Category talk:Jeffrey Tambor

Call for discussion

This edit and This edit add a lot of categories, for films and TV shows Tambor has been in, including: Category:Scooby-Doo cast members, Category:The Death of Stalin, Category:Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Category:The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, Category:Trolls (film) and Category:Transparent (TV series).

Yeah, is that really the way categories should be used? Surely a definitive list of all his works belongs in the wikipedia article about him?

Surely these categories should be added to images, or sub-categories, directly related to the category? If we had images of Tambor directly related to The Death of Stalin then add Category:The Death of Stalin to those images. Steve Buscemi did attend the 2017 TIFF Premiere of the film, and I just replaced Category:The Death of Stalin with Category:2017 TIFF Premiere of The Death of Stalin, for the relevant images. We don't seem to have any images of Tambor, related to that film, so don't mention it here, or maybe in the schema, at the top of the category... Geo Swan (talk) 01:11, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

@Howcheng:

@Geo Swan: I was actually fixing circular category references and following the convention already being used on Commons: actor is member of film. Someone else (or multiple people) had created categories like "[actor name] in [year]" and started adding films to those categories. Since we already had been using the other way, this created a loop: film → actor in year → actor → film. A second problem was in the daily gallery updates by OgreBot. For example, I have User:Howcheng/Recent uploads/Hawaii, and I frequently get pictures of both Keanu Reeves and Nicole Kidman (both of whom are from Hawaii). I started seeing photos of random actors in my galleries because the six degrees of separation effect. A photo would get added to an actor's category (someone who has no relation to Hawaii) and the bot would crawl upwards: actor → film → actor 2 in year → actor 2 → film 2 → actor 3 in year → actor 3 → film → Nicole Kidman in year → Nicole Kidman → ... → Hawaii. Anyway, I don't particularly care if we put actors in film categories or not. I just want to prevent these circular category references. —howcheng {chat} 07:26, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

I am not sure I understand what you are explaining about circularity, but I don't think you are advocating leaving actors in film categories, when we have no images of them related to those films. So I removed them from this category. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 21:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC)