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Uploading logosEdit

I am trying to upload the logo of Grunt which is a open-source software. I am guessing it is not trademarked, but I cannot be sure. How can I confirm this? Also, I am unable to find designer's name and date of publication for this image. Can anyone suggest how I may find this information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohits19 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Trademark is not an issue, except for possibly using the {{trademark}} template. The question is whether it is copyrighted. You don't point to an example online, but this is presumably recent enough that if it rises to the threshold of originality necessary for copyright, then it is copyrighted. - Jmabel ! talk

Images of living British prime ministersEdit

Hello there. Would it be possible to have these Flickr images ([1] [2] [3] [4]) uploaded to either the Commons or directly at Wikipedia? I would like to use these images (preferably different versions of the photos, at a larger size and higher quality) to illustrate a Wikipedia article completely lacking in photos. Thanks. Neve-selbert (talk) 01:41, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

The photos are not freely licensed, all of them have All rights reserved. This means that they cannot be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. English Wikipedia allows non-free media within their quite comprehensive fair use policy. A single non-free photo for which there is no free alternative might be permissible there. --rimshottalk 07:09, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Never mind, then. Thank-you anyway. Neve-selbert (talk) 21:10, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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PD-US tagEdit

Does the PD-US tag apply retroactively to images made in US territories prior to their incorporation into the US like Guam, Puerto Rico or Hawaii?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:09, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

  • I would think that in any case 100% of pre-annexation published material from those territories is now public domain, so {{PD-US-1923}} is as good a tag as any. - Jmabel ! talk 17:01, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
I don't think that Hawaii had any pre-US copyright law and is now firmly part of the US. Guam and Puerto Rico, on the other hand, were presumably part of the Berne Convention by virtue of Spain's adhering to that law. 100% is PD-US, but not necessarily PD-Spain.
Ultimately, I don't think this has as much to do with the real world as it does with Commons, and I don't think we want to make up problems for ourselves. There may be some place in the world where the origin of the work for the rule of the shorter term might be interpreted to be Spain and not the US, but it's not something I'd stress about. PD-US-1923 should be fine.--Prosfilaes (talk) 13:05, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

About the engineEdit

I have a hyundai elantra 1.6 gls petrol 2004 to 2005 modal. i wanted a diagram for vacuum papers from the inlet and the starter type as well clutch plate. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Datsi (talk • contribs) 22:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

  • This is a page for help using Wikimedia Commons. Unless I'm missing something, there is nothing we can do here to help you. - Jmabel ! talk 23:05, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
  • You'd be better off looking for a Chilton or Haynes manual for your car. clpo13(talk) 23:39, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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Moving files from en Wikipedia to CommonsEdit

I recently moved this file to Commons with the help of CommonsHelper, but its tags now are all broken [5]. Can someone help me fixing it, please? --ArgonSim (talk) 18:14, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done clpo13(talk) 22:14, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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Uploading state-owned imagesEdit

I was looking at an article of a town, and there is no image of its coat of arms. As it is of the State/Town Hall, is permission required to upload it? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ευχαριστώ (talk • contribs) 18:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Generally yes, a permission is required but it depends on which town you mean. Ruslik (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. The town is San Antonio de Areco. So what's the next step? Who should I contact to get the permission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ευχαριστώ (talk • contribs) 20:23, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
  • If there is a version of the coat of arms old enough to be in the public domain, that would be simplest. Otherwise: usually the official blazon of a coat of arms is a verbal description, with any given image being an artist's interpretation of that blazon being subject to the artist's own copyright. So this gets complicated. I suspect you could get better advice at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 22:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

All Rights ReservedEdit

Some of the pictures on Flickr say "All Rights Reserved", but I want to upload some pictures from Flickr to Wikimedia Commons? How do I get the author's permission to use the photos that say "All Rights Reserved"? Bryson483 (talk) 19:57, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Please see Commons:Flickr files/Appeal for license change. LX (talk, contribs) 21:30, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
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I want to upload a picture of a musical duo but i'm not the author of it. So I connected with them via their VERIFIED Facebook page, told them that i've created a Wikipedia article about them and they sent me two pictures to upload for the article. Now before uploading them i wanna know how can i prove that they have really sent me those picture? Is it ok if i record a video during which i'm gonna show you our Facebook messages and then visit their verified page to prove that they gave me the permission to upload them? --Eurofan88 (talk) 22:05, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

You'll want to follow the steps listed here: Commons:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder. If the photos you have are licensed appropriately for Commons (see Commons:Licensing), then you can upload them and add the template {{subst:OP}}. Then the copyright holders (the musicians) need to email with a statement of permission (the OTRS page I linked has a template they can use for a release of rights), previous correspondence with you, and a link to the image. An OTRS volunteer will make sure everything's in order. Hope that helps. clpo13(talk) 22:22, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
clpo13, unfortunately i don't think they will take time to do all those things, they simply sent me the pictures and told me that i can ulpoad them. But how is it not ok if a record a video and prove you? I just need someone (probably an admin) to watch the video and see that everything is ok with it. --Eurofan88 (talk) 22:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Two copies of the same photo with a different resolutionEdit

What is the procedure when you find two copies of the same image on Commons? The files File:Anillos pene.jpg and File:Cock rings.jpg are the same except for the resolution. Alice2Alice (talk) 04:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

See Commons:Deletion_policy#Duplicates. --ghouston (talk) 06:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

How to get an old version of an image deletedEdit

Hi. Assume somebody uploaded a picture he took. Also assume this person doesn't want it known where he took it but forgot to delete the location meta data at first, so he uploaded a new, edit version. How can he get the old version deleted? --Widar23 (talk) 11:01, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

  • Upload the new version first. Then any administrator can delete the old version to suppress this information. Note that this is not a "hard delete". Administrators will still be able to see the old version, but others will not. - Jmabel ! talk 15:19, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Uploading Red Cross symbolsEdit

Hello, I wanted to create an English version of the article for the Red Cross of Serbia and i wanted to include an infobox. For it, i'd need a symbol of the Red Cross of Serbia, but there are none uploaded to Commons. Could i upload it from the Red Cross of Serbia website, in the same manner that has been done with Romanian Red Cross logo here. Thanks SRBeen (talk) 20:49, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Luise Kaish, Sphere, 1976, Hood Museum, Dartmouth College.jpgEdit

I have permission from Dartmouth College's Hood Museum to use this image, but I couldn't figure out a good way to indicate that when uploading the image. Can you let me know the best way to submit proof of permission to use the image on Wikipedia? Thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahcmccollum (talk • contribs) 21:41, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Sarahcmccollum (talk)

  • Convenience link: File:Luise Kaish, Sphere, 1976, Hood Museum, Dartmouth College.jpg - Jmabel ! talk 00:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
    • Assuming that the sculpture is copyrighted, it would presumably be the artist, not the museum, that owns the copyright.
    • Your credits seem to be saying that the photo is also by the artist. I have my doubts, because it doesn't look like very professional work.
    • "permission... to use this image..." is quite vague, and there is no such license as {{PD-Dartmouth College}}, the one you've indicated. What we would need -- both from the artist and from the photographer if those are different people -- is permission to use the photo under a specific free license. That permission needs to come via email, as explained at COM:OTRS. - Jmabel ! talk 00:17, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

How to contribute a book?Edit

Hello: I have published a book and want to contribute it to Wikisource. How would I do that? Thanks, Anatoly Volynets Anatoly13 (talk) 22:15, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

So long as the book is within the scope of the project (see COM:SCOPE#PDF and DjVu formats) and freely licensed, you can upload a digital or scanned version of the book in PDF or DjVu format (see COM:FT#Texual formats and wikisource:Help:DjVu files) here on Commons and then follow the instructions at wikisource:Help:Beginner's guide to adding texts. You can also ask for Wikisource-specific help at Wikisource:Scriptorium. clpo13(talk) 23:41, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

File move from file historyEdit

Sometimes a file history (on a File: page) contains some significally distinct "versions", that are worth moving into new separate pages.

  1. Should they be downloaded and reuploaded manually, or maybe there is some automatic moving tool?
  2. Would those "automatically moved" original file revisions stay in the original file history (i. e., it's not a move, but a copy), or could they be moved out of the original history automatically (i. e., it's really a move or renaming)? --Djadjko (talk) 00:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
  • No overall answer, but keep in mind that often when this happens, if the uploaders differ, the license granted is pretty dubious for any but the first image uploaded. - Jmabel ! talk 00:43, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
From this point of view, the simplest solution turns out to be asking the mistaken uploader to manually reupload their file, followed by reverting the original affected file :) --Djadjko (talk) 23:35, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

How to rename a file?Edit


Please tell me how to rename files? If it matters, I uploaded the file(s) and am their author. I was able to rename the descriptions, but not the files themselves. Thanks! X4n6 (talk) 10:29, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) @X4n6: Hello, to rename files, you need to be a filemover first. You may request the right at COM:RFR, but for now, please use {{rename}} on your files and me (I am a filemover) or another filemover will be happy to rename them. Thanks, Poké95 10:33, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Upload a Picture onto Wikimedia CommonsEdit

I got permission from two people on Flickr to use their photos. How do I upload it onto Wikimedia Commons if it still says that the pictures are "All Rights Reserved", or if there is no souce name? Bryson483 (talk) 19:24, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

You should get those two users to change the flickr license or they should e-mail Commons:OTRS. Ruslik (talk) 20:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Something apparently in TurkishEdit

Setenay hukuk felsefesi derlemeler.Hukuku sadece norm kural boyutuna indirgeyen kuru bir anlayış toplumsal kabuller bakımından hiçbir zaman yeterli olmamıştır. Kuralların aynı zamanda adaleti yerine getirmeye hizmet etmesi aranmıştır. Bu noktada hukukun yardımına felsefe koşmuş kuralların anlam kazanması ve değer ifade edebilmesi hukuk felsefesiyle mümkün olabilmiştir. Terim olarak hukukun, olumlu çağrışımlarına rağmen adaleti seyrek lütfetmesiyle soğuk bir ulviliği de var.Temenniler serisi madde madde sıralanmışken, koşullar yine o maddeleri yok sayabilir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eksıoglu (talk • contribs) 21:41, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Users' categories with Quality ImagesEdit

Is there any automatic tool that updates the category with Quality Images of a particular user (like --ViseMoD (talk) 15:30, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

if i edit someone else's work, may i upload it?Edit

ii looked for normal spur route signs on wikipedia, but i couldn't find any, do i found an image on the internet of a spur route sign with a state route sign, i cropped the state route sign out, and i made a spur route sign image, and i want to upload it to wikimedia commons, but it was someone else's work and i edited it, so can i upload it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nite9893 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Generally no, unless you have a permission of the author of the original work. Ruslik (talk) 18:40, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

How to upload my photos from my PCsEdit

When i am already logged in how to upload from my computer. Is there any uploader- or plug-in to browser? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haajee1934 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Please see Commons:First steps. LX (talk, contribs) 20:18, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Remove name from Vanished User uploadEdit

Hello -- Is there some avenue to have the name scrubbed from the history of this: File:Pftp-99.png. Regards, Leonhard Fortier (talk) 00:47, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

  • Convenience link: File:Pftp-99.png. - Jmabel ! talk 04:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm confused: it's under a CC-BY-SA license that requires that a certain person be attributed as the author, and you want that author's name removed? That doesn't seem legally possible. - Jmabel ! talk 04:37, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment it seems the user name is anonymised. If that need to be required on files too, please contact the email address mentioned at Commons:Oversighters. Its up to them to accept it or not. and better no public discussion here as it may destroy the purpose. (Removing from the "File history" maybe very difficult.) Jee 05:27, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Using an image for a wikipedia pageEdit

I have uploaded the images associated with the link below but am not sure about its 'Category'. I have looked at the FAQ but this did not help me. Could someone advise me please on how to upload the image to the page under projection "Cajal Legacy Group"? D. Becker and D. Rossi B0000107 Purkinje cell. Wellcome Images available under the following creative commons usage

I am used to citing scientific references using Endnote or Refman and find the Wikipedia system very confusing. I would appreciate any suggestions. Kind regards Patsy Armati — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armati55 (talk • contribs) 05:26, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

@Armati55: I have added Category:Purkinje cells and Category:Immunostaining images to File:Purkinje cells.jpg. However NC and ND CC licenses are not allowed in Commons (Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses). Your image will be deleted unless you change that. The image currently has CC-BY-SA license which contradicts the source text. MKFI (talk) 08:50, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

uploading old photos as fair useEdit

I have been trying unsuccessfully to upload WWI and WWII photos to commons, under the fair use grounds. I can not find on the upload steps the fair use option. Any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwisheriff (talk • contribs) 05:49, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Fair use is not allowed. Old images may be in public domain by now however. WW1 images published pre-1923 are certainly in public domain. WW2 images may be in public domain depending on the country (UK government crown copyright has expired, US government images are always in public domain, Australian copyright term for photographs has exipred, Finnish copyright term for photographs has expired, the author may have been dead for more than 70 years etc.) See Commons:Copyright rules by territory. MKFI (talk) 08:42, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Utility ConceptEdit

Αξιότιμοι κύριοι, κυρίες

Σας ευχαριστώ πολύ για τη δυνατότητα που μου δίνετε για να υπερασπιστώ αυτά που γράφω

Κατ'αρχή σέβομαι απόλυτα τη κρίση σας.. Για να επιλέξετε το κείμενο που σας έστειλα για διαγραφή έχετε τους λόγους σας Εδώ θέλω τώρα να κατανοήσω αυτούς τους λόγους Είναι λόγοι ουσίας περιεχομένου, ή λόγοι που έχουν να κάνουν με τη παρουσίαση αυτού Αν συμβαίνει το πρώτο, τότε μάλλον δεν θα έχω καμιά τύχη και άρα το κείμενο αποσύρεται Αν όμως η κρίση σας έχει να κάνει με τη μορφή που παρουσιάζεται, τότε μπορούν να διορθωθούν πολλά Το κείμενο -ως μέρος βιβλίου- στάλθηκε σε σας, για πρώτη φορά.. και θα ήταν κρίμα να ξεκινήσει έτσι Ομ. Καθ Παπακωνσταντινίδης —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 18:50, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

  • I don't read much Greek; it looks like this may be an on-topic response to something here, but I have no idea what. Does someone have context? - Jmabel ! talk 19:13, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

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Upload problemEdit

Hello I had just uploaded many photos today, like the latest File:09862jfBarangays Paseo del Congreso Barasoain Malolos Cityfvf 19.jpg[, however, just an hour, the Upload wizzard turn red and says DSCN9023.JPG The server responded with an invalid JSON document. This could be a problem with the API, or you could be using a proxy server that prevents you from uploading files. None of the uploads were successful, please help me, I also used the debug but also failed, I am using Google Chrome and also tried Mozilla but failed, what is the problem please help me, sincerely --Judgefloro 15:51, 17 October 2016 (UTC) (talk)

Note: Thanks, I think it is now working, I tried Commons and Upload wizzard sincerely --Judgefloro 16:30, 17 October 2016 (UTC) (talk)
@Judgefloro: There was a short outage yesterday which prevented users from editing pages, uploading files and performing other actions through the API. Details should be posted in this thread when they're available: – everything should be back to normal now. Matma Rex (talk) 18:47, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your message and help; I am experiencing another problem recentely with Google Chrome I am using; I could not open Wikimedia or Wikipedia for it says my computer or internet connection is not private; Wikipedia opens with 2 red bars in the upper http saying, I might be hacked; yesterday I used Google chrome by putting off and on my internet; actually I bought this 2 years ago, and I never experienced this, so I tried and now using Mozilla, and now I can open and Upload in Wikipedia; thanks and sincerly --Judgefloro 10:48, 19 October 2016 (UTC) (talk)
Notes II Good morning; Google chrome goes on and off for Wikipedia; more often these 2 days, I could not open Wikimedia or wikimedia, for what appears is the fake with 2 red lines in the http saying if I go on with the Wikimedia, my passwords etc. may be hacked; as you see my upload I donated a tTotal edit count: 548,917 as of Oct19 and just these 2 days, Google chrome says my internet connection is not private etc., however, Mozilla I used is quite very slow and my computer somehow hangs, unlike Google Chrome, I will try Opera, I am just reporting these to let us know if there is a problem with Google Chrome and Wikipedia and Wikimedia opening thanks --Judgefloro 14:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC) (talk)
@Judgefloro: When did that happen? If it was around a week ago, it was an issue with our TLS certificate provider. Read the details at wikitech:Incident documentation/20161013-GlobalSign. Matma Rex (talk) 06:35, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks again; actually, I remember that 2 years ago more or less, here in Internet cafes in Baliuag, Bulacan, when I had no Internet connection and just pay slow cafes to upload, there were many Computers but not all which had problems with Google Chrome, displaying 2 reds in https in Wikipedia Wikimedia; this happened again when I sent this message with you, and Firefox was Ok; but yesterday and now, Google chrome seems OK to open Wikimedia and Wikipedia but I notice a somewhat slow opening, I do not know if it is because of my PC or memory etc., I did not change my Computer settings since Firefox opens Wikipedia but Firefox is rather slow and affects memory especially in Wizzard here, sincerely --Judgefloro 13:47, 21 October 2016 (UTC) (talk)

Matma Rex on Firefox massage appeared to me today! :/ On Chrome appears 3 hours ore more, and never ends, and it's difficult to save pages in Firefox for me. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 01:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Voting for challenge photosEdit

How and where do I vote for photos in the monthly photo challenges? Thanks, Knobby983 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knobby983 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Currently there are two open challenges: Commons:Photo_challenge/2016_-_September_-_Arthropods/Voting and Commons:Photo_challenge/2016_-_September_-_Local_culture/Voting. Just add you your vote to images that you like. Ruslik (talk) 20:12, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Additional categories for peopleEdit

Hi, I am uploading images of bishops. I see that existing images in the category of bishop include the additional categories of persons with similar last name, first name, year born and year died. Are these categories added by a bot, or would I have to add them for each? Thanks, Drbones1950 (talk) 18:03, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

They are usually added manually. Ruslik (talk) 20:16, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

ThanksDrbones1950 (talk) 01:00, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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Possible deletion of image file: File:Purchase decision model.jpgEdit

Re: File:Purchase decision model.jpg

I have been notified that the above file is about to be deleted and have been asked to provide a source and the name of the book that it was scanned from.

1. It was not scanned from any book. Instead the image was created by me using Photoshop (as stated at the time of upload).\

2. The source for the concepts contained in the diagram was the relevant Wikipage (Consumer Behaviour) - i.e. the headings and sub-headings -organised into logical categories and with an attempt to illustrate the relationship between key concepts.

3. The relevant Wikipage (Consumer Behaviour) formerly had a table (columns and rows) with similar information, but unfortunately the table was corrupted and the column headings and information in the columns was not aligned, with the result that it was potentially misleading. After working on the table for several hours and unable to get it to work correctly, I decided to delete it and replace it with the diagram. So, although many of the ideas are taken from a previous edition of the relevant Wikipage, the way that they are presented is novel.

4. In my humble opinion, the diagram is superior to the previous table in that it demonstrates relationships between key ideas in a manner that cannot be replicated by a simple table.

5. The concepts contained in this diagram are well-known and widely canvassed in a variety of texts. I have come across all of these concepts previously across a 40 year career as a professional marketer and educator. There are no real surprises - but I doubt that these concepts have been organised in precisely this manner in any published work.

Two other images created by me using Photoshop and placed on relevant Wikipages have already been deleted. One of these contain ideas organised in novel ways - but because I went to the trouble of providing a source for the original ideas (not for the diagram), the image was deleted. (The original authors never produced a diagram but simply discussed the concepts, but I combined two different parts of their article in an original way, again with an emphasis on relationships).

What I infer from all this activity is that diagrams can never acceptable, photographs are preferred. If the diagram provides a source, it is deleted immediately. If the diagram does not contain a source, I will be given a request for a source, which presumably will earmark the diagram for deletion just as soon as it is supplied! (I have noticed other diagrams on Wiki pages. How ever do they get them through the net??????)

What about if I used post-it notes to write these ideas out by hand and carefully arranged them on an interesting background, and then took a photo of them? Would that be acceptable?

BronHiggs (talk) 20:58, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

  • @BronHiggs: I'm not sure why you posted this on the Help desk, since you don't seem to be asking for any assistance.
  • @BronHiggs: You can always turn any sort of speedy delete into a regular deletion review discussion. I'm guessing you didn't know how to do that. Would you like me to do that for you?
  • @Ellin Beltz: You tagged this; offhand, I don't see any problem with the user's statement that it is the user's own work. Any actual issue here? If you did this in error, you can just remove the tag and we wouldn't need a DR. - Jmabel ! talk 23:25, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Need Guidance on CopyrightEdit

I really need guidance on developing images using Photoshop.

I have heaps of ideas for diagrams and flowcharts that help to explain concepts. But it takes hours to produce this sort of material, but I wonder if there is really any point if the diagrams are just going to be deleted after I finish them and upload them.

So my original question was: "What about if I draw the ideas on blank paper, and than take a photo of them?" Would that be more acceptable than a diagram worked up in Photoshop.

BronHiggs (talk) 00:12, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

BTW I am relatively new to Wikipedia, and have no idea what you are talking about most of the time — Preceding unsigned comment added by BronHiggs (talk • contribs) 00:13, 18 October 2016 (UTC) e.g. I do not know what is meant by "turn any sort of speedy delete into a regular deletion review discussion"

  1. There is nothing wrong with using Photoshop (or pretty much any other tool) to develop a diagram. In general, that would be preferable to a hand-drawn image.
  2. The fact that someone proposed your image for deletion does not necessarily mean it will be deleted. As I said above, I think she's wrong in this case. Given that you apparently don't understand the procedures, I'll take this in hand myself and follow the usual process. You'll probably see a note on your talk page that I've proposed the image for deletion. That doesn't mean I want it deleted, it means I'm setting up a proper place to discuss Ellin's request for deletion instead of just having it proceed. - Jmabel ! talk 02:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Another Creative Commons license questionEdit

Hi, I found an image on another site that I would like to upload. It says "Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives license". Is this suitable for use on Wikimedia? Drbones1950 (talk) 17:34, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Please see COM:L. Wikimedia Commons only allows file that are free for any use, including derivative works and commercial use. --rimshottalk 19:10, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
In other words: no. We can't accept either "Non-Commercial" or "No Derivatives" licenses. - Jmabel ! talk 22:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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Problems uploading a file, thumbnail generationEdit

File:Winterville Aerial View HRoe 2016.jpg I'm not sure why, but am having troubles with this. File fails to generate a thumbnail, although if you click on the blank thumbnail it takes you too the image page which appears fine. Another user was able to fix the same problem on another file earlier by re uploading it themselves I think, but they have since logged off and not returned. Can someone help with this? Have never encountered this before and am really not sure what to do. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 22:53, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

This looks like a problem specific to this file, and won't be solved by reuploading. I can reproduce this on my local testing wiki too. I'll look into it. Matma Rex (talk) 00:28, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Any help would be appreciated. I'm not sure why it's doing this. I've uploaded numerous files here before, but I have been rather inactive as of late. Has something changed? I'm not doing anything different on my end. Any suggestions would also be helpful. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 02:30, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
That image has a quite complicated EXIF info generated by photoshop. Our image thumbnailer has had problems with similar images in the past. MKFI (talk) 06:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
@Heironymous Rowe: Thumbnail generation was failing because MediaWiki fails to read the width and height of the image. (And we need to know the original dimensions to thumbnail the file proportionally.) The file is technically not a valid JPEG file, it contains some garbage data between the JPEG sections (which include e.g. EXIF metadata, or the actual image data; see w:JPEG#Syntax_and_structure); it seems that most image viewers and browsers simply ignore it and display the file, but both MediaWiki's metadata extractor and PHP's getimagesize() function are strict and treat this as an invalid file. I've already submitted a patch for MediaWiki, I'll probably work on one for PHP too.
@MKFI: Do you have any examples of other affected files? It would be helpful to determine the priority of this issue (is it just one file out of 30 million, or is it a common issue?).
(The file was replaced with a different version that doesn't have the problem, but you can still see it with the old versions.) Matma Rex (talk) 02:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Problem seems to be resolved, as I uploaded several files today with no problems what so ever. I'm not sure why those files glitched, I didn't do anything differently with them than the others. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
@Matma Rex: one example from 2013: File:Waterfall in Tivoli, by Johann Martin von Rohden (1778 - 1868).jpg. Not very common issue to my knowledge. MKFI (talk) 06:48, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I looked into it and this is already fixed in PHP, so I just had to port the patch to HHVM. This will be resolved for all images when they get around to merging the patch, and we get around to upgrading out version of HHVM. This might take a couple weeks, but it'll eventually happen :) Matma Rex (talk) 23:31, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


Nach dem erfolgreichen Hochladen von Fotos und eines Renderings wollte ich ein Tortendiagramm hochladen. Commons ließ dies aus Urheberrechten nicht zu. Ich besitze jedoch die Urheberrechte des Diagramms! Warum verwehrt Commons das Hochladen bzw. wie kann ich dies richtig stellen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BBT SE (talk • contribs) 13:06, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

  • (I don't follow the above well enough to respond—can't make sense of what the issue is—but I believe a Tortendiagramm is a "pie chart" if someone else can help out.) - Jmabel ! talk 15:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC))
    The problem is that the uploader ran into Special:AbuseFilter/156. Saving and uploading the diagram in a format more suitable for diagrams, such as SVG or PNG, should avoid the problem. LX (talk, contribs) 17:58, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
    @BBT SE: Verstehen Sie? Ob nicht, jemand traduzieren kann. - Jmabel ! talk 19:10, 19 October 2016 (UTC)


Hallo! Ich habe unter Category:Forests Dateien in passendere (genauere) Kategorien verschoben. Zu meiner Überraschung fand ich in der oben angegebenen Datei einen Vorschlag zur Umbenennung (Diese Datei wurde zur Umbenennung vorgeschlagen durch Hiddenhauser...), der angeblich von mir eingefügt wurde. Mal abgesehen davon, dass ich gar nicht weiß wie das geht, steht auch in der Versionsgeschichte nichts davon. Ich wollte die Vorlage entfernen, aber sie steht nicht auf der Bearbeitenseite. Kann da mal einer nachsehen der sich auskennt und das Ding rausnehmen. Zumal die Umbenennung überflüssig ist. Grüße, --Hiddenhauser (talk) 13:28, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Da war die Vorlage {{move}} [nicht durch dich] eingebunden, die bei Dateien aber gar nicht verwendet werden soll. --Magnus (talk) 14:11, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Super, Danke! Ich verstehe zwar nicht wie mein Name da ins Spiel kommt, aber jetzt ist es ja ok. Gruß,--Hiddenhauser (talk) 14:15, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Uploading a whole bookEdit

I have located a digitized book online that is copyright expired, and the only request of the webmaster of the site in which it appears is that credit be given to the site as the provider of the material. Given that, how do I upload a whole book? Can I use the Upload Wizard? Drbones1950 (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Virginia Film Office Logo.jpgEdit

I'm seeing strange behavior with this image. If you look at the image and its description page, it's an all black image. If I view it at 270x240, it's all black. Same for 541x480 and 865x768. Yet, at 1154x1024, it resolves with text over the background black, and does so with 1343x1192 as well. Can someone explain this? --Hammersoft (talk) 20:31, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

  • @Stephendwyerstudios: (pinging the uploader to this conversation). --Hammersoft (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
  • @Hammersoft: Hello, it seems that this is because the image is CMYK-colorcoded, and we have a known issue about this. If you can, please convert this image to RGB to correct this problem (pinging User:Túrelio since he can fix CMYK JPG images). Thanks, Poké95 01:56, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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How long after photos are uploaded, will they appear in the designated page....example CN Tower

Thank you

W.B. Grice — Preceding unsigned comment added by William B. Grice (talk • contribs) 20:39, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Items in archive.orgEdit

Is it permissible to upload a cropped image of one of the pages at this location: specifically page n1379 or thereabouts (p835 Nov 30th 1922)

The original I presume would be out of copyright (UK 1922) while the photo image appears to be offered within the public domain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blacktav (talk • contribs) 23:14, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

How to use Cat-a-lotEdit


Somewhere I saw directions for using Cat-a-lot, but now I can't find them. Is there a help page for using it? I just used it and it moved only two images and said there was no category for the others, though all were going to the same cat. What am I doing wrong?

Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot. Does that help?Drbones1950 (talk) 23:46, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Hard to understand though. Guess I will fiddle with it. For the future, where is that help page located? I searched for it and got nowhere. Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalbbes (talk • contribs)
No need to search, just click on the link he provided. - Jmabel ! talk 04:50, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I will bookmark that link. But I can't figure out how to move images from one cat to another, even though I am careful to create the cat first. There is something I am not understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalbbes (talk • contribs)
The section of the linked article "Moving files between categories, and removing files from a category" describes that in detail. If there is something unclear there, I suggest you use its talk page to ask about it, since any required clarification probably belongs in the article. - Jmabel ! talk 15:34, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

page removed by editorEdit

Dear colleague,

I edited the page "European Master's in Translation ", and included two pictures. I work for the European Commission, the pictures are the property of the European Commission, and it is my task to update this page. Now the pictures have been removed, and the page has reverted to its old, outdated and incorrect version.

Its history says:

03:50, 2 September 2016‎ CommonsDelinker (talk | contribs)‎ . . (4,932 bytes) (-69)‎ . . (Removing "Wheel_of_Competences.jpg", it has been deleted from Commons by Magog the Ogre because: Copyright violation, see c:Commons:Licensing.) (undo)

(cur | prev) 03:50, 2 September 2016‎ CommonsDelinker (talk | contribs)‎ . . (5,001 bytes) (-49)‎ . . (Removing "Logo_emt.jpg", it has been deleted from Commons by Magog the Ogre because: Fair use is not allowed on Commons.) (undo)

Can you help me to correct this, because it is not clear to me what I should do.

Thank you.

Fokke Sluiter — Preceding unsigned comment added by FSG12 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

  1. Given that you say "I work for the European Commission", have you seen en:Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure?
  2. In terms of uploading an image whose copyright is owned by a third party (even as an employee of the EC, you are considered a separate party from the EC) there are two possibilities. Assuming the EC owns the copyright, you can (1) indicate the relevant free license on a site clearly controlled by the EC (its own site or, for example, if it has an official Flickr photostream) or (2) follow the procedure laid out at COM:OTRS.
  3. At this point, for images that have already been undeleted, you might first try working with the deleting admin, but if there are any difficulties there, go to Commons:Undeletion requests. - Jmabel ! talk 15:41, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


Is there a help (or policy) page about images of banknotes? It would be good to add an advice (or a template?) to avoid uploading images of different banknotes via the "Upload a new version of this file" link (i. e., if your banknote differs from the one pictured in design, serial number or any other aspect, please upload it as a new file). --Djadjko (talk) 01:28, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

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File:Rwake re-release cover.jpg.Edit

Images were removed saying they were of derivative work. Can this be explained better of how they are and of what album? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hallow88 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Hallow88: Hello, that image was deleted since it is a derivative work of non-free material (which is the album cover). See COM:DW. A derivative work of a non-free material is non-free, and we don't accept non-free images (see COM:L). If you want this image to be restored, OTRS permission is needed from the copyright holder of the album, which is very unlikely in this case (since they use the album cover for profit, and making the album cover free would be a great loss for them). Thanks, Poké95 04:34, 22 October 2016 (UTC)