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Wording of bot account approval in COM:BPEdit

Please refer to Commons:Bots/Work_requests#Bot account misuse, revisiting COM:BP. This is a slightly technical issue, but notifying here as a courtesy, being related to the bureaucrat role. -- (talk) 11:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

There is now a specific proposal at: Commons_talk:Blocking_policy#Proposal_to_change_wording_for_"unauthorized_bot_accounts". -- (talk) 11:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for Account creator (noratelimit)Edit

Davey2010 asked for it here, so I guess this is the place.

I just got throttled, so I'd like noratelimit. I make too many edits trying to clean up Russavia's crap. Cat-a-lot even dropped some categorizations because of the ratelimit, which is problematic. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 02:13, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

If there are any questions or anything, please ask.. For some more info, see Category talk:To do. I will move some more files from Russavia socks to Category:To do and strip {{Check categories}} from them which was added blindly (without any regard to current categorization) years after upload by these Russavia socks. That's all. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 07:58, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
@Krd:? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 21:34, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
As you ping me, I'm concerned about your user page which insults me personally at several points, and I'd prefer to leave this open for a fellow crat to decide. --Krd 07:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
@Krd: I criticized your actions on that case, not you as a person. I don't see that as a personal insult, I have no issues with you outside of that case. But, fair enough if you'd rather leave this to someone else. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
This request was approached with a starting point of "crap" for uploads that include several contributors, including me. It is not surprising that there is no apparent rush to comply.
With respect to the technical issue of cat-a-lot dropping changes because of the user's account not having noratelimit, could you reference a Phabricator ticket please? It is not obvious that this would be the cause of dropouts compared to other issues, or that a work-around is not as simple as re-running the tool on the same selection, based on pragmatic experience not a lot of extra effort.
Note that I have successfully used very slow pywikibot scripts, in some cases with more severe than usual throttles, to make very large mass changes. A slow housekeeping run over several days, has distinct benefits compared to super fast mass changes. -- (talk) 15:56, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
@: which uploads of yours are categorized in Category:To do? (seriously, if there are any I want to know)
"could you reference a Phabricator ticket please?" I noticed this issue before when the ratelimits were introduced with stupidly low values for Commons. A week or so later they were raised, so most users don't run into problems anymore.. unless you categorize many, many, many files. Yes, re-running the tool is a solution (which I had already figured out), but is quite some effort with these numbers. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 16:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Looking at the search results, actually not very many, I count 82 files, most from Faebot. I did upload something like 80,000 avionics files in total, so maybe I just stuck to the standard subst:chc which ended up elsewhere. Not sure how many different uploaders are in your to_do cat, you may benefit from working out the list.
If as it appears, you are re-catting or otherwise housekeeping 140,000 files and would like to do more of these very large change projects, I strongly recommend you do not use cat-a-lot but run simple command line changes from python + pywikibot. This gives you far greater control about doing multiple housekeeping fixes at the same time, and gives you detailed control over stuff like throttling. Other solutions like AWB might be even easier to run, but I stopped using that tool years ago. -- (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Can you link some of those 82 files? There should be none so I want to investigate this. I see three files: File:RAF Avia Antonov AN-26B Bakema-1.jpg which is categorized as Category:Images uploaded by Fæ but actually uploaded by Russavia, a result of bad dupe merging. On File:106TH ANNUAL BANQUET (held by) FRIENDLY SONS OF ST. PATRICK (at) DELMONICO'S (REST;) (NYPL Hades-269842-4000001208).tiff, a Russavia sock touched that file to remove {{Check categories}} so I will make no difference to it in the end. File:Let L-410UVP Turbolet, Lithuania - Air Force JP6757852.jpg was categorized by a Russavia sock. This file is also in Category:Files uploaded in cooperation with blocked accounts.. was that a project in cooperation with Russavia? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 16:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Use the normal search with incategory:to_do insource:Faebot. -- (talk) 17:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
79 Faebot identified duplicates, and those are files that were uploaded by Russavia, not you. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:57, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Btw, Herzi Pinki proposed to do what I'm trying to.. back in 2016 already. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 17:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)