Commons:Valued image candidates/Araucaria subulata JdP.jpg

Araucaria subulata JdP.jpg

**declined**
Image
Nominated by	Jebulon (talk) on 2010-09-12 00:17 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Araucaria subulata (branch)
Used in	Global usage
Reason	First photograph in "Commons". Rare and endemic plant of New-Caledonia. -- Jebulon (talk)
Review (criteria)	Support all criteria met --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Oppose -- For this general scope the whole tree should be shown. Why not narrow the scope to e.g. 'leaves' ? -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 08:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Comment 'Branch' for a conifer, I too would advocate. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] agree with 'branch' -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 13:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Oppose Per Alvesgaspar. Also branch is not a good subscope, it is not well-defined. Should be restricted to fruit (here: cone), flower, bark and leaves IMO. Lycaon (talk) 13:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Comment As you know, I am neither a specialist, nor an amateur botanist. I just want to show the best (and maybe the more useful for "Commons" users) as possible. Well, "branch" ? Happy to precise the scope as you like. --Jebulon (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Botanically not very sound. It is as using a scope like "Loxodonta africana (african elephant), leg" . Lycaon (talk) 18:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Comment For many genera of trees, species are not well-illustrated or distinguished by an image of the whole tree. A related discussion occurred for Commons:Valued image candidates/Acer glabrum 4809.JPG. That discussion established the precedent of a successful mainscope nomination of an image of foliage and fruit for a tree species. For this one, because it does not show the fruit (cone) which appears to be a distinguishing feature of the genus, I would support the subscope "foliage". I think File:Araucaria subulata.jpg is better for the mainscope. Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] Comment I added the words "branch and foliage" (in french too) in the description page. --Jebulon (talk) 13:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply] `Result: 1 support, 2 oppose => declined. Myrabella (talk) 12:22, 19 September 2010 (UTC)`[reply]