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TUSC token d91ad562a2ec917955d6510fb2e7bdc6Edit

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

What was the perceived problem?Edit

Hi, what was your thinking here initially? We expect to be using that and the others I organized a lot, so I need some feedback. Email works. Right now I'm mostly hanging at Wikibooks so answer there (here) if you would. Thanks // FrankB 04:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

@Fabartus: Oh, forgot to revert the notification from your page. It is unusual for someone with sixteen edits to start creating templates, linking them to categories, and leave them sitting there empty with external urls, where the same urls have been removed from the pages at enWB. I was starting the process of clearning up, and then decided to leave it and watch for any development.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:55, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Why removed duplicate template?Edit

File:Guatemala mone.jpg File:Guatemala banknote.jpg

Hello, I'm just wondering why you removed the duplicate template when the images are exactly the same. The only difference was that the rotatebot got to one and not the other. However, you'll note that they are still exactly the same. If you could please remove one, that would be good. Thank you, The Haz talk 13:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Was waiting for things to be sorted.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:30, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks, The Haz talk 12:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

redundant filesEdit

We have obvious redundancy between File:Jupiter.Aurora.HST.UV.jpg, File:Satellite Footprints Seen in Jupiter Aurora.jpg, and File:Hubble Jupiter Aurora (NASA) (420376085).jpg. Now my suggestion is to delete the latter two, because as I said, they are obviously upscaled by a factor of 4. Obvious squares of 4*4 pixels show that. So the resolution of the first mentioned file is actually higher than that of the other two. (2842×1617 pixels after crop, divided by 4 equals 710.5×404,25, which is lower than 752×417.) The first mentioned is also the original file NASA released here:, where they give it out as "The best resolution available". The encoding we have here is encoded at -quality 98 with no chroma subsampling. So there is little possibility of significant quality loss. File:Hubble Jupiter Aurora (NASA) (420376085).jpg has the same content and resolution as File:Satellite Footprints Seen in Jupiter Aurora.jpg when we strip captions and borders - which I believe we want to do because we don't want hardcoded borders in the file and for the caption information we have metadata in file descriptions and image annotations. I already moved that information to the file description of the first mentioned file. Can you follow that? What do you think?--Scanmap (talk) 14:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

@Scanmap: Once we start going through opinions and hypothesis we move out of the zone of speedy to normal, such that the files just need to go through a normal deletion process, rather than a speedy deletion process. It should be a fairly simple deletion request and I would invite you to take the above reasoning to a DR. As a note, the obvious is not always obvious, so as you have seen above it is the conversation that is important. Also to note that the {{duplicate}} has ha sthe ability carry commentary, so it is always worth adding commentary if you have opinion to add.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:38, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

File:LotharRichardII10thcentury.JPG @enwikiEdit

Can you please tell me what comes after "centur[y]"? The log doesn't display the full description. I need it for File:LotharRichardII10thcentury.JPG. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 11:32, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

From enWP, the information template is

== Summary ==



[[Richard II of Normandy]] (right), [[Lothair of France]] (left) and the abbot of [[Mont Saint Michel]] (middle),
cartulary of Mont-Saint-Michel
12th century

Bibliothèque Municipale, Avranches

== Licensing ==


@Michaeldsuarez: — billinghurst sDrewth 11:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 11:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

File:A German civilian looks at a large poster portrait of Stalin on the Unter-den-Linden in Berlin, 3 June 1945. BU8572.jpgEdit

Hi Billinghurst. Could you please fix the parameter errors caused by your edit? --Leyo 18:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Pity that you were unable to see yourself able to do it yourself.  — billinghurst sDrewth 20:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
This is not the point. I've fixed thousands of images in Category:Pages using Information template with incorrect parameter during the past couple of months. --Leyo 20:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
… and thanks for what you do in that space. At the same time, I would suggest that tracking additional parameters is pointless. The use of that template with those unattached parameters were doing zero harm, and causing zero problems.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
It's the other way round: All parameter names except the ones defines are tracked. I've fixed many spelling errors in parameter names, things such as missing “=” or broken syntax and a lot of (old) vandalism. --Leyo 21:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
And that wasn't my point. My point was in the tracking superfluous parameters. The design and workings of templates is that superfluous parameters are ignored, noting the words by design. So now you are telling me that something that should be managed by design, is now a manual and purposeful requirement, that is a little unusual.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Here is another example why such maintenance categories are useful. --Leyo 14:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

flag of russia (your "cite the files" request")Edit

am confused when i put a edit request on english wikipedia they said i have to go HERE (commons) but there are two files,

and as i said i made a request there but they told me to go here so telling me to go back (english wikipedia)and do my request there is unhelpfull i also made a rfc on file's commons talkpage and on the Commons Administrators noticeboard 20:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

First step is to get a file with the colours that you believe are correct, so upload a separate copy to a differently named file, and on the file quote your sources for the colours used. Your file will be at Commons. Using this file at your wiki of interest is a different process and will need your debating skills in that discussion, though at least it is uploaded and available.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:02, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

they almoust certanly wont use a separate file as the one i want to change is one of "100 most-used files on the English Wikipedia" so i was rather asking how and where to do that 21:11, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Until you have a separate image you cannot mount the argument, getting an overwrite of the file will not happen. Each wiki is able to choose which version of the file they wish to use. Start with your local wiki, and then the community can validate or discuss onwards.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
but other users overwrite flag or other national symbols many times it very common that they do that! just see file history of many flag or national symbol files, they overwritten the flag of russia file and i wanted to restore the original 21:40, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
I am presuming that you are the two accounts listed there on that history. The initial file version is the same colour as the last version, and the interim attempts to change the colour of the file are wrong as per Commons:Overwriting existing files and those interim edits were properly reverted. This is why you need to have a separate file, with separate history. Deal with what we have and the means to progress, don't tell me about other behaviours. As I have said, upload your version of the file to a new file name. Are you listening yet?  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:58, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


Hi again,

In trying to re-balance the various VIAF data-gathering schemes across wiki-world, I just noticed you made a well-intentioned change to Commons' MediaWiki:VIAFDataImporter.js that didn't really solve anything (SSL is needed for certain routines @

Please undo the change (... or manually update the line's syntax while you're at it by matching the following )

		return '"' + encodeURIComponent(query) + '"&stylesheet=/viaf/xsl/results.xsl&sortKeys=holdingscount&maximumRecords=100';

The lines you really want to force SLL (https) on to stop the split security bangs/errors when running the Auth Control gadget, should be this one (exactly!)

			//using autosuggest (clumsy, but we can use JSONP)
			$.getJSON("" + encodeURIComponent($('#viaf_query_input').val()) + "&callback=?", function (data) {

Finally, do a string/text search in the script for <div/>

( should be a proper div closing-tag; </div> )

... then search again for margin-bottm and add the missing letter ' o ' back in margin-bottom .

My gut tells me the local Commons-based version of the gadget/script could get away with just some minor refinements but Inductiveload (or ?) really needs to address/refine whichever version of the gadget we could benefit from more over on en.WS. Prost. -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:20, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


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--Jarekt (talk) 13:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


You might be interested in this discussion. --Jarekt (talk) 12:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

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