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Yours sincerely,   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 10:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

South Sudan borders edit

Hello.

Can you add the borders of South Sudan in the widely used maps File:Carrefour world map.svg   Done, File:Dunkin Donuts world map.svg   Done, File:Dunkin Donuts world map updated.png   Done, File:H&M world map.svg   Done and File:IKEA world map.svg   Done?

Can you remove Russia in the widely used File:Dunkin Donuts world map updated.png   Done, just like in File:Dunkin Donuts world map.svg   Done(Russia was already edited) and add the borders of South Sudan in all these aforementioned maps?

Sepatately, can you add the borders of South Sudan in the maps in the request section "South Sudan borders required in orthographic maps" which I added in Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop back in October 2022?

Can you also add the border of South Sudan in File:US and Russian bases and facilities.jpg as well?   Done

I also requested an update of this map in Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop back in October 2022, which is just below the "South Sudan borders required in orthographic maps" section. This map also requires a few other corrections as well, which I addressed in this section.

Yours sincerely, Maphobbyist (talk) 10:42, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

@Maphobbyist I have started on this as you can see above. Check everything, it's so easy to make a mistake.
All the maps which are bitmaps with different angels are impossible to get correct and hard to get the line to be the same as the others, and are a bit tricky to fix. So I want you to check this draft and see if that is fine for you. I have to guess for the rotation/angel of the border in all of that kind of map. So tell me, is this "quality" enough? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:53, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the updates. The draft with the new border is perfect. However, Azerbaijan needs to be colored in white, because it does not host any foreign base and never hosted a U.S. base. It hosted a Russian base until 2013. Georgia, likewise needs to be colored in blue (like Armenia or Belarus), because it also never hosted a U.S. base. It has Russian bases on its territory occupied by Russia (Abkhazia and South Ossetia). --Maphobbyist (talk) 09:31, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
@Maphobbyist Please always ping me. One thing at the time, right now my question was just the draft, the rest I will do in time, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:02, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
@Maphobbyist Now I have   Done the files here and I will work on your requests as Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop back in October 2022. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you very much for all your work.
In File:US and Russian bases and facilities.jpg   Done, can you color Georgia in the same light blue color as Armenia, Belarus and Syria? It appears as dark blue, like as a part of Russia. That is the last required correction left.
File:Togoland map.png   Done has not been uploaded and South Sudan does not appear.


(In File:Iraq (orthographic projection).svg and File:Russian Federation (orthographic projection).svg, there is not a way of uploading them nor is there a "revert" button, which is unusual. Both files seem to be protected from edits somehow, even though both need to be updated and are used across Wikipedia. I don't understand why they reverted them to the obsolete versions and their reason for doing so. I will ask the users who last reverted them, to update them back.) --Maphobbyist (talk) 17:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Maphobbyist I hope I got it right now. They might be protected against vandalism but should there not be a template then? If you can't out anything there is one way I never tried, there is an code edit directly for svg but I have never used it before so I don't know if it will work here. See what you can find out, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
I wrote to the user who last reverted File:Russian Federation (orthographic projection).svg; the other user who last reverted File:Iraq (orthographic projection).svg has recently retired. I requested an update for both files from the active user. Hopefully, he will reply and explain, and perhaps revert them to the updated version. Separately, how do I ping you for all the other files that you have updated, so you can close my requests in Commons:Graphic Lab/Map? They are all up to date. Maphobbyist (talk) 21:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
@Maphobbyist I'm not really sure I understand your questions on ping and close but here are answers to what I think you asked.
  • If you want to ping me put this code {{Ping|Goran tek-en}} in edit mode (to the right of your requests (or section) headline there is a link for edit) or Replay mode.
  • To close your requests. You as the requester should put out a piece of code which you will find at the bottom of your request in edit mode (to the right of your requests headline there is a link for edit). Copy and paste it above <!--
  • If this is not what you asked for please explain again, thanks.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Hello.
No codes appear in edit mode. Because I use the internet from my cell phone, many things that appear on a computer screen, don't appear on the cell phone, and nor can I for example upload a file in Wikimedia Commons.
--Maphobbyist (talk) 15:04, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
  This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

@Maphobbyist: On this specific request there is no such code even on a computer. I guess the request wasn't created as it should and that's why the code is missing. If you check your other request there is that code on a computer. I have put out the code for those two. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

File:Dunkin Donuts world map updated.png edit

 
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2600:100C:A21B:9ED1:55B9:69E3:601D:D8ED 08:28, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you! edit

  The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
Thank you for your great contributions on Commons:Graphic Lab/Map workshop. Please keep up the good work! HeminKurdistan (talk) 18:07, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
@HeminKurdistan Thanks for that, I enjoy this work. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

File:Dunkin Donuts world map.svg edit

 
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2600:100C:A202:5967:9887:2E7F:5894:8FB5 02:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Western Sahara Walls edit

You remember File:Western sahara territorial control topographic map-en.svg and File:Western sahara moroccan walls topographic map-en.svg, I mentioned that there is one more wall built in 2021 I did not have data yet. Now I have found some, so can you include it?--Antemister (talk) 08:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

@Antemister Sure just provide so I understand it. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:53, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Sent you two shapefiles, bermaa refers to a tiny gap which is still a natural barrier, and bermbb the new wall, finished in March 2021 (no not know the start date of the building).--Antemister (talk) 07:00, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
The email address I have saved seems to be inactive, if you did not receive anything, sent me a Wikimail.--Antemister (talk) 07:04, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister You will have to provide me with some kind of references. I have the shape files but I can't see how the fit them geographical to the surrounding? Print screen or something, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:50, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Sent you a screenshot, it is in the northeastern area, on Moroccon territory next to the border to Algeria. The red line shows the natural barrier which is currently shown in the map, the yellow squares the 5th wall. The grey dots are the new wall, while in the area which the brown dots there is no wall the barrier remains natural (likely to small to be visible in that scale). The part of the 5th wall which is enclosed, the western border of the "parallelogram", is to be removed, as internal walls are not shown anymore in the maps.--Antemister (talk) 16:05, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister Thanks, found the area and position but I don't understand the color information as I can't see it like that.
This is what I get when opening your zip in QGIS. Could you somehow explain in this image or another screenshot where I can see that info, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
QGIS assigns random colors to layer if you do not set a fixed one, so when you opened it you see completely different colors. Here green is the new wall and yellow the small remaining natural barrier.--Antemister (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister 9th Wall draft. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 09:44, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
seen it, three issues:
1) the northern border of that parallelogram bermbb is of course a natural barrier, but there is now anyway a wall built near that cliff, so that should be also indicated here.
2) don't remove that part of the 5th wall behind, it is still there.
3) for the date write "???-Mar 2021", like for the 2nd one.
--Antemister (talk) 16:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister I don't understand #1. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 10:12, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Sent you an email with an image.--Antemister (talk) 15:33, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister Daft 9-2. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:43, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes that's it. For me it looks like that the legend for the 9th wall is smaller, but maybe I am mistaken. Can you also edit the other variant?--Antemister (talk) 20:03, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister Checked the legend. Will be away for a few days will be back. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:02, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister Are draft 9-1. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:55, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
@Yes, fine, as expected, thanks!--Antemister (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
@Antemister New versions uploaded   Done --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:33, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Vatican City flag and coat of arms edit

@Goran tek-en: hello! I have a new request for you. since 7 June 2023, Vatican City has its new official models of its coat of arms and flag.

My request is as follow:

1) change the colours of File:Coat of arms of the Vatican City.svg so that they match the ones of this version

2) change the colours and the details of File:Flag of the Vatican City.svg to make it faithful to this version. Do not add the pole upholding the flag.

3) Show me your work as a preview. Veverve (talk) 13:51, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Coat of arms edit

@Veverve 1) The two of them are so different in their appearance, the svg has tonings and surfaces with different shades of the same color while the pdf-image just has one flat color for each, also there are different parts in the two versions.
So I don't really know what to do, the don't look the same in many parts, is that not important? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:15, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: do what you think will work best so that your versions look as faithful as you can to the Vatican.va PDF models. Vatican.va PDF models are the rule, they are the ones to follow and to reproduce. Veverve (talk) 13:34, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
I mean that if you feel like it is needed to change more than the colours (shapes, remove or adding details, etc.) to be faithful to the Vatican.va models, feel free to do so. Veverve (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: how is it going? Veverve (talk) 14:03, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve It's going, I'm drawing a new version. I know that I don't put in so many hours in commons at this time but I will be back with a draft. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:34, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: no problem. Thanks for keeping me in the loop! Veverve (talk) 16:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve To my understand often COA and other patterns like that are similar on left-right side, mirrored. In this there are some differences I don't understand why and sometimes it's drawn in an inexact way. I don't know if this is on purpose or what so I have had to make some adaptions when drawing a new one, so it's not an exact copy.
Draft 1 COA. feedback thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
This is great, but it looks like some ink has spilled at two points. This spilled ink should be removed. I have coloured, as best as I can, those two spilled ink parts in purple, and I have indicated them with two arrows: https://imgur.com/a/GHhIMIh Veverve (talk) 17:18, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve It was mistakes from my side, good you spotted them.
I suggested we upload this as a new file as there must be some kind of interest of keeping the different version historically.
So I think this somehow also should be added in the name and even rename the old one?
    • Name of the file
    • Description (/language)
    • Captions/s (/language)
    • Category/ies at commons
    • Structured data/Items portrayed in this file, the Q#, to be able to upload it at commons, thanks.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en:
Veverve (talk) 15:41, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve Now you can find it here file:Coat of arms of Vatican City State - 2023 version.svg.
I will start with the flag now. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:49, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: could you release the cot of arms image under a copyleft license, since you are the one who made the SVG image, so that there is no copyright question? Veverve (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Please release the coat of arms under Template:PD-retouched-user. Please use the same license for the flag. Veverve (talk) 18:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve Changed. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:06, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

  Done --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:33, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Flag edit

@Goran tek-en: how is it going? Veverve (talk) 08:14, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

@Veverve Flag A draft-1. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:00, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en:
  • The overall tone/shading should be darker
  • The light grey colour should be grey (i.e. the light grey colour should be darker)
  • The tiara should be thinner and longer (reach higher)
  • The scarves should reach a few pixels higher
Veverve (talk) 15:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve Flag a draft-2. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: The proportions seem off to me, see this. Could you check the proportions?
Also, could you render the size of your PNG drafts so that they are the same as the model's? I have had to resize your draft in order to make the proportion comparison. Veverve (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve To me this seems like another level of accuracy than we had on the COA. Also as I said on that, that the drawing in the pdf is not that consistent or exact so my drawing is not an exact copy, just as the COA is not.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en:
  • On the side by side comparison (but not on the "on top of pdf" version), there is a line that shout not be there, I have indicated it and painted it in purple here.
  • Some shapes on the tiara should be more like rhombuses, see my purple marks that suggest what you should do here.
Veverve (talk) 01:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve For the shapes I couldn't see any purple on your image? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
There is, I just checked. If you use a 800% zoom in in Microsoft Paint, you can see them. They are in the parts in the middle of the tiare. You have to zoom in a lot. Veverve (talk) 17:27, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
@Veverve But if you look at the allegato_B.pdf in which the crown is bigger and more visible you can better judge it.
In this image I have the B pdf to the left and the crown from my flag to the right. From what I can see my crown is pretty similar. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Ok, I see it was simply a resolution problem, now that you have showed an image that is in higher resolution I see the details better.
You can upload it. Here are the details:

This 2023 flag is very similar to the flag used in the 1929 Fundamental Law of Vatican City State, see here, p. 35. Thus, it is in the public domain.
Veverve (talk) 02:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Oh, and do not forget to put it under Template:PD-retouched-user license. Veverve (talk) 04:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

@Veverve Now you can find it here, Flag of Vatican City State - 2023 version
  Done --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:18, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

@Veverve Do you want me to upload it two times but with different info? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:38, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
No. Why would I request this? Veverve (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Veverve Because I don't understand this part:

This 2023 flag is very similar to the flag used in the 1929 Fundamental Law of Vatican City State, see here, p. 35. Thus, it is in the public domain.
That is simply the second part of the description. Veverve (talk) 13:47, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Vatican City map edit

@Goran tek-en: Hello! I also have a Vatican-related request for you. In File:Vatican_City_map.svg there is bit incorrectly marked as part of Vatican City that is actually part of Italy. It is a narrow strip known as the w:Ricciolo d'Italia, which is hilighted in red here: File:Ricciolo_d'Italia_localization_map.svg

1) Please edit File:Vatican_City_map.svg to remove the yellow color from the aforementioned strip of land, replacing it with gray of the Italy layer below it, and adjust the purple dot-dash outline if it would look good.
2) Upload the new version of that svg file.
3) Render the svg as PNGs files in order to update these four versions as well: File:Vatican_City_map_EN.png, File:Vatican_City_map_DE.png, File:Vatican_City_map_IT.png, File:Vatican_City_map_FR.png

Thank you. –Vuccala (talk) 04:34, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

@Vuccala I will look at it in a week or so. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Here is a draft-1 for you to give me feedback on, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en Very good job, thank you! Just 1 tiny detail I think you could fix, which I marked here: https://files.catbox.moe/5pwg9t.png. The border should go ¾ of the way up that building before angling at 90° angle and joining what you drew.
I also noticed 1 additional thing you should add: mark where the border zigzags through the 'Aula Paolo VI' hall. Like so: https://files.catbox.moe/v9ksxw.png
If you need the reference map I used it's found here on OpenStreetMap. –Vuccala (talk) 18:18, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala The zizags was actually there already but below the (under) the building so I lifted it up. This means I lifted all of the vatican border up on top of everything so you have to check so this hasen't affected something else in a bad way. I tried to see and couldn't see anything but I don't have your knowledge about this.
Draft-2. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:32, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en Here is a gif that flashes between your Draft-2 and the original file https://files.catbox.moe/sk7q53.gif I've circled and numbered the issues. 1,2,3: these street names went missing from your draft. 4: the text "Porta San Pellegrino" in Draft-2 now goes below the purple dashed line, so please raise the text above it. Thank you. –Vuccala (talk) 22:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala This is so strange because when I view that png on drive it looks like this screenshot and there the 3 names are appearing. Lifted number 4 (not in the screenshot but in the original file). --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:20, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en Sorry, my mistake! I got it the wrong way around: the missing street names where not in your draft, but rather in Wikimedia's png version. This gif flashes between the svg and Wikimedia's autoconverted png version. Unless you know the reason why it misrenders and can fix it, I'd say you're done! When you upload the file, for the comment you can write "Added missing Ricciolo d'Italia border strip north of Saint Peter's Square". Thank you. –Vuccala (talk) 15:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala I uploaded a new version but there is still issues with the texts and it might be that they are textpath, because there is problems with that. If you want me to look in to it I can do that.
For the png's in different languages I don't understand. It's very hard to create language versions for this map in png. It would be much better to create svg files for each language and upload them and delete the png's. But then someone would need to add all the translations here like
Italian-New language
for all of them and everything. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:02, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala I have now removed all the texts paths so that text rendering issue (5 names) should be fixed now. For the png textversions see above.
@Goran tek-en Making an svg version for each language sounds like a good idea! It will have to be done manually, since the user who uploaded the translated PNG versions in 2013 seems not to have uploaded his svg files. I'll try to do it myself using the SVG Translate tool that Wikimedia provides, and then upload them. That is all, you may mark this as done. Thank you again. –Vuccala (talk) 21:46, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

  Done --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:11, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Removing white background edit

Could you remove the white background of File:Streeter's Four-Document Hypothesis.svg? Veverve (talk) 20:42, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

@Veverve New version uploaded   Done --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:38, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Vatican City map languages edit

Vuccala As we are going to use the base map (with out any texts) for several images I will start with checking that.

  • For my work it's easier if I have the texts here (so I can copy it all) like Italian-New language but for the English I will use the material you have translated.
  • In the file there are different types of text; normal, italic, bold and different sizes. Do you know why or you can see a pattern e.g. does bold always represent buildings and so on? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


@Goran tek-en: :

The file being discussed: File:Vatican_City_map.svg
The fonts used are as follows:
Large and bold:
  • Main tourist areas. Red & yellow in the legend (Vatican Museums, Apostolic Palace, St. Peter's Basilica/Square)
Bold:
  • Named buildings
Italics:
  • Roads (all kept in Italian)
  • Courtyards, Squares, Gardens, Fountains, (Parentheticals)
  • Places of lesser importance like Supermarket and Heliport
You can reference the old English version if you need help with the text placement: File:Vatican_City_map_EN.png. Reproducing the text size / position exactly isn't necessary. You can use your own aesthetic judgement to make it look pleasing.
Three final points:
  • I forgot to translate Radio Vaticana (Direzione) to Vatican Radio (Administration). It is on the left side, halfway down the image. Please make that replacement.
  • Please check that the last word of the road "Via del Seminario Etiopico" (northwest of the Railway station) isn't cut off. In the svg I uploaded it appears cut off.
  • If you think it would look good, you may add a compass rose to the map, such as File:Simple_compass_rose.svg or File:Gray compass rose.svg above the scale or below the legend. North is directly up.
–Vuccala (talk) 01:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Italian edit

Extended content
@Vuccala Just so you know, I am working on it but I don't put in extremely many hours every week at commons so it might take some time, just ping me if you think I'm to quiet. As you want us to keep the Italian street names I'm working on the Italian version first so I will get all the texts similar. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Vuccala

Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.

@Goran tek-en: Good job! There's just a few issues that need to be fixed::
Capitalization: in Italian, fewer proper nouns are capitalized than in Germanic languages. The following should not be capitalized:
  • Giardino Americano should be Giardino americano
  • Mura Leonine (both times) should be .
  • Giardino all'Inglese should be
Errors:
  • Via del Seminario should be Via del Seminario Etiopico (this is the one that wasn't rendering correctly on the original map)
  • At Radio Vaticana, Dirrezione should be Direzione.
  • Remove the duplicate Collegio Etiopica below Radio Vaticana.
  • Musei Vaticani should be one phrase (it means "Vatican Museums"). You made the "Vaticani" part in a smaller font than "Musei". The original map creator spaced it apart because it takes up a large area, feel free to put these two words closer together if you want.
  • Cortile Borgia you put at the wrong end of the black line. It should be at the top rather than the bottom. After you've done this, you can shift "Cortile della Sentinella" a little to the right.
  • Capella Sistina should be in a more prominent font (bold). This is the Sistine Chapel.
  • Congregazione per la Dottrina della Fede should be changed to Dicasterio per la Dottrina della Fede. (This is the one building that has actually changed its name since the file was originally created).
  • Switch the positions of Sagrestia and Palazzo della Canonica (Tesoro).
–Vuccala (talk) 02:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Vuccala
  • The png's I show as drafts are not exactly how it will look at commons. We can only see the final (commons) rendering of the svg once it's uploaded.
  • Some of the things you noted is depending on which file at commons you look at but I changed according to your notes. I have also removed the direction lines, just forgot to remove them in the other draft's.
  • The image sizes is different on the files here at commons. Some svg are 512*395 pixels, the png's for languages are 2,888*2,230 pixels and the one I'm working on is 1386*1070 pixels. To me the size I work in is working well, you can view all of the content in 100% on many screens and still it's possible to read the texts. We can make it bigger (larger texts) but then more viewers will not be able to view it all in 100% so I think this size is good.
  • Draft IT 2. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:15, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Well done. I doublechecked each name carefully again and only spotted 3 small mistakes:
  • Spelling mistakes:
  • Turns out it's actually "Dicastero", not Dicasterio. (southeast corner)
  • "Cappella Sistina", not Capella Sistina.
  • Make Basilica di San Pietro the same font + size as Palazzo Apostolico, since it's of high importance.
Every else, looks and sounds good to me –Vuccala (talk) 03:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Draft IT-3.
  • Could you just give the overall map a quick check (besides the latest changes) as I had to move all the texts, sorry for that.
  • If this now is fine, how are you thinking about that there will be PNG versions as well as those new SVG. It will not be easy for people to know which to use etc.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:35, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en:
1. The position of all your tags is correct. I did one last check against OpenStreetMap and found 4 final changes to make:
  • Change Centro Televisivo to Vatican Media (the name was changed in 2017)
  • Change Via Del Governato to Via del Governatorato (it was just spelled wrong)
  • Remove Residenza del Santo Padre (it stopped being the pope's residence in 2013)
  • At the southeast-most corner is a church symbol, but the name of the church is missing. Please write Chiesa di San Pietro in Borgo below the church symbol.
2. Unless you have a different idea, I'd say you can render it as a PNG and upload it as the new version of File:Vatican_City_map_IT.png. Then after the English translation is added, you can render it as a PNG and upload it to File:Vatican_City_map_EN.png, and then upload the multi-language SVG to File:Vatican_City_map.svg –Vuccala (talk) 01:43, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Draft IT-4.
  • It is generally preferred to upload SVG files as they are superior to PNG in many ways. Also there are several PNG's automatically created when a SVG is uploaded so to me it's a waste (or even bad) not to upload the SVG. That's why I discuss what to do with them?
  • The SVG I'm working in will not be a multi-language, I will have separate SVG files for each language.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en:
  • This draft is perfect! So since we won't be doing the multilanguage-svg thing, you can now upload it to File:Vatican_City_map.svg. And if it doesn't have any of the rendering errors that the previous version had (hence why they needed to make those png versions) then you or I can replace the Wikipedia transclusions of File:Vatican_City_map_IT.png (under "File usage on other wikis") to link to this svg instead. Then the description on the Italian PNG file can be updated to remove the notice that says "SVG version available, but please use PNG files in articles".
Does that answer everything, for the time being? –Vuccala (talk) 14:14, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala There is also one file Vatican_City_map_IT.svg which has a redirect on it so I can't access it directly, but would it not be better to upload it over that one and remove the redirect on it and move that to File:Vatican_City_map.svg. I don't know how to perform that but maybe you do. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:43, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: You're right, File:Vatican_City_map_IT.svg is an even better file name. You should upload it there. You can use this link (in which I modified the URL's query string to make it easier for you). After you do that I'll move all the transclusions to your new .svg then put a redirect on the outdated file. –Vuccala (talk) 17:34, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Very good, glad you now this kind of stuff. Could you provide me with a link so I can view the media page of this file, I want to make sure the info on it is accurate for this upload and what else I have to add, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:00, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking for. The link you yourself provided 3 messages ago already has the no-redirect query string in it, and there's nothing but a redirect on that file. If what you're asking for is what should be in the information template, I'd say:
Extended content 
{{Information
|description =
{{it|1=Mappa della {{Wi|Città del Vaticano}} dall'agosto 2023.}}
{{en|1=Map of {{W|Vatican City}} as of August 2023.}}
{{de|1=Karte der {{Wd|Vatikanstadt}} Ab August 2023.}}
{{ja|1={{W日|バチカン}}の地図、2023年8月現在}}
|source      =[[:File:Vatican City map.svg]]
|date        =2023-08-26
|author      ={{U|Goran tek-en}}
|permission  ={{ODbL OpenStreetMap}}
|other versions = <!--fill in later when the English/etc. version is made-->
}}
[[Category:Maps of Vatican City]]

–Vuccala (talk) 21:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

@Vuccala Your provided link didn't allow me to upload it with the same name. If we do that it will have to be as a new version and then we have to acces the page of the file and use New version link.
Is there no way to remove the redirect code on that file? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:47, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Is this what you wanted done? File:Vatican_City_map_IT.svg –Vuccala (talk) 19:52, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Vuccala, yes now we have it, thanks. The file is now uploaded to Vatican City map IT and on the IT PNG I have put a SVG available as the texts renders well for what I can see but please check.
So if this is fine I will start with the EN version, but I should keep strett names in IT? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: To finish up here, I checked your SVG and the PNG Wikimedia creates from it a final time and everything looks good and is correct. I went ahead and updated the links on all the Wikipedias that linked to the Italian PNG to use your SVG instead. (In cases where article editing was locked, I requested the change in the discussion pages).   Done –Vuccala (talk) 16:16, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

English edit

Vuccala Draft EN-1. The red texts are missing translations in the PNG file. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:14, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: These are the English translations:
Cortile Borgia Borgia Courtyard
Cortile del Pappagallo Courtyard of the Parrots
Campo Santa Teutonico Teutonic Cemetary
Chiesa di San Pietro in Borgo Church of St. Peter in Borgo
L'Osservatore Romano The Roman Observer
And by the way, for future reference, to remove a Redirect from an uploaded file (like I did earlier), all you have to do is click "Edit" on the file's page, and delete the line that says "#REDIRECT [[File:filename]]". –Vuccala (talk) 16:36, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Draft EN-2. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Errors to fix:
  • "Cortile della Sentinella" should be "Courtyard of the Sentinel"
  • "Pinacotheca" should be "Art Gallery"
  • "Drugstore" should be "Pharmacy"
  • "Pontifical Academy of Scienes": "Pontifical Academy of Sciences"
  • "Etiopian College" should be: "Pontifical Ethiopian College"
  • "Piaza della Stazione Ferroviaria": you forgot to translate to: "Railway Station Square"
  • "Residence of the Arch-Priest" should be "Residence of the Archpriest"
  • "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" should be "Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith"
  • "Television center" should be "Vatican Media"
  • See if you can make "Borgia Courtyard" not be hyphenated
For sake of consistency and brevity...
  • "Saint Martha's Square" should be "St. Martha's Square"
  • "Palace of Saint Charles" should ve "Palace of St. Charles"
  • "Church of Saint Stephen of the Abyssinians" should be "Church of St. Stephen of the Abyssinians"
  • "Chapel of Santa Maria Regina della Famiglia" should be "Church of St. Mary Queen of the Family"
  • "Church of Saint Pelligrino" should be "Church of St. Peregrin"
  • "Parish Church Saint Anne of the Palafrenieri" should be "Church of St. Anne of the Pontifical Grooms"
  • "Saint Peter Memorial" should be "St. Peter Memorial"
  • "Domus Sanctæ Marthæ" should be "St. Martha's House"
–Vuccala (talk) 23:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Draft EN-3, and now I will be away for a week or so. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Well done, I could only find a single thing to fix:
  • the final letter is missing in: "St. Peter Memorial"
After you fix that, you can upload it as File:Vatican_City_map_EN.svg. Then I'll update all the English Wikipedias' that use the old file to point to your new file. And then (since I don't know much German or French) I think we're done, yes? –Vuccala (talk) 22:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
@Vuccala Now you can find it here Vatican City map EN.
Would it not be better if you could find someone with the lacking languages because I can do the same work with them, I actually believed we would. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Thank you. I have gone through all the Wikipedias and updated their links to use your new file. I have also made a post in Graphics Lab to seek a French and German speaking volunteer here: Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#French_and_German_speaker_needed_to_check_translation_of_Vatican_City_Map --–Vuccala (talk) 03:46, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

French edit

File:Vatican_City_map_FR.png Awaiting volunteer...

German edit

File:Vatican_City_map_DE.png Awaiting volunteer...

Request - Diagram legends from French to English translation edit

Hi @Goran tek-en: Long time. I wonder if you update these two images with the English legends. They are currently in French. The diagrams are

You can see it is some kind of consumption of potatoes or something I don't know. I'll can give you a list of English legends sometime today, if your about. Scope creep (talk) 09:40, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

@Scope creep I can do that, just to be sure: you want English versions of those two files, New uploads? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Goran, is it possible to keep the original files, and use the Translate tool to add the English labels, or are the originals not suitable for that? Mathglot (talk) 00:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
@Mathglot, @Scope creep I have never used the tool but it's a svg so it seems as it should work.
So I will mark this as   Done but if you need me later on just ping me, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:25, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
I think something has to be done to enable the svg for label translation, but I'm not sure. I'll go find a previous example where I did this with someone's help, and find out. Mathglot (talk) 18:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
@Mathglot As mentioned before I have never used it and I'm not sure that you need me for using it. Read about it here. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:01, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 
Share of the black market in the trade of certain foodstuffs in France during the Second World War
User:TillmanR, you helped me once before with label translation on an svg; that discussion is here. Can you explain to Goran what it is you have to do to enable label translation via the tool? This is regarding the two svg's listed at the top of this discussion. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:06, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Scope creep, okay, I added the labels for the first one, but it's not showing up in the image to the right, not sure why not. There's a discussion at Help talk:SVG about it. Once we figure out the accessibility issue, maybe you'd like to try your hand at translating the labels for the other one? Mathglot (talk) 08:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Tracked in Phabricator
Task T337199
Update: User:Glrx has given a detailed response at Help talk:SVG. Apparently, there is a known mediawiki bug that interferes with the display of English translations of French-labeled images. Glrx has upped the priority on task TT337199 to "High", so hopefully that will help resolve this. Meanwhile, a previous fr ⟶ en image translation was resolved through a workaround, so if need be, we can resort to that. Mathglot (talk) 19:20, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

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Excuses edit

Sorry for the misunderstanding earlier, didn’t knew you were the only one authorised to add sources in the Moorish banner Nourerrahmane (talk) 16:42, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@Nourerrahmane It's not easy at all to understand all the different things and purposes here at commons, I don't think any of us knows everything, the most important is that we learn as time goes and we respect each others. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:34, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Naturally, also i like your work, and since you're a graphic worker, i would love to ask you if you are fine with working on this emblem of the Regency of Algiers, it has a lot of mistakes and i'm sure that your contribution will make it better File:Coat of arms of the Regency of Algiers.png Nourerrahmane (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
@Nourerrahmane I can do that but then I will create a version as a svg.
But first there are some things I don't understand with File:Coat of arms of the Regency of Algiers.png.
I don't understand French or Arabic but I have looked at the links of your sources and at none I can see the picture you have uploaded.
The Source is for the creator/uploader to state which source that is used to be able to create/copy or other wise for the uploaded image which I can't see here.
For me (with my language limitations) all you have put in Source should be in Description if there at all, to me this is like reference material on a wikipedia page and commons is not wikipedia or an encyclopedia. The image can be inserted in a wikipedia page with this topic and there the reference material fits well.
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So at this stage I can't see from where or how you have obtained this png file, if it's from a free source or not so to my understanding it could be deleted from commons. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:16, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en It was actually taken from this website [1]https://histoires-et-tradions-d-algerie.blogspot.com/2021/12/lhistoire-de-lalgerie-des-origines-nos.html, which a faithful recreation of what the images in the links of the sources show and the descriptions provided in written sources. the original Creator didn't put restrictions or copyright in his website about this Coat of Arms. so this is public domaine Nourerrahmane (talk) 12:30, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
[2]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k58281506
[3]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k667326
[4]https://archive.org/details/Casbah.d_Alger/page/n75/mode/2up?view=theater
You can just scroll down to see them, as you can see they are public domaine since the sources go back the 19th century, the creator in his website did a faithful reproduction of them based on the the 3 written source in commons (he has them in his website), so wether actually he has copyright in his blog or not, it's public domaine. Nourerrahmane (talk) 12:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
@Nourerrahmane For 2 and 3, I can only see one page (can't scroll down) and it's not on that page.
For 1 there are so many images you would have to link directly to the image you used.
4 is not your source either.
If someone creates a reproduction based on material in the public domain, that specific reproduction can still have a copyright on it.
So I still can't see or understand your source, sorry if you think I'm to picky on this but it's very important with sources. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en
- For 1: it's a long page, you will find the arms slowy below the middle when you scroll down, in a title called "Drapeaux" mans flags in french
- For 2 and 3: the arms are in the front page in the bottom, you can't miss them
- For 4: didn't quite understand what "not my source" means, it's acutally an arabic scholarly source about the ancient buildings in Algeria
- Here a bigger version of it in this website: https://www.hubert-herald.nl/Algeria.htm (you scroll down you'll find it it's not long)
Sure but the Website i took the Armas from doesn't have any copyright restricitons in it. Nourerrahmane (talk) 13:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
@Nourerrahmane
1 You can't expect people to search thru a long page like that, link directly to the correct image.
2 3 Those are of so poor quality they can't have been used to create the uploaded image.
4 Just it's not your source.
Sorry but it seems we misunderstand each other, just show your exact source.
I will not work on this if I can't see and confirm your source because if it turns out not to be free, all the work I will do on the svg file might be for nothing, as also it can be deleted because of a non free source. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
The source is shown, if you can't scroll then you won't be able to see the arms nor check if it is copyrighted or not, although this is a blog.
Thank you anyways Nourerrahmane (talk) 14:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Western Sahara maps edit

Hello @Goran tek-en, I have seen your maps on Western Sahara (this and this ones to put some examples) and I really loved them! I wonder if you could make a map based on this style for the divisions of the Spanish Sahara displaying Saguia el-Hamra, Río de Oro (and another one with Cape Juby), another one for the Moroccan invasion of Western Sahara and another one for the MINURSO bases. Another suggestion could also be the map of the 1974 Spanish census (click me). More maps can also be found here, mainly in Spanish which I'd be more than glad to help translate! I am currently improving articles on Western Sahara and I think that the design of your maps and it being more or less consistently used for the historic maps would be great! Thanks in advance! Tidjani Saleh (talk) 13:12, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

@Tidjani Saleh I'm happy you find my graphic work useful, thanks.
Yes, I can help you but remember that I have zero knowledge of the topics themselves so I'm depending on your knowledge and that you will work with me all the way.
You are talking about several different maps and already there I get a bit confused, please be very specific and don't give more sources/option than I need.
  • So if we can work on one map at the time and just give me info about that. Also try to explain what you want the map to depict and show the viewer, and we will work from there.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
@Tidjani Saleh Did you want us to work on those maps? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:34, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Azad Hind tiger edit

Hello @Goran tek-en:

You have done great work on File:Interpreted Azad Hind Gov. emblem.svg. But the tiger image used for reference is blurry and have lot of noise. government and government was led by , who was also responsible for raising the en:Indian Legion of Nazi Germany.

The Indian Legion also beared a springing tiger as it's symbol. If you could then please also add another image file of the tiger used by the German army legion. The new vectorised SVG format image could be used instead of the black and white one.

Here are some of the images -

Reference links -

Thank you in advance and will be waiting for your reply.

Regards - Soap Boy 1 (talk) 08:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

@Soap Boy 1 Yes the source for File:Interpreted Azad Hind Gov. emblem.svg was really bad so there is a lot of guess work in it.
--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:06, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
@Soap Boy 1 I need you response if you want me to do something. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:14, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
  Stale

--please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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