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"Ballet Nacionalista del estado Mérida va,guardia del Nacionalismo Artístico Danzario en Venezuela"
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Balletnacionalistamerida (talk • contribs) 08:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

API "NeedToken" ErrorEdit


I don't know if it's the right place for this, but here I am. I am trying to upload images to Wikimedia Commons using MWBot, a NPM Package, however even the simplest example simply refuses to work, I get a "NeedToken" error.

const MWBot = require('mwbot');

let bot = new MWBot();

const APIURL = ''; const USERNAME = 'username@botname'; const PASSWORD = 'long random string';


 apiUrl: APIURL,
 username: USERNAME,
 password: PASSWORD


 .then((response) => console.log('Response: %o', response))
 .catch(error => console.error('Login Error: %o', error));

And my error is simply : index.js:19 Login Error: Error: Could not login: NeedToken

This is running on a local server, and the only way to get the request to even work is to disable CORS using a chrome extension. Any ideas?

Thank you.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by KywimMedia (talk • contribs) 13:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Cannot login through the wikimedia API (bot account)Edit

Hello everyone, I'm currently working on the Open Yesterday project (more info here:, we want to add a feature that could permit to our users to directly upload their pictures about certain places onto wikimedia and then use the returned links to show them up on our application.

The thing is that i cannot figure out how to log into wikimedia with my bot account, we're using javascript, here's the code:

               let jsonLogInfo = JSON.parse(jsonInfo);
               let formData = new FormData();
               formData.append('action', 'login');
               formData.append('lgname', jsonLogInfo.loginInfo.lgname);
               formData.append('lgpassword', jsonLogInfo.loginInfo.lgpassword);
               formData.append('lgtoken', loginToken);
               formData.append('format', 'json');
               var options = {
                   method: 'POST',
                   body: formData,
                   cache: 'no-cache',
                   credentials: 'include'    
               fetch(apiURL, options)
               .then(response => response.json())
               .then(response => JSON.stringify(response))
               .catch(error => console.log(error));

I'm getting redirected to the API help webpage each time (the loginToken is generated with another request)

Can someone figure out what is going wrong ?

Thank you for your time,

Open Yesterday team
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Byoa (talk • contribs) 14:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Uploading a picture via the APIEdit

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to upload a picture via the API, i'm making my API POST request like this:

               let file = document.getElementById('files').files[0];
               var formData = new FormData();
               formData.append("action", "upload");
               formData.append('format', 'json');
               formData.append("file", file);
               formData.append("token", CSRFToken);
               formData.append('ignorewarning', 1);
               fetch(apiURL, {
                   method: 'POST',
                   headers: {
                       "Content-Type": "multipart/form-data"
                   credentials: 'include',
                   body: formData

I think the problem is my file field: I don't know in which format i should upload it.

Thanks in advance for your help.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Byoa (talk • contribs) 14:50, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Авторские праваEdit

Пытаюсь загрузить фотографию, отсканированную из семейного альбома, её удаляют за нарушение авторских прав. Повторно загрузить не удаётся. Как загрузить?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by FdXs4NXQ2v6nnvqw (talk • contribs) 19:09, 30 July 2019‎ (UTC)

هل يمكنني ان ارفع صوره تابعه لي وانا مالك الصورهEdit

هل استطيع ان ارفع ملف وسائط هي صوره وانا مالكها
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fadelalamari (talk • contribs) 04:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
@Fadelalamari: نعم بالتأكيد، لا يوجد ما يمنع ذلك. فقط إضغط على زر رفع الملفات و اتبع التعليمات. --Tarawneh (talk) 20:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Photograph of a publicly visible memorial plaqueEdit

What can I upload to Wikimedia Commons? suggests that I can only upload my photographs of art, statues and buildings over 150 years old. Can you confirm that this means that I may not upload my own photograph of a memorial plaque dated 1990 on private land visible from a public highway (in the UK)? AlanS1951 (talk) 19:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

@AlanS1951: Please see COM:FOP UK.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 21:03, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@AlanS1951: FOP-UK only applies to things "in" a public place rather than "visible from" a public place. However, the plaque may be below the threshold of originality depending on its content. If it's just explanatory text without any discernible creative input, it may be eligible here. You'd have to upload it so we can make a judgement. Rodhullandemu (talk) 23:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, both. I have now uploaded to File:Plaque_at_site_of_Chipley_Priory.jpg. AlanS1951 (talk) 09:22, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@AlanS1951: I've added some categories for you. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with that not acquiring a copyright because it consists only of facts in the public domain and very simple and ancient designs. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:29, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@Rodhullandemu: Thank you for the useful categories. To say that all the facts recorded are "in the public domain", are we relying on the fact that the plaque has been publicly visible since 1990? AlanS1951 (talk) 09:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@AlanS1951: Sorry, perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I meant that facts that are common knowledge (or readily ascertainable) do not have copyright. The length of time a creative work has been visible usualy has no bearing on copyright. It's the manner of representation that might attain copyright. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:51, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@Rodhullandemu: Thank you for your reply. Just to keep you updated, I didn't think that we could safely assume that all the facts recorded were common knowledge prior to publication on the plaque, or that they had been readily ascertainable elsewhere (as I didn't have time to attempt to check on Web and/or by visiting County Records Office), so I have contacted the Clopton Family Association to ask if they assert copyright on any of the information.
I am awaiting a considered response, but the initial response was “unless and until you hear otherwise, please act on the premise that the information recorded as it is in its entirety on the plaque - and therefore reproduced as it would be on any photograph - is held in full copyright by our association”. If this remains their position, I will explain your position and ask which specific portions of the information they believe to be original creative content that have acquired copyright.
In the meantime, I am reluctant to ask you to delete the file pending re-upload, as it took me quite a while to work out what to write at each stage of the upload process, but you may wish to do so anyway. AlanS1951 (talk) 20:27, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@AlanS1951: Sorry, I have to disagree with them. Facts themselves cannot be subject to copyright, "common knowledge" or not. All these facts are, or could be, readily ascertainable from historical records of the church and elsewhere. Neither does organising facts in a particular way create any copyright. The only right that might be relevant is a en:wp:Database right when they are held in electronic form. Here they are not (although they may be elsewhere), but that does not arise since the Wikimedia servers are in the United States, whose law does not recognise database right. I would ignore them and hope they go away, they are either optimistic, badly advised or bluffing and I see no reason to delete this image as things stand at present. As for the other design elements of the plaque, they are either too simple to acquire copyright or are of such antiquity that they have never acquired copyright status, i.e. are public domain. Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu: I'm happy to accept your opinion, as I could use the file in a Wikipedia article, leaving you to deal with any flak from the Association!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AlanS1951 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
I should point out that I'm no longer a lawyer any more than I am a real doctor! Rodhullandemu (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Use of a movie frameEdit

An author has published a frozen photogram of a documentary made in 1933, as a proof of an action nobody has notice before.

Is it possible tu upload the picture in a Wikipedia page? Thanks!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Demetrio E. Brisset (talk • contribs) 16:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Can you be more specific? Ruslik (talk) 16:33, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

I made a digital photo of a frame of a 1933 documentary, whose productor died in 1936.

I published it in a book and a scientific journal on internet. It illustrates an important action in the film, unnoticed to spectators due to its very short length.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilarion1 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Hilarion1: In what countries was the documentary produced and first published, and what years were those events?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 13:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
In Spain, event happens in 1933
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilarion1 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Hilarion1: Thanks. Sorry, you may not upload it to Commons because it was still copyrighted in Spain on 1 January 1996 (59 years into the 80 year pma term at the time), so the URAA put it under copyright in the US for 95 years from publication, through 2028 per en:Wikipedia:Non-U.S. copyrights. If Spanish Wikipedia had an EDP which allowed local uploads regardless of US copyright, you could upload there.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilarion1 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikimania 2019 logo.pngEdit

Hi, I used this file and I added white background. Is this file under correct licence? --Patriccck (talk) 11:19, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Original autor is @BFlores (WMF): (ping) --Patriccck (talk) 11:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
And what about this file? It this file published under correct licence? --Patriccck (talk) 18:21, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
The licenses are ok, but I don't think you would get your own copyright for adding a white background. Effectively this is what you get automatically when you export the SVG to a raster format without transparency. De728631 (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Request for file/figure deletion of Piskacek Figures v9b and Chapter 9aaTAD on Activation domain pageEdit

Please delete my own work from wiki.

User Artoria2e5 rewrote 9aaTAD in to mocking term acid-9aaTAD, what is harmful parody because 9aaTAD opposes need of acid residues especially in representative of the acidic ADs as is the Gal4 (Activation domain page). The figure should not assist them to harm. moreover, they suppose the content of the figure (AD binding to KIX, Piskacek Figures v9b) as definition for activation domains, what is also completely wrong. User Artoria2e5 continue with mocking on Gal4 page too.

I request immediately withdraw of all my contribution (all my text and my figure), because of harmful modification, from now correctly called “Transcription domain” page (previously oddly named “Transactivating domain”)

Thank you very much,

Martin Piskacek
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Piskacek (talk • contribs) 15:22, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Piskacek: Please see COM:DR.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Piskacek: I suspect that if you link the files where you feel something inappropriate occurred, we can sort things out. Without that, we haven't a chance. The only thing I can see [User:Artoria2e5]] doing to any related image is adding a category. - Jmabel ! talk 16:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Copyright for old postcardsEdit


may I upload a scan of an illustration appearing on an old postcard (1915)?


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnpg (talk • contribs) 15:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Shawnpg: What is the postcard's country of origin?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:31, 14 August 2019 (UTC)


Do I have to have a copyright to upload my work to Wikipedia Commons?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Estar8806 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Estar8806: Hi, and welcome. Yes, but you have it automatically for each work you created since 1978.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC)


how to apply your information on Wikimedia.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gasana claude (talk • contribs) 19:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Gasana claude: Hi, and welcome. Please see en:Help:Pictures.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

New sectionEdit

Page notice
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediational (talk • contribs) 21:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Mediational: Hi, and welcome. Please be more specific.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 22:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

uploaded photoEdit

I uploaded a jpg photo of a certificate "GAR Aide-de-camp" to the commons for the Grand Army of the Republic but I don't see it. When I tried re-loading it today, the message said it was a duplicate.

Joe Vignos
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimishillen (talk • contribs) 03:33, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@Nimishillen:Your file is actually here. You may check your uploads by using Special:ListFiles, and type in your user name. You can also check your uploads by accessing your user talk page, and there should be a link to all of your uploads at the left-hand corner, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 04:58, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Question regarding uploadingEdit

Пытаюсь загрузить фотографию, разрешение на использование мне предоставили, могу передать вам подтверждение. Повторно загрузить не удаётся. Как загрузить? Спасибо

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ip190684 (talk • contribs) 08:06, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Смотрите Commons:OTRS/ru. Ruslik (talk) 14:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Junior high schools in TaiwanEdit

Sometimes people misunderstand the use of the "Junior high schools in Taiwan" category. In fact, Taiwan generally uses junior high schools for middle schools rather than high schools. I discussed this with User:そらみみ two weeks ago(see here), I also remembered the discussion from last year at User talk:Russian Rocky(see here). What I want to ask is: What will we have to do in order to avoid misunderstanding?--Kai3952 (talk) 11:57, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

If "secondary school" is synonymous with "junior high school", then we should not put it in Category:High schools in Taiwan.--Kai3952 (talk) 12:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
"junior high school" and "middle school" are nearly synonyms in common American English usage. Both always include grades 7 & 8; a "middle school" may contain grade 6, a "junior high school" may include grade 9.
Sticking for the moment to American English usage: we consider only our high schools (either grades 9-12 or 10-12) to be "secondary schools".
Does that make it easier to map the Taiwan cases to this terminology? - Jmabel ! talk 00:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Are you talking about the American education system? In Taiwan, a junior high school for students grade 7 (age 12–13) through grade 9 (age 14–15); and senior high school, for students from grade 10 (age 15–16) to 12 (age 17–18). Is there no problem if I do it(add "High schools in Taiwan" on the bottom of "Junior high schools in Taiwan" category page)?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:13, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Again, I can only speak for the U.S. Here, at least, "high school" and "senior high school" are synonyms. - Jmabel ! talk 15:43, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
So what about "junior high school"?--Kai3952 (talk) 19:55, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand your question. As I said above, more or less interchangeable with "middle school," except that it can often include grade 9 and almost never includes grade 6. What is unclear? - Jmabel ! talk 21:08, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

copyright issueEdit

can i use a company's logo picture without asking them or is it a form of plagiarism
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Smitpshah17 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
"Plagiarism" and "copyright violation" are two overlapping but different issues, and permission is relevant only to copyrights:
  1. "Plagiarism" means passing off someone else's work as your own. It is a moral question of intellectual honesty, not a legal matter.
  2. "Copyright violation" means using copyrighted material without permission. Copyright is a matter of law.
  3. Also, although you don't mention it, there is another relevant body of law: trademarks
So, to cover the possible cases in terms of company logos:
Consider a very simple logo (just text, typography, and maybe very simple geometric shapes). It cannot be copyrighted, though it may be trademarked.
  1. If you pass off the logo as your own work, or if you design a very similar logo based on this logo, arguably you would be plagiarizing.
  2. Also, if the logo is trademarked and you fail to acknowledge the trademark, you could be violating trademark law. On Commons, we handle that simply by applying the {{Trademark}} template.
  3. There is no copyright to violate.
Now consider a more complicated logo, which can be copyrighted; unless it is very old (e.g. a Proctor and Gamble logo from the 1800s) it almost certainly is copyrighted. For a copyrighted work:
  1. The plagiarism question is exactly the same as above.
  2. The trademark question is exactly the same as above.
  3. In addition, if you use it without the company's permission, you are violating their copyright.
- Jmabel ! talk 16:00, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


— Preceding unsigned comment added by RCROSSROADS (talk • contribs) 17:38, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@RCROSSROADS: Welcome to Wikimedia Commons! The usual way to contact a user is to write on the user's talk page. Links to that appear in most places where the user's name appears (for instance, mine is at User talk:Bjh21 and is linked from my signature). The "Add topic" link at the top of the talk page will allow you to add a new message. Note that anything you write on a user's talk page is visible to everyone. If you want to get in touch with a user privately, you might find an "Email this user" link in the left sidebar on their talk page. This will only be there if they've allowed other users to contact them by email, though. --bjh21 (talk) 18:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
For the "Email this user" link to show up, both the sender and the receiver must have provided an email address. It looks like RCROSSROADS hasn't done that. LX (talk, contribs) 21:50, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Uploaded Picture needs to go on webpageEdit

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia, I just signed up today.

I already uploaded a picture of Toronto that I took from Toronto Island onto Wikipedia. Now I need to get that picture onto the Wikipedia page that sais Toronto. I thought I copied and paisted the picture on the Toronto Wikipedia page correctly but I still don't see the picture on the webpage.

Here is the link I pasted:   
A view of Toronto from Toronto Island
 can anyone give me some help? Thanks 
 Kind Regards 
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Travelmodel777 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Travelmodel777: Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, and thank you for the picture! You didn't edit the page you thought you were editing. You successfully added the picture to c:Toronto, which is the gallery page here on Wikimedia Commons about Toronto. You'll notice it has lots of pictures but not many words. You probably wanted instead to add it to en:Toronto, which is the article about Toronto on English Wikipedia. --bjh21 (talk) 18:30, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
PS: I've straightened your picture up a bit. I hope you don't mind. If you do mind, you can undo my change by going to File:A view of Toronto from Toronto Island.jpg and choosing "revert" in the "File history" section towards the bottom of the page. --bjh21 (talk) 18:38, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Sarna photo Teahouse advice leads to challenging questionEdit

At WP:Teahouse I was told (

I don't know if you can link across the different language Wikipedias. I think if you right click to download it to your computer, and then upload it to commons with the upload wizard, and include in the permissions that it's a photo of a deceased person, you'll get a link that works. You could also include the link to the original file in the notes, and if there are any problems, someone in OTRS will help you straighten it out.

The Hebrew Wiki photo appears to be an old newspaper clipping photo (8K, pixilated), of someone who died in 1969; subject's age is middle-age, and Israeli law mentions something about 51 years.

Here's my dilemma: asks "Author(s) - The name of the person who took the photo, or painted the picture, drew the drawing, etc. (This field is required)"

The Hebrew wiki lacks that basic info. says (in English, below the Hebrew text) "This is a Fair use file." The Hebrew text on the "rights" tab's page specifically mentions (my translation) 'use in Wikipedia.'

WP:Teahouse instructed me to download and re-upload, and also to include "it's a photo of a deceased person." says ask if I need help.

Supplementary detail:

In looking for the name of who took the picture, I encounterd one screen with two circled orange "C"s: One was with a Hebrew sentence, one with a large letter "W" intertwined with it. From a basic self-translation, it looks like the picture is restricted to Wikipedia for regular use (ShiMush=use, HaGoon usually means normal or regular, but it has other meanings too). After saying "BeWikipedia" ("Be" prefix means in), it subsequently says what I read as 'about/in connection with' and then names the subject, (Rabbi) Yechezkel Sarna. Most suspiciously, despite the author declarations, next to the single Hebrew word MeKor (SOURCE) it has a question mark. I can't fill in the question as to who took the picture, so I can't follow the WP:Teahouse advice. A URL for a translation of the above-described file is My personal two cents is that this 8K (yes K, not Mb) file is from a newspaper, and from the appearance, meets the Israeli public domain laws. Also, for whatever it's worth, it appears that it exists in non-(Wiki)mirrors / online. The bottom says "Content is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 terms unless otherwise stated" but the Hebrew seems to be a possible, if not likely, "otherwise." Help? Pi314m (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Pi314m: Sorry, but we don't allow Fair Use here on Commons. If you want to use the file on English Wikipedia, please read WP:F.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Massive EXIF data removal or editingEdit

How can I massively remove or edit EXIF data from a large number of documents? Both Windows or Linux solutions are good for me.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

putting a photo into the public domainEdit

Hi, how do I put a photo into the public domain? Nocturnalnow (talk) 21:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Nocturnalnow: The best way is to use {{cc-zero}}. This is available under "Use a different license" in the "Release rights" step of the Upload Wizard. Of course, you can only do this if you are the copyright holder of the photo to begin with. LX (talk, contribs) 23:29, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Uploading figures from scientific publicationsEdit

Hi I am a member of a scientific collaboration, On behalf of the collaboration I have uploaded images to our experiment's wikipedia page. This involved uploading images from collaboration publications. I'm unsure about the requirements of the licensing, what would constitute "permission" for the use of the images?

Thanks in advance.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ArgonMan (talk • contribs) 23:16, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @ArgonMan: The simplest would be if you could make the grant of a free license visible in an online version of the publication that is under your control as copyright holder(s). Is that possible? If not, we can talk about other ways to address this. - Jmabel ! talk 01:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


How do I upload a picture?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikendgeria Girl 3 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Wikendgeria Girl 3: You follow the link that says Upload file (the first item under "Participate" in the menu on the left) and follow the instructions. LX (talk, contribs) 09:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

why Wikipedia not publish my pageEdit
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Osbertgill (talk • contribs) 09:58, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
@Osbertgill: Essentially because it has no sources at all. The purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what has been written about the subject elsewhere, so you need to say what sources you used when writing the article. Similarly, a company should only have a Wikipedia article if the company is notable, which roughly means that it must have a significant amount written about it by reliable, independent sources. The page en:Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) explains how this works for companies. If you have further questions, you should ask them on the help desk or Teahouse of English Wikipedia. This help desk is really for help with Wikimedia Commons rather than Wikipedia. --bjh21 (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
The OP was blocked on enwiki as a sock of spammer Deepkabir.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:52, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

upload stamp from RomaniaEdit


i would like to upload the stamp set Eve from this source. According to my interpretation of the rules of romania, stamps are in the public domain and therefore can be used here and uploaded. I should use this template, but i don't quite understand where in the upload proces and how i can use this template, so i would like some help. (by the way geerestein2 is my second account because i don't know the password for Geerestein)--Geerestein2 (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Geerestein2: If you use the Upload Wizard, in the "Release rights", select "This file is not my own work", enter appropriate source and authorship information, select "Another reason not mentioned above", select "The license is described by the following wikitext" and enter {{PD-RO-exempt}}. LX (talk, contribs) 16:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
it seemed to have worked, thanks!! --Geerestein2 (talk) 16:54, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Dachau: Time of closure ... ?Edit

Your page on Dachau says it was closed in 1960, yet I was stationed at the 8th Transportation Battalion's Oberschleißheim Hubschrauber Flugplatz, 5 miles from both München and Dachau, from December of '60 to June of '62. I was the battalion's Public Information Office photographer, under Captain M. C. Avery. I was told that Dachau was where the Quartermaster Laundry and Military Stockade were. How is this possible? —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 21:14, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

@ You have somehow ended up in the wrong place, I suggest asking at --ghouston (talk) 01:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

What is the difference between "blocked road" and "closed road"?Edit

I am not sure what is the difference between "Category:Blocked roads" and "Category:Closed roads", but I suspect that when these categories are used, they are used to refer to the roads where vehicles cannot pass.--Kai3952 (talk) 23:34, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

The difference is pretty subtle, but (as a non-native speaker), I'd say that closed roads carries connotations of (typically public) roads that have been officially closed off to traffic (especially motorised traffic) with signs and often some type of fence or barrier designed for the purpose, while blocked roads carries connotations of roads with accidental or deliberate obstacles (boulders, trees, vehicles). For example, a road could be blocked by a landslide and then closed by authorities to prevent vehicles from entering a dangerous dead end. As another example, a land owner might block a private road using boulders to prevent or discourage unauthorised access, but that doesn't really constitute a road closure. LX (talk, contribs) 00:01, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
To me "blocked" would be temporary. With "closed" the intent would be permanent. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Roads can be temporarily closed due to accidents, events, etc. What LX wrote is how I understand it too. --ghouston (talk) 02:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
And what is that, specifically (I believe it can be stated briefly and much moire clearly)?
  1. Closed = ? (in 3-4 words)
  2. Blocked = ? (in 3-4 words).
Respectfully & still confusedly yours, --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:08, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
  1. Closed = Traffic officially prohibited permanently.
  2. Blocked = Unofficially impassible temporarily.
Of course, roads may be temporarily closed by officials for: the season; the Grand Prix; filming of a car commercial or a movie; a parade; school pickups or dropoffs during certain hours on school days; a police investigation; etc.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 17:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarity. Good to see you in action. Now if you'd reply to your e-mail I'd be almost perfectly happy.
@LX, Jeff G.: I'm sorry that I have a question again. I randomly picked a photo: File:Bradley Covered Bridge Center Street Lyndonville VT April 2019.jpg. "ROAD CLOSED" shown on the sign in the photo. This makes me confused about what "blocked road" is and is not.--Kai3952 (talk) 22:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kai3952: Ok, in this case the road was blocked by flooding, and then officials came and placed the "ROAD CLOSED" sign and cones.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 23:38, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Actually I am confused about the term "ROAD CLOSED" is written on the sign. That is to say, I don't understand why it is "ROAD CLOSED" instead of "ROAD BLOCKED"?--Kai3952 (talk) 04:14, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
A "ROAD BLOCKED" sign would be informational; this road is blocked. A "ROAD CLOSED" sign is a declaration; this road is not open to traffic. The officials don't want you on this road, so they put up the rod closed sign. The fact that it is blocked is the reason it's closed, but the sign isn't saying that you won't be able to get through, it's saying that you shouldn't go there, even if you can.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:23, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Kai3952: This would be a perfect example of the difference: a road is blocked when a tree falls over during a storm--something blocks you from driving over it. A road is closed when the local government deliberately shuts it down, puts up signs, suggests alternate routes, and does road maintenance. —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

As Ghouston remarked above: I don't think closed has to be permanent, just deliberate. Blocked would refer more to something that happened by accident. - Jmabel ! talk 01:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Template:Southerly ClubsEdit

Incidental question re
assistants etc

Or at least write to me & explain why you don't want to reply to the Southerly Clubs people. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@SergeWoodzing: Sorry, I agree with our official position that we need to hear directly from copyright holders about licensing of their works.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 19:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
OK thanks. So people who are assistants of and/or on assignment for the Southerly Clubs can not any more go in under that OTRS (1 of those deleted images) like we've been doing since it was established? Everyone who takes a photo for SC at SC request & with SC cameras and only to assist SC must all write directly to permissions now? Wives & siblings & children of board members, other members of our organizations? Where do we draw the line? (And wouldn't it have been better to discuss this directly with the SC board by e-mail?) --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Pinging @Jcb as ticketholder, Admin, and OTRS Admin. N.B. This concerns {{Southerly Clubs}} and Ticket:2010092510008875.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 20:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@SergeWoodzing: Yes, exactly. In principle every single photographer will have to send their permission. Copyright belongs to the photographer as a person, unless they agreed otherwise by means of a written contract. Jcb (talk) 20:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Would you please e-mail the Chairman at the address Jeff G. has and tell him exactly what the OTRS ticket says re: the scope of the permission there? He does not remember in detail & no longer has those old e-mails. It was many years ago. Whatever it is, it's been my impression that we've been trying to adhere as well as possible in good faith. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Please only use the OTRS mail addresses, I am not handling permissions via my private mail. Jcb (talk) 20:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jcb: I have 7 messages from them with headers, plus 2 attachments. How much do you want?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 21:05, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Everything that should be handled should be in the ticket. Jcb (talk) 21:13, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
I have now e-mailed the Chairman's address also to @Jcb:. What I'm asking is not that we must rehash the recently deleted images; I get it. SC needs to have confirmed exactly what is covered by their OTRS so we can (continue to) adhere strictly. I've been told that some kind of promise or guarantee was invloved then that all donated images would be w/o copyright. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jcb: Most was already there, you have 3 new articles 60-62.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 21:37, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

طلب رفع الملف في ويكيبيديا مصريEdit

السلام عليكم، أرجو منكم يا إدارة ويكيميديا كومنز، السماح لي برفع الملف في ويكيبيديا مصري، وأنا أعاهد نفسي على حفظ قوانين ويكيميديا كومنز من أجل المصلحة العامة والشفافية، وتحسين الموسوعة المصرية المباركة، وفقكم الله لكل خير.

حمدي الشافعي، الرياض.--حمدى10 (talk) 06:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dyolf, Tarawneh: Can you please check this request? De728631 (talk) 21:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@حمدى10: صديقي لا علاقة لمشروع كومنز هنا بما يحدث في ويكيبيديا المصرية. ذلك مشروع مستقل بالكامل و منفصل عنا هنا. لكن ربما يمكننا الحديث معهم وديا . هل يمكنك شرح الموضوع. --Tarawneh (talk) 19:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Printing in the 40'sEdit

First, let me say thank-you for your response in advance.

I have 2 questions.

Fist: I have a wood block about 1 inch wide with a thin sheet of "lead" on it with a negative type image that was used in 1950 in my small town to apparently print year books with student pictures. Almost looks like a picture negative that was imprinted on this lead and then placed on the wood block. I was looking for how this was done and possibly pictures and explanations on the internet. I will be glad to provide you pictures of what I am explaining.

Second: My friend in Michigan has a number of old printing press's, letters, plates, etc. has no idea of value. I assume if he wanted to sell he would just list them on Etsy or ebay... is that correct?

If you can help I certainly would appreciate.

<redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 13:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello. This is the help desk for Wikimedia Commons. We can only provide answers for questions related to contributing to this media repository and, to some extent, other projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. However, we are not a general forum for the kind of questions you asked. The photographic printing plates you described though, appear to be some sort of photogravure. So you might want to read that article Wikipedia. De728631 (talk) 21:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

50,000 free commons artworkEdit

So last year the Art Institute of Chicago put the 0 licence on over 50,000 items [1] <re[2]. Is there any way to tell if Commons has all these (I am sure we have soke perhaps many, but maybe not 50,000 or can somehow just get these easily? Is there a better place to ask this question? Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

There is Category:Art Institute of Chicago but it doesn't seem to have several thousands of images. I did a scan with PetScan to find any files with a CC-0 licensing in this category and its children, and it came up with 1,458 results. Most if of not all of these seem to be user-generated uploads though, and were not transferred from the AIC website. Come to think of it, this looks like one of the next big mass-upload projects for the bot crew. De728631 (talk) 21:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Natural settings vs captive birdsEdit

In uploading bird photos to Wikipedia, I sometimes encounter pages containing bird photos taken in zoos, and such photos might of better quality than my photos.

My question concerns whether photos taken in a natural setting are be preferred over those taken of captive birds?

An example can be found here:

where I have included gallery photos taken in Borneo.

Grateful for a response.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyCastro (talk • contribs) 19:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi TonyCastro. Regardless of the setting, we are happy to receive any such photos unless the quality is really bad. In general this means that we would like to see original high-resolution images rather than downscaled versions. De728631 (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@TonyCastro:: Here on Wikimedia Commons, we're generally in favour of having more pictures. If your pictures are good enough to be useful, and not hugely repetitious of ones we already have, then we want them. Whether it's appropriate to include them in a gallery on English Wikipedia is a slightly different matter. We have over a hundred pictures of rhinoceros hornbills on Commons but only ten are used on their article in English Wikipedia. If you want guidance on which pictures to use in Wikipedia articles you might do better to ask at en:Wikipedia:Help desk. --bjh21 (talk) 11:19, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

I got permission to upload a picture of the impressionist, Jamie Costa, but...Edit

I got explicit permission that I could upload a picture (this is the one Costa's co-manager/brother attached in an email: of the impressionist Jamie Costa to here for his Wikipedia article, but none of his pictures, including this one, are under a particular license. Mr. Caleb Costa told me over a business email representing Jamie that I could, "Feel free to pull a picture from his [Jamie's] imdb..." I've tried to get back in touch with Mr. Caleb Costa, but he has yet to respond to my follow-up email regarding what particular license to file it under, so how do I upload the picture I linked under this permission instead of a specific license. If there's not a way, I'll just wait for a response email.
Stinkyjaden (talk) 19:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC)-Stinkyjaden

@Stinkyjaden: Please have the photographer(s) license the photos on their websites or social media or send the photos and permissions via OTRS with carbon copies to you.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 19:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

May someone delete this for meEdit

The picture has served its purpose. I don't need it on here anymore.
Stinkyjaden (talk) 20:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)-Stinkyjaden

✓ Done De728631 (talk) 20:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Someone on YouTube used my video here without attributing meEdit

What do I do? The video is at My clip, which wasn’t attributed, is at File:Newton’s cradle slo mo.webm Nigos (t@lkcontributionsUploads) 22:37, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

@Nigos: You can report it to YouTube.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 23:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Image on Korean WikipediaEdit

I've found this image on the Korean Wikipedia which appears to have an appropriate licence for Commons. It's been a while since I've transferred anything here though, and I'm a bit reluctant to do anything on a foreign language Wiki which I can't read. Any advice? PC78 (talk) 00:12, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@PC78:My advice is not to transfer w:ko:파일:안봉순.JPG to Commons. The file seems to be a photograph of another photograph (indeed, a derivative work) However, we do not know when is the original image is taken. Therefore it is better for it left on Korean Wikipedia, until somebody fixed the copyright issue, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 09:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Fair enough, thanks for taking a look. PC78 (talk) 12:55, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


Salve,ho caricato delle immagini con l'utente Gioelecorradengo,vorrei che fossero rimosse,siccome devo riutilizzare per la creazione della mia pagina ufficiale. Grazie.

Cordiali saluti.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gioelecorradengo (talk • contribs) 01:14, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Trying to upload a picture to my own IMDBEdit

Hey there!

I'm trying to upload a picture of myself that I took myself. However, I can't seem to figure it out. I keep getting messages about the picture not being "approved" but I own the picture and represent all the content within.

Any help is appreciated,

Matt Danner
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Matty Danner (talk • contribs) 03:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Matty Danner: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/153 by trying to cross-wiki upload smaller (<50KB or <5MP) jpg photos as a new user while leaving the summaries intact. Each jpg photo you tried to upload is smaller, and you said it's your own work. Usually when someone uploads smaller photos, they are copyright violations taken from the web. If you took the photos yourself, please upload the full-size originals of them, including EXIF metadata. If you did not take the photos, please see Commons:Licensing for why we can't accept them, and have the photographer(s) license them on their websites or social media or send the photos and permissions via OTRS with carbon copies to you. If you change the summaries or use our Upload Wizard instead, you should be able to avoid that filter.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

How to change e-mail associated to my user name & image I uploaded?Edit

How to change e-mail associated to my user name & image I uploaded? SparkleStripe (talk) 07:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@SparkleStripe:Please click in Special:ChangeEmail, and follow the procedures given by that page, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 09:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

why I cannot upload the logo file into the post?Edit

I tried many times to upload the logo file into the post invain! Please give me the help!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by QuyenCAT (talk • contribs) 08:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@QuyenCAT: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/153 by trying to cross-wiki upload png and smaller (<50KB or <5MP) jpg logos as a new user while leaving the summary intact. Such uploads of png logos are not allowed at all. You said each is your own work. Usually when someone uploads a logo, it's a copyright violation taken from the web. Please upload the full-size original of it, including EXIF metadata, but it may be judged too complex to be under TOO in the country of origin, so you may need to publish the new logo and your permission for it on your website or social media or send them via OTRS. Also, any png image will look fuzzy when scaled down or jaggy when scaled up, so you may want to upload an svg or jpg version, too. If you change the summary or use our Upload Wizard instead, you should be able to avoid that filter.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:10, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Как загрузить файл?Edit

Раньше я легко загружал файлы, теперь у меня не получается он посылает на страницу задайте вопрос но не загрузки файлов
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmitriicheltsov (talk • contribs) 12:34, 19 August 2019 (UTC)


quierodescargar un audio en mp3 para una investigacion en wikipedia hacerca del law fare en temas juridicos no medeja.

--Kitoko investigador (talk) 15:26, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Por supuesto, quiero descargar un audio en mp3 para una investigación en wikipedia acerca del law fare [???] en temas juridicos no me deja. Pero, ¿exactamente que trataste de hacer, con cual herramiento, y que pasó? - Jmabel ! talk 16:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

ask for a checkEdit

I,ve uploaded this [[File:Painting_by_Jean_van_de_Kerckhove.jpg|image]] and I'm convinced it is in the public domain because its source indicates this (see button +objectgegevens under at the page). My question is: did i upload the file correctly, can i use the description of the source (or is this copyrighted). And where can i add the information about the book its coming from (L'enfant de Bruges) Kind regards, --Geerestein2 (talk) 17:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Geerestein2: File:Painting by Jean van de Kerckhove.jpg was basically correct, but I added a public domain rationale for the United States as that is required here at Commons (the files are hosted in the US). I also edited the credit line from the Rijksmuseum's website as a matter of courtesy. The description of the source is trivial though, so you can easily use it here without problems. As to the book, the full text can also be found at, and the British Museum has some background information on the writer and the book's subject Frédéric van de Kerckhove. De728631 (talk) 20:24, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

How to post pictures in Wikipedia in my accountEdit

How to post pictures in Wikipedia in my account
— Preceding unsigned comment added by King Saifonce (talk • contribs) 18:23, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello King Saifonce, you can add a string of code to your user page like [[File:This is where the file name is | thumb | Add a description here.]] Then click "Publish changes" and that's it. De728631 (talk) 20:01, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

how do I add a link to a webpage with more information on an image?Edit

how do I add a link to a webpage with more information on an image?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Heptadecagon star 17 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello Heptadecagon star 17. Most images at Commons have a code template called {{Information}} or similar types of wiki code that produce the file information you see below the preview on a file's page. To add a link to a website to a file page, you need to click the "edit" tab on top of the file page, and look at the code editor. There should be a string |description= somewhere with a description text following the = sign. At the end of the old description you may now add another bit of text like: For more information, see [https// Some Useful Website]. After that you just save the page ("Publish changes"). De728631 (talk) 20:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
But if you are going to add a link within a language-specific template like {{En}} or {{Fr}}, make sure to use the explicit "1=" syntax. E.g.
{{Information | description={{en|... something with a URL}} ... }}
won't work right, you need
{{Information | description={{en|1=... something with a URL}} ... }}
- Jmabel ! talk 22:56, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jmabel: "something with a URL" is not quite specific enough, "something with a URL containing an equal sign" is better (the problem is the equal sign).   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 06:17, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I suppose that's true, but the "1=" is never harmful. - Jmabel ! talk 06:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Acceptable? Coat of Arms from Merged Fraternity from 1920 Yearbook.Edit

I wish to upload the Coat of Arms from Sigma Tau Pi fraternity (which merged with Alpha Epsilon Pi in 1947). The image that I want to use is from , the 1920 yearbook for the University of Pennsylvania (which had its Alpha chapter). Given that the fraternity only existed from 1917 to 1947, I am not sure that many other sources are available from prior to 1923.Naraht (talk) 22:39, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Anything published in the U.S. in 1920 is public domain. Use it. - Jmabel ! talk 22:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

craft heading t to the beaches of Oran, Algeria on 11/8/1942Edit

Can you help me find a list of the young men on the landing craft heading to Oran on nov. 8, 1942 The very young man in the middle of the boat the very image o f my grandson. The picture haunts us

thank You Penni —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2001:5B0:4FC4:8FF8:E1E3:E10B:5CD:19CD (talk) 04:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Where can we find that picture?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 06:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Image taken downEdit

I posted an image that was given to me by the Lake Carroll Association to

It has been since taken down as a copyright violation.

I am a new user, and I will admit being very confused as to how to get all the necessary "blessings" to use the image.

I tried to contact the person who took it down, but frankly each link took me to a page that re-directed me to another page. Again, very confusing.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by QueticoCanoeing (talk • contribs) 15:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @QueticoCanoeing: I assume this is about File:Aerial View of Lake Carroll.jpg. Two issues there:
    1. No free license at all was indicated. We require that all images here offer a license that allows anyone to reuse the image, including commercially and including derivatives. Probably the tightest license allowed is {{Cc-by-sa 4.0}}. We need at least that.
    2. Only the holder of the copyright can grant such a license, and it cannot be granted orally. I take it from your posting that the photographer and copyright-holder is Donna Beyer. (If not, then that is another thing we are going to have to sort out, but what follows applies to the copyright-holder whoever it is. If copyright is held by an organization, it refers to an authorized representative of that organization.)
      • The simplest way to grant a license is that if the photo is posted on a site or page clearly under control of the copyright-holder, they can indicate the license there. Once that is done, you can make an undeletion request at Commons:Undeletion requests. This should result in restoring the image quickly.
      • The other (typically slower) way is to go through the process described at COM:OTRS where the copyright-holder sends email granting a specific license. Make sure if you go that route that the email specifically indicates the license (I recommend cc-by-sa 4.0 as giving up the fewest rights), is specific to File:Aerial View of Lake Carroll.jpg, and indicates any attribution that is required for the photo. This will be slower, but once the process is complete the image will be restored. - Jmabel ! talk 15:51, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Problem with cropped versionEdit

Two days ago, File:Carl Craig.jpg was replaced with a cropped version. It causes a problem in some Wikipedias such as de:Carl Craig, is:Carl Craig, and zh:Techno, where his face looks vertically longer than it actually is. Could someone restore the old version of the image? 16:40, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This is most probably a cache issue. Please clear the cache of your browser, and load the page again. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:44, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
That said, this rather extreme crop of a perfectly good photo uploaded by someone else should have been uploaded under a different file name. - Jmabel ! talk 21:45, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Need license tag helpEdit

I uploaded to Wikimedia about a week ago, File:HRtoHoe.jpg. Or get there via It's vital to get this upload approved, as it would probably be impossible otherwise, for anyone to locate the exact text. I covered that in "Other information." The problem is getting a license tag that works. I have no idea if this former small-circulation non-profit newsletter was ever given a business license. I doubt it! Maybe, another tag would work better, such as, the popular one used for magazines published between 1924 & 1963, that weren't copyrighted. I put too much info in the summary box, because I don't know what type of tag might work. Again, some statements given in the article "Paul Martin (illustrator)" are referenced, but impossible for those themselves, to be verified w/o this upload. I could be the only one who has the original two sheets, which I placed together and then photographed and uploaded to my computer. Thks. JimPercy (talk) 20:22, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

  • A business license had nothing to do with the matter. The "license" in question is that, if the work is still in copyright, we need an appropriate license granted for others to re-use the photo, and only the copyright-holder can grant that. - Jmabel ! talk 21:47, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • You claim to have granted a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license. You can only grant that license if (1) the work is still in copyright and (2) you own the copyright. I have no idea whether the work is still in copyright, but I'm pretty confident that even if it is, you don't own the copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 21:49, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
  • It may be valuable to have this on line somewhere, but it is certainly not "vital" that it be posted to this particular site if it cannot be posted under a license we permit.
  • If, as I understand it, the magazine pages reproduced here date from 2005, there is almost no chance that the text is not copyrighted. However, if the illustrations are older, then they may well be public domain. I suggest you think in terms of demonstrating that, and we can crop to just the illustrations, instead of the obviously copyrighted text. - Jmabel ! talk 21:54, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jmabel: My query is COMPLETELY about preserving the text. The two very dated images in the text are just incidental. This was roughly a seven page newsletter that was stapled together and mailed to locals. It's creator and editor passed in 2010. (I backed that up, by inserting an external link in the Description line.) The newsletter ceased to exist with his passing. I now understand it was near certainty copyrighted, and some unknown person/company now owns the copyright. Hence, the current license is wrong. Is there another tag that might work. Maybe that Wikipedia tag: non-free newspaper / fair use. The downsize there is that an imagine of text (ugh), would have to be in the actual article. It seems, unfortunately, I might have to delete this upload if I can't find an alternative. JimPercy (talk) 00:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Possibly there is some basis to host this on Wikipedia, but if it is copyrighted, not free-licensed, and we don't know who owns the rights, then it's out of the question for Commons.
But why does this need specifically to be hosted specifically in a Wikimedia Foundation project? It is exactly equally citable whether it is available online or not; if the issue is just preservation, it seems to me that you can post it on a "fair use" basis on a site that is less interested in its content being freely reusable. - Jmabel ! talk 00:21, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Jmabel: Yes, it's about preservation, and backing up the quote excerpts in Ref. #16 at "Paul Martin (illustrator)." I might look into whether or not it can be uploaded to Wikipedia instead under the "fair use tag." (I think an icon of it would be required in the article, so that won't work though.) I reckon, an option would be uploading the image to another site on the WWW, though that would take me a bit to look into. JimPercy (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • See Commons:Licensing. Not everything belongs on Commons, even if it is of historical importance. Images on Commons must be either public domain (fallen out of copyright due to age or other factors) or free licensed (eg, a license like Creative Commons By granted by the copyright holder/creator). If you are not the creator/copyright-holder of something, you cannot grant a license for it. There are other places on the web to upload images that don't fall within Wikimedia Commons restrictions. For example, in addition to Commons I upload many images to Flickr (; you might wish to take a look at the free accounts there or somewhere similar. Files uploaded here that cannot demonstrate free license will be deleted. Hope this helps. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Infrogmation: Okay, I tried Flickr. I upload the image to there instead, and then inserted its URL into the end of Ref. #16 at the WP article: "Paul Martin (illustrator)." It worked, BUT, I can't figure out how to see the image at Flickr, after signing on to my account. I think the system is blocking the upload from appearing, until a review process or a certain number of days has passed. I might put off attaching a "speedy deletion tag" onto my upload to Commons (with wrong tag), until sure of things. Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 21:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Trouble with Category for DiscussionEdit

Two months ago, I nominated two categories for discussion (Category:Samuel Mulledy and Category:William Feiner). I have since withdrawn my nomination. I am not sure how to remove their CfD template now, and remove them from the CfD log. Could someone please assist? [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] (talk) 02:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I closed the two discussions. --ghouston (talk) 06:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Ergo Sum: Your signature appears broken. On Special:Preferences, please check "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)", and Save.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

О загрузке фотографий на тематический конкурсEdit

Добрый день, попытался загрузить свои фотографии на конкурсы "Двери" и "Одинокое дерево", казалось, все делал по правилам, но не вижу своих работ среди конкурсных фотографий. Здесь по ссылке мои загрузки, на конкурсы загрузил верхние(последние) пять работ:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Николай Васильевич Белавин (talk • contribs) 10:42, 21 August 2019‎ (UTC)

About uploading photos to a thematic contest

Good afternoon, I tried to upload my photos to the Doors and Lonely Tree competitions, it seemed that I was doing everything according to the rules, but I did not see my works among the competitive photos. Here is the link of my downloads, I downloaded the top (last) five works for competitions:Special:Listfiles/Николай Васильевич Белавин
translator: Google Translate via   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Николай Васильевич Белавин: Пожалуйста, следуйте шагу 5 в Commons:Photo challenge/ru.
Please follow step 5 at Commons:Photo challenge.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Page deletionEdit

How do I permanently delete a page that was created my me?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabelrose211 (talk • contribs) 08:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC) (UTC)
@Mabelrose211: Hi,
You can't delete a page or a file yourself. You can request deletion under certain criteria. What's the page? Regards, Yann (talk) 08:11, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


Hi, Just wondering can the logo at be uploaded here ?, I don't know if the symbol thing up the top would prevent it or fail TOO?, Thanks, –Dave | Davey2010Talk 11:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Davey2010. Assuming you mean the logo in the top center, as this is a US company, and the US sets a fairly high bar for TOO, this should be perfectly fine to upload with Template:PD-textlogo. GMGtalk 14:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey User:GreenMeansGo, Ah okie dokie I'll upload it now, Many thanks for your help it's much appreciated :), Thanks, –Dave | Davey2010Talk 19:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

SVG ExtractorEdit

Hi, Could someone kindly extract and upload the logo from to File:Tropicana Laughlin logo.svg,
I've tried all SVG exporter/extractor chrome extensions and one misses the T off of the name and the other seems to upload a broken file (the upload now) ... so I wasn't sure if someone had a better way of extracting it?,
Many thanks, –Dave | Davey2010Talk 11:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

I've had a go, but while my version looks fine in Inkscape and Firefox, the server-side renderings don't work. The SVG looks pretty simple, and the error page reports Error: 429, Too Many Requests, so maybe it's just that there's no capacity to thumbnail anything at the moment. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure the current copyright tag on that file is wrong. --bjh21 (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi bjh21, Well many thanks for trying :), The logo opens fine on Internet Explorer too so wasn't entirely sure if it was related to Wikimedia somehow,
The SVG exporter I use gives me this result so wasn't sure if this was an error on Trops part or the extensions part ? (I wasn't sure whether to contact them and see if they can send an SVG file to me so I can upload here?), Thanks again for trying anyway, –Dave | Davey2010Talk 12:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done - Many thanks Bjh21 and Begoon for your help in getting this pain in the backside file uploaded, I greatly appreciate you both helping me out, Thanks, –Dave | Davey2010Talk 13:14, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
The only real issue with c/pasting it from the HTML source was that the viewBox/viewport dimensions needed to be set to avoid chopping parts off. Bjh had already worked around that by fitting the viewport to the artwork in Inkscape. I just tidied the code a bit. Your other issues seem to have just been transient thumbnailing hiccups - that's been fairly common recently. -- Begoon 13:20, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I didn't understand a word of that Face-grin.svg, Then again I have 0 knowledge with this sort of thing, Only thing I do know is SVG is a much better format than jpg & png lol, Anyway thanks again much appreciated, –Dave | Davey2010Talk 19:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Heh... You don't usually need to understand the 'code' side of that, because your svg editing tool should do it for you when you set 'artboard'/'document size' in AI/Inkscape etc. If you want a better explanation of how it actually works then look at Tutorial - SVG Viewport and View Box. -- Begoon 01:48, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Delete imageEdit


I just realized that the image I uploaded, , is probably a violation of copyright, since I just translated an English image to Spanish. Thanks!
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Joncolombia (talk • contribs) 15:15, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey Joncolombia. What is the original that this is based off of? GMGtalk 15:19, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
While it would be good to credit any sources, I don't think anything here rises to the level of being copyrightable. - Jmabel ! talk 16:25, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Jmabel, it was from
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Joncolombia (talk • contribs) 15:42, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Fail to update SVGEdit

Hello everyone, I want to update File:Map of China.svg, but it warned "This file contains HTML or script code that may be erroneously interpreted by a web browser." Even if I download the original file and upload it again, this error will occur.  Buernia Talk  17:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Upload Wizard vs. Flickr2CommonsEdit

On 19 August, I used Special:UploadWizard's "Share Images from Flickr" to upload an album of photos. Everything went swimmingly. "FlickreviewR 2" reviewed the license and all seemed fine. Then, on 21 August, I noticed a number of the images were being superseded as inferior duplicates. Although, I initially balked because I thought they were exact duplicates and I had put more effort into my descriptions and file names, I soon realized the new versions were of higher resolution. The second uploader told me they were using Flickr2Commons. So, my question is, does Upload Wizard not grab the highest resolution version available, and if so, why not? Is Flickr2Commons actually the preferred tool? For reference, the album is located at Category:Demonstration against extradition bill, 18 August 2019. Also, I noticed it only happened to images with P##### notation, not IMG#####. (My versions all had the phrase "Hong Kong protest" in front of the original Flickr file names. So, as I write this, a second theory is emerging. Is it possible Flickr hadn't fully rendered the P#### files (because they are super large)? So maybe it's not a problem with our software, just that I grabbed the images too quickly. Any insight is appreciated. (NB A few random other files have been added which are unrelated) Thanks. Cheers, --SVTCobra 18:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Files like File:Hong Kong protests - P1055556.jpg, it's 5184 x 3888 on your upload, but the original size is 8294 x 6221. I suppose it's a bug or limitation in Upload Wizard: I can't see anything on Phabricator so we probably need to create a new issue there for it. --ghouston (talk) 01:36, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
However, there's a weird thing. The metadata says the photo was taken with a Panasonic DC-GH5, which is a 20 megapixel camera, and 5184 x 3888 would be the correct resolution, like other files in Category:Taken with Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5. Looking a the full size images, the quality of the 8294 x 6221 version is pretty bad and it looks like it has been scaled up, so it may be a problem on the Flickr side. --ghouston (talk) 01:47, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe the Flickr user uploaded the photo, it was copied to Commons, and then they uploaded it again at the scaled-up resolution? Strange thing to do though. --ghouston (talk) 07:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Facebook pictureEdit


Can I upload this photo:

It is a photo of two public officials in public.

I found the photo on facebook but on the politicians open facebook page. That is public domain i believe.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Joellec7 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hey Joellec7. Unfortunately, being publicly available is not the same thing as being in the public domain. The former means that the public can access it, while the latter means essentially that the public owns it. Just as you may have access to music or movies that you have purchased, that means you own a copy of the media, but not the media itself.
The copyright for an image is nearly always held by the individual who took the photograph. If you can identify that person, you may be able to ask if they can release the image under a free license. Otherwise, I'm afraid we will probably not be able to use it here. GMGtalk 19:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Is there a template for info of a book on its category page?Edit

Do we use {{Wikidata infobox}} for this purpose too? Or {{Authority control}}? Or is there another specific one? Category:Chong sheng hai cao di si ji wei ti sheng wu qun ji qi di zhi yi yi is .--Roy17 (talk) 22:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Roy17: Seems to work just fine at Category:The Raven and Category:Moby Dick. GMGtalk 23:44, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Oh I see. The problem seems to be that the category you link to does not currently have a Wikidata item, or if it does have one, it is not linked to the category here. In order to make the infobox template work, you will have to create the item or link a pre-existing item to the category here. GMGtalk 23:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Fixing strings in MediaWiki:Licenses/frEdit

I tried to fix the page MediaWiki:Licenses/fr but I can only view source, not modify them (even when logged). There is a message when I view the source telling me to go to translatewiki but I cannot find the string there. Can someone help me ? Thank you ! Jona (talk) 08:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Only administrator can edit this page. You can request their help them at Commons:Administrator noticeboard. Ruslik (talk) 09:29, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


Image is sourced to the news website, which says at the bottom of the page: "版權所有 不得轉載 © 2019 The Liberty Times. All Rights Reserved". I think there is no permission from the Liberty Times. I have told User:葉又嘉 at Commons:Deletion requests/File:海峽中線.jpg: "we need a proof via OTRS, that you had the right to upload this image." I have spent a lot of time communicating with him, but until now he still insists on his position. I'm afraid we've arrived at a deadlock, because he think that he got the permission from 民航局, as written in the image “民航局提供” field. In fact, the Liberty Times is a news/media site publishing trending news in Taiwan. If he said "民航局" refers to this: ,then this source he currently provides is clearly copyrighted. What I want to ask is: If I didn't do anything wrong, why I have been censured by User:葉又嘉?--Kai3952 (talk) 15:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Assuming the last sentence (the only thing here that asks a question) is the thrust of your posting, please clarify what exactly you mean here by "censured". Clearly an individual didn't pass a formal resolution of censure, so what exactly did he do? - Jmabel ! talk
    • The word "censured" is more serious than "blamed".--Kai3952 (talk) 07:44, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
      Possibly. Nonetheless, as Jmabel says, if you want an answer to your question you will need to tell how and where you think you were censured. All I see here (via the admittedly flawed means of Google Translate) is some legitimate disagreement about whether an image on a news Web site that is credited to the Civil Aviation Authority falls within the scope of {{PD-ROC-exempt}}. --bjh21 (talk) 09:35, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

how to add a source if you used an app to alter an original photoEdit

I altered a original photo of mine to add extra graphics using a photo app I paid for how do I add the app as part of the source as I paid for the app and have permission to use its graphics and filters.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by APsrt (talk • contribs) 02:55, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
@APsrt: I think prose in the source field of {{Information}} would be fine, like {{Own}}. Additional graphics added using FooApp. I would also suggest using the {{Retouched picture}} template. If you're adding text, it would be helpful if you could separately upload versions without text so that people can make versions translated into other languages. More generally, uploading original photos helps to show that you haven't just copied the edited ones from the Internet somewhere. --bjh21 (talk) 09:59, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Add Head Shot to My Wiki PageEdit

I would like to upload my head shot to my Wiki Page
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert W. McKnight (talk • contribs) 02:55, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
I presume this is about en:Robert W. McKnight
Typically the photographer would own the copyright to the headshot. If it's a selfie, you can just upload it as your own work and provide an appropriate license, but I realize that's unlikely. Otherwise:
  • The simplest thing, if possible, is for the photographer to use a site or page that is obviously under their control to indicate the free license that is offered.
  • Failing that, you'll need to have the photographer (or other rights-holder) go through the process outlined at COM:OTRS. If the rights were already assigned to you or someone else, rather than being retained by the photographer, then the main thing the OTRS people are going to need to see is the document that signs over the rights. - 03:53, 24 August 2019 (UTC)


Awak —Preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 10:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)