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Primeres passes Les nostres pàgines de primeres passes i Preguntes més freqüents us seran de gran ajut després de registrar-vos-hi, on s'explica com personalitzar la interfície (l'idioma, per exemple), com carregar fitxers, i la nostra política bàsica sobre llicències d'ús. No cal que disposeu d'habilitats tècniques especials per a contribuir-n'hi. Llanceu-vos col·laborant-hi de valent i presumiu bona fe sobre les intencions d'altres. Commons és una wiki molt fàcil. Obtenir ajuda Teniu més informació disponible al portal comunitari. Podeu demanar per qualsevol afer a la taverna o al canal IRC #wikimedia-commons. També podeu posar-vos en contacte amb un administrador mitjançant la discussió de la pàgina d'usuari corresponent.		Trucs, pistes, i consells Utilitzeu cartells Babel a la vostra pàgina d'usuari per tal que altres usuaris sàpiguen quins idiomes parleu. Totes les vostres càrregues són enregistrades en la vostra galeria personal. Si us plau, signeu els vostres comentaris a les pàgines de discussió inserint-hi ~~~~. Féu servir CommonSense per a trobar bones categories pels fitxers que hi carregeu (així altres els poden trobar també!). Per tal d'enllaçar a la pàgina de descripció d'una imatge, escrigueu açò: [[:Image:Foo.jpg]]. Si esteu traslladant imatges d'altres projectes, assegureu-vos de fer servir el CommonsHelper. Hi heu comés una equivocació? Voleu tornar a posar nom o traslladar un fitxer? Tan sols carregueu-lo sota un altre nom i assenyaleu el que voleu esborrar de la següent manera: {{bad name|Nom correcte}}. Per més informació llegiu les normes d'esborrament.
(P.D. Us agradaria comentar aquest missatge?)

Re: Mapes de comarques del Llull

Ei, bon any. Les imatges de localització de comarques que hi ha a Category:Maps of regions of Autonomous Community of Catalonia estan carregades incorrectament com GFDL. Les he carregat de nou a Category:Maps of comarques of Catalonia com Domini Públic i amb les referències correctes a l'original de ca-wiki. Es poden esborrar les primeres? Les he marcat com Duplicate.--Vriullop 20:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Fet!! :D Bon any nou! Veig que comence amb molt d'enrenou! Pel que s'ha muntat una altra vegada amb eixe Juiced Lemon. Pff... Espere que tingues un bon nadal. Seguim en contacte. --Joanot Martorell ✉ 01:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Casa Real

Ese permiso no es suficiente aquí, ya que no especifica si es posible la modificación y el posible uso comercial, como requiere las condiciones de la GFDL. Un saludo. Anna 02:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Niuafoou.jpg

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Re:Ascla

Ninguna molestia, además, me interesa aprender cómo se dice porque así podré entender mejor las publicaciones en catalán (ej. Treballs d'Arqueologia)

Sí te pido que traduzcas la parte de otras versiones que está en castellano y, por coherencia debería ir en catalán--Locutus Borg 18:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Fotos PP de Cataluña

Hola Vriullop, le he dejado una nota. Tiendo a pensar que sí tiene permiso para subir las fotos, pero tiene que hacerlo según los procedimientos de commons. Veremos. Un saludo y gràcies --Ecemaml (talk to me/habla conmigo) 21:32, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Asunto resuelto. Sobre el cuadro de Luis Vives, la explicación esta User_talk:NeVic#Unas indicaciones. Un saludo --Ecemaml ^{talk to me/habla conmigo} 23:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Cuadros de Peris Brell

Hola Vriullop, le he dejado una nota, si en unos días no hay respuesta procederé al borrado, ya ha llovido desde que pedí aquella autorización. De hecho había olvidado el tema, gracias por recordármelo. Un saludo. Anna 02:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Me gustaría que hablásemos amablemente, Vriullop

Hola Vriullop (respetando la lengua de este foro, hablo en castellano). No te mando ninguna amenaza. Creo que tanto tu como yo hemos cometido errores. Te agradecería hablarlo en el messenger, o en cualquier chat privado. Ya conoces el tema, segun creo: mi expulsión sin diálogo previo de la Viquipedia. En fin, espero que con un poco de tiempo me respondas. Que pases un buen dia. Hasta la próxima!! --Cromelnordic 09:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Un vot per Raimon

Amic, podria vosté llegir-se esta discussió i emetre un vot, per agilitzar la resolució? --Llapissera -> talk 02:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC) P.S: ací té més detalls sobre l'assumpte.

Fet

Creo que ya está. Algo más :P ? Rastrojo _(D•ES) 17:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Ven a mí xDDDD ;) Rastrojo _(D•ES) 18:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Traducció

"Aprofito per recordar que a commons també hi ha feina a fer de traducció": Puc intentar de fer traduccions, però he mirat el centre de traduccions i no he sabut com posar-m'hi. Em pots ajudar? Per on començo? Jordi Roqué (Discussió/Talk) 09:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Sobre el missatge que m'has deixat

No podem utilitzar un bot per fer aquesta feina? És que seria un feinada fer això amb totes les comarques ja pujades! --Krls 14:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Upload form: Quick Help

hello! Could you please translate the last bullet from MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp? It helps experienced users find the old form. I'll then add it to MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp/ca. Thank you! Lupo 14:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the software thing

the only information I could find about that image was a few flash things and flash is not working on this computer at the moment. I found that image while sorting through one of the needs maintenance areas -- anyways, with your information I put in the delete without a vote pile and I thank you for doing the work for that. -- carol (talk) 09:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Vexilla Hispanica

Listo. Ya restauré los archivos que faltaban. Si notas alguno nuevo, por favor avísame. Saludos. KveD (talk) 19:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hola

Respecte al que vaig comentar a la taverna, la pàgina que voldria editar, per posar un exemple, és la de la Llotja de València. Aquesta quan clique a edtar només apareixen les categories. Gràcies. --Joanbanjo

Uf

Jo el que vull és editar és la pàgina, no la categoria. Perdó per emprenyar tany. --Joanbanjo

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Categories de Menorca

Te pareix que es pot fer res per salvar Category:Menorca (Commons:Categories for discussion#Category:Menorca) i Category:Maó (Commons:Categories for discussion#Category:Maó)? Gràcies, Paucabot (talk) 12:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

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Disculpa mi ignorancia y mi escaso conocimiento de inglés pero no entiendo porque se borran las imágenes de mi artículo (es la segunda vez). Soy funcionaria del Gobierno de Navarra, en el Servicio de Bibliotecas y todas las imágenes pertenecen al Departamento de Cultura y Turismo. Sin embargo, no sé dónde ni cómo demostrar que tengo permiso para publicar esas imágenes que algunas están realizadas por algún compañero con su cámara y otras son encargo a fotógrafos profesionales (pero son propiedad del Departamento). No se posee ningún documento acreditativo porque son imágenes de hace tiempo. Muchas gracias por tu tiempo y una vez más disculpa las molestias.

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Holla Vriullop, perdón por las molestias pero ¿está este archivo incluído en este ticket? Muchas gracias, — df|  14:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

No es ninguna molestia. El ticket da permiso para todo el contenido de la web de misionarte referida a Marlon Valverde. No anoté el ticket en esa imagen porque no la habia encontrado en la web. Repasado de nuevo ya la he localizado y he añadido el ticket. --V.Riullop (talk) 16:31, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Muchas gracias por tu ayuda. — df|  07:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

File:IraetakoPottoka.jpg

Hi, would it be possible that you state clearly (in a language other than Euskara, I mean) why the copyright status of this file is ok? Thanks in advance. --Eusebius (talk) 12:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure about the copyright status of this file. In "permission" the uploader says that the website gives permission to eu.wp. As I have answered in otrs:2009090610010356 it is not a valid permission, althougt it could be solved. But, moreover, the uploader argues public domain in this image as the author and date are unknown, as it is stated in the website. So, it is not a problem of permissions. --V.Riullop (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Tip: Add categories to your files

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no entiendo

Hola Vriullop

La peña ciudad deportiva mandó un correo a coomns con su permiso, para esta imagen File:Sr tomas224.jpg

Ya me dirás que es lo que hace falta, no entiendo lo que quiere decir la plantilla que has puesto, usa términos que no entiendo, demasiado complicados.

saludos

--Papix (talk) 20:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

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Dolçaina

Home, clar; estava esperant el resultat a cawiki (car no volia demanar l'esborrament d'una imatge sense tenir clar si realment tenia raó amb el tema de la llicència. Ferbr1 (talk) 11:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Eivissa

Ja he modificat Category:Cala Vedella, gràcies. Trobes que podem apel·lar contra el canvi de nom de Category:Eivissa? On ho hauríem de fer? Paucabot (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Les que ja estan identificades i classificades són a Category:Beaches of Eivissa. Ara te toca una bona feina d'identificació a tu a Category:Beaches of Ibiza tot usant les coordenades que duen algunes, la pròpia foto i el sentit comú. Paucabot (talk) 17:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Ja ho he fet. Paucabot (talk) 17:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Suport

Gràcies pel suport, Vicenç, és una veritable joia contar amb la confiança d'usuaris com tu. Salutacions cordials. Ferbr1 (talk) 10:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Florenci Mauné i Marimont

Hola, estic ajudant a la filla de ca:Florenci Mauné i Marimont a veure si pot penjar a commons fotografies i sardanes del seu pare. Veig que s'ha enviat un missatge per demanar una autorització OTRS per a Image:Emigrant.ogg Crec que ha fallat en alguna cosa, ja què no has pogut confirmar-la (Drets d'interpretació potser?). Tinc el seu número de telèfon per la qual cosa puc trucar-la. També voldria penjar una imatge de la qual en te la propietat però de la qual se'n desconeix l'autor (es completament anònima). Ja em diràs quelcom. Cameta (talk) 23:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Hola de nou, pel que es veu no ha rebut el teu missatge, deu haver anat a la paperera de spam.

Fotogràfies: Son anònimes i desgraciadament no tenen 80 anys, són dels anys 50. No podrien passar per meres fotogràfies? Això es creu que són fotogràfies simples sense valor artistic i d'aquestes el copyright expira els 20 anys de fetes.

Interpretació lliure de la sardana L'emigrant. Crec que com molt bé has dit s'haurien de tenir tots els drets dels implicats que pel que veig:

Obra derivada de la Sardana L'Emigrant, la qual fou composta originalment per Amadeu Vives i Roig. Mort el 1932 per tant no entra en domini public fins els 2013

Arranjaments de Florenci Mauné i Marimont (la seva filla es qui intentar penjar l'obra)

Interpretada per Mauné i els seus dinàmics (i cadascun d'aquests interprets te drets durant 50 anys)

Discogràfica EDIGSA 50 anys de drets sobre el vinil.

Però pel que veig si que hi ha una serie de sardanes els dret d'interpretació de les quals han expirat al haver transcorregut 50 anys. Cameta (talk) 09:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Mira, aquesta ha estat acceptada

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Maune_tenora66.jpg Cameta (talk) 09:39, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Si 25 anys (perdona per l'errada). Si com comentes es deu referir al procès de digitalització (el qual a Espanya genera un altre copyright per cert). Jo crec que en aquest cas es tracta d'una mera fotogràfia perquè no hi veig cap cosa artística. (Segons les males llengües les meres fotogràfies són les fetes per autors desconeguts, morts i que no poden presentar demandes)Cameta (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

wildenstein Gauguin

Thanks. User:SchlurcherBot automatically applied a similar mode for Van Gogh here (by the way I don't know what the category name should be]]. With Gauguin, I'm not sure the syntax used in the ID line is sufficiently uniform to be understood by a bot, so it may have to be applied manually. --Zolo (talk) 08:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Title parameter

Hello, I've added a "title" parameter in template inscriptions. I've used it for Gauguin in File:Gauguin Te bourao II.jpg. However, I'm not sure it is absolutely correct. Do I revert to inscription, or do I keep it like like this ?--Zolo (talk) 10:07, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

It is correct. The image is not clear enough to distinguish it, but I have checked out the notes in the catalogue of Sugana. --V.Riullop (talk) 11:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I meant: can we call it "title" or should we simply call it "inscriptions"?

Ops, now I understand. At least with Gauguin, these inscriptions intended to be a title. I think it is correct. --V.Riullop (talk) 12:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

catalogues and template painting

You may have seen that there are some discussion going on to upgrade template painting. It includes a merging with template metainformation. This may mean that we will create an "accession number" line in place of ID, and create a "references" parameter. As the creator and a major user of template catalogue, what would you think of moving catalogue numbers to the reference section, and probably give the full name of the reference. For Gauguin, I imagine it would be something like this :

• Accession number : RF 10203
• References : Gabriele Mandel Sugana (1972) Tout l'oeuvre peint de Gauguin, 1981, number
  Daniel Wildenstein (2001), Gauguin, catalogues, Seuil, number
  Georges Wildenstein (1964), catalogue Gauguin, Les Beaux-Art, number (or English versions if they exist)

Would that be okay ? Maybe we should find a trick to make the number easier to spot at first glance. You can give ideas or make comments about the proposed changes at the template page (for the moment we are still at the stage "general ideas" though).--Zolo (talk) 08:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I've tried to adopt the style you have suggested for {{Gauguin catalogues}}. If I made mistakes, please correct theme. In the same time, I've tried a database template, and have put it below the catalogue (File:Paul Gauguin 006.jpg). To me it's better like this, with all references, in the same place rather than with links below the infobox. But I'm not sure it will have much success...--Zolo (talk) 18:28, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

To simplify syntax, I created two different template: {{Georges Wildenstein Gauguin}} and {{Daniel Wildenstein Gauguin}}. I hope the first W is always Georges' number, otherwise, I'll have to revert all my edits.--Zolo (talk) 21:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

You are right, the first W is the older one for Georges' number. I have fixed the titles, specially the original edition of Sugana is in Italian. --V.Riullop (talk) 15:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Since it is now quite clear from their names that they are catalogues, should we remove the word "catalogue" from the template and (and maybe add it manually when there are other types of references in the file) ? In any case, we should probably wait until user:SchlurcherBot have moved them from inventory number to the reference field. --Zolo (talk) 08:08, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

:::::I am not sure. Catalogue raisonné is a precise name for academic reference used in arts, and discards that it becomes a collection of any bibliography. --V.Riullop (talk) 10:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay, maybe we should create a "other references" similar to the catalogue template template then (otherwise, if someone adds another reference just below the catalogues, it may look as if it was in the catalogue list)--Zolo (talk) 11:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my mistakes on File:Gauguin_Tarari_maruru.jpg (and on some other files). Are there to Georges Wildenstein numbers ? Writing the two numbers in the form XX-XX has a minor inconvenience, it causes the file to appear at the end of category:Works by Gauguin by Wildenstein Index Number rather than between XX-1 and XX+1. So I added a W' parameter for that.--Zolo (talk) 20:08, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

This is an only case, I think. G.Wildenstein assigned two numbers for the same picture, indicating that the second one was missing. Later, some scholars have confirmed that they are the same one. --V.Riullop (talk) 08:09, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks for the explanation. I leave the template as is, since it seems the best way to handle this particular case.--Zolo (talk) 22:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Mahana maa I

Thanks for fixing my mistakes once again at File:Gauguin Mahana maa I.jpg. Do you know why it is translated as "Moments of Truth" if it is not its original name. I see that WIldenstein made a comment about it ([1]) but I do not have access to the catalogue.--Zolo (talk) 08:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

If you have acces to jstor, Bengt Danielsson explains it: "Because the Tahitians are in the habit of preparing their food (ma'a) on the day (mahana) before the Sabbath, in order not to profane it with any wotk, the name for Saturday in the Tahitian calender means literally Food day. Although Wildenstein-Cogniat have appealed to Mme Nordmann-Salmon for help -with the result that she immediately supplied the correct translation- they have not only failed to translate the title accordingly with Samedi, Saturday, but have added a second, erroneous translation, Vrai jour, giving as their reason that "le gouverneur Bouge pense que le titre exact doit être Mahana Mau, vrai jour, qui indique aussi l'idée de date exacte." The title on Wildestein's catalogue is "Mahana Maa, Vrai jour ou Jour de provisions". So, English "Moments of Truth" is the translation of the second title "Vrai jour". Other scholars consider "Jour de provisions" more apropiate. --V.Riullop (talk) 09:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I have added a note so that it is clear to everyone (feel free to change it if there is something wrong with it). I'll have a look at the article, it looks quite interesting.--Zolo (talk) 10:43, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Floquet_de_Neu.jpg

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Fitxers que es volen esborrar

Ben volgut: Torno a escriure en relació al fitxers que es volen esborrar de Commons, referens a fitxers d'avions, procedents de la pagina del Ejercito del Aire, si ve es veritat que en la part de legalitat, fa referencia a logos i figures de la pagina, per que en la banda d'història d'aeronaus, quan puntxes per saber més i apareix galeria de fotos, quan puntxes les fotos hi ha la possibilitat de baixar-les? i cerca llavors la questió de la publicació. En quan a les fotos que he fet, han estat retocades per mi per facilitar la comprensió , o per millorar el aspecte. records--Jbaropuig (talk) 10:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Que hi hagi la possibilitat de descàrrega no vol dir que es pugui utilitzar per a qualsevol propòsit inclòs el comercial. La seva nota legal és clara: "La licencia de uso de cualquier contenido de este Portal otorgada al usuario se limita a la descarga por parte del usuario de dicho contenido y el uso privado del mismo, siempre que los citados contenidos permanezcan íntegros." Per tant, no en pots fer un ús públic ni retocar-les. --V.Riullop (talk) 11:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Identificadors wlm

Hola. La vetitat és que en qüestions técniques sóc prou dolent. Jo no sé on es troba el problema a la llista per exemple de la Ribera Baixa com deies. Jo diria que sí que s'ha pogut enllaçar. Respecte a la forma de presentar el codi BIC, donat que hi ha diverses possibilitats, pot ser amb una nota al peu seria prou per a aclarir les coses. És complicat que a totes les llengües es facen les taules de la mateixa forma. Estem en contacte. --Millars (talk) 19:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Bona nit, una pregunteta

Bon dia Vicenç, espere que et va tot molt bé. Tinc una pregunteta, se m'ha esborrat el fitxer següent: File:JosepCarbonell.jpg, adduint la data de mort del dibuixant. L'he tret de lAlmanach Occitan de 1923, llavors si s'aplica allò de la data no hi hauria d'haver cap problema però no hauria de dependre de la mort del dibuixant, sí o no? Gràcies per la resposta, fins una altra, records, Claudi/Capsot (talk) 21:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Gràcies pels aclariments. Fins una altra, records, Claudi/Capsot (talk) 12:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Heads up

Just so you know, User:Zemskaya tried to impersonate you on a deletion request [2]. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out, it is unfair behavour. --V.Riullop (talk) 06:58, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Plantilla "User Catalan Countries"

S'ha creat la plantilla d'usuari {{User Catalan Countries}}. El motiu d'aquesta és mirar de fer visibles a Commons aquells usuaris que han nascut o viuen als Països Catalans. Si vols afegir-la a la teva pàgina d'usuari només cal que hi incloguis aquest codi: {{User Catalan Countries}}. Gràcies i disculpa la intrusió a la teva pàgina.--Peprovira (talk) 15:56, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Re:Identificadors wlm

Hola. Què tal les Pasqües? Espere que bé. Tornant al tema. Com he comentat en alguns llocs (ja no recorde on) la idea seria que a les comunitats de les que no tenim id autonòmic posar tan sols el codi BIC, però quan hi haja un autonòmic com a l'Aragó, Catalunya, Murcia, etc. posar-los els dos. Supose que el bot per a la base de dades podria agafar per defecte el bic i agafar l'autonòmic quan el bic estiga buit. No se si hi hauria cap problema, però no veig convenient mesclar dos identificadors diferents a la mateixa columna, millor dues columnes diferents. Respecte a enllaçar a una web externa, per no embolicar-ho més ara, a es:wp de moment podriem enllaçar amb forma de referències i de moment no cal crear més plantilles. De moment encara no hem sabut sol·lucionar el fet de que hi haja un camp opcional per a un segon identificador, emprant una capçalera que mostre una columna adicional. Salutacions. --Millars (talk) 11:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

No acabe de entendre-ho. Dius que la idea és enllaçar les imatges o categories de Commons, però, on? a les llistes? Com? I, quina informació dius que ha d'estar a la Viquipèdia? --Millars (talk) 12:52, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Pel que veig em pareix entendre que el problema vindria quan vulguerem que de forma automática un bot afegira el link a la plantilla BIC de Commons. Però de moment la plantilla BIC sense enllaç sí que la podria afegir, i es podria afegir el link de forma manual. Si hi han dos identificadors, la plantilla BIC acepta tots dos? I, hi hauria alguna forma de que puguera reconeixer el link d'una referencia en una fila? Bé, el fet de fer més plantilles s'hauria de parlar a es:wp, a veure que es fa... Salutacions. --Millars (talk) 17:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Però no dic que siga el bot qui afegisca el segon id, sino que la plantilla l'accepte i així es pot afegir a poc a poc de forma manual. A més a més, ara qualsevol categoria o fotografia amb la plantilla BIC es suposa que és un monument però hi han que no ho són, perque son Conjunts Hitòrics, Zones arqueològiques, etc. Caldrà poder afegir un paràmetre a esta plantilla per a que faça la distinció. Salut. --Millars (talk) 18:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Torre de les bruixes

Hola VRiu: he tret la Torre de les Bruixes de la categoria "watch towers in Catalonia" donat que no es pròpiament una atalaia sinó una de les torres de muralla de Torroella que, juntament amb la del portal de Santa Caterina, són les úniques que es conserven després de l'arrauxament higienista de la segona meitat del s.XIX. Si que són torres i tenen una funció militar original, però per ser atalaies entenc cal que siguin edificis aïllats com les torres de vigia costaneres que hi ha repartides per la costa de Menorca (s.XVI) o la també propera a Torroella al cim de la punta Montgó (L'Escala), la Torre dels Moscats o del cim de la Torre Moratxa propera a l'Estartit. Veig que també hi han incloses torres adossades a masos per les que crec que la funció és més defensiva (protecció de bens i persones envers els atacs de pirateria turco-berberesca del s. XVI i XVII) que no pas estructures d'observació pel que tendiria a deixar-les com a torres més que com atalaies. Que en penses? --Bestiasonica (talk) 22:32, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

La veritat és que he estat dubtant ja que tenen una doble funció de vigilància i defensiva. En el cas de les torres aïllades del litoral està clar. En els casos de torres de castells o muralles sembla clar que és un element més d'una funció defensiva més àmplia i podrien estar en una categoria de castells o muralles. No ho tinc tant clar en les torres de masos. Encara que podrien estar en una categoria de masies, una torre d'aquestes sol ser un element diferencial de la pròpia masia i amb una funció també de vigilància del camp. Fent els monuments m'he trobat amb masies fortificades protegides i en d'altres casos on només ho està la torre. Jo les deixaria si són torres prou singulars. --V.Riullop (talk) 07:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Ho dic perquè per la plana del Baix Ter i la del Muga/Fluvià (em sembla que al Maresme també n'hi ha unes quantes i possiblement en altres regions del litoral mediterrani espanyol) hi ha diversos masos fortificats: masos que disposaven d'una torre, originalment no connectada arquitectònicament al mas, però que amb la pèrdua de funció defensiva van passar a formar part del conjunt). Aquests masos són prou característics i ubicus com per merèixer una categoria pròpia (inclosa a masies i a torres, p.ex.). --Bestiasonica (talk) 08:40, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Dubtes

Hola Vriullop, he vist aquestes imatges [3], [4] i [5] amb una signatura. És admissible, o se li ha de fer treure ?

Aprofito també per preguntar què implica exactament que una llicència "cc-by-sa-3.0" no estigui adaptada a un territori. A mi no m'afecta perquè pujo les imatges sota domini públic, però si que m'agradaria saber quina és la diferència. --Puigalder (talk) 09:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Aquestes imatges ja se'ls ha posat l'avís watermark. Es pot avisar a l'usuari en els termes que explica la plantilla. Les imatges s'admeten a Commons, i per tant també al concurs, però no és recomanable i probablement el jurat les descartarà per aquest motiu.

La llicència cc-by-sa unported o no adaptada significa que en realitat està adaptada a la legislació nord-americana i suposadament és internacional. La cc-by-sa-3.0-es està adaptada a la llei de propietat intel·lectual espanyola. Les diferències són mínimes, especialment fa menció als drets morals que la legislació anglosaxona no contempla. Tècnicament té més consistència legal que estigui adaptada ja que els tractats internacionals sobre drets d'autor es basen en les legislacions estatals. És decisió de l'autor apel·lar a la seva pròpia jurisdicció o deixar-ho unported de forma genèrica. --V.Riullop (talk) 11:50, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Gràcies per la didàctica explicació. Si fos per mi tindria molt clar què fer, però si en vull parlar a d'altres persones considero que ho he de fer explicant exactament què implica i que cadascú actuï com li sembli, des del coneixement.

Aprofito per comentar que acabo de traduir la plantilla d'usuari "Wiki Loves Monuments" al català (creada avui). --Puigalder (talk) 13:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Categories

Hola Vriullop, ja fa mesos vaig crear les categories "Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional in Garrotxa" i "Béns Culturals d'Interès Nacional in Pla de l'Estany". Per no embolicar més la troca suposo que el millor seria moure a les actuals categories "Cultural heritage monuments in ..." el que hi falti i demanar la supressió de les meves categories, no ? Al Pla de l'Estany he vist que hi ha una mica d'embolic i anava a arreglar-ho. Com ho veus ? --Puigalder (talk) 15:41, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Sí, és un embolic. Com a BCIN hi entren monuments, jardins històrics, conjunts, zones arqueològiques, etc. Com a Cultural heritage monuments hi entren BCIN-monuments i BCIL-immobles. Això obliga a fer dobles categoritzacions i tal com està el tema em sembla millor si es pot evitar. --V.Riullop (talk) 18:12, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

D'acord, doncs ho moc i després demano la supressió de les meves categories per evitar confusions mentre duri el concurs. Després ja es veurà. --Puigalder (talk) 18:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Redundàncies

Hi ha moltes fotos a Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Barcelona que potser només haurien d'estar a la categoria de l'edifici en questió, per evitar redundàncies i per descarregar la categoria mare, massa plena (412 fotos ara mateix). Movem totes les que es puguin moure? --Jordiferrer (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Sí, aquest és el procés normal, anar-les baixant des de dalt a les subcategories que toqui i anar creant les categories de monuments que facin falta. Quant veig 2/3 imatges del mateix monument ja creo la seva categoria. --V.Riullop (talk) 19:11, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

D'acord, ja aniré buidant de mica en mica.--Jordiferrer (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Flickr upload

Hola Vicenç, no puc veure la imatge que has pujat Almudaina, Eivissa.jpg . Has fet el darrer pas consistent en clicar sobre la frase "You must then click this link to complete the upload" ? (No es veu gaire i sembla que ja hagis acabat abans - a mi em va costar una estona de veure després de no trobar la imatge pujada). Potser no és això, però per si de cas. --Puigalder (talk) 18:31, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Sí, ho he fet i el bot ha afegit la informació de llicència, però no ha carregat el fitxer. Veig que ha estat una hora parat i ara no sé en quina cua de pendents deu estar, ja que té un rati de limitació de càrregues. Esperaré. --V.Riullop (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

D'acord. Quan anava per posar a la galeria de la viquipèdia les imatges que he pujat volia afegir també la teva però no m'apareixia. Deu ser això que dius. --Puigalder (talk) 19:15, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments

Hola Vriullop, afegeixo l'adreça de correu (havia oblidat fer-ho quan em vaig registrar). Tot i que el que em motiva no són els premis del concurs, merci per recordar-ho per si de cas. --Puigalder (talk) 20:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Correu electrònic wiki loves monuments

Gràcies per l'avís! He anat però al link que m'has indicat i sembla que ja n'havia introduïda una, d'adreça. El fet que m'avisis em fa pensar que he fet alguna cosa malament. Em pots ajudar? Per què a tu no et consta? Gràcies per avançat!!

Me n'oblidava! Si veig algun error a les llistes de conuments (em refereixo a fotos que no corresponen al monument) a qui li he de dir per poder-ho corregir? Les de Flickr s'han arreglat per mitjà d'un fil, però les que no ho són?

Confirmar dubte

Hola Vriullop, hi ha un parell d'imatges que crec que estan mal etiquetades ja que el codi no és correcte i sembla que no és un monument (tot i que em sorprèn que el monestir de montserrat no sigui considerat monument). Podries confirmar-ho ? En cas de no ser-ho, s'hauria de retirar el codi, la plantilla WLM i també s'haurien de retirar del recompte d'imatges del dia 25. File:Montserrat- Monestir.jpg i File:Montserrat-Altar.jpg. --Puigalder (talk) 19:11, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Santa Maria de Montserrat és un BCIL, però no el tenim a les llistes com la majoria de BCIL. Sap greu, però no trobo bé afegir-lo a 4 dies del final del concurs. El codi actual és incorrecte, així que el retiro. El recompte no és problema perquè es genera cada dia de nou i el que valdrà serà el final. --V.Riullop (talk) 21:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Estic d'acord en no afegir-ho a 4 dies del final. La propera edició serà un bon moment per anar completant els BCIL de més municipis. --Puigalder (talk) 12:59, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Tallers 11

Em sembla bé fer categories per carrers, però això no treu la utilitat de fer, a més, categories per monument. El que hem fet amb Gran de Gràcia em sembla un bon model.

A Commons cada monument acaba amb un bon grapat de categories, i quan no hi ha una categoria del monument cada foto acaba amb categories diferents que haurien d'anar a totes. L'única manera de coordinar-ho és una categoria del monument.

En general jo faig primer les categories de cada monument i després les del carrer. Potser en carrer com Consolat de Mar, amb molts monuments poc diferents i moltes fotos amb més d'un monument a la vegada, seria més pràctic fer-ho a l'inrevés.

Només em queda el dubte de si la categoria del carrer i la de monuments del carrer no es fan nosa. A Category:Carrer Tallers, per exemple, només hi ha monuments.--Pere prlpz (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Re:Colección Carmen Thyssen

No entiendo porqué has desecho mi edición, el cuadro 'Paisaje Norteafricano' de Fortuny forma parte de la colección permanente del Museo Carmen Thyssen de Málaga. Puede que estuviera en Barcelona el año pasado o anteriormente, pero con toda probabilidad sería en una cesión temporal. El Museo Carmen Thyssen se inauguró en abril de este año. Saludos. --Lupulo2010 (talk) 12:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Aquí tienes un enlace donde aparece la mención al cuadro como parte de la colección del Carmen Thyssen Málaga 1. En el penúltimo párrafo dice textualmente: '(...)conviene no olvidar los cuadros de Marià Fortuny i Marsal ('Paisaje norteafricano', c. 1862) y José Moreno Carbonero ('Ca d'Oro', c. 1897)(...)'. He estado dos veces en el museo y lo he visto con mis propios ojos. Saludos. --Lupulo2010 (talk) 13:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your edits to {{Object photo}}, #mw-category-media was definitely what I was looking for. I could not find such a thing, so I used an anchor in {{Category definition: Object}} which was not as good, and I forgot to update {{Object photo}} when I changed its name. It should work better now.--Zolo (talk) 10:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

You can find such anchors viewing the HTML sourcecode of the page and searching "div id". --V.Riullop (talk) 11:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok I see thanks:).--Zolo (talk) 11:18, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Església de Santa Reparada

File:Església_de_Santa_Reparada.jpg está sin BIC [6], aunque aparece en [7]. Sin embargo, no la veo en las listas. ¿No debería figurar en ca:Llista de monuments de l'Alt Empordà ? Platonides (talk) 22:18, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

El Inventario de Patrimonio Arquitectónico de gencat incluye los BCIN, equivalentes a BIC, más su propuesta de BCIL a considerar. Todos los BCIN estan identificados como tal incluyendo la fecha del expediente. El resto probablemente seran BCIL, pero no lo indica ni lo podemos confirmar. En este caso no he encontrado ningún otro catálogo ni expediente publicado en el Diario Oficial. De momento lo dejo como BCIL sin código, y debería quedar fuera de WLM. --V.Riullop (talk) 07:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Re: caçador de monuments

Hem pogut caçar molts monuments perquè primer algú ha fet unes llistes de monuments per caçar i uns portals que permeten pujar desenes de fotos per hora. Això a mi em sembla més impressionant encara.

Enhorabona per la part que et toca.--Pere prlpz (talk) 17:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)