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unnecessary caategories edit

 

I would avoid adding yyyy in rail transport categories where is no specific rail element in the picture. Station buildings picture without railway elements such as rail, platforms or trains, should only have local year categories. It is consistent with adding specific year categories only when needed, such as in File:Station Sloterdijk 2020 09.jpg(one for buses and a local one, but not rail).Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, @Smiley.toerist!
I can understand why you've removed the category year in rail transport from pictures where no specific parts of rail transport are visible. In the future, I will refrain from doing that. Nevertheless, there is also a category called Train stations in Germany photographed in 2020, a category that's not existing for the Netherlands. That's why I added the category year in rail transport, which is the upper category of Train stations in land photographed in year. I think this category would be suitable photographs of station buildings etc. Best regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

day category does not replace regional year category edit

I reversed File:IJsselstein tramhalte Binnenstad 2021 4.jpg and other '2021 in Utrecht (province)' deletions.Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:04, 19 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Smiley.toerist: Yes, I know that a day category doesn't replace a regional year category but the subcategory of a regional year category does. I removed the category 2021 in Utrecht (province) because its subcategory 2021 in tram transport in Utrecht (province) is already used. Kind regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 14:52, 21 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Kategorien edit

Hallo! Ich habe deine Änderungen im Stil von Revision of 704419551 gesehen. Danke! Wenn ich das sagen darf: Du machst dir das Leben zu schwer. Schau mal in den Benutereinstellungen nach dem Tool Cat-a-lot und aktiviere es. Damit kann man solche Änderungen in wenigen Sekunden machen. --XRay 💬 05:19, 11 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hallo XRay! Das ist ja äußerst freundlich! Vielen Dank für den Hinweis! Bisher wusste ich davon noch gar nichts, aber ich habe das Tool jetzt aktiviert und hoffe, es bald benutzen zu können. Herzlichen Dank nochmals! Viele Grüße -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 20:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Extra categories for file Amsteltram bridge over N201 in progress.jpg edit

Hi Fantaglobe11, I saw you added extra categories for this file. Did I do anything wrong here? I would have thought that just the cat Tramline 25 in Amsterdam (from 2020) would be sufficient. Always eager to learn.;) Regards, MartinD (talk) 08:38, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hey @MartinD! No, you didn't do anything wrong. I just thought that it would be fine to add some categories, because they seemed suitable to me. For example, your picture also showed a (future) bridge, that's still under construction. Therefore, I added categories like Construction sites in North Holland. Best regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 19:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! The tram line is still under construction, I expect to take a photo every now and then. I'll restrict muself to the Tramline 25 cat, and leave te rest to you. ;) Cheers! MartinD (talk) 20:04, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oh yes! I visited Uithoorn during the "Dag van de Bouw 2022" and also took some photos. Anyway, I would be very glad to see the further development of the construction works in your photos. I hope to stay tuned. Have a nice week -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

File:20220525.Amsterdam.Radwege.-025.jpg edit

Danke für Deine Hilfe - echt Klasse!@ Bybbisch94 (talk) 00:38, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hallo Bybbisch94, sehr gerne! Ich helfe, wo ich kann. Schönen Abend und viele Grüße -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 18:10, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Local tram year categories edit

I agree that Uithoorn is not Amsterdam, but neither is Amstelveen or Diemen where Amsterdam trams also run. For the Hague and Utrecht I use larger areas such as Haaglanden (includes Zoetermeer, Delft, Rijswijk, Leidschendam-Voorburg) or Utrecht province. Rotterdam also have trams outside the city limits. As a rule I think it is more practical to incorporate the small extentions outside the city limits. Uithoorn is however quite far outside the city limits. But nl:Metropoolregio Amsterdam is quite large and confusing.Smiley.toerist (talk) 00:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

I think Smiley.toerist is correct here. The distance between Amsterdam and Uithoorn is, at any rate in the perception of inhabitants of Amsterdam, considerable. Uithoorn is even outside the "Ring" (nl:Rijksweg 10), a psychological border a true-blooded Amsterdammer will not cross except in dire emergencies. Disclosure: I live in Uithoorn.;) Kind regards, MartinD (talk) 13:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hello Smiley.toerist and MartinD! I also tried to remove the pictures from Amstelveen or Diemen from the category:2022 in tram transport in Amsterdam. At least, I think there was one from Amstelveen that I removed. Categories ending in "Haaglanden" or "Utrecht (province)" are a proper solution. I understand that those small extensions are quite annoying. Nevertheless, two municipalities as Amsterdam and Uithoorn or Rotterdam and Schiedam stay two municipalities. That's at least what I think. As a solution for Amsterdam, the nl:Vervoerregio Amsterdam could be another option. It's a bit smaller than the Metropoolregio, after all. Best regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi Fantaglobe11, thank you! Yes, Uithoorn is indeed a separate municipality - and we intend to stay a separate municipality.;)
Hi MartinD! That is great and I hope you will for a long time. For this reason, I tried to separate the tram pictures in Amsterdam from those ones taken in Uithoorn, Amstelveen etc. Best regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 13:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Kind regards, MartinD (talk) 09:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

New file name format edit

Hi Fantaglobe, why would you want to do that? I think the categories they are in show harmonious filenames. I adapted the naming of my images sometimes to the existing conventions in the categories. Like Bahnhof Bedburg-Hau. For the categories it seems not needed to rename anything. And there are no errors that need to be fixed. What is your purpose with this? Especially : why start with the date tag suddenly and not put the date tag after the topic name? Is there any database logic behind that? Or is it just some kind of vanity so that they will always be the first pics on the category page? I think that can be seen as unfair naming in some or most of the cases. I think the topic should be first part of the naming appearing under the miniatures. The production date is usually secondary to that and often less relevant to most other users. If they are all in a single cat named like 'Station X by Fantaglobe' it seems completely ok, but they will often be in a some extra cats too. Peli (talk) 11:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi Pelikana! In general, I understand the various points you're making. However, I want to react to all of your questions and statements and explain you my point of view:
  • I adapted the naming of my images sometimes to the existing conventions in the categories. Like Bahnhof Bedburg-Hau. I simply try to find a meaningful and logical file name for every category. Mainly, I adapt the file's names to a country's language, so it fits better with the photographed object. Furthermore, there often isn't a certain structure of file names in different categories. That's why, I use my "own" structure.
  • Why start with the date tag suddenly and not put the date tag after the topic name? Personally, it's more useful to get a direct overview of the pictures in a category. As you can see, I mostly take photographs of buildings and infrastructure. For me, it's easier to find a current picture in a category in this way.
  • Is there any database logic behind that? I either don't get your question right or don't have a database logic behind it. Could you please specify your question?
  • Or is it just some kind of vanity so that they will always be the first pics on the category page? No. I didn't even think about that. Now, I have to say that I feel kind of embarrassed, because you think that it could be vanity. For sure, that's not what I wanted it to be.
  • I think that can be seen as unfair naming in some or most of the cases. I wouldn't say, that it is unfair. You don't have stop scrolling through a categories after two rows or whatever. If you really want to search for a good or useful picture, you will sift through the entire category.
  • The production date is usually secondary to that and often less relevant to most other users. That depends on someone's point of view. As I explained in the third paragraph, I think it's important to segregate the pictures of a categories by their dates.
Finally, I didn't choose criterion 1 for nothing. All in all, it was an "original uploader’s request". I didn't worsen the name's. That's at least what I think. Have a nice evening and very kind regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 18:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi Fantaglobe. Sorry if your workflow was possibly disrupted due to my questions here. I did not mean to disturb in such a way. Thanks for your response.
About database logic: Now in broader cats (like cat: all your images) two images of Bahnhof x, don't automatically appear on the same line, next to each other, since one might be taken years before the other one. In database logic you don't name two very similar images of the same series as "Horse and tree" and the other as "Tree and horse", because they will be very far apart alphabetically. You just stick to one name and add a serial number.
The approach of starting with numbers vaguely reminded me of file name experiments by user FH who clearly was testing ways to get his images to the top always and at any cost, like using numbers and starting with the letter A. (But it is much more the excessive naming combined with undue overcategorizing he did, that makes me sick looking at them.) I was kind of worried that by his example file naming would become a sort of competition for the number-one place in any cat. And that from now on we could only use dots, exclamation marks and empty spaces, to get a file on top above file names starting with numbers. Whereas letters offer much more playroom to give files a spot in the category.
I look at this at the level of making nice and coherent categories. I checked cat Bahnhof Bedburg-Hau which now starts with a train on a railroad, not with the building. Nothing to really worry about. I admit that I play with this 'order of appearance' sometimes, but only very carefully looking at one cat at a time. And I am aware that it can change with any new upload into that category and that it will not be carved in stone. And that it can be overriden by using some hidden code.
Just my two pence. Best Regards Peli (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi Pelikana! No way – you didn't interrupted my workflow at all. I think your matter is worth spending some time on thinking about it and answering it. So, there's no need to worry.
Oh, I see! Now, I understand your thoughts about the database logic. Yes, that's a good point! As far as I can see, my own category would be the only category that's affected by this problem. Or am I wrong?
Hopefully not! It would be horrible, if everyone tried to put his pictures in the first place. But, I hope that you'd agree that dates are a better solution than symbol like an exclamation mark or something else. I still believe it is.
Of course, I already met the pictures of FH. Until now, the long file names were the only strange thing I noted. However, I know what you mean. There's a certain trend to be seen.
Okay, that's a nice target you've set yourself. I think every category is different, so it would be very difficult for me to adapt to each one. Also, some or many categories don't have a sensible name structure. Therefore, giving my images a meaningful file name is more important to me. You're also right that some categories have a hidden sorting structure. For example, the user Smiley.toerist likes sorting categories by the creation date of its pictures. Maybe, this has also been an inspiration for me to rename my files. Thanks for the friendly and constructive talk! Kind regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 17:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Swimming pool edit

 
Swimming pool?

Doesn't really look like a swimming pool, does it? The building Sport Centre 't Wooldrik in Borne houses one swimming pool and two large halls, used for volleyball, basketball, (indoor) football and chess.Vysotsky (talk) 22:38, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

I will make a new category 't Wooldrik (Borne) in which I will incorporate all relevant categories. Vysotsky (talk) 22:52, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi,Vysotsky! I agree, that the swimming pool cannot be seen on the picture Borne19.JPG. However, I am not the person, who added this category. So, why did you add this category, although the pool can't be seen on the photograph?
Also, I wanted to explain you within my edit summary that the category Swimming pools in Overijssel is a subcategory of the category Sports venues in the Netherlands, i. e. that the first one's subordinate to the second one. Still, your new category 't Wooldrik (Borne) also includes both categories. Let me give an example to you to get this right: If you upload a picture of Borne train station, you could add it to the categories Train stations, Railway stations in Europe, Train stations in the Netherlands, Train stations in Overijssel and finally Station Borne. Personally, I think that this behaviour would lead to a chaotic image database, don't you think? Kind regards, -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I beg to differ. The problem is that sports venue 't Wooldrik both houses a swimming pool and two halls, used for a variety of sports: handball, badminton, volleyball, basketball etc. In order to express this last usage, I added category:Sports venues in the Netherlands. That is really different from your example ("down the category tree") whereas my example is trying to express the existence of two level branches. But OK, I'll change Category:Sports venues in the Netherlands to Category:Sports parks in the Netherlands‎ - as 't Wooldrik also harbours several outside tennis lawns. Vysotsky (talk) 21:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello,Vysotsky. Now, I get the problem you're confronting. That's also quite a mandatory consequence of our hierarchical category system. Isn't there a category like "Sports hall in ...", is there? Nevertheless, thank you for your understanding and willingness to compromise. Have a nice evening and kind regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 18:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Rail vehicle doors by type edit

Please do not remove the 'Rail vehicle doors by type' categories from train type categories. I am buzy classifying the train door types. Once a train type is identified as having a type of door, then the whole category can be put under the door type category. Often the door type is not visible with closed doors, so it is much easier to determine the door type used for this train material with an picture of an open door. Door types is an integral part of the train type specification. All trains have doors. I could have created categories Trains with x type doors but this would confusing. Otherwise I would have to massively add a door type to individual files. I have reverted the changes. This can cost me a massive amount of work, if I have to refind all the train type categories with a type of door.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:33, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Smiley.toerist: But this categorization doesn't make any sense... I'm sorry. Would you really want to put a train into like 50 categories, because all these components are included? I think this would be massively confusing. The train category often doesn't show the details, like a door, at all; it shows the train as a whole. Your statement that it would be "a massiv amount of work" just sounds strange to me, because you obviously want to save work for yourself. I really have to say that working on Commons mostly means work. Moreover, you have to be consequent: Do not double-categorize images like: File:'S-Hertogenbosch Station, Netherlands, Jan. 2007 (352711376).jpg. I apologize in advance for my strict tone, but I was kinda surprised by your message, that was followed by your reverts without expecting my answer. Have a nice evening though and kindest regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 16:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sortierung bei den Dekaden im Jahrhundert in Hoeksche Waard edit

Hi Fantaglobe11, du hast bei den Dekaden in Hoeksche Waard das Jahrzehnt (ohne Jahrhundert) als Sortierkriterium im Jahrhundert angegeben "...21st century|00]" statt bisher "...21st century| 2000]". Das ist eher ungewöhnlich. Normalerweise wird die 2. Form verwendet und ich würde die 2. Form auf bevorzugen. Ich finde, es bringt auch keine zusätzliche Übersichtlichkeit. Wenn ich z.B. an das 20. Jahrhundert denke dann hab ich bei deiner Form 10 "Überschriften" mit jeweils einem Unterpunkt. Kannst du dir vorstellen, das wieder auf die "alte" Form umzustellen? Gruß Bardenoki (talk) 17:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Bardenoki! Klar, das kann ich gerne wieder anpassen. Wenn du mir das so schilderst, ergibt das schon Sinn. Ich erledige das direkt. Danke für den Einwand! Deine andere Perspektive hat mir weitergeholfen. Ich wünsche dir einen schönen Abend. Viele Grüße -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 18:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Monuments and memorials edit

Hi Fanta, ik verbaas me een beetje over de actie van het verwijderen van de Categorie:Memorials in ... Volgens mij kan dat best een geldige subcategorie zijn. Maar als het dan wordt Monuments and memorials in ... moeten dan niet ook de cats gemeentelijke en rijksmonumenten daarin opgenomen worden? En moet die cat dan niet ook in History of ... en in Culture of ... opgenomen zijn? Ik zie wel dat het in vele plaatsen op verschillende manieren gehandhaafd wordt, of niet compleet uitgewerkt is, maar niet de dwingende noodzaak om cat:memorials in .. te verwijderen. Hierin zijn vaak gedenkkruizen, plaquettes en oorlogsmonumenten opgenomen. In Duitsland noemt men geregistreerde monumentale bomen 'natuurlijke monumenten'. Waar verblijven de cultural heritage monuments? Moet dat allemaal weer doorelkaar? Het lijkt er voor mij een beetje op dat hier een tamelijk specifieke ondercat wordt opgeheven om de inhoud weer in een veel algemenere koepelcat te plaatsen. M.vr. groet Peli (talk) 10:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hoi Pelikana, de categorie Memorials in ... wordt eigenlijk helemaal niet beheerd. Zie hiervoor bijvoorbeeld Memorials in the Netherlands en zelfs Memorials in Germany. Deze verwijzen allebei naar Monuments and memorials in .... Daarom heb ik volgens de hiërarchie (zie ook Commons:Categories) de categorieën Memorials in ... hernoemd naar Monuments and memorials in ..., omdat dit de geldige naam voor deze categorie is. Graag hoor ik wederom jouw feedback. Fijn weekend! Vriendelijk groet, Fantaglobe11 (talk) 14:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Re: Why I moved those subcategories up edit

Hi Fanta,

"Streets of Drimmelen" and "Maps of Drimmelen" are subcategories I expect to find in "Geography of Drimmelen", because those categories pertain only to the geography of the place. But a category that covers a whole entire village is not just about its physical location - it's also about its history, culture, and so on. So putting e.g. Hooge Zwaluwe right below Drimmelen fits (and it's also where I'd expect to find it). The first images in that category are about its flag and seal, which have nothing to do with the geography of Drimmelen. Similar examples can be found in all the other subcategories as well. ReneeWrites (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@ReneeWrites: Now, I really understand what intention has been. That's actually a problem, because places like Hooge Zwaluwe normally would fit in the category Populated places in Drimmelen (e.g.), which would be a subcategory of Geography of Drimmelen. In my opinion, it would be the best solution to create the corresponding subcategories like History of Hooge Zwaluwe or Culture of Hooge Zwaluwe, that are subcategories to History of Drimmelen or Culture of Drimmelen. What do you think about it? Kind regards -- Fantaglobe11 (talk) 16:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply