Th. Fink Veringen
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Hallo Th. Fink Veringen,
du gibst dieses Bild als "eigenes Werk" vom 26. Juli 2009, 11:29:34 aus.
Das Datum kann kaum stimmen, wenn das Bild einen Mann zeigt, der 1962 starb. Was heißt "eigenes Werk"? Du warst selbst der Fotograf und hast den Mann zu seinen Lebzeiten höchstpersönlich fotografiert? Wenn ja, wann und wo war das? Oder heißt "eigenes Werk" eher, du hast das Bild aus einem Buch, einer Zeitung oder Zeitschrift gescannt? Danach sieht es nämlich eher aus. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 12:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Hallo Rosenzweig, das ursprüngliche Foto befindet sich im Nachlass meines Vaters Stefan Fink, dessen Rechtsnachfolger ich bin. Das Bild habe ich abfotografiert daher "mein Werk". Ich weiß, das ist nicht ganz korrekt, aber ich weiß nicht, wie ich das ansonsten formulieren soll. Th.Fink Veringen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th. Fink Veringen (talk • contribs) 12:28, 07 February 2016 (UTC)
- Und wer ist nun der eigentliche, ursprüngliche Fotograf? Dein Vater? Wir können Fotos hier nur behalten, wenn der Fotograf (rechtlich: der Urheber) oder seine Rechtsnachfolger (Erben) dem zustimmen. Erst 70 Jahre nach dem Tod des Urhebers werden Werke (also auch Fotos) gemeinfrei, und wir brauchen keine Genehmigung mehr.
- Wenn der Fotograf dein Vater ist, wird das Hochladen durch dich als Sohn wohl akzeptiert werden, wenn der Sachverhalt auf die Bildbeschreibungsseite geschrieben wird. Wenn jemand anders der Fotograf ist, wird das Foto ohne dokumentierte Genehmigung gelöscht werden. Das gilt auch für alle anderen Fotos ohne Genehmigung, deren Urheber nicht nachweislich schon mindestens 70 Jahre tot ist. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 14:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ich gehe davon aus, dass nicht er das Foto gemacht hat. Dieses Foto wurde im von ihm mitherausgegebenen Buch "Stadt Veringen" 1964 veröffentlicht. Daher gehe ich davon aus dass die Rechte vorliegen. Th-Fink Veringen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th. Fink Veringen (talk • contribs) 14:50, 07 February 2016 (UTC)
- Die Rechte für dieses Buch womöglich schon, aber nicht automatisch die Rechte, das Foto hier hochzuladen und jedermann unter einer freien Lizenz die Nutzung zu jedem Zweck zu gestatten. Wenn keine explizite Genehmigung für letzteres vorliegt und dokumentiert werden kann, wird die Datei wieder gelöscht werden müssen. Das gilt für alle von dir hochgeladenen Dateien mit ähnlicher Sachlage. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 16:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Wenn du das so siehst ... Schade! Ich habe aber auch Verständnis für eine klare Sachlage. Th-Fink Veringen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th. Fink Veringen (talk • contribs) 16:54, 07 February 2016 (UTC)
- Die Rechte für dieses Buch womöglich schon, aber nicht automatisch die Rechte, das Foto hier hochzuladen und jedermann unter einer freien Lizenz die Nutzung zu jedem Zweck zu gestatten. Wenn keine explizite Genehmigung für letzteres vorliegt und dokumentiert werden kann, wird die Datei wieder gelöscht werden müssen. Das gilt für alle von dir hochgeladenen Dateien mit ähnlicher Sachlage. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 16:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ich gehe davon aus, dass nicht er das Foto gemacht hat. Dieses Foto wurde im von ihm mitherausgegebenen Buch "Stadt Veringen" 1964 veröffentlicht. Daher gehe ich davon aus dass die Rechte vorliegen. Th-Fink Veringen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th. Fink Veringen (talk • contribs) 14:50, 07 February 2016 (UTC)
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Martin Sg. (talk) 12:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Thomas Fink: Ich habe keine Ahnung, warum dieses Foto gelöscht werden soll ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th. Fink Veringen (talk • contribs) 18:48, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Die Werke auch dieses Glaskünstlers sind bis 70 Jahre nach seinem Ableben urheberrechtlich geschützt. --Martin Sg. (talk) 21:11, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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Martin Sg. (talk) 12:51, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Thomas Fink: Ich habe keine Ahnung, warum dieses Foto gelöscht werden soll ...
- siehe oben. --Martin Sg. (talk) 21:12, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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Martin Sg. (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Dieses Photo befindet sich in meinem Familienbesitz und ich besitze alle Rechte. Thomas Fink. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Th. Fink Veringen (talk • contribs) 21:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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