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I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

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File:1115A LEASE BLOCK FOR CAPE ST. GEORGE TO MISSISSIPPI PASSES.png etcEdit

Hi! I'd suggest some images uploaded with you to speedy deletion, because they don't rendered proper and don't used in any projects excluding your personal gallery. —Bandar Lego (talk) 13:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Those were just test files. I was considering uploading a few hundred of those files here, but decided to put them on a separate web page ([1]) because it's so hard to upload here.

Over-categorizationEdit

Hi Xpda, the way you categorize your new pictures is problematic: would you please read this explanation? For example, this picture should only be in the most specific category, namely Category:Dysstroma brunneata, while all the other categories you have put are redundant because they contain it. Thank you in advance for correcting this (and thus for avoiding giving other users more work). --LamBoet (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi LamBoet,
Thanks for the information. I'll fix that immediately in future uploads, and over time I'll remove those superfluous categories in previous uploads. (Incidentally, I'm not sure of the proper way to respond here. Hope this works.) --xpda (talk) 00:50, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! Yes, this way works; what you could also do is use the template {{reply to|Username}} for the other person to be directly notified of your answer :-) --LamBoet (talk) 07:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

BugguideEdit

Hello,
I saw you add reference to bugguide.net so I added this for you:

Small remarks:

Best regards Liné1 (talk) 08:10, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the template and information on taxonavigation! I appreciate the input and I'll make those changes to the files I recently uploaded.
Xpda (talk) 15:22, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks my friend.
I wish you a merry Chrismas!
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 11:54, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


Slow down, pleaseEdit

Hello Xpda,

  1. Be careful, you are not supposed to use a bot without a bot account (like 1, 2...). They really don't like it. I can help you get a bot account if you want
  2. Could you change you Taxonavigation format?
    1. Use include=Lepidoptera (include) instead of include=Insecta. For Insects, I created includes for all orders. Only Template:Coleoptera (include) and Template:Lepidoptera (include) have an (include) in their name. You can find the list of templates here: Category:Insecta Templates to include in Taxonavigation
    2. Use the same formating as all other Taxonavigation in wikicommons (formating that you also used):
      {{Taxonavigation|
      include=Lepidoptera (include)|
      Superfamilia|Noctuoidea|
      Familia|Noctuidae|
      Subfamilia|Noctuinae|
      Tribus|Noctuini|
      authority=Latreille, 1809}}
  3. Please avoid the usage of {{Cite web}}. We created Category:Biology_external_link_templates ({{ITIS}}, {{Bugguide}}) for that. The idea is that when the web site url changes (it happens very very often), we just change the url in the template.

Best regards Liné1 (talk) 07:12, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the information.
  1. I didn't realize a bot account was required. I'll set up a bot account and request permission to run the bot.
  2. I'll be glad to change the taxonavigation format like you suggest. (I also need to make a couple of corrections, removing some questionable ranks.)
  3. I'll be glad to change the citations to use the site specific templates.
I have finished uploading photos and adding categories, but I will definitely clean up "my mess". It will be a lot faster and less error-prone to use the bot for this, so I will probably wait for approval and use it.
Thanks again for the information, and thank you for your patience! Xpda (talk) 15:58, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
(Just passing by) Hi @Liné1:, just a question: why not recommend the widely used Template:Lepidoptera? Is there a difference with the syntax that you mentioned? --LamBoet (talk) 17:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello LamBoet, you are right, {{Lepidoptera}} is widely used. But I want to get rid of it one day. It was created by a friend before Taxonavigation had include= + it supports limited ranks (no superfamilia, supertribus nor subtribus...) + it is no more maintained because creator left and extreemly complex + it is strange to have 99% of taxon articles with {{Taxonavigation}} and 1% with {{Lepidoptera}}.
Hello Xpda, you really are a nice guy + a future good contributor. Cheers Liné1 (talk) 18:53, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Liné1:, thank you for your answer, but I now notice a problem with this {{Taxonavigation}}: it does not automatically categorize the species page into the genus category, so Xpda sets the category manually, and he forgets to put the correct sort key (example here). Is it possible to make {{Taxonavigation}} do this? Otherwise, using {{Lepidoptera}} seems to be a safer option for the moment. --LamBoet (talk) 07:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes LamBoet the only advantage of {{Lepidoptera}} is its automatic category (But {{Taxonavigation}} adds categories like 'Genera of XXX'). But again 99% of taxon categories have manual categories. It seems non-symetrical. Cheers Liné1 (talk) 08:28, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
@Liné1: Sorry for insisting, but if by "99% of taxon categories" you mean the taxa that are not Lepidoptera, your argument is not valid ;-)
Going for the least error-prone method sounds much more important to me than having some asymmetry in the source code. Again, do you think there is a way of having {{Taxonavigation}} catch up with this categorization feature? (I am not sure how it works.) --LamBoet (talk) 16:00, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello LamBoet
My argument is valid: most contributors work on all groups. They are used to Taxonavigation and are bothered by Lepidoptera different behavior.
If you want to dig a bit, try to tell me for which subfamilies {{Lepidoptera}} supports tribus=. Just a nightmare + undocumented + no more changed. Conclusion: no one can change it anymore.
{{Lepidoptera}} does not manage †.
About Taxonavigation, it can be done, but should not. Adding main taxon categories (not categories like 'Genera of XXX') automaticaly is contrary to wikicommons habit: cat-a-lot and hot-cat cannot work anymore + you cannot change the sortkey easely (to add † for example). Before he left, I convinced the creator of {{Lepidoptera}} that it was a bad idea.
He did it at the beginning because {{Taxonavigation}} could not add 'Genera of XXX' automatically. Now it does.
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 08:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Liné1: OK, things are clearer to me now, thank you for your time. --LamBoet (talk) 15:12, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Pictures of BluesEdit

Hi Xpda, I just want to notify you that I have corrected the identifications of some of your pictures: in particular, some of your "Plebejus icarioides" were actually Agriades glandon, and some of your "Plebejus saepiolus" were actually Plebejus anna. I guess you can find them in your watchlist.

Moreover, may I ask if you have seen the underside of this butterfly and that one? The upperside looks compatible with icarioides and/or saepiolus to me. Best regards. --LamBoet (talk) 18:18, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

You're right! Thank you for the corrections. I don't have photos of the undersides of those you mentioned, so I'll change their category to the genus Icaricia. Xpda (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
OK, I have seen your edits, but please mind that glandon is part of the genus Agriades, and Plebejus is not a synonym of Icaricia. Icaricia and Agriades used to be synonyms of Plebejus, but now these are three separate genera. So, if we consider that Agriades glandon, Icaricia saepiolus and I. icarioides are all possible here, the appropriate category for these 2 pictures is Unidentified Polyommatinae. --LamBoet (talk) 23:41, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
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