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License plateEdit

Hi. Are you sure about 69? 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

File renamingEdit

Hi, perhaps I can help. You are giving volunteers a lot of work by asking for files to be renamed. I think there is a much easier way to accomplish what you want to achieve without creating work for other people and throwing away useful information. However, before I go into detail, exactly what is it you want to achieve? Regards, 10:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

I have rolled back your request for a name change of File:A gaggle of cars (2995983829).jpg. Please discuss this and your other renaming requests on this page. Eddaido (talk) 10:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

@Eddaido: Hi! The photos in the series of edits I have been making do not allow for easy searching of what they contain, are misnamed, and/or contain incorrect info. Additionally, these photos, that primarily pertain to London to Brighton Veteran Car Runs, are consequently disorganized with the photos not being in any logical order. The edits correct these problems.
Zcarstvnz (talk) 10:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Do you understand Wikimedia's system of categorisation? I am in Auckland, why do you use the name tvnz? Eddaido (talk) 11:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: In what way is my categorization incorrect? Part of my real name is "Carstvn," which is an incorrect alternate spelling for the Greek word "annointed."
Easy searching. How did you find the files to begin with? If you want to be able to find photos of entrants in the London to Brighton run you don't need to change the file names. Why do you think that's necessary?
I'm pleased you are now leaving in the unique Flickr reference number. Another thing, traditionally one refers to a (say) 1959 Cranberry. I mean if you begin a vehicle file name with the year of the vehicle then the vehicles are neatly sorted into their year of production, under your current system they are not.
You are apparently trying to mess up my carefully chosen file names without any good reason. Please stop it.
ZCars was a tv programme, TVNZ is the name of a group of television channels which once showed ZCars. This is why I asked about your choice of name. Eddaido (talk) 12:03, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
@Eddaido: When you begin a photo of a vehicle with a year, it may be the traditional way to speak, but it does not help sort categories of photos that contain multiple manufacturerers of vehicles. Starting the photo name with the manufacturer, then the year, and then the model sorts the categories into a more logical order. The way you are recommending sorts all of the photos into year order, but ignores every other facet of the photo. Starting with the manufacturer then the year causes the photos to show up alphabetically and then alphabetically by year within the category (followed by model name, etc.)
@Eddaido:Also, Wikipedia does not have a standard that requires vehicle names to start with the year of production. That appears to be your personal standard. A quick check of multiple categories of automobile photos shows that the naming vehicle photos is very random. I looked at photos of the Curved Dash Oldsmobile, and several other categories of car photos, and no standard exists. I certainly did not mean to offend you by changing the name of one (or multiple) of your photos.
@Eddaido:Thanks for the info on the ZCars tv program. No one has ever mentioned this show to me before today. Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
I understand you are unfamiliar with Wikipedia / Wikimedia. May I just explain some things, it will take me a while to set it out in plain language. I'll be back this evening. Eddaido (talk) 08:31, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
OK, do you believe that when you use the search function in the top right hand corner above it only searches through file names? Eddaido (talk) 09:05, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
@Zcarstvnz:Please stop these changes until we have sorted out your intentions. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 11:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Personal Note: This ended with the filing of a user problem dispute report on 27 Feb 18 at Badgering_by_User:Eddaido. The outcome was as follows.

  •   Comment Eddaido, my impression is that you are creating an hostile environment for Zcarstvnz to contribute here. Please, stop it! We do not want such behaviour here on Commons. Wikicology (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

File renamingEdit

I have to confess I am at a complete loss as to why you are creating work for volunteer file movers to no advantage to anyone at all. Why do you do it? Eddaido (talk) 13:16, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Which photo are you referring to? Zcarstvnz (talk) 13:56, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Haven't looked, it hurts, but I'd say pretty much all of them. Your changes seem to be so minor. This kind of change is sensible. I saw it a couple of months ago and thought it was very funny and left it as it was. I think it will be a long time before anyone at all might mistake that car for a Ford Thunderbird. Its fixed now (by someone else). True, people who upload photos can be very casual with file names. If we were to attempt to reach your personal standard for all of them . . .
Regards, Eddaido (talk) 21:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Can you show me where I am violating the Commons:File renaming guidelines? If not, then please stop complaining about the file renaming requests I submit.
The guidelines are broad and your example of a necessary correction, the Franklin incorrectly named as a Thunderbird, is not the only type of file rename allowed. All of my proposed changes fall within the guidelines of file renaming, and the issue of whether the change is minor or major is moot if it falls within these guidelines.
Whether you like the format of the names that I choose for file names is also moot since, according to the file renaming guidelines, there is no standard way for files to be named for the majority of files (except for "such as those that use BSicons or that display football kits," Wikisource files, and books scanned as a whole). There are just as many vehicle photos with the year after the manufacturer as the year before the manufacturer. Neither way is a standard enforced on the site.
Your refusal to explain or tell me what I am doing wrong appears to have us at an impasse. If you won't explain or tell me the issue(s) you have with my renaming, then please stop complaining about my work. Respectfully, Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
I explain and tell you once more: those edits are a waste of your effort (which you are welcome to use) but much more importantly they waste the effort of other volunteers when they carry out your requests because, mostly, those requests of yours are unnecessary. Please just give my continuing comments some thought.
I explained the reasons for the preference for beginning a vehicle image file name with the year of manufacture, must I do it again?
I shall continue to complain while you continue to waste the time and efforts of other people. You are welcome to do what you wish with your own time.
Another convention is to respond on the page where the 'discussion' began - yours.
Eddaido (talk) 09:39, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Once again there is no explanation above what part of the file rename policy I am violating or why my changes are unnecessary. Your preference for naming vehicle images with a year first is just that: YOUR preference or personal standard. It does not appear in the file naming or renaming standards (you say tomaaaato, I say tomahto). Please stop trying to hold me (and others?) to your personal preference/standard. Yes, some edits I make are minor, and they are allowed by the file renaming guidelines. Why is it hard to understand major and minor edits are necessary when both are allowed, and explained, in the file renaming guidelines? Once again, please stop complaining about the file renaming requests I submit when they are allowed by the Wikimedia Commons guidelines. Please leave me alone when I am doing nothing wrong. Respectfully, Zcarstvnz (talk) 10:41, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
P.S. Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers "Don't bite, do what's right. Being a friend is all right."
But you are doing something wrong. I am not biting am I? I thought I have been being tremendously kind am I not? Again: There is no need to be so particular with the naming of the files. You are just making unnecessary work for other volunteers. Now, what part of that do you not understand?
Eddaido (talk) 11:14, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Personal Note: This ended with the filing of a user problem dispute report on 27 Feb 18 at Badgering_by_User:Eddaido. The outcome was as follows.

  •   Comment Eddaido, my impression is that you are creating an hostile environment for Zcarstvnz to contribute here. Please, stop it! We do not want such behaviour here on Commons. Wikicology (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Duesenberg 1937 Model J, Bonhman & Schwartz Landaulet, (formal sedan) (3829448916).jpgEdit

Please tell me why you believe it is important enough for you to trouble other people to fix the spelling of Bohman. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 12:31, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Personal Note: This ended with the filing of a user problem dispute report on 27 Feb 18 at Badgering_by_User:Eddaido. The outcome was as follows.

  •   Comment Eddaido, my impression is that you are creating an hostile environment for Zcarstvnz to contribute here. Please, stop it! We do not want such behaviour here on Commons. Wikicology (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

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Autopatrol givenEdit

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically sighted. This will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to help users watching Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones. Thank you. -- ~riley (talk) 02:45, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

@~riley: Thanks for surprising me and adding me to the Filemover and Autopatroller groups, and the trust you have placed in me. They are both very appreciated! I hope this helps to conclude the discussion on the Admin noticeboard. I hope you have a great week! Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:20, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I seem to have gotten you off one noticeboard, and brought up on another. Oops! Keep up the good work, some feedback for you here that I used in an example on COM:VP in a response. ~riley (talk) 01:44, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Your rename requests for car imagesEdit

Please, fix all the file descriptions. You can use VisualFileChange categorywise. — Speravir – 03:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

@Speravir: Hi! I believe that I was fixing most of the file descriptions as I worked, but I will go back and check. Note that I have only been fixing the Wikimedia Commons file Description and that I leave the original Flickr descriptions alone. If I am supposed to fix the Flickr file description, please let me know. Also, thanks for letting me know about the VisualFileChange tool. I will try it out later today. I hope you have a great week! Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:38, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@~riley: Do I have a responsibility for updating the file description of the files I rename? Speravir seems to imply that I do above, but this is the first I have heard that it is possibly a requirement. On the "LaSalle" renaming requests that I just did, as well as others I have recently done, I fixed the spelling of LaSalle (or whatever the car name was), in the description, but I left the rest alone unless I found a typo or other error. So should I for example in this file, File:LaSalle 1939 Hearse Hot Rod Billetproof (4794459916).jpg go back and change the file description from "I've seen this one on flickr before." to something better that more closely follows the file name? If the file uploader leaves a question mark in the description, I will correct it, but generally speaking its the key words that I fix.
One possibility I thought about is using the Information Field to capture the original information so that it is not lost. For instance the file description for File:LaSalle 1939 Two-Door Touring Sedan - detail (5049467340).jpg tells about the car show, but not what is shown in the photo. Do I just delete the car show info, and put in a better description and thereby lose all of the show details? Maybe there is a policy or a help file on this topic? Thanks for your clarification and assistance. Zcarstvnz (talk) 11:23, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Go, and ask this at the Village Pump. But: Yes: I am convinced that also the description has to be adjusted after this kind of file name change, and, of course not on the source side unless its your own Flickr (or whatever) account. — Speravir – 19:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
As clarified before, no policy on it and no requirement to retain the Flickr descriptions. Give the template a try but if it is too tedious, rewrite the description to how you see appropriate. Our goal is to direct people to pictures appropriately and that can be done using the search bar. ~riley (talk) 23:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Speravir: Instead of pushing someone to do something because "you're convinced", perhaps you should yourself be going to Village Pump to propose it become a rule. Zcarstvnz has no obligation as a file mover to adjust the file descriptions and if he chooses to do so, that is based on his own initiative. That said, Zcarstvnz, you are allowed to change the descriptions however you want to without having to have concern that it may be different than the author originally intended on Flickr (or elsewhere) if you feel it describes the photo better. Commons is based on the principle of change what you can, when you can. If it doesn't happen now, it will happen later. ~riley (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Riley I think you mix up something here: The one who requested about 50 (or so) 70 files to be renamed because of mistakes was Zcarstvnz, the file mover who did these renamings was me. When there are less of these requests I usually do the description fixes myself. — Speravir – 21:42, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
:Ping went wrong, so again: @~riley:. — Speravir – 21:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@Speravir: I don't think there is any mixup here; I am informing you the advice you are providing is without substance. ~riley (talk) 23:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Zcarstvnz, there is no need for the template Information field here (there maybe exceptions). Just the wrong spelling should be fixed. If the information about the car type is missing, this can be added, no need for deleting any car show information. And again: This is just for Commons, not for Flickr unless you own the account there, then you can actually do what you want there. My “go to the village pump” was thought as advice because this kind of question is better answered there. thinking about it maybe the Help desk would be better, though. — Speravir – 01:21, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Some examples for usage of {{Information field}} – I started using it together with {{Notes}} if there are obvious errors in the source and similar things, see these recently renamed examples: La Tosca Montés - Reutlinger.jpg and the files in Category:Song of Norway (film) (see also talk page for them). — Speravir – 02:12, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@~riley, Speravir: I read everything here and at the Village Pump. Since my goal with the file renames is to improve the reliability of the site, I did update the vast majority of the LaSalle file rename descriptions (some were already good). I added an {{Information field}} to one file to preserve the original file description that was completely inaccurate mainly because the file, based on the file description, was being used on a Wikipedia page. The photo was also removed from that page, and I left a detailed note in the "Edit summary" explained why the photo was removed. Thanks for your explanations, clarifications, and help. Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:52, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

File:Cadillac 1907 Model M Coupe.jpgEdit

I'm not sure of your intention here. I thought the vehicle is clearly identified on the photograph. Am I wrong? Eddaido (talk) 08:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

The photo is clearly a Cadillac 1907 Model M. A Model M has a single cylinder engine and a short hood (bonnet) as seen in the photo. A Model H has a long hood for its four-cylinder engine. As I stated here, Courtesy Information, much of the writing on the New York Public Library photos is simply incorrect. Also check out 80 Years of Cadillac LaSalle by Walter McCall, page 24 (Cadillac 1906 Model H Coupe) and page 27 (Cadillac 1907 Model M Coupe). The hood difference can clearly be seen. I also explained this information in the photo description.
Additionally, this cannot be a 1906 Model M, because this body style was not offered on the Model M chassis in 1906. Likewise, this cannot be a 1907 Model H, because this body style was not offered on the Model H chassis in 1907. The only realistic conclusion to be made is that, once again, the person writing information on the front of the photos for the New York Public Library did so incorrectly. The car is a Cadillac 1907 Model M Coupe. Am I wrong? Zcarstvnz (talk) 09:52, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I think you might be but I will go into it later. Eddaido (talk) 09:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
I see you have now added your own thoughts to the file description. There are comments above from both Speravir and Riley and I think they are both right in what they say. Wikipedia and the other projects within its scope all depend on voluntary contributions. Rules are essential but they are minimised. Because of the minimal rules there is a need for these volunteers to fit in with the prevailing culture (and work to change it if he or she so wishes).
I am not certain but I think few cities prosecute pedestrians for walking on the wrong side of its footpaths. Nevertheless if one pedestrian decides to create his or her own way along those paths (disregarding others who also have no restrictions but do fit in with the prevailing customs) that one pedestrian will find a crowded footpath very uncomfortable. Ignoring the customs of others just because there are no rules can be perceived as offensive.
One needs to join the prevailing culture and if that is what is wanted work to change that culture using its own mechanisms.
Something of concern to me is the way you have labelled La Salle files - LaSalle no space is a name once used by General Motors - using my identifications. I believe it is better that a user can see that an image is categorised under a particular identification but Was Not Uploaded with it. It is an alert that all may not be accurate. I regret you have changed all those file names.
Are you competent at identifying old cars? As you may see from my talk page I was put through a long testing period by User:(this is an encyclopaedia, what makes you think you are accurate?) Charles01 and User:mr.choppers
Back later re that Cadillac. Eddaido (talk) 22:30, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
What do you think about the identification in these photos:
Please would you revert your edits. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 23:45, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
This is what a Cadillac 1906 Model H should look like. See page 8. I prefer to use original sources for identification where possible.
https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/brochures_1906_cadillac_advance
Here we have correct Model M photos at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance. Notice the shorter hood and lack of hood louvers in comparison to the Model H in the brochure above.
https://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/512374,7399/1906-cadillac-model-m_photo.aspx
I have written to the GM Photo Store and the Gateway Colorado Automobile Museum regarding their misidentifications. In regards to the GM Photo Store, the car shown in the photo you linked to was a one-off prototype specifically built for Mr. Henry M. Leland to test the concept of building a closed car for the company. The Cadillac four-cylinder car engine, as used in a Model H, would not fit under the hood shown in the New York Library photo nor the GM photo you reference.
I will not revert my edit as original Cadillac literature, Cadillac experts like Walter McCall (previously mentioned above) and actual research for a major judged car event confirms the New York Library photo is not a Model H. Zcarstvnz (talk) 08:55, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
By the way the third website you mentioned has no way to contact the site owner, the guest book does not work, and it appears to be an advertisement site for a car manual bookseller. Such websites do not appear to be authoritative when you cannot contact the publisher even when they contain great amounts of information. Zcarstvnz (talk) 09:02, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Your good faith mistakesEdit

Is it possible you are changing a lot of file names and descriptions under a mistaken belief that they and not you are wrong? For example your many changes of LaSalle to La Salle.

May I suggest you pause and approach the museum concerned: Repository: The New York Public Library. Science, Industry and Business Library. General Collection Division and discuss this matter with them. Eddaido (talk) 21:08, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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