prevert(talk) 11:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The image is the Santa Cruz Castle (Oleiros), no San Antón (A Coruña). --Lansbricae (Ti dirás) 12:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi. Could you please undelete Image:Militargrenze.jpg? That name is more fitting to the image than Image:Croatia Military Frontier.jpg because it doesn't show only the Croatian Military Frontier. I will replace one image with another where applicable, at which point the latter may be deleted. Nikola 19:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


This edit is wrong, revert the edit and undo the image deletion. The image that is used now should be deleted. 09:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to have to say this, but you're *not* being helpful here... Siebrand 09:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I am the photographer, and the name on this image is wrong. It should not be uploaded to Commons under this name, the old one is the correct one. This name was used for a short discussion on the irc-channel #wikipedia, and was used as an amusement for several peoples, including a well known and prominent user. The photo was not intended for republication under this name, and it was uploaded to Commons under an other name to avoid this situation. Please undo your previous changes and delete this version. Jeblad 10:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
I stil have no clue as to which file names we are talking about... That may help a whole lot... Siebrand 10:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
   Done ...if it was about Image:Sentralstasjonen, Oslo.jpg. Finn Rindahl 11:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Right, thanks. I have no idea how I was supposed to know that... :) Siebrand 11:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Easy, just look through recent deletions made by you, it's on page 47 line 239 ;o) Finn Rindahl 11:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
"/me slaps on his forehead." I should have known that. Siebrand 13:30, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


Perhaps sometime I'll look through my contributions and find the right categories - I already categorized the schools :) WhisperToMe 23:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi. Im not optimist to addition some new users (like Special:Contributions/ChristianEdwardGruber). What is your solution about these problems? continuing NPOV? --Rohan 21:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes if policy would be followed, a neutral name would be picked for these images where there are sources that state different things. If we were to actually follow NPOV, we would be picking a neutral name. There are sources, newer and actually more reliable, that state 1) the image is not of the Bab, but of Sayyid Kazim. I don't want to push Sayyid Kazim, and thus the original agreement over a neutral name, but Rohan wants to push his own POV. Regards, -- Jeff3000 21:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Attention needed

Hello, you appear to have deleted a photo of the Thai musical instrument "khong wong lek" because it appeared identical to another photo of the Thai musical instrument "khong wong yai." Although they do appear similar, they are in fact different in pitch and are different instruments. Can you please undo this edit, which was made in error? I would appreciate a note from you to my Wikipedia user page (User:Badagnani) letting me know this has been done. Thank you, 00:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Need more info (like file names). Also, if you want me to reply anywhere else but here, ensure to make a direct link there in your replt. Cheers! Siebrand 00:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi Siebrand, this image was probably uploaded by User:Atomicsteve. It is used on Wikisource: s:en:The Black Terror/24. Unfortunately, the automated explanation normally appearing on talk pages as to why the image is a copyright violation is missing from User talk:Atomicsteve. Furthermore, this user does not appear to be active any more. However, all the other images are tagged as {{PD-US-no-renewal}}. Could it be that Image:BlackTerror2401.jpg is no-renewal as well and the deletion was in error?--GrafZahl (talk) 08:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

   Done Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Siebrand 08:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!--GrafZahl (talk) 08:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Fsm_parsing_word_nice.svg and Image:Fsm parsing word nice b.svg

You recently deleted this image, since it was an exact duplicate of this image. The reason the duplicate "b" was uploaded was because there is already an image with the same filename as the latter "non-b" image on en.wikipedia, meaning that the replacement image cannot be used. CommonsDelinker has now replaced the original (working) "b" image with the local "non-b" image, which fails to render and is generally poorer-looking than the "b" image was. Stannered 13:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Best make a speedy deletion request for the crappy media file on en.wp, or move it out of the way using CommonsHelper... Cheers! Siebrand 13:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaMoveBot approval

Hmm. I'm on Commons:MediaMoveBot/CheckPage#Approved users, but my move still wasn't approved it seems. [4] Are we sure that Betacommand implemented this ? TheDJ 11:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Ask him... Siebrand 11:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Need Help

At Commons:Bots/Requests for flags/Legobot I was asked to make a trial run. My bot, User:Legobot, hasnt been autoconfirmed yet, so when it tries to add external links which are in the template {{welcome}}, a CAPTCHA pops up, which screws up my bot. If you could tell me how you got around that problem in Siebot, that would be helpful. Thanks Legoktm (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


You asked that Okla5b.jpg be replaced by Moore_Oklahoma_Tornado_Damage.jpg, as it was in category "Duplicate". I agree to eliminate duplicate, however I have inputed the first image in 2007 and the second was just loaded today. In wiki logic, my Okla5b.jpg, having a longer histoiry, should have been kept. What was your logic? If it is the name more expressive, I must point out that there is more images in Category:Oklahoma City May 3rd 1999 Tornadoes showing damages and that the new name chosen for this particular image is not particularly oustanding. Pierre cb 21:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

{{please name images}}. As it was an outside source, this is not really relevant. Sourcing has not changed. Siebrand 21:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Flounder Camo md.jpg

Hi! When you deleted Image:Flounder Camo md.jpg as a dupe of Image:Flounder camo md.jpg, did you happen to notice that it was the version with the capital C that had been tagged as a featured picture on en.wikipedia? It's all a bit confusing (even the FPC nomination uses both names), but I think I've mostly fixed it now. I suspect, though, that there may have been some tags and categories on the deleted image description page (such as Category:Commons featured widescreen desktop backgrounds) which should perhaps be copied to the surviving image. Since I can't see the deleted content, could you please look into that? Oh, and just to humor me, could you please double-check that they really were pixel-by-pixel identical dupes? —Ilmari Karonen 13:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

There was only one cat (category:Unidentified Pleuronectiformes) on the image. They were identical. I added {{WideWallpaper-en}}. Cheers! Siebrand 15:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


Hoi Siebrand, I've possibly noted a little bug, see [5] and look out for the removal of "=" in this diff. Cheers --:Bdk: 13:23, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

You are correct, and the issue was fixed a few weeks ago. Cheers! Siebrand 14:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Dupes again

Hi, is there a reason, why you preferred the polish name for a German medivial book illustration? Please move Image:Eike_von_Repgow_ze_Zwierciadłem_Saskim.jpg to the name of the deleted copy Image:Eike_von_Repgow_Oldenburger_Sachsenspiegel.jpg and let your bot run again. TIA. --h-stt !? 15:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

ping! --h-stt !? 10:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I requested assistance at the undeletion requests, after you did not even acknowledge this message here in one week and after a reminder. --h-stt !? 16:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

File:Nuvola devices camera.svg

Could you please restore this file, while it may be a duplicate, it is heavily used in other projects (notably enwiki, and is leaving redlinks. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 03:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

It is not in heavy use, but on less than 20 talk pages in 4 projects. As CommonsDelinker is not allowed to replace media there, you'd best change the few remaining links manually. Cheers! Siebrand 07:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but there do appear to be >100 instances (perhaps not "heavy"). Additionally, when attempting to view the duplicate image ( here) I keep getting the error

XML Parsing Error: prefix not bound to a namespace


Line Number 20, Column 3: <ns:sfw


Can you shed some light on this error? If it wasn't for the error, I'd just reupload this to enwiki: if commons: doesn't want it as a dupe. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 13:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Looks like there's an error in the SVG XML. MediaWiki does render the file to png, though. I ran an image replace bot on en.wp. Siebrand 13:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Can you verify if the file you deleted had an error as well, if not, can that version can be uploaded over the other file? — xaosflux Talk 16:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


Du hast den Edit gelöscht, der zum QI gekürt wurde. Könntest Du das reparieren?

mfg --Mbdortmund 09:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

As CommonsDelinker is not allowed to replace media on talk pages, you'd best change the few remaining links manually. Cheers! Siebrand 12:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


Where is this tab Siebrand? Gridge 21:12, 11 May 2008 (UTC).

Clear your browser cache... Siebrand 22:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks man. If only everything in life was so simple... Gridge 22:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC).

image of Lenin

I have noticed that you tagged this image: "Lenin.jpg" twice as duplicate, while this: "Lénin.jpg" is the one with the incorrect name. "Lénin" is not the name of that person in the English language, nor in Russian, so I think "Lenin.jpg" is the appropriate name for the image... Please order a universal replace of the image with the incorrect name with the one with the correct one. I will add the tags again, hope thats is not a problem! Thanks. SF007 10:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted images

Can you please undelete these:

-- Cat ちぃ? 23:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I created redirects. Siebrand 07:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
That works to link images? Wow I did not know that... :o You probably can delete and redirectify Image:Service star-02-v2.svg too then. -- Cat ちぃ? 13:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it works :) Siebrand 14:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
You any good with css/js? Mind looking at User talk:White Cat#Common.js? Although I am still mad at the entire community, I think such an addition would be a fine addition. -- Cat ちぃ? 14:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I haven't really read up on the details, but from what I understand you had a difference of opinion, where your opinion was the minority opinion. There are a few ways to resolve that: keep on trying to change opinion in debate, change your views, persist and get frustrated and eventually leave. It appears you choose the latter, which is sad. There were IMO many other things you could have chosen to be involved in. Where so many people have to work together, getting your personal excellent solution implemented is often hard, if not unobtainable. I have been in a similar position often, both in Wikimedia projects, and outside of them. It is life, basically and you make your own choices, bearing the consequences, both the positive and the negative ones. Maybe this helps you, who knows :)
As for the js stuff: not really my thing. Too many other things to do. I took a quick look at it. Was not able to make out quickly enough what exactly it was about. In general I am 'pro script' where it saves time, just as long as it does not make things impossible to change. Cheers! Siebrand 14:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The JS supposed to mahe the hide/show mechanism work. Code was leached from en.wikipedia. If you look at the various templates there you can see this in action. I want to use this with POTD. -- Cat ちぃ? 14:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


When you removed COA_of_Portugal.svg for being a dupe your bot seems to have misbehaved and killed all the uses in WikiProject Portugal pages back in Wikipedia. Can you try to set it to fix the issue? I certainly don't feel like editing all pages that may be broken manually. You can use this image.--Ivo

Hmm, I see no usage of this file anywhere... Can you show me the actual problem? Siebrand 08:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Your bot deleted a permitted image. It didn't even give a warning. Can you put it back up please? -- Nodeheavy

No. Because I have no idea what you are talking about. Please clarify. Cheers! Siebrand 08:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

the waving-in-the-wind svg flags of Monaco and Indonesia

Hi. It would appear that you initiated the cross-wiki replacement of Image:Nuvola Monegasque flag.svg with Image:Nuvola Indonesian flag.svg. I noticed this and commented at User talk:Rlevse#Image:Nuvola Indonesian flag.svg and Monegasque flag. The two svg flies are exact copies, but the flags are different; Monaco's is rather narrower in relation to it's height. It would seem to me that the replacements should be undone and the waving-in-the-wind svg file for Monaco updated to render a somewhat squarer image. I don't have much experience with editing svg files nor do I speak French or Italian (the languages of the wikis where this mostly applies). Just my two rupiah. Cheers, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 08:28, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll create a redirect. Siebrand 08:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
That seems reasonable for the time being. Should the replacements done a few weeks ago be undone so they use the redirect for now and automatically adopt a new image when someone gets around to creating it? Cheers, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 08:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Replacement of a picture by CommonsDelinker

CommonsDelinker replaced this image in this German article. What CommonsDelinker did not consider was that this picture in the German Wikipedia (not the Commons!) has the exact same name. Certainly not very smart of the uploaders, but it effectively means that the article has a different picture now, because pictures in the German Wikipedia take precedence over those from the Commons. Please rename one of the pictures (AFAIK I cannot do that as a normal user) so that the original picture can be used again in the German Wikipedia. And have CommonsDelinker check for stuff like this the next time ;) Thanks --Regani 11:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Images copy from English Wiki

Thank for delition the following images:

Request to delete

Thank You, --Kiensvay 07:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

   DoneSiebrand 07:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, --Kiensvay 07:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

permission OTRS

Please verifies the email sent for OTRS referring Image:VictorCorrea.JPG. Thanks --Dej espindola Discussão 13:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I found the ticket (2008052010030094). As I cannot read it, I'll leave it for someone else to process. Siebrand 14:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Estado Novo (Portugal)

I've reverted the change made by your bot and added the required space to the filename. From the caption the bot added :

22:48, 21 May 2008 CommonsDelinker (Talk | contribs) m (9,861 bytes) (Removing "Salazar1933.jpg", it has been deleted from Commons by Siebrand because: Dupe of Image:Salazar 1933.jpg.)

it seems the bot had all the information to hand to amend the link rather than just wipe it. Could you add this to the bot?

The bot's behaviour in this case looks more like vandalism than constructive editing.

I think I made a mistake with that one image. Cheers! Siebrand 11:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
No worries. Bazj.

Deleting duplicates

Please, if you delete duplicates, replace deleted images in articles. [6]. Thank, you. --Dezidor 11:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I made a mistake with that one image. Cheers! Siebrand 11:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

deprecated function in your monobook.js

Dear user, I noticed that you use the includePage function in your monobook.js page.

This function is now obsolete, as the importScript function was introduced with rev:35064 to the MediaWiki Javascript core library wikibits.js. It also keeps track of already imported files.

To allow us to remove includePage from Mediawiki:Common.js I'd kindly ask you to replace its use with importScript (same syntax!). Thanks! --Dschwen 17:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

   DoneSiebrand 12:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Why you delete the photo with remarks "duplicate"?

You deleted the image "Image:JaySingapore.jpg" totally from Wiki! You can put it in Commons instead of removing the whole photo from Wiki and commons! The msg says "(cur) (last) 12:04, 1 May 2008 CommonsDelinker (Talk | contribs) m (842 bytes) (JaySingapore.jpg replaced by Il_Divo.jpg as ordered by Siebrand. Reason: Was in category "Duplicate", exact duplicate.)" What is that? - Whjayg 14:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What exactly is unclear about an edit summary like "JaySingapore.jpg replaced by Il_Divo.jpg as ordered by Siebrand. Reason: Was in category "Duplicate", exact duplicate"? Siebrand 18:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I have restored this image because it was uploaded by the author while the other one was uploaded by someone else, copy-pasting all the text. --32X 08:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Interwikis bot on be-x-old Wikipedia

Could you please run interwikis bot on be-x-old Wikipedia on articles, categories and project namespaces? Thank you. --EugeneZelenko 16:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I'll start it in a bit. Siebrand 18:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for help! --EugeneZelenko 14:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

"Universally replaced"

RE Image:JRU colors.svg - how can it be described as "Universally replaced" when the majority (or at least a significant number) of uses were not replaced? Stannered 11:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's a bot. It just reports what it did. As soon as you're a sysop and want to work on dupes, I'll explain things in detail. Siebrand 11:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Translating cathedral categories into english

Hi, Your bot has been recently translating category titles related to cathedrals from french to english, which is nice. I only want to point out that the comments associated to the renamings sometimes (often) referred to the wrong cathedrals (example), which is odd because apparently the modification in themselves were OK. Well, thanks anyway for the renamings, it's just that you may have a problem with the comments! Eusebius

The commands for recategorisation are given by trusted users (sysop only). The bot only executes thme. You have to check the history of User:CommonsDelinker/commands to the timestamp of the changes to find out who ave the command. Please discuss this with that particular sysop. Cheers! Siebrand 08:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


własna praca = own work. [7] --Dezidor 08:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, the autor does not point to the uploading user. It appears to be very confusing, so it does need clarification. Siebrand 08:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
There is link Andrzej Kulka --> User:Formatfoto in file description. --Dezidor 09:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
User:Formatfoto does not have a user page. User:Andrzej Kulka does not exist. Please explain to me how that does *not* look suspicious? I can only draw the conclusion that the uploader is not the author and thus a permission is required. Siebrand 09:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Somebody declared that photo is his own work (własna praca), he wrote that name of the autor is Andrzej Kulka and he write this Author= Andrzej Kulka (see also link Andrzej Kulka -> User:Formatfoto). It isn´t more suspicious than photos of every normal user. --Dezidor 09:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Doumely SketchUp.jpg

this was my personnal work with a free software. The Castel is my friend Castle. then, Whose rigths ?--Ruizo 16:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Superseded

Hoi Siebrand, ik zie dat je een paar png's hebt weggegooid. Ben je bewust van Commons:Deletion requests/Superseded? Multichill 22:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ja. En die negeer ik spaarzaam. Siebrand 22:33, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Dupes tagger

Hello, could you please apply this edit on your monobook.js? That would give you shorter code and better summary "Adding {{Dupe}}. Your help is needed!". Thanks!--OsamaK 12:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Consider it done. Siebrand 12:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For tireless work in helping clear thousands of backlogged duplicates from Commons. RlevseTalk 13:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks :) Siebrand 13:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem. The cat is empty right now and I see you've added more to the list, that's okay. RlevseTalk 13:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Yep. We're at about 3600 dupes left. After the batch I published this morning, I have ~350 dupes left from the previous query run. I'll finish those. After that, I think the harder cases will remain, which we have to give a closer look, have to give more thought, or ask subject matter expert in for. Especially the latter one for non-empty book pages... I think I'll start replacing empty book pages by exactly the same image to reduce the dupes. Siebrand 13:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Which one?

See Image:Le_Tréport,_T._Camp_de_Pedros,_1851.jpg and ImageLe_Tréport,_dessin_par_Teresita_Camp_de_Pedros-Bouchot,1851.jpg. In Osama's dupe6, at the top. Both have "self" licenses, but this is from 1851. Shouldn't this be PD-old or PD-art instead? RlevseTalk 00:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd no source it and check some other contribs by the uploader... Siebrand 06:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

renaming (almost) a whole category

A few images in Category:De Vineta (Werner) has been renamed&dupe deteled by someone tagging {{rename media}} etc. The files have the format 00XX.PNG which makes renaming seem like a smart move... There are however some 300 files that needs renaming, and tagging all of them manually is not something I would look forward to doing. Is it possible to bypass the admin/trusted requirement of {{rename media}} and get this done by a bot? See also User_talk:Joergens.mi#Category:De_Vineta_.28Werner.29 Regards, Finn Rindahl 22:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I may have a script tucked away somewhere. I have a presentation to prepare and some regular work. Will not have time to do it before next week. Can you remind me again about this next Monday or Tuesday? Cheers! Siebrand 22:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll probably forget it, but Joergens might remember and remind us both. Good luck with your presentation! Finn Rindahl 22:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. It's in Italy and about Betawiki :) Siebrand 22:37, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Different question

...may be a dumb one but here we go. I tried my luck with the dupe-tool, tagged Image:Picasso-g.jpg, asked CommonsDelinker to replace it and then sat back waiting for Delinker to report back. Then you came along and deleted it ;) Could I have done so right away myself, did you do a Check usage and/or doesn't Delinker report back if there's nothing to replace? Finn Rindahl 22:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Replication lag is very slow atm. I use CommonsDupes which presents all the stuff in a slightly more convenient way. As soon as I see an unused tagged image or replaced without issues, it's gone, even if CD hasn't told me yet. Get quicker :) Siebrand 22:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)'re to fast for me ;o) Haven't got around to delete a single dupe I've tagged yet. Mind you, I'm not complaining :D Finn Rindahl 12:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Hallo Siebrand, es handelt sich nicht um eine exakte Kopie, sondern um eine Bearbeitung (Farben, Helligkeit, Kontrast), wenn auch um eine nicht sehr auffällige. Gruß, Rainer Z ... 11:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the filesize and MD5 are *exactly* the same... Siebrand 11:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Did you read the template {{PD-Orgelbrand}} before you added "no source" tag? Letters were to small? I will repeat it using bigger ones:

English: source: Samuel Orgelbrand's Universal Encyclopedia with illustrations and maps
edited in sixteen volumes 1898-1904 (plus two volumes of "suplement", 1911 & 1912)

Regards Julo 15:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Questions from Ahonc

Hi Siebrand

Please find attached message in relation to my question. The administrator Ahonc directed my question to you. Would you be able to review my question and provide your advice at your convenience.

I am looking forward to hearing from your advice

Thanks in advance --Donaldytong 10:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Swan_St._Bridge_over_the_Yarra_River.jpg

Please delete Image:Swan_St._Bridge_over_the_Yarra_River.jpg Thanks in advance --Donaldytong 11:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ahonc

Thanks for your message left in my talk page. I found my previous uploaded Image:Yarra River & Swan Street Bridge.jpg was removed and Image:Swan_St._Bridge_over_the_Yarra_River.jpg is still remained (you requested for deletion). Also Image:Melbourne Sheraton Hotel at South Bank of the Yarra River.jpg and Image:Melbourne Le Meridien Hotel.jpg were tagged by me for deletion because the building is no longer called Sheraton Hotel and Le Maridien respectively. These tags were removed as well.

Would you be able to let me know what was happened and what I can do for these incorrect name of the images?

I am looking forward to hearing from your advice.

Thanks --Donaldytong 14:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Siebrand reverted tags. Ask him why did he do it.--Ahonc (talk) 14:36, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Ampersands are strange creatures that should not be in file names. Siebrand 13:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I did not get what your answer is. My question is that I found my previous uploaded Image:Yarra River & Swan Street Bridge.jpg was removed and Image:Swan_St._Bridge_over_the_Yarra_River.jpg is still remained (Ahonc requested for deletion). Also Image:Melbourne Sheraton Hotel at South Bank of the Yarra River.jpg and Image:Melbourne Le Meridien Hotel.jpg were tagged by me for deletion because the building is no longer called Sheraton Hotel and Le Maridien respectively. These tags were removed as well.

Would you be able to let me know what was happened and what I can do for these incorrect name of the images?

I am looking forward to hearing from your advice.

Thanks --Donaldytong 09:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You must use {{bad name}} properly to tag duplicates. For rename requests you should use {{rename}}, which should also be used properly. A {{bad name}} without a duplicate target will be removed (as you describe above). As for choosing which image will eventually be deleted: that's something I evaluated in case of Image:Yarra River & Swan Street Bridge.jpg was removed and Image:Swan_St._Bridge_over_the_Yarra_River.jpg and I simply chose the other one, instead of the one you selected, because ampersands in file names are evil. Siebrand 09:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
P.s. I would appreciate it if you used proper indentation. That makes it much more likely that I can give a quick reply. Look at the above: it's extremely messy. Siebrand 09:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Just want to let you know that I'm getting annoyed by you appearingly not taking *any* notice of what is happening to your edits, or doing anything with the advice I give you above. I just reverted your speedy deletion request. Siebrand 14:09, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please provide the answer that why I cannot use speedydelete|reason? I am the original author of the images and now the building names have been changed, which are irrelevant and not informative to the viewers of these two photos. I do not know what names they are for the current building names. May I request to delete these two images? Sorry, I added speedy delete tag again, but provided the reasons for deletion. Furthermore, may I have another question? Can an original author of the image withdraw the free license of the image in Wikimedia Commons? If he/she did, what would be the consequence? I am looking forward to hearing from your advice. Thanks--Donaldytong 05:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no reason to remove validly licensed material. The name appears to have been correct in the past. Get the new names somehow and just note in the description the name has changed. When the new name is known, the files can be renamed. Stop messing about. Siebrand 06:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your advice and clarification. I am not sure how long it will take me to get the right names of the buildings. In the meantime, these two images may confuse the viewers, which is not desirable and objective for Wikimedia Commons. I would like to leave this matter in your trustful hands. Thanks again--Donaldytong 10:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


The gif image should be the one that's deleted, as a png image ensures no loss of quality over time, why a gif does not. Wilhelmina Will 07:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

In Wikipedia, they usually delete jpgs and gifs whenever a png version of the image is available. The image you deleted was a png image, while the one it was a "duplicate" of was a gif image. Why are you in favour of an inferior image? Wilhelmina Will 20:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted wrong version of Pseudo-Seneca-Brogi?

You recently deleted Image:Pseudo-Seneca-Brogi.jpeg on the grounds that it was a duplicate of Image:Pseudo-Seneca-Brogi.jpg. However, Image:Pseudo-Seneca-Brogi.jpeg was the original one, and Image:Pseudo-Seneca-Brogi.jpg the duplicate. I happen to know, since I uploaded the original; I can't remember now if this was to or to, since the history has been removed.

Can you please undo the deletion, and delete the ".jpg" one instead? I prefer ".jpeg" as extension names for JPEG images. Thanks. Eubulides 16:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

'jpeg' is not a standard extension. 'jpg' or 'JPG' is used more often. I usually delete the 'jpeg' and I see no reason here to honour your request, as it 'saves' nothing and costs me time. Cheers! Siebrand 16:41, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrong duplicate

Hello, you seem to have have deleted the wrong duplicate ;)

As per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Tomba di Roberto il Guiscardo.jpg and the deletion tag still on the old pic. Could you reverse the process? Thanks. 18:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


Thanks. That's my duty (I contribute in But you performed it! • Rohan T 12:05, 28 May 2008

Not sure how you find which dupes on Commons are locally present on fa.wp, but if you haven't already, you may want to use the following URLs: [8], [9], [10]. With these URLs you will probably be able to dump *a lot* of images that have duplicates somewhere... Siebrand 12:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your attention. I try to find duplicated images from there. But in fa.wp images with copyvio may be left over 6 month! as this manner of fa.wp.sysops dup images may be left a year :-) • Rohan T 12:18, 28 May 2008
That sounds like an absurd policy... Can you let me know which template I should use there which is equivalent to {{no license}} here. I'll tag some image... So you have something to delete in six months :) Siebrand 12:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
{{منبع تصویر نامعلوم}} thanks. but I'm not a sysop there. sometimes I tried to investigate to fa.wp imags, but usuly they dont pay attention to my works. Commons is very cozy place!  Rohan T 12:35, 28 May 2008
I just tagged 511 files with {{no license}} on fa.wp[11]. And asked a question on the talk page of the category why the files in cat are not being processed. Who knows... It may help. Siebrand 13:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Very thanks about your attention. I awaked your Bot do that, othewise I'll run a bot to start do this task. Can help me to do these tasks? • Rohan T 13:59, 28 May 2008
about fa.sysops: I have no hope in that. They left about 6 monyh without any attention! • Rohan T 14:04, 28 May 2008
You should not use before you have properly cleaned your local file store. I have described a process you could follow on eo:User:Siebrand. Getting rid of "NowCommons", "no source", "no license" before starting to transfer "own work" and "OTRS verified" to Commons is very important in my opinion. Siebrand 14:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
hi Siebrand. i am fawiki sysop i will try to cooprate with rohan to delete copyvio images .thanks for your help--Mardetanha 17:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your attention.category cleaned up--Mardetanha 00:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Excellent. Thank you. Cheers! Siebrand 00:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I just wonder why did you delete File:HartmannKievGate.jpg and left its copy re-uploaded later, and not vice versa. --Yms 05:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


Ein Vogel der Art Pycnonotus barbatus ist kein Vogel der Art Vidua chalybeata dies sind zwei ganz verschiedene Arten von Vögeln. Der Dateiname lautet nach der korrekten Bestimmung des (linken) Vogels aber Image:Pycnonotus barbatus 0010.jpg / Image:Pycnonotus barbatus 0011.jpg und sollte auch in der Kategorie zu finden sein. Eine Einsortierung des Bildes mit dem Dateinamen Image:Vidua chalybeata 0009.jpg in der Kategorie "Pycnonotus barbatus" der verursacht Missverständnisse und muss/sollte unterbleiben. Außerdem ist die Bildbeschreibung dann falsch. Es ist ein Zufall dass der eine Vogel mit dem andern Vogel auf dem Bild ist. Das Bild wird in Zukunft in zwei getrennte Richtungen überarbeitet (wie ich es auch gestern gemacht habe), dies kann aber nur geschehen - wenn es zwei auch Dateien gibt.

Ich bitte dich deine falsche Entscheidung zu überdenken und rückgängig zu machen. Siehe auch hier und hier. --Atamari 09:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

@Siebrand, if you like to have a translation, drop me a note on my talk page. --Túrelio 09:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Know answer?

Do you know the answer to this User_talk:Lar#Copyrighted_wiki_logos? Pls respond on Lar's page. RlevseTalk 14:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

He responded, but what about his idea of keeping these dupes? RlevseTalk 14:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
delete -> redirect. Siebrand 23:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker and FlaggedRevs

I notice that CommonsDelinker is the top reviewer on German Wikipedia in the last hour, flagging 21 articles as sighted. Is the bot supposed to be able to do that? Is it only edits to previously sighted articles that are being re-sighted by CommonsDelinker, or is the bot registering articles as sighted for the first time?--Ragesoss 01:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I would sure hope the former and not the latter :) I think you should check the edits CD makes. I guess they are only image replacements. CD does not have any logic to make changes to flagged revs properties. Siebrand 01:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
It seems to be working properly; the only article I found that had no prior sighted revisions remained unsighted after CD changed an image. Other bots on de-wiki seem to be doing the same thing, only re-sighting if the previous version is sighted.--ragesoss 01:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


Hello, Siebrand! You said that & makes problems.. Is CommonsDelinker unable to remove such files? Thanks!--OsamaK 03:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

CD does not have an issue with it. CommonsDupes and the dupes scripts do, AFAIK. Siebrand 07:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Helena Paparizou's Images

Why did you delete my images "Elena Paparizou, Eurovision Song Contest 2005.jpg" and "Elena Paparizou, ESC 2005, Final.jpg"? I didn't violate copyright! These was posted at flickr and marked license template CC...--KriFFek 07:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am sure you assumed good faith. But these are obviously screen captures that the Flickr poster does not have a copyright on. Please use common sense. Siebrand 07:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I think, if it'll be screen captures there will be some hindrances, lines and rodacter's logo. But it's true, image "Martin Stenmarck ESC05.jpg" violates copyright too. But I don't think that these images are screen captures. Screens can't be such good quality. For example this [12] is screen.
I fear these things will only get harder to determine as High Definition Television penetrates further and further. I have also deleted the image you indicated as a capture. Thank you for your understanding and help. Cheers! Siebrand 07:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)



Jij hebt deze verwijderd onder het mom van duplicate. Ik heb het echter teruglaten plaatsen omdat het geen duplicate is. Zou je mijn de link kunnen geven vanaf waar het een duplicate zou moeten zijn?


Met vriendelijke groet,

Sterkebaktalk 13:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC) Siebrand 17:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for change

Hi, you deleted Image:Sea-surface-temperature-2001.png in favour of Image:Wiki plot 03.png. Please change that the other way around, that file name is absolutely bad–non-descriptive. Thanks. -- 18:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC) (too lazy to login for this single comment ;-)

help on fawiki

refering to our talk on IRC i request if it is possible by commonsdelinker replace this with that. if i want to give you more information problem backs to this image it was uploaded on 2005 so it has been used on lots of pages .so before i can delete dope one we have to delete first one.--Mardetanha 20:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi (on possible bug of Siebot ;)

...this is just to inform you: see User talk:Christian Nurtsch#Mount Vesuvius (März ;)

Have a pretty good time, and LOL. ;) WeHaWoe 20:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


Hello! I saw, you deleted image:ZNAME_Skopje.jpg, because it would be double to Image:Flag of Skopje.png. But one is the vertical, one the horizontal version. Could you reload the image? Thank you. --Patrick 12:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry.    DoneSiebrand 12:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Dupes finished

Congratulations, We have finished dupes. Thanks for your help. There is always many ways to help, check this page if you're free. Thanks!--OsamaK 01:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

That's fantastic. I will run another full query which we will have to examine more closely after the dupes category is empty. Siebrand 07:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

while looking at recent uploads....

I was just looking at the recent uploads and I got curious about what all of the seeming square white images were in the stream. This is one example: Image:De Die Chinesische Mauer (Kraus) 16.jpg. Now I am confused/curious if these uploads were intended and what is going on. -- carol (tomes) 14:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I replace the empty book pages with exactly the same simple image (a 1x1 pixel) to reduce the number of duplicate pairs. I think there will be 50-200 more of those uploads. They look a bit out of place, but it actually serves a purpose. Unfortunately we cannot redirect to a 1x1 pixel *and* have a description page. This is the best compromise. Siebrand 16:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. I only looked at the one page before asking and it is still interesting as it is a solution for a problem that I did not know existed. Managing a few million images should always be kind of interesting. -- carol (tomes) 16:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Help with renaming

Hi, I was just approved as a trusted user for renaming media via Commons:MediaMoveBot. Can you give me some advices how to use the bot? Is it just putting the rename templates on the media description pages or I have to do something more in order to rename the media? Thanks --Chech Explorer 15:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be nice if you suggested a new name... Otherwise someone else has to take another look at that and fill that out: {{rename|new name.ext}}. Siebrand 16:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Interwikis bot on be-x-old Wikipedia categories

We generated many years related categories recently. Could you please run interwikis bot on be-x-old Wikipedia categories? --EugeneZelenko 14:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I think I did that about a week ago at your request already... Siebrand 14:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
We generated many new categories during last week :-) --EugeneZelenko 15:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Running. Siebrand 16:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for help! --EugeneZelenko 15:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


In most cases it doesn't if you replace it by 1 pixel pictures. But what is the benefit, 1 pixel picture 21 Kb scan of the original page 33 KB. and it might be that a white page with a small remark will be overeritten. because it will falsly defined as an dupkicate. And the next problem ist, that an Admin with no knowledge of the situation will do a mass deletion of 1 pixel files because he thinks that is a fault.

11:48, 5. Jun. 2008 1×1 (21 KB) Siebrand (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) ({{Information |Description= |Source= |Date= |Author= |Permission= |other_versions= }})

19:02, 10. Sep. 2007 2.000×2.598 (33 KB) GerWsUpload (Diskussion | Beiträge | Sperren) ({{Codex diplomaticus brandenburgensis|2|2|1845|023|025}} )

Greetings --Joergens.mi 17:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It is about reducing the number of duplicate pairs so that cleaning up the last pairs are not cluttered with all kinds of experiments by mostly book uploaders. And so that we can let the book uploaders more easily know where they made the mistakes. We are now actually below 1.700 duplicate pairs and that is quite an achievement... This is where the hard work for you as a book uploader starts... :) Siebrand 17:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'll do so.. But you have to help me at this page when finish ;-)--OsamaK 20:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I do not think I will... Once I have this project complete, I have many other projects lined up... Siebrand 20:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Hum, then let me think before :P--OsamaK 07:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Dupes and redirects

I'm not sure if this is a bug, the result of an out-of-date list, or just an accident, so I'm letting you know in case it's a bug that can be fixed:

OsamaK tagged Image:RKTanitimYeniHanCaravanseraiManisaTurkey.jpg as a dupe of Image:RKYeniHanCaravanseraiManisaTurkey.jpg, I assume based on the dupes lists you've been creating. The second one had already been deleted a month ago and redirected to the first one. So the result was, the redirect page was replaced (by CommonsDelinker) by a redirect to itself, and the file it was supposed to point to was deleted. I'm not sure if that was because of an out-of-date dupes list or a bug in the duplicates query script or something else. Cheers--ragesoss 07:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I read it on his talk page. Redirected pages do not show up as a dupe in the queries that I use as source for the dupes list. It must have been 'out of date'. Shit happens, but as long as we have people like you reporting it, no harm done that cannot be corrected. Cheers! Siebrand 11:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


Kan je even nagaan wat er gaande is bij de OTRS ? Ik heb op 3 juni een email gestuurd om een ticket-nr. te bekomen voor de foto's die ik wil uploaden naar (de nog niet bestaande) Category : Hubert Minnebo. Bij de email was het modelformulier (in het Engels) gevoegd met de elektronische handtekening van H. Minnebo (een Belgische beeldhouwer). Ik heb al een maand gewerkt aan zijn biografie die ik wil uploaden naar nl.wikipedia, maar zonder foto's heeft dit weinig zin. Ter informatie : het gebruikte emailadres was Ondertussen heb ik nog steeds geen antwoord bekomen.

Dhr. Minnebo had terzelfdertijd ook rechtstreeks het modelformulier doorgestuurd naar OTRS .Hierop is wel er antwoord gekomen op het emailadres van Minnebo (dat hij dan heeft doorgestuurd naar mij) met de volgende melding

From: "Mail Delivery System" <> To: <> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

The following message to <permissions-commons> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.2 - Bad destination host 'DNS Hard Error looking up }} (MX): NXDomain'

Zoals je kan zien, het adres was juist maar het bericht werd teruggekaatst. Op mijn email is er nog steeds geen antwoord gekomen. JoJan 13:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

wrong name

Please see here: Image_talk:Pesaro_posizione.png --Accurimbono 17:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Complicated questions

I am here asking what to me are complicated questions and the reason I am here asking them is that I think you operate a bot which leaves a really good footprint; like it doesn't make a mess of things and actually is cleaning stuff up here.

I have been attempting to communicate with a couple of people who have access and are writing software which is similar that is supposed to help with managing images. They write, instead, something more akin to paint ball spewing software. I end up feeling somewhat victimized because of things like this if you can see the list of undo I had to do there. The system that seems to be in place here -- I would have to say, resembles the German invasion of Guernica which was the first time they used aerial warfare (if I heard the story correctly) and they used the planes and other toys to chase people into buildings then bombed the buildings to chase them out into the streets then bombed the streets to chase them into the buildings, etc. I made those changes because I care. I would like to see the people involved who caused the situation in which I did what the software is supposed to do make some changes because even if they don't care, I do enough for all of us.

Writing software is complicated, I have written some simple python scripts -- I think that perhaps the scripts I have written are somewhat more complicated than a paintball bot (a bot that spews templates onto lists of image pages or atop of Category pages. I find it also to be extremely intersting that there are no gallery with stuff spewed upon them. How come the paintball bots do not spew there?

I have written about the huge gaps in time in which I have not had access to a computer between say now and 1976 when I first started to play with them. It is the kind of situation in which writing articles is perhaps a good task for me -- but if there are no people who can write good software (I don't consider a paintball bot to be good software, but I might be wrong about that.) And if the people with the access are not interested in writing software that accomplishes more than just the simple pasting of templates and other annoyances -- well, see how complicated the question is.

I looked back on this and the only question I have asked coherently (I actually had access to a computer with Coherent installed, but the internet was a long distance phone call and making a database on that thing of my music collection seemed premature, as was the time spent with the Osborne) is this one "How come the paintball bots don't spew on the gallery pages?"

Can you help or point me somewhere that they are not constantly restarting world war one in spain? -- carol (tomes) 19:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

wrong image removed

I had uploaded a duplicate image, using a better name and description, but it got removed. The original should have been removed. The bad one is Image:Zoo_América-2874f-Urocyon_cinereoargenteus.jpg. The one I uploaded was Image:Zoo_América-2874f-Lycalopex_gymnocercus.jpg. Please correct this. - UtherSRG 00:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a defunct motorcycle manufacturer so there is nobody to ask for permisison. I asked the question on the help page but nobody responded. The reason for up loading it was for use on the wikipedia article aboutr the history of DMW which as an iumportant historical justification. Please advise how we can meet your copyright requirement Thanks TR001 06:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

This is an image taken by my staff on Flat Holm island for educational purpose for use on the Flat Holm article as an educational resource. How do we get the permission right please? TR001 06:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

email sent as you suggested confirming permission for this file to remain TR001 06:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

email sent confirming permission as suggested TR001 06:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

email sent to confirm pemission as suggested TR001 06:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

This image forms part of the Flat Holm Project archive which is intended to be used for education purposes. As a Chief Officer at Cardiff Council I have the authority to give permission so have emailed accordingly - but there must be a better way of dealing with this type of image? Please advise TR001 06:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

email sent as suggested confirming permission TR001 06:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have sent an email confirming permission as suggested. Is this what I am supposed to do every time I am in doubt? I think I have dealt with all the files you are planning to delete please advise if I have missed any or if there are things I still need to do. I would also appreciate your recommendation on how to deal with images such as logos and adverts relating to long since vanished British morotcycle manufacturers, as I have never recrived an answer to my questions posted on the help pages. Thanks TR001 06:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Images relating to Flat Holm

Hi Siebrand you have tagged a load of images for deletion which were either taken by me or my staff as part of our work to promote awareness of Flat Holm island through the Wikipedia article which we are working to get to good article status. I will send emails to record permission as suggested but would appreciate your help for work that has been done in good faith Please advise TR001 06:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Sending permission to OTRS should suffice. Best add {{OTRS pending}} to the image and remove the request for deletion. "Assuming good faith" is not an issue here. I do assume you have the best indentions, but when it comes to licensing issues, contributors should just deliver unambiguous proof of license - nothing personal. Cheers! Siebrand 18:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Please see reply to emails

We have received the permission for the images (both in this and the other four emails you sent) and have made the necessary modifications to the Image pages.

Thank you for providing this to us, and for your contribution to the Wikimedia Commons.

Yours sincerely, Daniel Bryant

-- Wikimedia Commons -

Thanks TR001 19:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


Cuando pongo Ocultar ediciones de bots en mi lista de seguimiento, siguen apareciendo las de este bot. ¿Qué es lo que está fallando?. Gracias 03:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC) eswiki

Sorry, not able to read Spanish... Siebrand 07:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
The Spanish text says "When I click Hide bot edits on my Watchlist, the edits from this bot still appear. What is going wrong?" I wonder about two things: first, which bot, and second, since when have IPs Watchlists? Lupo 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Right. Same here... Siebrand 14:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I think this is about CommonsDelinker. Even though it is a bot, it is not everywhere flagged as one, as 'we' (Bryan and I) leave that complete up to communities to decide. We do not request bot flags, and have a neutral opinion about it - things are to be said for both types of behaviour. Siebrand 15:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Flag of Serbia Pantone.svg


I see that you have deleted Image:Flag of Serbia Pantone.svg, stating that it is a duplicate of Image:Flag of Serbia.svg. However, I don't recall that the two images were the same, as they used different color palettes. Having this version is useful in order to compare the palettes, especially as there is occasional edit warring on the issue, so could you please undelete it? Thanks in advance :) Nikola 16:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

sostituisco l'immagine Blason_Bourganeuf_23.svg con Albe_arms.svg

Commonsdelinker erased image Blason_Bourganeuf_23.svg and substitute it with image Albe_arms.svg (the two images have same design but they refers to different cities). Now the list of cities of french departement Creuse show an image who is related to town Albé of french departement Bas-Rhin (as shown in its page). This could create big confusion to an user who doesn't know the blasonnement of the town of Bourganeuf. Please, arrest the substitution of images of coats of arms: only the image is not enough to understand a blazon, also the older's name is important. -- 19:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleted images used by scripts

Dear Siebrand, you have once again deleted Image:WikEd_ctrl.png. As I have told you before, this image is used by a tool / gadget. This was clearly marked by the following template:

Your deletion currently affects thousands of users of wikEd! Please restore the image immediately and make sure that this does not turn into a monthly game (by placing the image on a blacklist or by checking for that template). Thanks, Cacycle 12:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Right. That one was on my list... Sorry (once again). I have now created a redirect. Does this resolve it (I think it should, but not certain). Siebrand 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
No! Please restore the image. Thanks, Cacycle 21:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Could you explain to me why you need two image that are equal under different names? If It Walks Like a Duck and Quacks Like A Duck... Siebrand 21:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
It is used for different purposes and and the actual pixel values might change. I really hope I do not have to make some minor changes just to prevent you from deleting it... Cacycle 21:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, it pops up as a byte-by-byte duplicate. You are not contesting that. Displaying the same image in different ways is no reason to have it twice. It is even heavier on your application. I propose that you change your app a timy bit to use the same image, until there is an actual need to pollute commons with unneeded duplicates. If you think that your purposes are best served by changing the image in its most minor detail, please do so. I see no reason to restore the file. Of course you are free to contest this on COM:UR. Please reference this discussion. Cheers! Siebrand 21:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Commons Delinker substituted the image Del_.jpg with Image:Del.jpg but the newer version wasn't uploaded properly

I was on the "Gurgaon" page and I noticed that one of the images was totally white. Then I saw you removed that image with a duplicate. The duplicate hasn't been uploaded properly. So trhe image is blank. It would be very kind of you if you redelete the old image as the new image hasn't ben uploaded properly. Thanks Manaspunhani (talk) 05:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Without a proper page link, I cannot confirm your observation. Please give me that information if you want me to do anything. Image:Del.jpg looks OK to me. Cheers! Siebrand 16:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Schlacht bei Hard.jpg

You have deleted the picture "Image:Schlacht bei Hard.jpg" that I uploaded 2006 to the commons, because back then it was only available on the english wiki. Now somebody uploaded it again and you decided to delete my version. I do not want to question that decision but I would be delighted if - next time - you would copy the german description to the english page befor you delete my picture. sidonius (talk) 17:30, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

   DoneSiebrand 17:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


You ask me to add the source and author information, when on the image page it says it came from en.wp and it says who uploaded it there... I fail to see the problem, please enlighten me. Thanks. Tiddly Tom (talk) 16:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

en.wp is not a source. What was the source before it got from en.wp? Uploading a copyright violation on en.wp, then moving it here with a reference to a 'valid license' on en.wp does not make it really valid, does it? Cheers! Siebrand 10:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Blason_Bourganeuf_23.svg and Albe_arms.svg

As I yet told you Commonsdelinker erased Blason_Bourganeuf_23.svg and substitute it with image Albe_arms.svg (black shield with three white chevrons). Today user Caranorn uploaded a new version of coat of arms of Albé (Armoiries commune fr Albé (67).svg - blue shield with three white chevrons). So the old coat of arms of Albé could be wrong. If the black shield for Albé should be deleted because wrong, which should be the coat of arms to be referred to the town of Bourganeuf (the coat of arms of Bourganeuf was deleted !) ?. --Massimop (talk) 19:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Most of the time coats of arms have no sourcing whatsoever, so even with the old coa: I couldn't say... Siebrand 20:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

License of the image Image:MARCA_UNITAU_RGB.jpg

Hello, here is the page with the permission to use the image: [13] (Page in brazilian portuguese language). Thank you. Ivanmvs (talk) 01:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

And where is the CC-BY-2.5 statement? Siebrand 10:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


I am surprized to see that I need permission for this photo, and the other two photos of Image:Adel_Imam.jpg and Image:Abdessalam_el_Nabulsi.jpg. These photos are dated correctly according to the License used. Which is {{PD-Egypt}}, and it states: It is a photographic or audiovisual work that is not compositive (artistic in nature) and was originally published more than twenty five years ago, or before the year 1987. So why do I need permission? Where do you think I went wrong?--Nasib Bitar (talk) 01:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Please provide proof that the file was published 'in Egypt according to the guidelines summarised in {{PD-Egypt}}. Slapping a license tag on something, does not mean you're done with it. Cheers! Siebrand 10:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Anaconda Plan.jpg

Please explain why "Library of Congress Civil War Map Collection" was insufficient proof of public domain status. Thatcher(on enwiki) 10:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

That cannot be observed anywhere. The only text on the file description page was: {{PD-old}}. This is one of the clearest examples of an unsourced file. Cheers! Siebrand 10:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Try; I found it in 6 seconds.

Scott's great snake. Entered according to Act of Congress in the year 1861 by J.B. Elliott of Cincinnati.

Elliott, J. B.


NOTES Scale not given.

Reference: LC Civil War Maps (2nd ed.), 11

Cartoon map illustrating Gen. Winfield Scott's plan to crush the Confederacy, economically. It is sometimes called the "Anaconda plan."

--Thatcher(on enwiki) 10:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that is why that is the job of the uploader, not of the one noting something is wrong with sourcing. Cheers! Siebrand 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Now that I have provided a source are you going to restore it, please? Thatcher(on enwiki) 11:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and I started to say something, but deleted it, but your response brings it back to mind. It was transwikied last year with exactly that source. I suppose whoever moved it (and then deleted it from enwiki) thought the description and context were proof enough of its age. It was deleted here apparently because someone has sharper eyes or a narrower interpretation of policy, and yet there was no attempt that I can see to notify anyone on enwiki where it was being used. (I can't tell if the uploader here was notified since I can't see the deleted history, therefore I don't know whose talk page to check.) No wonder enwiki users are so vocal about trying to make sure that local copies are not deleted when images are transferred to commons. Thatcher(on enwiki) 11:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


Hello Siebrand. Please undelete: Image:32.jpg, Image:Yılmaz Onay Erol Keskin'le 1968.jpg, Image:Yilmaz Onay Rıfat Ilgaz Sempozyumu Kastamonu 2006.jpg, Image:Nazım Hikmet Kültür Merkezi 1990.jpeg. Owner sent an e-mail to info-tr for permission and i moved to permission-commons a few minutes ago. Best regards.--Machiavelli talk 15:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

   Done Please add the OTRS permission tag asap. Siebrand 16:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Moving images?

Hi, I recently stumbled over Commons:Village_pump#Moving images - why is it so hard?, and had a few questions and a request which I do not expect to be anwered there any more, unless I directly ask someone more competent. So, can "Moving of images" already be done, and if yes, by whom? TX, --WeHaWoe 07:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Files cannot be moved. What is possible is to create redirects within the namespace Image:. That means that you create a redirect from Image:RedirectedImage to Image:Test.jpg, and then you can add Image:RedirectedImage anywhere, and Image:Test.jpg will be used. Hardly renaming, and does not really solve the problem, because the source will remain the incorrectly named file.
So we re-upload files, then orphan the source, and delete the source with reference to the target. We use tags ({{rename|tonewname|reason}}, trusted users to add the tags, and a bot (Commons:MediaMoveBot) to do the heavy lifting. In local wikis this is probably not worth while, but here it is definitely added value to have media files named correctly, as it increases chances for finds and usage, just like proper description and categories. It suck, but it is reality.
A risky rewrite of the file backend for MediaWiki, and a conversion of existing file stores should be performed, planned for a long time already, but no one is working on it as far as I know, to make native file renaming possible. The idea would be to store files under their sha1 and human readable file names would only be table entries, always pointing to the file that cannot have a name different from its sha1. Obviously this introduces new challenges regarding uploading of new versions, synchronisation when using shared file repositories, etc. To sum it up: not trivial. Which is probably why no one has gotten around to doing it.
Well, there you have it. More clear now? Cheers! Siebrand 08:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I do think so ;) -- TX --WeHaWoe (talk) 19:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to ask your opinion: Should I rather re-upload the two files in question, (to be more precise, a third one showed up meanwhile) or just "leave it as-is"?? WeHaWoe (talk) 19:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Just tag. Let the bots do the heavy lifting... If you really cannot wait, re-upload, tag the old one {{new name}}. Siebrand 10:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not very young and sometimes feel pretty close to what in German is called de:DaU (Dümmster Anzunehmender User = most stupid user which you can expect to exist -- the translation en:Luser is'nt exact on this, imo -- in German, it's derivated from de:GAU, which would be translated as "maximum credicle accident", for instance in a nuclear power plant ;]) -- so, I CAN wait, but how please do I have to tag such pics? I thought that {{new name}} would only be appropriate after a re-upload was already done (which, of course, I'd like to avoid)? Or am I wrong on this?. Best+TX, Wolfgang --WeHaWoe (talk) 08:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Wolfgang. Use {{rename|better name.extension|optional reason}} Siebrand 08:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
TX. --WeHaWoe (talk) 08:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot CommonsDelinker

(Sorry for my English, I'm not good in this language). Hi, I belive, there is a little problem with this bot or with the organization of deletion: for example, we have in ru-wiki a project "World famous paintings" (ru:Википедия:Проект:Известные картины). It is a list of paintings made as a <gallery></gallery>, as you can see. So, somebody erased here painting image:Francisco_Goya_-_Saturno_devorando_a_un_hijo.jpg. And instead of replacing it with match copy, for example image:Goya - Saturno devorando a su hijo.jpg, this bot simply erased all the mention of this painting from this list at all. That is a notable loss for the project. We used to belive to CommonsDelinker's edits and not to check after it, but now I've checked, and saw that this way it erased[14]from our list one more painting - Giorgione's Judith, that was also easely to replace with copy. It is not very bad for usual article, but for listes/galleries it is. Can I ask for a little bit more accuracy in deleting of such files with already existing but not used replacements? It is bad to simply delete it without replacements. Or it is not bot's problem, but the users' who deleteted this files without marking of duplicates? Thanks. --Shakko (talk) 19:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

All duplicate deletes should be checked before deletion, and not deleted before it has been made certain that the file has been orphaned. You should definitely complain with the deleting admin. Sometimes CommonsDelinker cannot replace. You can check successful and failed replacements here. Cheers! Siebrand 19:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Friedrich_August_III..jpg

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This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Friedrich_August_III..jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag, then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}} to release it under the multilicense GFDL plus Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike All-version license or {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain. See Commons:Copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find all your uploads using the Gallery tool. Thank you. ShakataGaNai Talk 21:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

The pic was identified (in deWP) to be a scan from a 1914 or even later postcard (without mentionning the painter, it seems), therefore will very probably not survive even in deWP. --WeHaWoe (talk) 09:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Book pages

What is different about book pages? They're still dupes. RlevseTalk 21:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Books happen to be sequences of pages. If two pages have been designated the same scan (not being an empty page), something went wrong. That has to be corrected. Deleting the duplicates would cause unneeded confusion in this case. Once we have dealt with all 'regular' dupes, I'll be getting in touch with those that the knowledge to resolve the errors. Siebrand 22:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah so. RlevseTalk 22:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate images with non-duplicate descriptions

Hello. I note cases like Image:John Vachon San Augustine schoolchildren.jpg. I urge you strongly to please make sure any useful information and categorization on the version to be deleted is included on the version to be kept before deleting a "duplicate". Work, information, and useful ways to find the image can be lost otherwise. Thank you for paying attention to this. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 22:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot CommonsDelinker

For some time I find the same problem as topic 28 above: the bot does remove and replace picture in articles, so far so fine, but skips pictures which are in galleries. This one for example I always have to do by hand myself.

Can the bot be updated in that respect? Tauʻolunga (talk) 05:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Only if someone make a regular expression that makes that work well... Please discuss this with User:Bryan. Cheers! Siebrand 08:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

usunięcia strony: Image:Kościół MB Ostrobramskiej w Chrzanowie 12.jpg ‎ (Dupe of Image:Grób z pomnikiem.jpg)

Jestem początkującym i nie rozumię po angielsku. Pomyłkowo zapisałem ten plik pod nazwą: "Grób z pomnikiem.jpg". Dla przejrzystości informacji w "WIKI" pragnąłbym by został plik o nazwie "Kościół MB Ostrobramskiej w Chrzanowie 12.jpg", a plik o nazwie "Grób z pomnikiem.jpg" został usunięty. Proszę o informację, jak należy postępować jeżeli zrobi się taką pomyłkę.

Sorry, outside my babel scope. Siebrand 09:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

joergens.mi dupes

  • First: Thanks for your work. Ich will fix it, when I'll get the time and solutions.
  • Second: Thanks you. You've found a big fault. The books of the dupe series File:Kinder und Hausmärchen (Grimm) 1812 II 386.jpg were partly wrong loaded. I'll fixed it immedeately because the two books from the Grimm Brother's have original hand writings of the two brother and are part of the UNESCO World Document Heritage since 2005 and therefore there shouldn't be any faults

--Joergens.mi (talk) 12:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:STRBSKE PLESO.jpg and Image:Strbske Pleso.jpg

I think you made a mistake when deleting this duplicate. The description and source of the kept file is very different from the information in the original description (upload log comment) of the deleted file. /Ö 15:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

You have also deleted many other "duplicates" without checking for correct descriptions. For example, many Carl Michael Bellman songs you have replaced and deleted so that the song numbers do not match the number of kept file. Either you should not delete such files, or you should edit the descriptions so they mention all songs that use the same melody. /Ö 15:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of duplicate map

I see that you have deleted Image:India_Telangana_locator_map.svg, but the map to be deleted is infact Image:India_Mysore_locator_map.svg, which i had made incorrectly. Please restore Image:India_Telangana_locator_map.svg and delete Image:India_Mysore_locator_map.svg instead --Planemad 17:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

   DoneMonobi (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


I don't know if it's you or your bot who deleted this image, but it was a mistake. Actually, Image:Proposition karta24 A.jpg (and similar names) are my drafts, i use it on the french Graphic Lab to work on graphic demands, so these images are constantly erased and replaced, so they are not usable. Please don't delete them again, i need them. Karta24 18:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll try to remember. Looks like the image you linked here has never existed, though.. Siebrand 20:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, i made a mistake in the link. Karta24 (talk) 14:50, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
It seems you didn't remember actually... On 14th june, you deleted these two images: Image:Proposition karta24 B.svg and Image:Proposition karta24 D.svg... Please do sth to prevent them from suppression! Karta24 (talk) 14:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I'm friend with Lyavelino, and I have taught her how things are here in Commons. I told her, if she wanted to use someone files, she must ask permission, send to OTRS permissions and put the tags in the file's description. So she did. But even she doing this you deleted this image. I'd like to know why.Mizunoryu 大熊猫❤小熊猫 (talk) 00:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The deletion request on the {{OTRS pending}} was made by a sysop (ShakataGaNai. I assumed that OTRS was checked and no permission was found. That is why I deleted. I have asked ShakataGaNai for an explanation and hope he will answer here, too. Siebrand 08:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I checked OTRS and I could not find any mail from milli-pe AT hotmail DOT com on or around 20 April 2008. So far, this deletion checks out... Siebrand 08:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually she got the permission and tagged them few time later that they were flagged for deletion, this was the time I taught her about permissions and OTRS.Mizunoryu 大熊猫❤小熊猫 (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker on Hebrew wikiquote

Hi. FYI: I have just granted CommonsDelinker a bot flag on Hebrew wikiquote. I recommend you ask the local bureaucrats for a bot flag on all the other wikis where your bot doesn't have one yet. Have a nice day, Dolev (talk) 19:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Nah. Asking a bot flag on 740 wikis is a bit too much. We are neutral towards this. Communities should decide for themselves if CD should get a flag or not. Siebrand 19:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


I have removed tags indicating that Image:Napoleon4.jpg, which seems to be the CLEARLY preferred version of the painting, should be replaced with Image:Jacques-Louis David 007.jpg which is a different version, and not anything close to an actual duplicate of the other versions of the painting. I have also reverted edits that were made at a few of the English Wikipedia articles, including Napoleon Crossing the Alps, where all FIVE painted versions of this work are discussed, this was clearly the preferred version, and the previous bot edit would have used the inferior image as a representation of 3 of them. I believe many people would appreciate it if the bot could be run again on other pages where the clearly preferred version of Napoleon on the piebald horse was removed for the muddier scan of the version of him on a brown horse. ~ Stormrider (talk) 21:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your destructions. So many time lost to find official sources... Kindly, --Aristote2 (talk) 18:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for being extremely specific and helping us help you. Cheers! Siebrand 18:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

"Mayors from New Orleans"?

I wish to state my objection to the move of "Category:Mayors of New Orleans" to "Category:Mayors from New Orleans". The new name IMO sounds absurd (what does it refer to-- perhaps a mayor of some city in another state who was born in New Orleans?) and some of the parent categories now seem non-existant. There was no discussion about renaming this category on the talk page nor immediate parent categories before the move. I request a reversal of this move. I am leaving a similar message on at User talk:Rocket000. Thank you for your attention. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

It is not a move I initiated. Please complain with the sysop that gave the command. Siebrand 18:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you much for your reply. It has been moved back. I gave notice here as the move was made by SieBot, and I can see no other relevent sysop from the article history. Where can I find the information about what sysop gave the command? Thank you very much. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 19:54, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your informative reply. -- Infrogmation (talk) 08:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Confusing bot summary

[15]: made me look, because I went "what the heck does Trimpin have to do with Wyoming?" Well, nothing. And neither did the content. I suspect that a bunch of other summaries by the bot in this context have been equally misleading. - Jmabel ! talk 23:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, there are over 100 similarly mis-captioned edits on my watch list. At a quick assay, the edits themselves look fine; the summaries are all wrong. - Jmabel ! talk 23:10, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Somewhat similarly: [16]. Norway is not Germany. - Jmabel ! talk 23:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js Changes

Hey Siebrand. I recently made a small change to the gadget. Boy am I glad it didn't blow up. Anyways - It has been noted that both Copyvionote and the now added Derivativenote should have "Lang?" option. As I don't have a very good working knowledge of this Javascript, I was hoping to cajole you into making the change - Oh mighty master of all things... Period? ^_^ Thanks --ShakataGaNai Talk 23:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Not really my code. I just adapted it a bit, and probably not even that well... :) Siebrand 05:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

About Image:Mitsubishi logo.svg

Excuse me. Why Image:Mitsubishi logo.svg was deleted because of copyvio? Mistubishi logo is created by MITSUBISHI PENCIL CO., LTD. on 1903[17]. So this logo is PD-old. It is not fair use.--Monaneko (talk) 00:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

That is a very interesting view on matters. Siebrand 05:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Siebrand,
Sorry to jump in--I saw this conversation at the Japanese village pump. My arguments may be completely invalid since I can't see what was deleted, but it seems to me that the standard Mitsubishi logo (i.e. the three diamonds and the "Mitsubishi" name) would be exempt from copyright in the first place because it is composed solely of simple text and geometric designs which, as explained at COM:L#Simple design, are not subject to copyright (see the relevant footnote here).
Based on this, could I ask you to reconsider your deletion, or at the very least correct me if I'm wrong about the content of the image? Thank you very much! --jonny-mt en me! 05:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
I disagree without your opinions and deny the request for undeletion. However, I do advise you to make a formal undeletion request on COM:UR, as I am interested in other users' views. Siebrand 10:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the response--that sounds good to me. Before I do, could you just confirm that the logo is something similar to this? I'd hate to put up an undelete request only to find out it's this elaborite piece of artwork or major variation on the regular logo :P --jonny-mt en me! 11:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it's the logo without text. Just the three diamonds coloured and positioned to make it the logo of the company Mitsubishi. Siebrand 14:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Great; thank you kindly! The discussion is up at Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests#Image:Mitsubishi logo.svg. --jonny-mt en me! 15:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Raspberry Bavarois Photo

Hi -

Coul you tell me whether the following statement corresponds to your expectations for a publication in my next book, or if it lacks an element declaration:

« Photo by DimiTalen, Frambozenbavarois.jpg. Source »

I thank you in advance, Arianne

Looks great. Given that it is public domain, formally no credits at all are due. Also see Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia for a more elaborate "HOWTO". Cheers! Siebrand 10:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your prompt reply, Arianne

Help please

I've been searching for the syntax to link a category to the corresponding wikipedia article pelase can you advise? Also I found   but find it hard to believe it has been uploaded by the copyright owner what should be done about this? TR001 (talk) 20:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

inappropriate image names

I see that you deleted Image:Picture 1.png, which was marked as an inappropriate image name, for being a duplicate of other inappropriate user names. This unprotected the page and someone has now uploaded an inappropriately named file to the location. Please refrain from deleting "generic" image names marked with files intended to prevent unhelpful filenames. Thanks, BanyanTree 00:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


What the problem here and who did you notify that you are going to remove the image? I need detailed explanation as fast as posible --Ilyaroz (talk) 02:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The image was tagged by User:Ahonc with no source. It did not contain source information, so I deleted it after 7 days. Special:WhatLinksHere/Image:Cherkasy_Gerb.gif should show you which pages link to the image, among which I expect to be the user that was notified by Ahonc. Cheers! Siebrand 13:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
None of the notification happened.

This is how you work people. First you replace good with the bad and then remove the bad:

(поточн.) (ост.)  22:32, 10 червня 2008 CommonsDelinker (обговорення | внесок) м (12 936 байтів) (Зі сторінки вилучений файл Shpola_s.gif, оскільки він був вилучений з  Wikimedia Commons користувачем Maxim. Причина: Deleted because "In [[w:commons::Category:Un) (скасувати зміни)
(поточн.) (ост.) 00:01, 3 червня 2008 CommonsDelinker (обговорення | внесок) м (12 948 байтів) (Зображення:Shpola_COA.gif замінене на Зображення:Shpola_s.gif за вказівкою користувача Siebrand. Причина: Was in category "Duplicate", exact duplicate.) (скасувати зміни)

Advice please

What to do here: case question. RlevseTalk 09:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd leave it be. The resized one really looks better for me too on your talk page. Cheers! Siebrand 13:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

error in your bot

I have requested my uploaded picture for deletion: Image:Godfrey_Harold_Hardy_.jpg because it has a typo in filename. Why it's so complicated to delete this picture? Unfortunately you bot have now delete the correct picture and keep the wrong: Image:Godfrey_Harold_Hardy_1.jpg In case of duplicate pictures the bot should be check out with points the wrong picture.

Can you correct it?--Skraemer (talk) 08:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The first file has a space before the extension. That looks awkward. That is why the second one was kept, and the first one deleted. Siebrand 08:38, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, you keep the awkward-file: --Skraemer (talk) 19:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hungarian Wikipedia (the people still ask or namespace-renaming)

We love you very much, but we are angry a little bit now... I brought Mrs. Szedlacsek to you, who is a friendly warning in Hungarian Wikipedia ;)

Hi Siebrand! We want our namespaces renamed! Please do something, at least react on the questions! Here is the link: [18] //Danikomolyan? 17:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

--Peti610 (talk) 17:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Winston01 (talk) 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

  •    Support , deserve it. ;) Szedlacsekné rulez! Bennó (talk) 18:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
    There is a lovely little poem by Petőfi, our great-great 19th century archipoet, wich has it's refrain as follows: The people still ask... [do something] :-) Bennó (talk) 18:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
  •    Support or maybe Dick Dastardly: Muttley, do something! ;-) (Nonetheless, you're quite fine! :-)) Cassandro (talk) 21:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
   Done Should be active after the next update of MediaWiki software by Wikimedia. The Portal namespace needs to be changed by a shell user. Siebrand 08:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


This barnstar is an exact duplicate or scaled-down version of: Image:Original Barnstar.png There should be only one copy of an image (except this one).
After getting rid of all the other dupes, you and the other helpers have been speedily awarded.

Commons is virtually duplicates free - Thanks for your efforts! Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You've already got a barnstar from me, and I noticed Rlevse gave you one for your dupe-work. Consider this a well deserved duplicate of either of those... ;) Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Gee. Thanks! :) Siebrand 08:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot query

Is there a bot you would recommend to move some files over to the commons from Most of the images in en:Category:Images of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania have been tagged with en:Template:Copy to Wikimedia Commons. Since there are about 100 of them, I don't want to have to do them all manually. Thanks. Evrik (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

use 08:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Noller.jpg

As stated in the Image page, I'm the author, how should I prove that I gave myself permission?--Paco 13:33, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply to several of your comments

Thanks for your help.

Uploads of own work without a license

Oops! I should have doublechecked.   


.--Paco 15:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Esteban_Terradas.jpg

This image does have source: Source Originally from ca.wikipedia; description page is/was here. Something may have gone wrong with the move to commons. Anyway it's over 80 years old.--Paco 15:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Others as:

And others: I just edited them to restore original contrast, but I'm NOT the author, so I cannot add/decide the license. Something must be wrong with Gallery tool attribution.--Paco 15:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Global account

Hi, Siebrand,

For as far a I can see there are now no more remains of the account User:Aiko. I'm not sure whether it is completely deleted, and if I could add this account to my global account, it is not visible in this tool.

Before, I asked you about the possibility of usurption [19], and as you may know, recently I was allowed to usurp the en:User:Aiko-account, but maybe Commons is not yet ready for account-Usurption? If the User:Aiko-account is indeed deleted, renaming would be another possibility, and maybe you could help me with starting up that procedure. Best regards, hartelijke groeten, - .Aiko (talk) (dot-Aiko) 11:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

See [20]. Cheers, - .Aiko (talk) 08:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


I read your useful description on warp/weft. I would like to use the image you added Kette_und_Schusse in something I am writing for publication. Do you own this image? If so, can you release copyright? with my best wishes Foss

Please be more specific (I really need a link to know what you are talking about). Cheers! Siebrand 22:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Rolling back Delinker

Can you drop by the Village Pump, specificly the thread Commons:Village_pump#Luke_ford_permission? We had a mass removal of images on Commons (over 1100) which Delinker then removed from the other wikisites, as it should have. It's looking more and more like the Commons deletion was done in error and we're almost certainly looking at restoring them all to here. The question's come up about how to undo the what Delinker did, and I think the operator of it would be the best person to answer that question. Tabercil (talk) 15:37, 28 June 2008 (UTC) contains information on link removal and replacements. That's about the only thing I can give you... Siebrand 20:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Help for student

Dear Sir,

My sincere apologies for taking the liberty of writing to you, instead of learning how to use Commons myself.

One of my students (Xavier) uploaded an image that he made, showing the pt:United Parcel Service logo, to be included in his article about that company. You were involved in deleting that image from Commons, with good reason, no doubt.

Xavier is not fluent enough in english, so he asked for my assistance on this matter.

Are you or anybody else available and willing to give Xavier or me some specific directions to try to get that image back on so that it can be included in his article?

I understand that the regular procedure is for a user to learn how to use Commons properly, but Xavier already tried and didn't succeed. At this time, being under pressure to grade all my students work, I can't afford to start learning from scratch about Commons. I'm just trying to mediate this matter, on behalf of Xavier, under the assumption that it would be of mutual interest, to all involved, to make that image available.

Best regards,

Virgilio A. P. Machado

Vapmachado (talk) 00:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


Bot made the following Edit with explanation "Removing "Mika_Tan.jpg", it has been deleted from Commons by Monobi because: Copyvio, no OTRS permissions.)", however I see correct OTRS permissions on the image here (and no deletions in its history). 16:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I found the discussion here. Chewyrunt (talk) 16:35, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Category naming

I agree with this edit, because it is conventional name and uses it. But where is the rule that categories must have English names? There is a long discussion about naming of category of second largest Ukrainian city here.--Ahonc (talk) 13:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

It's what we have been doing and changing for as long as I am active on the Commons. I have no idea if and where this has been put to writing in a policy. It just is... Siebrand 18:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Fussball-Europameisterschaft 2008 should either be renamed to Category:UEFA EURO 2008 (the official name) or -- ooops -- the enWP today changed the article's name (which, to my discomfort, I used yesterday to name pictures I uploaded ;]]]) -- looks like bot-work, anyways ;)
Reason: That Swiss spelling is not even orthografically correct to any other German speakers: For practical reasons, since 1935 Swiss German writers are allowed by law (not forced!) to use "ss" instead of "ß" (for the lack of space on typewriter consoles of that epoch, compared to that officially multilingual nation!). --WeHaWoe (talk) 09:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


Can you make a decision and close this discussion‎? (I cannot do it because I take part in this discussion; and you are neutral sysop).--Ahonc (talk) 07:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

   DoneSiebrand 15:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello. Kharkov should as an established English name, traditionak name, 1:5 Google. In dictionary we see Kharkov (60%), Kharkiv (40%), Kharkov or Kharkiv. In English Wiki you can see "Kharkiv or Kharkov", but this article name was Kharkov and has been renamed back and forward, up and down. --Kharkov Citizen 16:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism by Ukrainian admin Ahonk : [21], [22], [23], --Kharkov Citizen 16:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
It's not vandalism. I and Akhristov explained this at the and of discussion. It's absurd statement. P.S.My nick is Ahonc and I'm not Ukrainian admin, I'm Commons admin.--Ahonc (talk) 18:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

CommonsCat Bot on be-x-old

Is it possible to use {{Commons|Category:<Name>}} syntax with this bot? I don't want to introduce another not localized template and prefer to use existing one. If so, could you please run CommonsCat bot on be-x-old Wikipedia too? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:42, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Just create a localised template equal to Commonscat on be-x-old. I will take care of conversion of current Commons|Category: occurances and add the localised template instead of Commonscat. How does that sound? Cheers! Siebrand 15:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I prefer to keep single template. Is it possible to modify bot code accordingly? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Not really... If you are not making a {{Commoncat}} equivalent available, I will not run the bot on be-x-old. Feel free to adapt "" to suit your needs on your wiki. Cheers! Siebrand 21:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Template:Rename media

Please have a look at Commons talk:MediaMoveBot before answering here. That seems to be a better place for most of this stuff. I'd anyways keep an eye on this talk page ;) Best, Wolfgang --WeHaWoe (talk) 15
24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Siebrand, I just now tried to improve on the de translation -- Template:Rename media/de. My questions:

  1. did you create the original template(s) "Rename" and/or "Rename media",
  2. did you create BetacommandBot, or both/all three of them? If not,
  3. where ist that stuff to be discussed? It seems pretty much worth while to have some little cleanup ASAP in the original(s), see, for instance, User_talk:Collard#File_Naming ;))
  • In short: Renaming a file, say Image:060530-F-4692S-014 (188125762).jpg failed, although the proposal was made by a trusted user (me ;) and (by error) moreover approved by admin Collard. My other proposals, untouched by any admin ;) were correctly dealt by the bot. I later re-signed my four edits concerned and now wait... ;)
Moved to Commons talk:MediaMoveBot --WeHaWoe (talk) 08:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I think that the backlink Template:Rename redirecting to Template:Rename media should be eliminated from the template description, and the links to the outdated version should be changed by a bot. What do you think about? I'm going to do this in the de version, which, thereby, will be rather a proposal for improvement than a translation.
Going to remove backlinks, soon. Besides, create User_talk:WeHaWoe/Sandbox_tl_Rename, User_talk:WeHaWoe/Sandbox_tl_Rename/de, User_talk:WeHaWoe/Sandbox_desc_MediaMoveBot to try out for a while, having stopped to edit German translation. --WeHaWoe (talk) 08:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Question: Would it be manageable, with reasonable effort (by either text="approved" or "pending", or by using a subcategory, depending on "trusted user / admin" status or not), to mark the difference between non- and approved requests? It's not really funny to check each-and-all file histories to find out whether I (=any trusted user) should approve some request, or whether it's already "been done". Unless you know a better place for discussion, let's please talk here. Otherwise my monologue might be moved to any "better place". --WeHaWoe (talk) 08:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Already done (Crossposting at my talk, explanation there). Finn Rindahl (talk) 12:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
My edit on Template:Rename media/de categorized that page as Category:Media requiring renaming ;[ -- and I do not find my mistake. TX, --WeHaWoe (talk) 08:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC) done by Rocket000 --WeHaWoe (talk) 06:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I love it if people take initiatives I start to the next level. Please feel free to improve. I am currently not able to devote a lot of time to Commons. As long as you act in good faith, consult other users when in doubt and actually improve current processes and by that improve Commons, you will not hear me :) BetaCommand runs the bot and has not published the code. It has also not been audited as far as I know. I have asked him to give me the code so I could take care of committing it and getting it improved, but no luck so far. Please discuss the working of the bot with him. Cheers! Siebrand 15:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
TX; I'll do my best not to bore you too much ;) --WeHaWoe (talk) 06:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding a Cyrillic toolbar button

Siebrand, I saw your activity in Image:Button internal link ukr.png. Do you have access to the settings where images are assigned to toolbar buttons? Can you change the ruwiki button image from Image:Button internal link ukr.png to Image:Button internal link Cyrillic.png?--Sergei (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

That button has been imported into the MediaWiki source code. They are two different entities now. Siebrand 08:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
(At the risk of looking overly pesky.) When I edit an article in ruwiki, the toolbar button's image is loaded from Is there a chance to change the path so that no "ukr" is present?--Sergei (talk) 07:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


Hey Siebrand, have you or Bryan ever thought about adding a journal-output to the Commons-Delinker and functionality to undo its actions? One erroneous deletion request of a heavily used image and the ensuing delinking of the image can create quite a bit of work, when it comes to restoring (and even finding) all the changes. --Dschwen (talk) 17:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Sigh, with some minimal research I would have uncovered this. Nonetheless, even more machinefriendly output and an undo/rollback functionality don't seem to exist yet. --Dschwen (talk) 18:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
If only Bryan and I had the time... Siebrand 23:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Messier Object Interwikis

Could you please add interwikis for Messier objects articles on English Wikipedia to Romanian Wikipedia (for example, en:Messier 1 -> ro:Messier 1, from 1 to 110)? Also will be good idea to add {{CommonsCat}} iin English articles. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot flag

Hi! I'm User:Alleborgo, now you have a bot flag on since I've requested it for your bot. Regards. --Alleborgo (talk) 07:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

St. Matthias is not St. Matthew

You did wrong replacing "St. Matthias" by "St. Matthew", because Matthew is the English version of Matthaeus (who wrote the gospel) whereas Matthias ist the twelfth apostle chosen instead of Judas (acts 2). Please revert! --Rabanus Flavus (talk) 14:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

About the Coat of Arms of Mazatlán

I am TonyL, I created most and have worked in the article Mazatlán, in Wikipedia in Spanish. Days ago I noticed you deleted the Coat of Arms of Mazatlán image.

First: according to Mexican laws the owns laws, and Coats of arms belong to the People and there is no need to request permision to use it. Did you know about it?

Would you be so kind to return it to its place?

Any doubt about it, please contact me at es.wikipedia, specially in the article Mazatlán.

Thank you -- 18:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Deleted screenshot

Why you deleted the Moldova In The World website screenshot? I own this website and have all the copyrights concerning it.

And you are...? And which file are we talking about? Siebrand 19:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


Hello, why are all the Brenda Song images deleted?? Because i checked the copyright and a copy of the image from another source and i have found nothing except for the copyrighted flickr image which is posted on flickr, whcih was deleted yesterday immediately with no proof that it is a copyright violation so i am wuite suprised because no petition was made or a page for the amount of votes i am new at wikipedia but from what i have read that is not suitable. The images that were in the english page were all copyrighted and the deleter found no proof of his or hers claim. Thank you for your time. Good luck. (TutorGrl123) 1:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't know. Please ask the deleting admin. Siebrand 19:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


WHY did you delete the OLDER, ORIGINAL image and keep the duplicate?! WHY?! I don't appreciate the image that *I* took and that *I* uploaded being replaced by a copy someone else uploaded.

Too bad. And you are...? Siebrand 19:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


Why has your bot deleted two of my photos and told me in my wikipedia page edit summary that they were exact duplicates of something else - they weren't: they were my original pictures. Emeraude (talk) 11:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

The bot was following orders. You can make it easier to determine what happened by giving the image names and perhaps even the time of deletion. -- carol (talk) 11:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

SieBot@zhwiktionary is approved a bot flag.

I have approved your SieBot@zhwiktionary a bot flag.--Jusjih (talk) 00:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC) (Chinese Wiktionary bureaucrat)

Thanks. Siebrand 19:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

C-17 Globemaster III

Hello Siebrand. I have found these four similar images. They're not exact duplicates, some of them are edits, and some of them are featured images on different Wikimedia Projects. So I didn't want to tag them as dupes before consulting with someone.

Do you think we should consolidate some of them, or should they stay untouched? Kimse (talk) 07:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks to me like the last two can be duped without a doubt. Not certail about the second. Siebrand 19:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


Why have you renamed Category:Odessa to Category:Odesa ??? That's very strange because English wiki-page is Odessa.--Assedo (talk) 02:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Assedo, I put request to SieBot. User:Yakiv Gluck (he is from Odesa) put template {{move}} to category and ask me on IRC to rename it. And I do it. Btw it is correct English transliteration.--Ahonc (talk) 07:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

"Saint" Mark --AndreasPraefcke (talk) 06:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Andreas. SieBot only executes commands. Another admin must have given that command. Check the history of User:CommonsDelinker/commands around the time the cat was moved and once found, please discuss it with that admin. Cheers! Siebrand 19:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Commenting out versus deletion

I'm thinking that the delinker bot should comment out references to stuff rather than deleting it outright. That way it's clear that something has been deleted, and some indication of what it is. Deleting it can damage the text in mysterious and subtle ways and it would take an awful lot of user munging through the history to detect this, and deal with it. Ideally the bot would add information, such as give a hidden URL of where the information was taken from, so that people can look for a workaround (yeah, I know...)Wolfkeeper (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


Your bot deleted this. I found a free image to replace it. How can I find the places where it used to be, so I can put the new image there? Lou Sander (talk) 17:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

My bot does not delete files. You must be mistaken. Siebrand 19:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Name Change

Please can you change my name to The Flying Spaghetti Monster, as I want to now unify my many different accounts on various wiki projects. Cheers. The Odd Git (talk) 14:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

See COM:CHU. Cbrown1023 talk 16:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

CommonsDelinker: new feature?

Hi! I'd like to offer an idea for a new feature for the CommonsDelinker-bot: RELINKING. Right now, when some Commons admin decides to delete an image, the bot helps (or damages, dependent on personal opinion) the Wikipedia's by unlinking the image, so there won't be any red image-links. When the image is restored here, it's mostly too late: all references in the Wiki's are gone.

I'd like to suggest a relinking-feature: when an admin restores an image, CommonsDelinker should look at it's own edits and revert it's own actions about the image. Off course, this can't happen is someone had edited in between, but when CommonsDelinker was the last editor, it could easily do that. I know it's somewhat heavily more cpu-intensive, but it happens less than deleting an image. --Tuvic (talk) 21:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The process isn't that hard, but developer time is hard to come by... contains all edits by CD. The feature request is not new. Someone needs to implement it, and Bryan does not have the time... Siebrand 22:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Mmm, too bad. :-( Ah, well, I'll just be furthermore irritated by some Commons admins, then. Hell, I might even take a look at the original Delinker-code. (most lightly I wont, but you never know :-)) --Tuvic (talk) 07:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Bot flag for CommonsDelinker on ar.wp

please, can you accept this request, we need your approval. Thanks --Bassem JARKAS (talk) 06:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

We are neutral to a bot status for CommonsDelinker and think this should be completely up to the communities to decide. We have agreed to not interfere in any way with bot approval processes. Some communities choose to give it the flag, other do not. Cheers! Siebrand 12:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

You have mail!

Hi Siebrand,

Just wanted to let you know that I sent you an e-mail. I imagine this discussion has been brought up before, but it's something that I was wondering about. --jonny-mt 08:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Got the mail. Will reply (eventually :P). Cheers! Siebrand 13:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


I gave the CommonsDelinker a very wrong command (move everything from Category:People by alphabet to Category:Alphabetic list of painters instead of the opposite way) and stoped SieBot now. But if I now unblock him again, does the bot still remember his previous comments or not. If he still remembers could you please delete them? -- Cecil (talk) 19:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Bot restarted. Siebrand 22:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I promise I will be much more carefully in the future and not work while stressed. -- Cecil (talk) 22:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Np. Bot cannot edit after unblock though. Strange. IP has not been blocked. Any idea? Siebrand 22:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Was an auto block. Cary fixed it. Please be careful with that, as SieBot edits from Toolserver. You may block many bots... Siebrand 22:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

User:CommonsDelinker user page and edition


The top table at User:CommonsDelinker page says "The bot should currently be active on most all Wikimedia projects". Shouldn't it be either all or most instead of the two of them together? --Javier ME (talk) 21:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Besides, I've seen this edition by the bot at es.wikiquote:

The bot should have deleted the whole image link text

[[Imagen:Romeo and Juliet.jpg|thumb|right|"...el amor es tan fuerte como la muerte..." </br> Eclesiastés 8:6 </br>
Romeo y Julieta en Nueva York - Inspirado en la obra de [[William Shakespeare]]]]

but it was in two paragraphs and only the first one was edited. Maybe the bot is not programmed to reach the closure of the image link? It's just a minor failure. All the other contributions I've seen made by this bot were correct and valuable. Thanks for all --Javier ME (talk) 21:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Nice. You found a case where it didn't work, indeed. I do not think that we are going to try to catch every possible exception. Thank you for changing it manually. As for the user page: feel free to improve. Thank you in advance for that too :P Cheers! Siebrand 21:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Paste-able list

A toast!

User:Rocket000/Sandbox#paste-able Rocket acquired the list, I got NEDit and/or vi which is capable of pasting a column. That made a list which any yoyo running your bot can now paste. "Yoyo" being a kindly nickname for those who can add commands to the delinker but without enabled text editors and a handle on regexp. -- carol (talk) 07:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

   Done When the bot has finished, someone will have to take care of deleting (I do not think redirection makes sense) the source cats. Siebrand 09:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

-- carol (talk) 09:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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