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推薦にあたって edit

推薦者のためのガイドライン edit

まずはじめに、『秀逸な画像ガイドライン』、『画像のガイドライン』をお読みください。

ここでは推薦画像の評価を受ける・する際の必要事項を要約して紹介します。

  • 解像度 - 200万ピクセル以下の写真画像は、特別な理由が無い限り却下されます。1,600 x 1,200 ピクセル（1.92メガピクセル）は200万ピクセルには届いていない事にご注意ください。
コモンズに置かれた画像は一般的なＰＣモニターのみで閲覧されるとは限らず、プリントアウトや高解像度モニターで表示される可能性もあります。将来的にもどのような機器が用いられるようになるかは誰にも予想出来ないので、推薦画像が可能な限り高い解像度を保っている事は重要な事なのです。
  • スキャン画像 - 公式な方針ではありませんが、Help:スキャニングページで各種様々な画像を準備するための有用なアドバイスが提供されています。
  • フォーカス - 通常、重要な被写体は全て焦点が合っていなければいけません。
  • 前景と背景 - 前景や背景に主題ではない物が写り込むと、それは“余計なもの”になり得ます。前景にある物が主題の重要な部分を隠していないか、背景にあるものが構図を損ねていないか（例：後ろの街灯が人物の頭の上から生えているように見える、等）を確認しましょう。
  • 全体品質 - 推薦される画像には高い技術品質が要求されます。
  • デジタル補正 - 見る人を欺いてはいけません。写真画像のキズ・ホコリ等を修正する、良い編集、故意に人を騙す目的でない限り、デジタル補正は一般的に歓迎されます。例を挙げると、色合い/露出補正、シャープ/ボカシ、遠近感歪み補正、トリミング（切り取り）等がこれにあたります。背景に写り込んだ余計な物を取り除く等のさらに大がかりな修正は、{{Retouched picture}}テンプレートを画像ページへ貼付け、修正した旨を記述しましょう。記述漏れや記述ミスがある等、主題を不正確に見せる編集は決して受け入れられません。
  • 価値 - 『全ての画像の中でも特に際立ち、最も価値のある画像』が我々の大きな目標です。秀逸な画像はそれぞれの分野の中でも別格でなけらばならず、故に次の点に留意して下さい。
    • たいていの夕日は美しく見えますが、そういう画像のほとんどは他の夕日画像と大差ありません。
    • 夜景は美しいですが、普通は日中に撮影された写真の方がより詳細を見せてくれます。
    • 必ずしも『美しさに価値がある』わけではありません。

技術的側面では『露出』、『構図』、『動感表現』、『被写界深度』等を見ます。

  • 露出とはシャッタースピードと絞りとの組み合わせの事を言い、適切なトーンカーブが見せる陰影〜ハイライトが有用なディティールを描写します。これをラティチュード（露光寛容度）と言い、このラティチュードの陰影〜ハイライトの領域内において、画像を暗め、中庸、明るめに作る事が出来ますが、デジタルカメラ及びデジタル画像はこのラティチュードの範囲がフィルムに比べて狭いです。ディティールの欠損した影部分は必ずしも「悪い」わけではなく、実際にその様な効果が望ましい場合（部分）もあります。ただしディティールの欠損したハイライト部分が大きく面積を占めるのは良くありません。
  • 構図とは画像画面内での各要素の配置の事を言います。“三分割法”は構図作成には良い方法で、美術学校でも教えられています。まず、画像に水平線と垂直線をそれぞれ２本引き、画像を水平・垂直方向とも３分割します。主題を中央に配置するとたいていは画面に面白味を欠き、水平線と垂直線が交差する４つの交点の内どれか１つに主題を置いた方が良い画面になるでしょう。地平線は画面を半分に切ってしまうので、通常は地平線を中央に配置するべきではありません。上寄り、若しくは下寄りに配置させる方が良いでしょう。主たる考え方としては空間を上手に使い、躍動感・臨場感のある画面を作るという事です。
  • 動感表現 - ここでは被写体の「動き」を表現する手法を紹介します。動きのある被写体は止まって見えるか、もしくはブレて写りますが、これらはどちらの方が良いとは必ずしも言えず、どのような表現意図を持っているかによります。「動感」は主題と共に写り込んでいる他の背景等との関係で表現されます。例えばレーシングカーの撮影。車と背景とが共に止まって見えては、見る側にスピード感は伝わってきません。　なので撮影手法によって車は画面内で止まっているように写り、かつ背景をブレさせることでスピード感が表現され、このような手法を「パンニング（流し撮り）」と呼びます。一方で、背景と共に止まって撮られた高く跳躍したバスケットボール選手は、これは決定的瞬間の「不自然」なポーズになり、これも良い写真になり得るでしょう。
  • 被写界深度（DOF）とは主題の前側から後ろ側までのフォーカスエリアの事を言います。被写界深度は全ての画像で明解な意図のもと選択され、深い、または浅い被写界深度は、画像に品質を与えもし、また損なわせもします。浅い被写界深度は、主題を他の被写体から切り離し、見せたい被写体に注目を集めることが出来ます。深い被写界深度は空間を強調させる事が出来ます。広角（短焦点）レンズは深い被写界深度、逆に望遠（長焦点）レンズは浅い被写界深度が得られる傾向があります。また絞りを絞り込むと被写界深度は深く、解放すると浅い被写界深度が得られます。

グラフィック要素では形状、ボリューム、色、テクスチャー、遠近感、バランス、比率 等を見ます。

  • 形状とは主題に対する輪郭線、及び形状を言います。
  • ボリュームとは主題の立体感に対する品質を言います。立体感は横からのライティングで表現出来、反対に正面からのライティングは被写体を平坦に見せる傾向があり、不向きとされています。自然光の中でベストな光を得るには、早朝か、もしくは夕方の日の光が良いでしょう。
  • 色は大変重要で、強すぎる色合いは好ましくありません。
  • テクスチャーとは主題の表面材質の描写性に於ける品質を言います。表面材質は横からのライティングにより強調され、手に触れて伝わるかのような質感を与えます。
  • 遠近感とは、画像の画面内若しくは外にある消失点で繋がる放射状の直線、これに沿った形で現れる「角度」により表現されます。
  • バランスでは画像の画面内での重心が左右均衡か、若しくは片方に寄る等適切な配置が成されているかを見ます。
  • 比率では画面の大きさに対する被写体の大きさを見ます。一般的に、小さな被写体は小さく写真に表現してしまう傾向にありますが、相応しい撮影手法により小さな被写体を実寸とは逆に大きく見せる事が可能です。例えば、小さな花を大きな山よりも大きく見る事が出来ます。この手法を指して「倒置法」と呼びます。
主題の全ての要素を画像に盛込む必要はありません。多くの写真はそれぞれの個性で評価出来ます。すなわち、画像の色やテクスチャー等々により判断出来ます。
  • 『象徴性か妥当性か』　ー　『秀逸な画像』ではしばしばこのようなテーマで意見論争が起こる傾向にあります。技術的・品質的には出来の悪い写真でも極めて撮影困難な被写体を捉えた写真は、凡庸な被写体を写した品質的に良い写真よりも評価されます。もちろん撮影困難な被写体を写し、かつ品質も良い写真は極めて価値の高い写真と言えます。
画像は時に撮影者と評価者、若しくはどちらか片方の文化的な偏りが見られます。画像の意図は画像そのものの文化的背景により評価されるべきであり、評価者の文化的背景に依存してはいけません。イメージは人に語りかけ、そして慈しみ、怒り、拒絶、幸せ、悲しみ等の感情を喚起させる力を持っています。良い写真から与えられる心地よさには限りがありません。


画像のガイドラインを事前に読めば、あなたの推薦が成就する可能性を最大限に引き伸ばしてくれるでしょう。

新規推薦 edit

推薦に値する価値があると考えられる画像を作った、または見つけたならば、その画像に適切な説明とライセンスが与えられているかを確認し、以下に従ってください。

ステップ１：画像名（接頭Image:を含む）を下のテキストボックス内の文字列の後にコピー＆ペースト、正しく Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:推薦画像名.jpg と記入されているかを確認し、続いて『作品を推薦』ボタンをクリックします。


ステップ２：ページ編集画面上にある指示に従い必要箇所を付記、ページを保存してください。

ステップ３：ステップ２で作成したページへのリンクをFeatured picture candidates/candidate listへ手動で挿入します。ページ編集をクリックし、候補リスト最上部に以下の書式で推薦画像へのリンクを加えます。 

{{Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:推薦画像名.jpg}}

投票 edit

投票には以下のテンプレートを使用します：

  • {{支持}}または{{Support}} （  Support、  Support),
  • {{反対}}または{{Oppose}} （  Oppose、  Oppose),
  • {{中立}}または{{Neutral}} (  Neutral、  Neutral),
  • {{コメント}}または{{Comment}} (  Comment、  Comment),
  • 情報：{{Info}} (  Info),
  • 質問：{{Question}} (  Question).

テンプレート{{FPX|理由}}を用いて、推薦画像が秀逸な画像の推薦に相応しくない旨を指摘出来ます。テンプレートの「理由」部分に、秀逸な画像には明確に値しない事の説明を書き加えます（可能ならば英語で）。

あなたが何故その画像を好むか、または好まないか、特に(  Supportや(  Opposeの投票をする際は簡単な理由を加えましょう。また署名（~~~~）も忘れずに。匿名投票は受け付けられません。

秀逸な画像からの除外 edit

時も経ればやがて『秀逸な画像』の基準も変わります。かつては“充分に価値に値する”と決定されたであろう画像も、その価値は普遍ではありません。ここでは「もはや『秀逸な画像』に値しない」と考えられる画像をリストアップします。リストされた画像へは、{{Keep}}   Keep 及び {{維持}}   Keep （＝『秀逸な画像』に値する）、または{{Delist}}   Delist 及び {{除外}}   Oppose （＝『秀逸な画像』に値しない）を投票します。

あなたが『秀逸な画像』の価値基準に値しないと考える画像があれば、除外候補として提出できます。除外したい画像の画像名（接頭Image:を含む）を下のテキストボックスの文字列の後にコピー＆ペーストします。


あなたが作成した新規除外候補のページに以下を加えます。

  • 画像の作者、投稿者等の出所情報。
  • その画像の“過去の秀逸な画像への推薦”ページへのリンク（画像ページの「リンク節」に表示されています）。
  • あなたが除外と考える理由とあなたの署名。

次に、Commons:Featured picture candidates/removalを編集し、下記の書式で作成した除外候補のページのリンクを手動で最上段に挿入します。 

{{Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/Image:除外画像名.jpg}}

秀逸な画像の候補での方針 edit

総則 edit

  1. 投票期間を終えた後、結果は推薦日時から数えて10日後（下記タイムテーブル参照）に決定します。投票期間は推薦日時から数えて9日と23時間59分です。１０日、またはそれを超えた投票はカウントされません。
  2. 匿名寄稿者による推薦を歓迎します。
  3. 匿名寄稿者による議論への参加を歓迎します。
  4. 匿名寄稿者による投票はカウントされません。
  5. 推薦者票は投票へはカウントされません。支持は明示的かつ言明される必要があります。
  6. 推薦者は自身の推薦をいつでも取り下げる事が出来ます。推薦を取り下げるには "I withdraw my nomination" （推薦を取り下げます）と書くか、テンプレート {{withdraw|~~~~}} を加えます。
  7. ウィキメディア・コモンズのプロジェクトの目的は、全てのウィキメディアプロジェクト（将来的なプロジェクト含む）に於いて自由に利用可能な画像を集積するセントラル・データベースを提供することである、ということを忘れないでください。セントラル・データベースは単純にウィキメディアの保管庫と言うわけではなく、また『秀逸な画像』等のプロジェクトに応じた判断をされるべきではありません。
  8. 推薦日から数えて５日間支持を受けられなかった画像（推薦者票含まず）は候補リストから外されます。（下記タイムテーブル参照）
  9. テンプレート{{FPX}}が貼られた画像は、テンプレート{{FPX}}の適用後は推薦者以外の支持票が無い限り、48時間後に候補リストから外されます。

秀逸と除外のルール edit

候補画像は下記必要事項に準じて秀逸な画像に認定されます。

  1. 適切なライセンス情報が添付されている。
  2. 最低５票以上の支持票を得ている。
  3. 支持：反対比率が2:1 (賛成が3分の2の過半数)以上である。
  4. ２つの同様な画像での異なったバージョンは同時に『秀逸な画像』へは認定されず、より支持票の多かった一枚を認定します。

除外ルールでは、投票期間、及びリストから外される期間は秀逸ルールと同じ期間を取ります。除外候補提出後５日間で提出者以外の   Delist （  Oppose）票が得られなかった候補は、５日間ルールが適用され、候補リストから外されます。

常連ユーザーが推薦・投票の完了方法に従って、推薦投票を閉じることがあります。終了方法に関してはCommons:Featured picture candidates/What to do after voting is finishedを参照。

何よりも礼儀を忘れずに edit

どうか、あなたが評価するその画像が「人の作品」であることを忘れないでください。「これはヒドイ」、「こんなのキライだ」と言ったような表現は避けましょう。もしあなたが『反対』に票を投じなければならないのなら、思いやりを忘れずに。また、あなたの話す英語は、また誰か他の人の話す英語とは同じではないでしょう。慎重に言葉を選んでください。

それでは良い評価を。そして、全てのルールは壊すことが出来るという事を忘れないでください。

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  • This is a historical painting, so we usually do not edit it. This one is more than 400 years old, so the cracks are a normal feature in this case. Yann (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The ceiling (ceiling/teto is what you see inside a building, and a roof/telhado is what you see from the outside) is not horizontal, it is leaning and it is higher on the right side than the left side. There is nothing the photographer can do about it; unless he brings in a building team and have them reconstructing the station. --Cart (talk) 15:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok.   Support ★ 15:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thx Cart for the clarification! Yes, the ceiling is crooked, though I think that this is because the roof is crooked ;) --Plozessor (talk) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support after clarification. --SHB2000 (talk) 00:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a note from a Scandi. These days the languages (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) spoken and written by Scandinavians contain a lot of English words and expressions, and most of us don't know the difference between pure American and British English. We learn and use a hodgepodge from what we pick up in media, films and tv shows, and try to adapt what we say so that people will understand the meaning rather than true translations. It's sort of the Scandi version of Pidgin English. Hence we use the real names of companies like 'Vinmonopolet' (in Sweden, Systembolaget has the same function) when speaking among foreign friends, but terms like 'Liquor Store' when describing it to the public in general. --Cart (talk) 11:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever it should be called, the Vinmonopolet is nowhere near the shown location from 2022, so you'd never find it using this map. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most maps of larger areas are outdated as soon as they are published. --Cart (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support El Golli Mohamed 13:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Leaning keep, but a few comments/questions: 1) why not go with the svg version? 2) It looks like File:City map stavanger.svg is the user's masterwork (in its 24th edition!). 3) Since it looks like the creator regularly updates these, does promoting it to FP prevent that updating? Would it have to be a separate file? I would support a rare exception to the prohibition on changing FPs once they're promoted in a case like this, since updates are likely just going to make it more accurate (and remove mistakes/out of date locations). — Rhododendrites talk |  17:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe – I'll wait and see what others have to say. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those mini-ripples on the water look fine to me. It's what you get when you have a breeze blowing on a lake with no rolling waves. --Cart (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough –   Support. --SHB2000 (talk) 08:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but per the header, only "[e]ditors whose accounts have at least 10 days and 50 edits can vote." Your account only has 24 edits as of 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC). --SHB2000 (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Only silhouettes and bits of skins :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed that for the well-lit scenes that don't require zoom, its image quality is not superior to my phone's. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 03:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Gallery: Commons:Featured_pictures/Animals/In_their_habitats#Artiodactyla (Even-toed Ungulates)
  •   Info created by Giles Laurent - uploaded by Giles Laurent - nominated by Giles Laurent -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support ★ 14:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support nice.--Famberhorst (talk) 16:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Weak oppose That dark blurred area on the right spoils the composition IMHO Poco a poco (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I guess you are talking of one of the two trees? They are the reason the chamois were there: close to them the snow is less deep and they can dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. The trees are thus part of the habitats of these chamois, which is one of the reasons why the gallery Animals in their habitat was chosen for this picture. Also, I actually personally think that they give a nice touch to the image with their soft colors illuminated by the sunset. Also both trees point to the subject and the chamois clearly stands out with its dark color in this snowy background with soft sunset illuminated colors. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support From the point of view of the chosen gallery, I think the composition is appropriate. In my opinion, the blurred elements in the foreground and background can be considered a compositional style. -- Radomianin (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support per Radomianin --Terragio67 (talk) 03:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose (regretfully). I have to agree with Poco2 that the blurred area on the right ruins it. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I still personally think that the background tree is a nice echo of the foreground tree, giving the viewer a sense of what the foreground tree actually looks like while also beeing relevant to the chamois' environment. Giles Laurent (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a fair point, but the tree takes the salience. SHB2000 (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I still think that the chamois stands out way more than the background tree for multiple reasons : 1) the chamois is the clear subject in the middle of the frame ; 2) the chamois is wearing it's black winter coat which makes it stand out compared to the light-colored snow ; 3) the bokeh is cleary separating the subject from the background ; 4) the foreground tree creates perfect leading lines that point directly at the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 5) the snow horizon on the background on the left side creates another leading line to the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 6) the snow on the middleground of the image that goes from the bottom right of the picture to the center also creates another leading line pointing to the subject ; 7) finally, even the background tree is pointing right at the subject. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- Ivar (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 02:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support --Llez (talk) 08:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Bad crop IMO, the photo is mainly just "background". —kallerna (talk) 07:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. The gallery "animals in their habitats" was especially created to feature pictures where a step back was taken and where a wider view is presented. Per creator of this gallery : "It is so great to see the animals as part of photos of their habitat. So please, when you super-record the critters, do also take a step back and compose a few great photos where we can see a bit more of the places where they live". This image is exactly that, it allows to have a wider view that changes from the usual "mugshots" that we often see on animals here. The wider view on this shot was intended for various reasons. It emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. The wider look also allows to see two trees that are relevant to the environment of the chamois in winter because close to them there is less snow on the ground and the chamois can more easily dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. Finally the wider shots also allows to showcase the swiss alps in the background beautifully illuminated by sunset light to complete the scene. If the image would have been cropped/framed to only include the chamois, it would have in my opinion a lot less educational value because we would be missing all these interesting elements about it's habitat. Moreover the wider shots allows to showcase the beautiful sunset colors which is a rare thing to capture with wildlife photography. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If so, the habitat should not be OOF. —kallerna (talk) 13:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The chamois is still the main subject of the image so it's normal to have the focus on him. The bokeh is destined to bring the viewer's attention to the main subject while still allowing to have an idea of the surroundings, without needing to see them in details (or they would steal attention from the main subject). We have several FP on the gallery "Animals in their habitat" that also have bokeh background : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Moreover, except if background is extremely close to the subject (or if the subject is far away), you will always have bokeh at 600mm. The use of a 600mm zoom was intentional, as it creates a compression effect that allows the background elements to look closer than they really are. Here is an exemple with a photo (from the internet) of the Château de Chillon with a probably like 25-35mm lense. The red square illustrates where the Dents du Midi are. Here is now a photo of the Château de Chillon taken from more far away with a 155mm zoom in order to have the Dents du Midi mountain appearing in big behind the castle to make them look like they are closer than they really are. This same technique was used in this shot in order to have the Swiss Alps appearing in the background (else they would be extremely small in the background because they are 40-60km further away). -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This new gallery was not an improvement for several of us. See Strange disconnected extra gallery.
kallerna takes great photographs of animals in their environment, like File:Vicugna vicugna Salar de Chalviri.jpg and File:Faroese sheep Sumba 1.jpg (both FP) and I think that if you choose to include the background, then this visible context should be attractive / aesthetic in some way. Otherwise the animal is just too small -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are comparing a domestic animal like a sheep that can extremely easily be approached + an animal that can also easily be approached by humans (vicuna) to a chamois, a wild animal that can't be approached like that. Both pictures you linked were taken at 21mm and 48mm at a close distance (=no bokeh), which is usually not something that can be done with this animal where you have to use a telephoto lense like the 600mm that I used (=inevitable bokeh). To photograph the animal I had to crawl on the snow and hide my body behind a natural bump on the ground with only my head, camera and hands appearing to the chamois, in order to not disturb him and not feel threatening to him or he probably would have fled. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a bunch of photos of Rupicapra rupicapra on Commons and Wikipedia. So it doesn't seem so difficult to approach them.
Backgrounds in focus don't necessary "steal attention from the main subject", at least not in the two examples shown above.
The problem with long focal lengths is they focus on small things. Everything around gets blurry. So the compromise "subject + around" is difficult. Since it quickly gives an insignifiant small subject lost in a big uninteresting space. I think that's what Kallerna says when writing the photo is mainly just "background". Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look the images from your link you will notice that they have been all taken from very far or with a telephoto lense, and/or went into a big crop, which proves my point that they are not as easily approachable as a domestic sheep or a vicuna. The group of chamois that I saw was a bit nervous and I have no doubt they would very likely have fled if I would be standing up and not lying on the ground with just my head visible. Moreover, for the sheep image you link I personally have my attention very much directed to the houses on the right because they are in clear focus and I personally don't like animal photography with human constructed elements but that's just my personal taste. Finally I don't think that the subject gets lost in a big uninteresting space for this photo because as said above it emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proportionally, it's a huge background with small animal. And the background itself is... white, with almost nothing apart from distracting blurry elements -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's more rare to see such composition on FPC because here people usually only do mugshots of wild animals but there still are other images in the same situation as linked above : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. I personally think that this composition brings value to the image because it allows to have a view of the environment and also because it tells a story that a narrow croped/frame picture would not be able to tell. Also I personally think that the background would be distracting if it was in focus and that the bokeh beautifully separates the subject from the background while still beeing possible to understand the context. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Environment are greats when they fit. Have a quick glance at this picture. What do you see? Two dark forms. One is okay, and one is a strange bush, like saying "hello, I'm here but just a big unclear shape. Try to find something else in this large, large frame" -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only dark form I see is the chamois and I think the background tree brings welcoming nice warm colors to a mostly cold snow background giving a nice mix of warm and cold to the image. The background tree also echoes the foreground tree giving the viewer a sense of its shape. It also is relevant to the chamois environment because the herd went where the trees were for more easily accessible grass. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In theory perhaps, but not out of focus like that, so that when you zoom in, it's just blur in your face! :-) Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you see at unzoomed size that it's a tree I don't see why you would want to zoom at it to see if it's still a tree. Bokeh areas is not meant to be zoomed at since it's not the main subject. You will have the same result when zooming in bokeh areas of these pictures : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it is a normal thing. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... Is it not the third time now these 5 links appear on this page? Lol :-) Honestly the big brown mass was not so obvious as a tree at first sight. You were there, but not the observers. Problem is that these elements you don't see the necessity to see in large size actually dominate -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I repost them for convenience to have clearer view of what is beeing refered to. But I agree that the discussion has become cyclical and that everything was already said (many times). I think it's still quite visible that it's a tree with all the branches and some of them with snow. Yes the domination is actually precisely the point of this composition: to have a small baby chamois depicted in a vast open environment with difficultly accessible grass as everything on the ground is deeply snow covered, except close to the trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Nice light but 1) the feet are hidden, 2) the big blurry brown mass is distracting, and 3) the snowy branch is out of focus. Cluttered composition in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I don't think the feet beeing hidden is a problem for ungulates and we have multiple FP in that situation (in addition to the image of the domesetic sheep you sent yourself above) : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc. Moreover, as explained above, to photograph the animal I had to crawl up a a natural bump in the snow to only have my head, hands and camera appearing to the animal so that it would not feel threatened by me. If I had stood up to have the chamois feet in the image, not only would the chamois have probably fled, but also the composition would have been extremely boring because you would not have the swiss alps in the background and just a boring high-angle shot with just ground visible in the background (click here for an illustration). As for the two trees you mention, they are relevant to the chamois environment. In my opinion the image would have been much more cluttered if they were in focus (which anyway can not be the case at 600mm) and they would also be very distracting in my opinion because they would steal the attention from the chamois. So I still think that having them blured not only creates a good classical foreground, midleground, background photography which gives a 3 dimensional sense to the image but also allow to keep the attention on the main subject. Also, as already said, the foreground tree creates a perfect leading line to the subject just as many others that are present in the image. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would, would, would... if, if, if :-) So to be short, it's sometimes just a question of luck. The environment here was not so cooperative in my personal opinion, but your subjective taste is of course totally acceptable -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing how the chamois were a bit nervous, I have almost no doubt they would have fled if I stood up (but we can never be 100% certain of course). Also, I have been a dozen times to this place and I have no doubt that I was extremely lucky to cumulate multiple favorable factors for this image : 1) there is only a few days/weeks every year that you can have snow there as it is not very high in altitude and also because winters are becoming warmer and warmer lately ; 2) chamois are not often seen there (most of the time it’s just ibexes that are seen) ; 3) the picture was taken with beautiful sunset colors which is rare and lucky for wildlife photography because usually the wild animals will not be placed in a good place or you will face challenging light conditions with for example contre-jour and for this shot I was lucky that the baby chamois was well placed to not have contre-jour, it was also lucky that the chamois was not in a shadow area that would not be benefiting from the sunset colors and it was also lucky that the chamois lifted its head in a way that it could be beautifully illuminated by the soft sunsets light ; 4) the combination of all of the previous elements is extremely lucky because it is way more likely to see the chamois without snow or with no beautiful sunset colors ; 5) it was very interesting to witness how the chamois adapted to this unusual situation for them (snow covering their food and having to go to places with less snow to dig to reach the grass) ; 6) having that small baby chamois far enough from the rest of the herd (especially form the mother) was extremely lucky and allowed to isolate the subject in this big snowy fairy tail environment ; 7) 98% of the time the chamois was just eating/digging the ground with head down and it was only during a very small few seconds that it had its head up like that to monitor me (even though I just had my head, hands and camera visible for him in order to not appear threatening)(but most of the time it was the rest of the herd that kept monitoring me) ; 8) most of the time with wildlife animal you are not able to place yourself to have the elements you want in the background. For this shot I was extremely lucky to be able to have the Swiss alps in the background. 9) the chamois was really perfectly placed with all these leading lines pointing to him, which is uncommon for wildlife photography. With all these elements I honestly personally think this image is of FP level. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You see some qualities but minimize the drawbacks :-) 1) animal partially hidden at the bottom (in addition to being small in the environment), 2) background totally unclear, out of focus (not recognizable mountains) 3) unaesthetic branch. Question of visual balance -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because I honestly personally don't think they are drawbacks (and even if they were, all of the qualities of the image would outweigh them in my opinion) : 1) I don't think having feet partially hidden is a problem for ungulates (see the 15 links above) and is actually even more normal when walking on snow ; 2) for me the background is clear : there's a vast environment with only a few trees and a mountain in the background. I don't think it needs to be in focus as it would steal attention from the subject (and as said above would not be possible anyway at 600mm). The background also tells a story and is relevant to the chamois environment ; 3) I personally think the foreground branch is very aesthetic because it is beautifully covered in snow with beautiful delicate sunset colors. I also like the way they create leading lines to the subject. I understand your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and I think everything was said. Best regards and have a nice day, -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I had a wonderful day :-)
It's very clear on the picture that the feet are hidden, not because deep in the snow but because the foreground is higher in level.
15 examples above (wow!) but all of them with animals at full size. Different from here, small mammal + partially hidden -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to hear you had a wonderful day. I understand your view about partially hidden feet and proportion. What I am saying is that not only it's not disturbing for ungulates having feet not visible but that also it is also unavoidable to have that in snow anyway, even if a few inches would have been gained by standing up (at the cost of having the animal flee away and having a way less interesting background). On some of the 15 links mentioned you will even have much greater portion not visible. I personally prefer this picture than these two FP chamois pictures I made : image n°1 and image n°2 because on these two links it's just a chamois "mugshot" and there's not much context to it. This actual image is way more special in my opinion because of the fact that it was shot in a snow environment, moreover with beautiful sunset lights, and that this picture is even is able to give a context of the chamois' environment and behavior in winter in that place. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Unavoidable"? Type "chamois in snow" on Google and you'll see almost all the pictures display the feet (example).
The number of extraordinary buildings that failed at FPC because something distracting was ruining the composition... Same case here in my view. On the surface, the animal represents maybe 3 or 4 %. The rest is like empty on a "symbolic" level. Content matters -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unavoidable on deep snow, not on undeep snow that was already flatened by walking on it. I personaly don't think the trees are distracting and that on the opposite they bring value to the composition has it's part of it's environment and explains why the chamois would prefer to be close to it. This picture has just as much "animal surface" than these ones for example : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and it is a perfectly normal thing for depicting animals in their environment. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@El Golli Mohamed with your comment saying "it's really easy for those who have never practiced wildlife photography to criticize", you certainly ignore that the best art critics in this world aren't artists themselves. They just know what they're talking about, with enough background and knowledge. Moreover, this platform is open to everyone. No diploma requested to participate. That's also valid for all the voters who support birds or very cute cats. Similarly you can also meet people having strong convictions on architecture photography without knowing anything about the subject nor the difficulty. Please stay focus on the topic, if you have something interesting to share about the content, just let us know -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you say is not contradictory to what I said. I didn't say that it was forbidden to criticize a style of photography that you have never practiced, but that it was too easy to do so. After that, saying that you know a subject very well without ever having practiced it doesn't really convince me. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be upset or frustrated because I opposed a picture of your birds and my vote suddenly put an end to the enthusiastic series of supports. Hopefully because something true was said.
What I'm explaining concerning reviews: First, great art critics are usually not artists. Which means they don't practice at all. No painting in their hands. Only knowledge, feelings, sensibility. And they usually know what they're talking about. Same happens when you enjoy a music or a movie, you don't need to be musician nor director or comedian, you just need to master a field that is about giving fair appreciations. And criticizing an art work is never "too easy" for these professionals. Secondly, it's far more easy to cast an empty vote with nothing written, or with nothing constructive, than expressing a subjective opinion, finding the words, detailing a reasoning, and if necessary courageously going against the consensus. I appreciate Giles's works in general, but I'm sorry not all the FPCs are always promoted. And I think all the authors (myself included) often lack objectivity. That's why various points of view are necessary -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm casting empty votes like you said parceque je n'aime pas trop "étaler ma science" par ici. Je crois que je vais clore ce débat inutile. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's your way of participating. But read also the guidelines. COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". Greetings -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support As a wildlife photographer, I understand the challenges that often arise when capturing images in cold climates and at high altitudes. I have gone out to photograph in temperatures of -20°C to -30°C, which is common in this region of Quebec. I have also been at 5,000 meters above sea level in the Andes (reaching there on foot without a cable car). In such conditions, it's not just tough on the stomach; I remember that taking three steps felt like running an entire stadium, the heart beats very fast, the hands feel like they are burning despite special gloves, and the stomach feels like you have diarrhea all the time. I agree that an image should speak for itself, but we must consider the circumstances: a cold and high place is very different from a photo of farm animals. I respect others' opinions, but I want to support this photo for its merit and difficulty. --Wilfredor (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Excellent shot. I would have cropped it a bit on the left, given that there's a lot of weight on the right. That being said, I particularly like that the image shows the habitat. The bokeh of the lens is nice and in general there's nothing wrong with out-of-focus elements in an image. Thanks for uploading so many top-notch photos here, Giles! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support I like the simplicity and spontaneity of it. Everything seems almost right about this picture as a whole, including the out-of-focus areas. The shot is aesthetically pleasing and even artistic when all parts are considered. The main theme or subject is fuzzy, uncertain, and it feels like you have to activate peripheral logic to understand it. It’s airy, minimalistic and breathes air of contemplation. I also think it is child-friendly in its innocence, many babies and young children would love it. --Argenberg (talk) 21:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The beak is just about okay, but not the crest above, nor the eyes, nor even the crest around the neck. The focus is really further away, probably because the bird was moving forward. Or because the focus point was not adequately targeted -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment A striking snapshot, but unfortunately the technical quality is inadequate. I wonder why the image received QI status when head and eyes are not in focus. -- Radomianin (talk) 09:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for asking, Charles. As for dissenting votes, I prefer to use them very thoughtfully. If possible, I try to convey my opinion with a comment or, if in doubt, a neutral vote. However, if it's necessary to prevent a promotion in the interest of common consensus, I do so - as in this example. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand. But your policy, whilst it avoids creating enemies, skews nominations in favour of promotion. I have had to give up opposing nominations except in exceptional circumstances (e.g. ethics), so I have also stopped supporting excellent nominations which is a shame. The general enmity and frequent hostility from other users made my life too stressful, so I can see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, it is not possible to hide the identity of voters. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your thoughts, Charles. I think a detailed, reasoned dissenting vote is very valuable to be constructive for the image and the photographer. However, a constructive comment can be equally helpful in not scaring off new talent. An offer of help can also rescue a nomination. Because FPC thrives on diversity, which is not always the case. I have also learned a lot on this forum over the years, and yet I can't get enough of participating regularly and enjoying the contributions of fellow users. Speaking only for myself, it may not always be easy, but as in real life, learning from mistakes strengthens your skills and ultimately your level of confidence. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 10:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your comment, El Golli Mohamed. I didn't know about that, and I'm sorry that there were differences. If I may express my humble opinion in general, perhaps past misunderstandings should be settled in respectful agreement in order to look forward to the future unencumbered. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Charlesjsharp and El Golli Mohamed: Thank you for letting me know, Charles. I was not aware of the incident, but I found the relevant entry. Please allow me to share my opinion as an outsider: It is not okay to insult, El Golli Mohamed. It is also not okay to feel provoked or to provoke. We should always remember the principle of assuming good intentions. If someone feels provoked, it might be a good idea to wait a bit before responding calmly. I think it would be appropriate for you to settle your differences, perhaps with an apology. What is the point of remembering past incidents? I'm sure you're both friendly and outgoing people in real life, so you should look to the future and not lose focus on the main goal of our presence here: Working together to build a valuable media library for reusers. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You can take a look at my Cream-coloured Courser's nomination. You will understand. A kind of unbearable repetitive sticks in the wheels. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 20:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I assume it's about this nomination. You withdrew the nomination two days after it was created. I think this was a bit hasty. Please don't be discouraged by comments and be patient. With some nominations, reviewers are undecided at first and decide to review the image later. Your assumption, mentioned on the nomination page, that there is a lobby that does not want to judge the photo is not correct, in my opinion. You may want to consider reversing your withdrawal to allow the nomination to run its course. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's okay, I already nominated another photo. I didn't say I was surrounded by a lobby, I said there was a lobby (so a minority, two or three) that discourages most of the participants here. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The ferruginous crest of the grebe is the most interesting part of the bird and it is in focus. You can't shoot at F11 in wildlife photography to have all the depth of field from the tip of the beak till the crest in focus for such a situation. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand that it is very challenging to create such ambitious images. However, as I see it, the focus in your photo is mainly on the flight feathers, as even the impressive crest is not completely in focus. I suspect that the bird's movement towards you was faster than the autofocus. I think if the crest had been sharper, the eyes and head would also have been more in focus than they are now. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course it's not easy to camouflage yourself and wait for the bird to come towards you with this raised crest look without it seeing you. Afterwards you have to react quickly and the autofocus in this kind of light does not allow you to point the eye quickly enough. Either you wait for the autofocus to catch the eye and you can miss a very nice shot or you give priority to the trigger even if it does not catch the eye perfectly. I have many classic photos of Great Crested Grebe with a clear eye but with this atmosphere this is the only photo. Anyone who has ever practice wildlife photography knows what I'm talking about. An art critic will focus on the sharp eye. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 22:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand your point of view. Thank you for your detailed explanations. The work of wildlife photographers is something that I have a great deal of respect for. -- Radomianin (talk) 07:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your advice, the shooting conditions were particularly difficult, this statue of sleeping Buddha is located on the uppermost terrace. I couldn't figure out how to fix this problem. If the image is not OK for FP, I will quickly remove it from the proposals made Best regards. --Pierre André (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • This is a historical painting, so we usually do not edit it. This one is more than 400 years old, so the cracks are a normal feature in this case. Yann (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The ceiling (ceiling/teto is what you see inside a building, and a roof/telhado is what you see from the outside) is not horizontal, it is leaning and it is higher on the right side than the left side. There is nothing the photographer can do about it; unless he brings in a building team and have them reconstructing the station. --Cart (talk) 15:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok.   Support ★ 15:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thx Cart for the clarification! Yes, the ceiling is crooked, though I think that this is because the roof is crooked ;) --Plozessor (talk) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support after clarification. --SHB2000 (talk) 00:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a note from a Scandi. These days the languages (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish) spoken and written by Scandinavians contain a lot of English words and expressions, and most of us don't know the difference between pure American and British English. We learn and use a hodgepodge from what we pick up in media, films and tv shows, and try to adapt what we say so that people will understand the meaning rather than true translations. It's sort of the Scandi version of Pidgin English. Hence we use the real names of companies like 'Vinmonopolet' (in Sweden, Systembolaget has the same function) when speaking among foreign friends, but terms like 'Liquor Store' when describing it to the public in general. --Cart (talk) 11:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever it should be called, the Vinmonopolet is nowhere near the shown location from 2022, so you'd never find it using this map. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most maps of larger areas are outdated as soon as they are published. --Cart (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support El Golli Mohamed 13:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment Leaning keep, but a few comments/questions: 1) why not go with the svg version? 2) It looks like File:City map stavanger.svg is the user's masterwork (in its 24th edition!). 3) Since it looks like the creator regularly updates these, does promoting it to FP prevent that updating? Would it have to be a separate file? I would support a rare exception to the prohibition on changing FPs once they're promoted in a case like this, since updates are likely just going to make it more accurate (and remove mistakes/out of date locations). — Rhododendrites talk |  17:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed. --Basile Morin (talk) 07:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe – I'll wait and see what others have to say. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those mini-ripples on the water look fine to me. It's what you get when you have a breeze blowing on a lake with no rolling waves. --Cart (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough –   Support. --SHB2000 (talk) 08:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but per the header, only "[e]ditors whose accounts have at least 10 days and 50 edits can vote." Your account only has 24 edits as of 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC). --SHB2000 (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Only silhouettes and bits of skins :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed that for the well-lit scenes that don't require zoom, its image quality is not superior to my phone's. --The Cosmonaut (talk) 03:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Gallery: Commons:Featured_pictures/Animals/In_their_habitats#Artiodactyla (Even-toed Ungulates)
  •   Info created by Giles Laurent - uploaded by Giles Laurent - nominated by Giles Laurent -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support ★ 14:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support nice.--Famberhorst (talk) 16:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Weak oppose That dark blurred area on the right spoils the composition IMHO Poco a poco (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I guess you are talking of one of the two trees? They are the reason the chamois were there: close to them the snow is less deep and they can dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. The trees are thus part of the habitats of these chamois, which is one of the reasons why the gallery Animals in their habitat was chosen for this picture. Also, I actually personally think that they give a nice touch to the image with their soft colors illuminated by the sunset. Also both trees point to the subject and the chamois clearly stands out with its dark color in this snowy background with soft sunset illuminated colors. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support From the point of view of the chosen gallery, I think the composition is appropriate. In my opinion, the blurred elements in the foreground and background can be considered a compositional style. -- Radomianin (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support per Radomianin --Terragio67 (talk) 03:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose (regretfully). I have to agree with Poco2 that the blurred area on the right ruins it. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I still personally think that the background tree is a nice echo of the foreground tree, giving the viewer a sense of what the foreground tree actually looks like while also beeing relevant to the chamois' environment. Giles Laurent (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a fair point, but the tree takes the salience. SHB2000 (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I still think that the chamois stands out way more than the background tree for multiple reasons : 1) the chamois is the clear subject in the middle of the frame ; 2) the chamois is wearing it's black winter coat which makes it stand out compared to the light-colored snow ; 3) the bokeh is cleary separating the subject from the background ; 4) the foreground tree creates perfect leading lines that point directly at the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 5) the snow horizon on the background on the left side creates another leading line to the center of the frame where the subject is placed ; 6) the snow on the middleground of the image that goes from the bottom right of the picture to the center also creates another leading line pointing to the subject ; 7) finally, even the background tree is pointing right at the subject. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 22:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support -- Ivar (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 02:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support --Llez (talk) 08:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Bad crop IMO, the photo is mainly just "background". —kallerna (talk) 07:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. The gallery "animals in their habitats" was especially created to feature pictures where a step back was taken and where a wider view is presented. Per creator of this gallery : "It is so great to see the animals as part of photos of their habitat. So please, when you super-record the critters, do also take a step back and compose a few great photos where we can see a bit more of the places where they live". This image is exactly that, it allows to have a wider view that changes from the usual "mugshots" that we often see on animals here. The wider view on this shot was intended for various reasons. It emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. The wider look also allows to see two trees that are relevant to the environment of the chamois in winter because close to them there is less snow on the ground and the chamois can more easily dig the snow with their hooves to eat the grass. Finally the wider shots also allows to showcase the swiss alps in the background beautifully illuminated by sunset light to complete the scene. If the image would have been cropped/framed to only include the chamois, it would have in my opinion a lot less educational value because we would be missing all these interesting elements about it's habitat. Moreover the wider shots allows to showcase the beautiful sunset colors which is a rare thing to capture with wildlife photography. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If so, the habitat should not be OOF. —kallerna (talk) 13:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The chamois is still the main subject of the image so it's normal to have the focus on him. The bokeh is destined to bring the viewer's attention to the main subject while still allowing to have an idea of the surroundings, without needing to see them in details (or they would steal attention from the main subject). We have several FP on the gallery "Animals in their habitat" that also have bokeh background : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Moreover, except if background is extremely close to the subject (or if the subject is far away), you will always have bokeh at 600mm. The use of a 600mm zoom was intentional, as it creates a compression effect that allows the background elements to look closer than they really are. Here is an exemple with a photo (from the internet) of the Château de Chillon with a probably like 25-35mm lense. The red square illustrates where the Dents du Midi are. Here is now a photo of the Château de Chillon taken from more far away with a 155mm zoom in order to have the Dents du Midi mountain appearing in big behind the castle to make them look like they are closer than they really are. This same technique was used in this shot in order to have the Swiss Alps appearing in the background (else they would be extremely small in the background because they are 40-60km further away). -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This new gallery was not an improvement for several of us. See Strange disconnected extra gallery.
kallerna takes great photographs of animals in their environment, like File:Vicugna vicugna Salar de Chalviri.jpg and File:Faroese sheep Sumba 1.jpg (both FP) and I think that if you choose to include the background, then this visible context should be attractive / aesthetic in some way. Otherwise the animal is just too small -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are comparing a domestic animal like a sheep that can extremely easily be approached + an animal that can also easily be approached by humans (vicuna) to a chamois, a wild animal that can't be approached like that. Both pictures you linked were taken at 21mm and 48mm at a close distance (=no bokeh), which is usually not something that can be done with this animal where you have to use a telephoto lense like the 600mm that I used (=inevitable bokeh). To photograph the animal I had to crawl on the snow and hide my body behind a natural bump on the ground with only my head, camera and hands appearing to the chamois, in order to not disturb him and not feel threatening to him or he probably would have fled. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a bunch of photos of Rupicapra rupicapra on Commons and Wikipedia. So it doesn't seem so difficult to approach them.
Backgrounds in focus don't necessary "steal attention from the main subject", at least not in the two examples shown above.
The problem with long focal lengths is they focus on small things. Everything around gets blurry. So the compromise "subject + around" is difficult. Since it quickly gives an insignifiant small subject lost in a big uninteresting space. I think that's what Kallerna says when writing the photo is mainly just "background". Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look the images from your link you will notice that they have been all taken from very far or with a telephoto lense, and/or went into a big crop, which proves my point that they are not as easily approachable as a domestic sheep or a vicuna. The group of chamois that I saw was a bit nervous and I have no doubt they would very likely have fled if I would be standing up and not lying on the ground with just my head visible. Moreover, for the sheep image you link I personally have my attention very much directed to the houses on the right because they are in clear focus and I personally don't like animal photography with human constructed elements but that's just my personal taste. Finally I don't think that the subject gets lost in a big uninteresting space for this photo because as said above it emphasizes the small size of the subject and the fact that it is still a small baby on a big snow covered environment with only a few trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Proportionally, it's a huge background with small animal. And the background itself is... white, with almost nothing apart from distracting blurry elements -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know it's more rare to see such composition on FPC because here people usually only do mugshots of wild animals but there still are other images in the same situation as linked above : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. I personally think that this composition brings value to the image because it allows to have a view of the environment and also because it tells a story that a narrow croped/frame picture would not be able to tell. Also I personally think that the background would be distracting if it was in focus and that the bokeh beautifully separates the subject from the background while still beeing possible to understand the context. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Environment are greats when they fit. Have a quick glance at this picture. What do you see? Two dark forms. One is okay, and one is a strange bush, like saying "hello, I'm here but just a big unclear shape. Try to find something else in this large, large frame" -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only dark form I see is the chamois and I think the background tree brings welcoming nice warm colors to a mostly cold snow background giving a nice mix of warm and cold to the image. The background tree also echoes the foreground tree giving the viewer a sense of its shape. It also is relevant to the chamois environment because the herd went where the trees were for more easily accessible grass. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In theory perhaps, but not out of focus like that, so that when you zoom in, it's just blur in your face! :-) Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you see at unzoomed size that it's a tree I don't see why you would want to zoom at it to see if it's still a tree. Bokeh areas is not meant to be zoomed at since it's not the main subject. You will have the same result when zooming in bokeh areas of these pictures : 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 and it is a normal thing. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... Is it not the third time now these 5 links appear on this page? Lol :-) Honestly the big brown mass was not so obvious as a tree at first sight. You were there, but not the observers. Problem is that these elements you don't see the necessity to see in large size actually dominate -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I repost them for convenience to have clearer view of what is beeing refered to. But I agree that the discussion has become cyclical and that everything was already said (many times). I think it's still quite visible that it's a tree with all the branches and some of them with snow. Yes the domination is actually precisely the point of this composition: to have a small baby chamois depicted in a vast open environment with difficultly accessible grass as everything on the ground is deeply snow covered, except close to the trees. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Nice light but 1) the feet are hidden, 2) the big blurry brown mass is distracting, and 3) the snowy branch is out of focus. Cluttered composition in my view -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. I don't think the feet beeing hidden is a problem for ungulates and we have multiple FP in that situation (in addition to the image of the domesetic sheep you sent yourself above) : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc. Moreover, as explained above, to photograph the animal I had to crawl up a a natural bump in the snow to only have my head, hands and camera appearing to the animal so that it would not feel threatened by me. If I had stood up to have the chamois feet in the image, not only would the chamois have probably fled, but also the composition would have been extremely boring because you would not have the swiss alps in the background and just a boring high-angle shot with just ground visible in the background (click here for an illustration). As for the two trees you mention, they are relevant to the chamois environment. In my opinion the image would have been much more cluttered if they were in focus (which anyway can not be the case at 600mm) and they would also be very distracting in my opinion because they would steal the attention from the chamois. So I still think that having them blured not only creates a good classical foreground, midleground, background photography which gives a 3 dimensional sense to the image but also allow to keep the attention on the main subject. Also, as already said, the foreground tree creates a perfect leading line to the subject just as many others that are present in the image. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would, would, would... if, if, if :-) So to be short, it's sometimes just a question of luck. The environment here was not so cooperative in my personal opinion, but your subjective taste is of course totally acceptable -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing how the chamois were a bit nervous, I have almost no doubt they would have fled if I stood up (but we can never be 100% certain of course). Also, I have been a dozen times to this place and I have no doubt that I was extremely lucky to cumulate multiple favorable factors for this image : 1) there is only a few days/weeks every year that you can have snow there as it is not very high in altitude and also because winters are becoming warmer and warmer lately ; 2) chamois are not often seen there (most of the time it’s just ibexes that are seen) ; 3) the picture was taken with beautiful sunset colors which is rare and lucky for wildlife photography because usually the wild animals will not be placed in a good place or you will face challenging light conditions with for example contre-jour and for this shot I was lucky that the baby chamois was well placed to not have contre-jour, it was also lucky that the chamois was not in a shadow area that would not be benefiting from the sunset colors and it was also lucky that the chamois lifted its head in a way that it could be beautifully illuminated by the soft sunsets light ; 4) the combination of all of the previous elements is extremely lucky because it is way more likely to see the chamois without snow or with no beautiful sunset colors ; 5) it was very interesting to witness how the chamois adapted to this unusual situation for them (snow covering their food and having to go to places with less snow to dig to reach the grass) ; 6) having that small baby chamois far enough from the rest of the herd (especially form the mother) was extremely lucky and allowed to isolate the subject in this big snowy fairy tail environment ; 7) 98% of the time the chamois was just eating/digging the ground with head down and it was only during a very small few seconds that it had its head up like that to monitor me (even though I just had my head, hands and camera visible for him in order to not appear threatening)(but most of the time it was the rest of the herd that kept monitoring me) ; 8) most of the time with wildlife animal you are not able to place yourself to have the elements you want in the background. For this shot I was extremely lucky to be able to have the Swiss alps in the background. 9) the chamois was really perfectly placed with all these leading lines pointing to him, which is uncommon for wildlife photography. With all these elements I honestly personally think this image is of FP level. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You see some qualities but minimize the drawbacks :-) 1) animal partially hidden at the bottom (in addition to being small in the environment), 2) background totally unclear, out of focus (not recognizable mountains) 3) unaesthetic branch. Question of visual balance -- Basile Morin (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because I honestly personally don't think they are drawbacks (and even if they were, all of the qualities of the image would outweigh them in my opinion) : 1) I don't think having feet partially hidden is a problem for ungulates (see the 15 links above) and is actually even more normal when walking on snow ; 2) for me the background is clear : there's a vast environment with only a few trees and a mountain in the background. I don't think it needs to be in focus as it would steal attention from the subject (and as said above would not be possible anyway at 600mm). The background also tells a story and is relevant to the chamois environment ; 3) I personally think the foreground branch is very aesthetic because it is beautifully covered in snow with beautiful delicate sunset colors. I also like the way they create leading lines to the subject. I understand your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, and I think everything was said. Best regards and have a nice day, -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! I had a wonderful day :-)
It's very clear on the picture that the feet are hidden, not because deep in the snow but because the foreground is higher in level.
15 examples above (wow!) but all of them with animals at full size. Different from here, small mammal + partially hidden -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to hear you had a wonderful day. I understand your view about partially hidden feet and proportion. What I am saying is that not only it's not disturbing for ungulates having feet not visible but that also it is also unavoidable to have that in snow anyway, even if a few inches would have been gained by standing up (at the cost of having the animal flee away and having a way less interesting background). On some of the 15 links mentioned you will even have much greater portion not visible. I personally prefer this picture than these two FP chamois pictures I made : image n°1 and image n°2 because on these two links it's just a chamois "mugshot" and there's not much context to it. This actual image is way more special in my opinion because of the fact that it was shot in a snow environment, moreover with beautiful sunset lights, and that this picture is even is able to give a context of the chamois' environment and behavior in winter in that place. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Unavoidable"? Type "chamois in snow" on Google and you'll see almost all the pictures display the feet (example).
The number of extraordinary buildings that failed at FPC because something distracting was ruining the composition... Same case here in my view. On the surface, the animal represents maybe 3 or 4 %. The rest is like empty on a "symbolic" level. Content matters -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unavoidable on deep snow, not on undeep snow that was already flatened by walking on it. I personaly don't think the trees are distracting and that on the opposite they bring value to the composition has it's part of it's environment and explains why the chamois would prefer to be close to it. This picture has just as much "animal surface" than these ones for example : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and it is a perfectly normal thing for depicting animals in their environment. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 14:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@El Golli Mohamed with your comment saying "it's really easy for those who have never practiced wildlife photography to criticize", you certainly ignore that the best art critics in this world aren't artists themselves. They just know what they're talking about, with enough background and knowledge. Moreover, this platform is open to everyone. No diploma requested to participate. That's also valid for all the voters who support birds or very cute cats. Similarly you can also meet people having strong convictions on architecture photography without knowing anything about the subject nor the difficulty. Please stay focus on the topic, if you have something interesting to share about the content, just let us know -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What you say is not contradictory to what I said. I didn't say that it was forbidden to criticize a style of photography that you have never practiced, but that it was too easy to do so. After that, saying that you know a subject very well without ever having practiced it doesn't really convince me. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:34, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may be upset or frustrated because I opposed a picture of your birds and my vote suddenly put an end to the enthusiastic series of supports. Hopefully because something true was said.
What I'm explaining concerning reviews: First, great art critics are usually not artists. Which means they don't practice at all. No painting in their hands. Only knowledge, feelings, sensibility. And they usually know what they're talking about. Same happens when you enjoy a music or a movie, you don't need to be musician nor director or comedian, you just need to master a field that is about giving fair appreciations. And criticizing an art work is never "too easy" for these professionals. Secondly, it's far more easy to cast an empty vote with nothing written, or with nothing constructive, than expressing a subjective opinion, finding the words, detailing a reasoning, and if necessary courageously going against the consensus. I appreciate Giles's works in general, but I'm sorry not all the FPCs are always promoted. And I think all the authors (myself included) often lack objectivity. That's why various points of view are necessary -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm casting empty votes like you said parceque je n'aime pas trop "étaler ma science" par ici. Je crois que je vais clore ce débat inutile. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 07:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's your way of participating. But read also the guidelines. COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". Greetings -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support As a wildlife photographer, I understand the challenges that often arise when capturing images in cold climates and at high altitudes. I have gone out to photograph in temperatures of -20°C to -30°C, which is common in this region of Quebec. I have also been at 5,000 meters above sea level in the Andes (reaching there on foot without a cable car). In such conditions, it's not just tough on the stomach; I remember that taking three steps felt like running an entire stadium, the heart beats very fast, the hands feel like they are burning despite special gloves, and the stomach feels like you have diarrhea all the time. I agree that an image should speak for itself, but we must consider the circumstances: a cold and high place is very different from a photo of farm animals. I respect others' opinions, but I want to support this photo for its merit and difficulty. --Wilfredor (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Excellent shot. I would have cropped it a bit on the left, given that there's a lot of weight on the right. That being said, I particularly like that the image shows the habitat. The bokeh of the lens is nice and in general there's nothing wrong with out-of-focus elements in an image. Thanks for uploading so many top-notch photos here, Giles! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support I like the simplicity and spontaneity of it. Everything seems almost right about this picture as a whole, including the out-of-focus areas. The shot is aesthetically pleasing and even artistic when all parts are considered. The main theme or subject is fuzzy, uncertain, and it feels like you have to activate peripheral logic to understand it. It’s airy, minimalistic and breathes air of contemplation. I also think it is child-friendly in its innocence, many babies and young children would love it. --Argenberg (talk) 21:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The beak is just about okay, but not the crest above, nor the eyes, nor even the crest around the neck. The focus is really further away, probably because the bird was moving forward. Or because the focus point was not adequately targeted -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment A striking snapshot, but unfortunately the technical quality is inadequate. I wonder why the image received QI status when head and eyes are not in focus. -- Radomianin (talk) 09:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for asking, Charles. As for dissenting votes, I prefer to use them very thoughtfully. If possible, I try to convey my opinion with a comment or, if in doubt, a neutral vote. However, if it's necessary to prevent a promotion in the interest of common consensus, I do so - as in this example. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand. But your policy, whilst it avoids creating enemies, skews nominations in favour of promotion. I have had to give up opposing nominations except in exceptional circumstances (e.g. ethics), so I have also stopped supporting excellent nominations which is a shame. The general enmity and frequent hostility from other users made my life too stressful, so I can see where you are coming from. Unfortunately, it is not possible to hide the identity of voters. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your thoughts, Charles. I think a detailed, reasoned dissenting vote is very valuable to be constructive for the image and the photographer. However, a constructive comment can be equally helpful in not scaring off new talent. An offer of help can also rescue a nomination. Because FPC thrives on diversity, which is not always the case. I have also learned a lot on this forum over the years, and yet I can't get enough of participating regularly and enjoying the contributions of fellow users. Speaking only for myself, it may not always be easy, but as in real life, learning from mistakes strengthens your skills and ultimately your level of confidence. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 10:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks for your comment, El Golli Mohamed. I didn't know about that, and I'm sorry that there were differences. If I may express my humble opinion in general, perhaps past misunderstandings should be settled in respectful agreement in order to look forward to the future unencumbered. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Charlesjsharp and El Golli Mohamed: Thank you for letting me know, Charles. I was not aware of the incident, but I found the relevant entry. Please allow me to share my opinion as an outsider: It is not okay to insult, El Golli Mohamed. It is also not okay to feel provoked or to provoke. We should always remember the principle of assuming good intentions. If someone feels provoked, it might be a good idea to wait a bit before responding calmly. I think it would be appropriate for you to settle your differences, perhaps with an apology. What is the point of remembering past incidents? I'm sure you're both friendly and outgoing people in real life, so you should look to the future and not lose focus on the main goal of our presence here: Working together to build a valuable media library for reusers. Best, -- Radomianin (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You can take a look at my Cream-coloured Courser's nomination. You will understand. A kind of unbearable repetitive sticks in the wheels. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 20:28, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I assume it's about this nomination. You withdrew the nomination two days after it was created. I think this was a bit hasty. Please don't be discouraged by comments and be patient. With some nominations, reviewers are undecided at first and decide to review the image later. Your assumption, mentioned on the nomination page, that there is a lobby that does not want to judge the photo is not correct, in my opinion. You may want to consider reversing your withdrawal to allow the nomination to run its course. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's okay, I already nominated another photo. I didn't say I was surrounded by a lobby, I said there was a lobby (so a minority, two or three) that discourages most of the participants here. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The ferruginous crest of the grebe is the most interesting part of the bird and it is in focus. You can't shoot at F11 in wildlife photography to have all the depth of field from the tip of the beak till the crest in focus for such a situation. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand that it is very challenging to create such ambitious images. However, as I see it, the focus in your photo is mainly on the flight feathers, as even the impressive crest is not completely in focus. I suspect that the bird's movement towards you was faster than the autofocus. I think if the crest had been sharper, the eyes and head would also have been more in focus than they are now. -- Radomianin (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course it's not easy to camouflage yourself and wait for the bird to come towards you with this raised crest look without it seeing you. Afterwards you have to react quickly and the autofocus in this kind of light does not allow you to point the eye quickly enough. Either you wait for the autofocus to catch the eye and you can miss a very nice shot or you give priority to the trigger even if it does not catch the eye perfectly. I have many classic photos of Great Crested Grebe with a clear eye but with this atmosphere this is the only photo. Anyone who has ever practice wildlife photography knows what I'm talking about. An art critic will focus on the sharp eye. El Golli Mohamed (talk) 22:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand your point of view. Thank you for your detailed explanations. The work of wildlife photographers is something that I have a great deal of respect for. -- Radomianin (talk) 07:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your advice, the shooting conditions were particularly difficult, this statue of sleeping Buddha is located on the uppermost terrace. I couldn't figure out how to fix this problem. If the image is not OK for FP, I will quickly remove it from the proposals made Best regards. --Pierre André (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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