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Moved from User talk:Steinsplitter. —Mono (how to reply) 02:08, 19 June 2014 (UTC) Hi, let's talk about the buttons on the main page.

The change I made did a couple of things:

  • Fixed this layout problem
  • Added an intuitive contact us button. (Buttons are much better than links for demonstrating to new users that an action can be taken.)
  • Retained the upload button for logged in users

I was working on a way to only show the upload button to logged in users, meaning there would be 3 buttons at most visible at any time.

Does that sound like an acceptable solution to you?

Thanks, —Mono (how to reply) 19:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, There is a contact us link in the sidebar, i don't see the need to flood otrs with too much mail and i don't see the need to have two upload buttons on the mainpage. --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:01, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
There are 22 links in the sidebar and they all look the same, not counting language links. We could definitely replace the upload button with a contact us button. However, it makes sense to me to have a upload button in the 'Participating' section because that is the most obvious way to participate in Commons. —Mono (how to reply) 20:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
One upload button on the Main Page is imho enough (users are not blind) and no need for a contact us button, why a such button? --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:06, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
There is a need, it's very difficult to find that page among the 22 links in the sidebar. Plus, buttons are much better than links for demonstrating to new users that an action can be taken. —Mono (how to reply) 18:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Imho no need ;) I suggest you start a discussion on Talk:Main page. --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Moved from User talk:Steinsplitter. —Mono (how to reply) 02:08, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Odd results Bing vs GoogleEdit

I had occasion to throw "wikimedia commons" into Bing and was suprised at the top result. It was for this site but one of the sub categories offered was an eyebrow raiser. Curious I tried the search with Google and got the same top result and most of the same sub categories. There was one major difference. Why does Bing identify "Penis" as a major sub category for Wikimedia Commons? Saffron Blaze (talk) 14:31, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

@Saffron Blaze: That's odd. Maybe we should no index that category? —Mono (how to reply) 00:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
@Mono: But it needs a community wide discussion. Pinging Trijnstel for opinion. Jee 03:19, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Do we understand why it is happening? If not, no-indexing the category would be premature ejaculation. It could simply be Microsoft thinks Commons is a bunch of dicks? Saffron Blaze (talk) 04:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
It's most likely due to being linked to from several outside sites. Personally, I would favor noindexing it as such search results make Commons far more likely to get censored by outside agencies (or prudish parents). See Lmzimm's comment at Category talk:Nude women for example. Kaldari (talk) 18:40, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
@Saffron Blaze: Thoughts? Kaldari (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

@Kaldari: I tried turning on SafeSearch on Google, and submitting the query "nude women" This category did not show up (though it did, of course, prior to turning on SafeSearch). There was a small message that said: "The word "nude" has been filtered from the search because Google SafeSearch is active." So, I'm not sure if no-indexing this particular category offers any advantage over what people can achieve already with Google. (I'd guess that Bing works much the same way.) -Pete F (talk) 19:38, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

@Peteforsyth: The issue isn't with searching for "nude women", but with searching for "wikimedia commons". If the first results returned by Google or Bing for "wikimedia commons" involve nude women, that's likely to raise some eyebrows and play into the hands of those who would prefer to block Wikimedia Commons entirely (schools, China, parents, etc.). (Not to mention just giving people the wrong impression of the site.) Kaldari (talk) 06:24, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I understand that. I guess I don't feel confident enough in my understanding of what would motivate an entity to ban access to Commons, to have much of an opinion on this proposal. There are of course a lot of reasons somebody might search on this term, plenty of them legitimate -- so enabling "noindex" does seem like a pretty extreme step to me. I don't know the best path forward. Carry on... -Pete F (talk) 17:55, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Link to Category:Media needing categoriesEdit

Why not add a link to Category:Media needing categories with a short explanation to the Participating section? It's one major way of participating, and more categorizers are always needed. --Jonund (talk) 17:30, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

There is already a direct link to it under Category:Unidentified subjects. Isn't it enough? Jee 17:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


These three links at the top right need more space between them, as they are currently showing up (to me, on FF 17.0.9 for Linux) as all "one word". Suggest inserting either non-breaking spaces or vertical bar characters to separate them. - dcljr (talk) 23:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@User:Dcljr I've increased the padding between these elements. Can you see if that works for you now? --99of9 (talk) 00:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Definitely separates the items, but now perhaps by too much! I think "0.5em" (or even "0.3em") should suffice, since the padding is applied on both sides of each item. - dcljr (talk) 02:33, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, 0.5 it is. --99of9 (talk) 00:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks fine here. - dcljr (talk) 23:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


!Silesian Page!Edit

Hello, I have maked a silesian main page: Przodńo_zajta, please add it to the box Krol111 (talk) 16:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 17:10, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

MOTD descriptionEdit

I can't edit it, but the description of the Media of the Day is incorrect:

"The video illustrates the behavior of the the propellers of a helicopter because of the effect soil produced by the wind which hit against the soil."

should be:

"This video illustrates the behavior of the propellers of a helicopter because of the ground effect produced by the wind hitting the ground."

--Slashme (talk) 19:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

✓ Done, I'm wondering whether anyone ever reads these captions before they go live. --rimshottalk 20:58, 31 July 2014 (UTC)