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עדכון ערך ותמונות בערך הקיים בויקיפדיהEdit

שלום רב,

אני בנו של הצייר משה גת. לאבא שלי יש ערך בויקיפדיה ואני מעוניין לערוך את הערך ולהוסיף תמונה אישית שלו ודוגמאות לציורים (יצירות) שלו.

נירשמתי כעורך וניסיתי להעלות תמונה, אך אינני מצליח לקשר אותה לערך המופיע בויקיפדיה.

אשמח לקבל סיוע

בברכה איל גת Ayal Gat 0547778884

Feel free to ask your question at Commons:מזנון. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Anybody in England?Edit

I am looking for pictures for this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_British_Embassy_bombing

I know pictures from just after the bombing exist, like here: https://roomfordiplomacy.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/rome-res-off-bomb-damage-1946-fcol-a.jpg

I contacted the author of that webpage, and he said he had gotten them from Historic England at Swindon, and that he had permission according to the FCO "Open Govt Licence". Is that enough for uploading it to commons? Huldra (talk) 22:36, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

All versions of the Open Government Licence are acceptable for Commons. Use {{OGL}}, {{OGL2}} or {{OGL3}} as appropriate. I think that pretty much any work licenced under any version of OGL is now available under OGLv3, so you should use {{OGL3}} for a newly-uploaded work if you're not sure. --bjh21 (talk) 13:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
User:Bjh21 Ok thanks, does that mean I can copy straight from, say https://roomfordiplomacy.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/rome-res-off-bomb-damage-1946-fcol-a.jpg to commons, using a {{OGL3}} licence? Huldra (talk) 22:28, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Legally, I think that would be fine. Whether the sourcing would be adequate for Commons, I'm not so sure. I'd suggest explaining as much of the provenance of the picture as possible in the "Source" field. --bjh21 (talk) 22:59, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! Huldra (talk) 23:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Copy of pictureEdit

I have mistakenly copied a picture into the German wikipedia and I don't know how to remove it--Grafite1 (talk) 08:18, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@Grafite1: I removed it for you in this edit. Please note that German Wikipedia is not multilingual.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 09:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Dorothy RichardsonEdit

I would like an image of the author Dorothy Richardson to be added to the article on her and require help. I wrote to the Dorothy Richardson Society and received the following advice: "I would use the photo in the title of the Richardson website. It seems to be used fairly widely and we have never had any problems". Rwood128 (talk) 12:39, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

If you mean the image from http://dorothyrichardson.org/ then you can use it but it needs to be free of any copyright restrictions (in public domain) or otherwise it needs to be released by the photographer under a free license. It would be useful to know the dates when the image was taken and published. Ruslik (talk) 12:56, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Actually it is the image at the top of the page here http://dorothyrichardsonexhibition.org, but I presume that the the same research is needed. I will see what I can do. Rwood128 (talk) 13:25, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
As Richardson was born in 1873 the image (http://dorothyrichardsonexhibition.org,) must be over a hundred years old. Does that mean it is now in the public domain?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rwood128 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Not necessarily. Her own work is not out of copyright, and if the photographer lived as long as she did, the photographer's own work would also still be copyrighted. - Jmabel ! talk 16:51, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

СубкатегорияEdit

Как сделать субкатегорию?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitold Muratov (talk • contribs) 2018-11-07 00:41 (UTC)
  • You put a (sub)category in a category exactly the way you put a file in a category. Go into "edit" mode for any category and you should see how to do this. - Jmabel ! talk 00:35, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

How to delete a mistake category?Edit

I created a mistake category (Category:Semi-trailer coupling). How to delete it? MTnthảo luận 17:21, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Adding a screenshotEdit

On wikipedia, I have installed a user script, seen at [1]. I would like to upload a screenshot of it in use. What permission, if any, do I need to get from the creator of the script? --DannyS712 (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

original research in metadata?Edit

I work at a university library. A professor at our university is interested in having students in one of his classes help provide metadata for images in a scroll of yokai that we have. Students would be researching yokai and identifying them in the scroll so we could accurately label them when I/we upload them to commons. I realized that I'm not actually sure what the sourcing requirements on Commons are for metadata. This basically constitutes original research. Is it allowed? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Rachel,
Original research is allowed in all wiki communities, wikimedia.org, including Wikimedia Commons, the only exception is Wikipedia.
However I strongly suggest to include Wikidata in this activity check d:Q10301958 -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 21:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
I think another Commons user was saying that it's better to put image metadata on Wikidata. Is that a community consensus? Or is it common to put it on Wikidata and commons? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Rachel, if you enter at File:Independence of Brazil 1888.jpg you will see a lot of information as size, date, medium, current location... that are not stored here, they are imported already from Wikidata. Clicking on "edit" you will see that almost nothing displayed is native.
But this is in a very advance integration with painting, and historical photos, draws..., for other types of material where are a lit bit behind. All files with this Wikidata-logo.svg at the top of description, have some information coming from Wikidata.
Let me know if you need some help, even a more closer volunteer to tutor you on this path. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 10:49, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

"Women's Building"Edit

It would seem to me that Category:Alaska-Yukon-Pacific Exposition Women's Building should somehow relate to Category:Women of the United States via one or more subcategories of the latter, but nothing is leaping out to me. Any ideas? - Jmabel ! talk 01:21, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure this building refers to women of the US in particular. Judging from the interior it was a display hall for products related to women in general. Also, this exposition was an international trade fair with participants from as far away as Japan. De728631 (talk) 01:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Sadly, you can't tell from that photo, but, yes, the content was pretty much all domestic. After the exposition, the building evolved into a women's center for the University of Washington (where the exposition took place) and, although it was moved a couple of hundred meters in recent years, it still serves that purpose today. - Jmabel ! talk 16:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

How can you Upload a Voice Recording for an Article on Wikimedia Commons?Edit

Hi, I really want to know how to upload a voice recording for a Wikipedia article on Wikimedia Commons, which will be completely my work. I'm also new to Wikimedia and Wikipedia as a whole, so any tips would be recommended. What I'm planning to do will be a full audio recording on Donald J. Trump, the article, which will be entirely my work and my voice. Dylan Smithson (talk) 01:39, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

{@Dylan Smithson: That would be great. See examples at Category:Spoken_Wikipedia. Let me know if you have any questions. —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:19, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

No year listedEdit

Moved to Commons:Village pump/Copyright#No year listed

Immer WeiterEdit

My Immer Weiter page is getting deleted in spite of the fact that I am owner of all intellectual rights (pictures, logo's) and extensions. Moreover all information is 100% correct and viable. How is that? thderooij
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thderooij (talk • contribs) 15:03, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Thderooij: I'm not sure what you mean by "My Immer Weiter page". Commons does not host articles. Perhaps you are asking this on the wrong site? Or perhaps you are referring to one or all of the following:

If you want to contest any of these deletion requests, please click (for each) where it says, "Convert to DR" and follow the instructions to dispute the matter.

I can tell you right away:

  • on File:Immer Weiter in 2016.jpg, if you did indeed take the photo, there should be no problem, just reassert that in the DR. It probably got tagged only because the other two were suspect.
  • on File:ImmerWeiterVaandel.jpg, presumably you did not design the object depicted: we'd need to know its copyright status.
  • on File:Immer Weiter Wielruiterslied.jpg: not clear this is in Commons' scope, it looks like basically a text, but leaving the scope issue aside, if "own work" means you wrote the text here then it is hard to see why it would be notable, and if you didn't then it means you need to address the copyright issues for the text.

Jmabel ! talk 16:28, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

wikimedia commons use my photograph without my permissionEdit

Hello simply question, I found my photograph in article about Mr Łukaszewski File:Jerzy_Lukazewski,_rector_of_the_College_of_Europe.jpg nobody, never ever asked my permission about this photo. Original photo is in color and on this page in B&W. And as source is marked "own source" What's going on? How is possible to use my photo without my name, permission and more -to changed it? I'll be glad for answer my questions Best regards W. Korsak —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.67.122.55 (talk) 21:42, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, did you ever publish that photo? Otherwise, I don't know how it would be technically possible. The file does look like a scan from a book. If it is, then it's certainly not OK and will be deleted. @Andries Van den Abeele:: where and when did you take that photograph? It doesn't look like it was taken in October 2015, as you claim. It rather looks like the photo at [2], too. --rimshottalk 22:32, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I think all of Andries Van den Abeele's uploads, except for the street scenes, should be nominated for deletion. The dates are obviously invalid (e.g., on File:Marcel_Vandewiele.jpg, who died in 1999), and the "own work" claims are questionable. --ghouston (talk) 01:47, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Their response to previous problems in User talk:Andries Van den Abeele has been to accuse an administrator of an "extreme (fundamentalist) interpretation of the copyright" and that "I have not much time to go into an elaborate search for licenses". --ghouston (talk) 01:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
I wonder why a simple photo of a public person, which is available on many places, would be a problem to reproduce. Should one not be happy that the articles devoted to this former rector of the College of Europe are illustrated by his picture? On what will he, the possible original author (of who the name was not mentioned on the pictures I encountered) or Wiki Commons be improved by deleting this photo? Andries Van den Abeele (talk) 08:09, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
  1. @[[:User::Andries Van den Abeele|Andries Van den Abeele]]: Your reasoning seems to be "if this person who is complaining has already been ripped off by other people, why shouldn't we also rip them off."
  2. You seem to be more or less admitting that your claim that this photo is your "own work" is false.
  3. At this point, unless quite an explanation is forthcoming, I'm inclined to nominate all of your uploads that are claimed as "own work" for deletion. Can you give any reason I should not do that?
- Jmabel ! talk 16:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

UFC posterEdit

Just wanted to make sure editor could download UFC poster see here and save as a file and upload to Wikipedia. Please advise if anything I need to be aware of. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA (talk) 07:32, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

You may not upload that poster to Wikimedia Commons, because it is copyrighted and there's nothing giving us a free license to it. It may be uploadable to the English Wikipedia; see w:en:WP:FUC.--Prosfilaes (talk) 07:44, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Prosfilaes Thank you for the quick reply. I guess it might be fall under Wikipedia:File copyright tags/Non-free on a limited basis. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA (talk) 08:30, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Picture of the dayEdit

Hello,

How is the picture of the day chosen? How can I see who selected a given picture?

Benjaminikuta (talk) 11:26, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I just realized that the Wikipedia picture of the day and the Wikimedia Commons picture of the day are two different things. It's confusing and redundant. Why is it this way? Benjaminikuta (talk) 12:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia comes in many different languages and while there are basic rules and guidelines for all of them, any of these editions has its own set of preferences. Commons, however, is another independent Wikimedia project, which is why they all choose their pictures of the day as they see fit. At Commons, the picture of the day can be selected by anyone with the only rules being that the image must come from our pool of Commons:Featured pictures and may not have been chosen before. To see who selected which picture, simply click on the "change image" link below a picture at COM:POTD and view the edit history of the template that will show up. De728631 (talk) 17:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
"may not have been chosen before" this could be a good rule, but we see chosen before pics.
-- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 23:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

renaming Category:Cincinnati Chili to Category:Cincinnati chiliEdit

Hi! I read the renaming a category guidelines, but I'm not sure I've done this correctly as the new category name shows up in red. Can someone please check my work? Valereee (talk) 11:45, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I think I figured out what I did wrong -- still would recommend someone check my work, lol Valereee (talk)
You bollixed it a bit. I'm cleaning it up. Next time you want to move a category, in an uncontroversial move, the easiest way is probably to make a request at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands, though I'm sure there are other ways. - Jmabel ! talk 16:54, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, and sorry for the extra work! Valereee (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Michelle Jativa.pngEdit

The photograph was obtained from the url provided. Please indicate that additional information is necessary so that the photograph is valid in the copyright. I have entered the URL source and I mentioned the people who have ownership of the photograph.

--Ramiro Jativa (talk) 03:21, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

  • But you give no indication of a free license, nor would I expect that one would be available. - Jmabel ! talk 04:43, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Where's Wikidata?Edit

I can't seem to find a link to this page on Wikidata at the statistics page here. In the column to the right (while using the "Desktop view" mode) I can see (the English language version of) other Wikimedia projects, but for some reason not Wikidata.

(Unrelated: But apparently Wikimedia Commons is now the largest Wikimedia project being even bigger than Wikidata, guess structuring the data here will be an even bigger task than there.) --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Would someone please tell me if this item is uploadableEdit

https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47df-9df3-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

It was taken from this 1906 book:

https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/search/index?filters%5BnamePart_mtxt_s%5D%5B%5D=Avey%2C%20Elijah&keywords=&layout=false#

Thank you. Deisenbe (talk) 12:31, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

The website itself says "The copyright and related rights status of this item has been reviewed by The New York Public Library, but we were unable to make a conclusive determination as to the copyright status of the item. You are free to use this Item in any way that is permitted by the copyright and related rights legislation that applies to your use.", however from what I can tell works published in the United States of America prior to the year 1923 are in the public domain per {{PD-1923}}. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:36, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
The author, Avey, E., describes himself as eyewitness, the event was in 1859, so it seems that if the author is also the illustrator, or if the illustrator is anonymous, the picture is free. --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:38, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Misnamed pictureEdit

The picture File:Blackwater station site geograph-3263955-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg is misnamed. It does not show the site of the old station. It was actually taken just north of this, but pointing the wrong way, so the old station building is not visible at all in the picture. However, because of the "geograph-3263955-by-Ben-Brooksbank" stuff, I do not know the protocol for renaming it. Perhaps someone could advise. Mypix (talk) 18:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mypix: What would you find a more appropriate name, File:Road NE of old Blackwater station site geograph-3263955-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 01:21, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I think it is not worth mentioning the old station in the filename. As far as the location identification is concerned, it can be called "Blackwater Hollow, Blackwater, Isle of Wight, UK". The thing I'm not sure about is whether the "geograph-3263955-by-Ben-Brooksbank" bit should be retained as is, given that the other part of the name has changed. I'll leave that to you (or others). Thanks for your help. Mypix (talk) 11:22, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mypix: Thanks, I renamed it File:Blackwater Hollow, Blackwater, Isle of Wight, UK geograph-3263955-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 16:59, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Jeff. Mypix (talk) 17:59, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I think in general, if there's some identifying information in a filename (like the Geograph number and author here, or the image number in a lot of Flickr uploads), it's OK to leave it as is while correcting the rest of the filename. In any case, a file mover has to approve any request for renaming and they can always correct any technical problems with your suggested filename. Thank you for your correction, by the way. I've passed it back to Geograph so their information can be updated too. --bjh21 (talk) 13:29, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment We should give thanks for Ben Brooksbank's pictures; he went round the UK for decades recording its rail network, most of which has now disappeared. He died earlier this year, in his 90s. RIP. Rodhullandemu (talk) 13:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

  • On another point, the coordinates (which are given to great precision) appear to be slightly wrong, and, in particular, wrong enough to place the camera south-west of the old station site and railway crossing. This Google Street View shows the view from the supposed camera location, and you can see that it does not equate to the actual photo. On the other hand, the coordinates are meant to be those of the camera position, and I can't tell exactly where the camera was because of the unknown amount of zoom. What do we do in cases like this? Do I make a guess or just leave it alone? Mypix (talk) 18:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
    • You can tag locations with a precision, so if you can localise the picture within (say) 100m, you can put "prec=100" in the {{location}} template. In this case, though, a moderator on Geograph has already updated the co-ordinates there and I've copied those to Commons. --bjh21 (talk) 17:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Uploading PicturesEdit

Hi fellow Wikipedians,

I'm wondering if I take pictures of my own objects, such as a pair of shoes (brand) can I use the image to upload in an article about the specific show brand e.g. Miu Miu or Keds? Thank you Kmas 77 (talk) 01:03, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

@Kmas 77: Please see COM:UA.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 01:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Talk page message "file source not properly indicated" for image derived from Commons contentEdit

Not sure why I am getting a message on my talk page stating that the source of File:Mach Zehnder interferometer alternate candle images.svg was done improperly. I linked it to the source page on Commons (File:Mach Zehnder interferometer.svg). Please advise on how to correct. Kid222r (talk) 16:24, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

@Kid222r: I fixed it for you. Please use wikilinks. @Stigmatella aurantiaca, JuTa: Do you approve?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 17:14, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Cropped, not croppedEdit

I uploaded File:2008 age of ocean plates.png, but didn't want the title and citation at the top of it. So I downloaded it, opened it with Preview on a Mac, and then cropped it. On the Mac, the image was clearly cropped. In the preview on the Upload file page, it was clearly cropped. But after I finished uploading it, it wasn't cropped. What on Earth is going on? RockMagnetist (talk) 03:34, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

  • Probably a caching issue, probably on your own computer. Looks like you have now gone back & forth twice between the two versions. - Jmabel ! talk 06:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
    • Yes, after the first attempt failed I tried again by saving the cropped file to a different name. How would I deal with a caching issue? RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 16:21, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
      • RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) - Going by the instructions on Apple.com - press "Command + R" - I would assume you hold Command whilst pressing R, Shame you don't have a Windows machine I could've told you a lot quicker :P –Davey2010Talk 16:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
        • Actually, I'm not convinced there is a problem on my computer, although just in case I'm going to run an error check on my volume. What about the fact that the Upload page displays a thumbnail of the cropped version of the image? RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 16:41, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
          • @RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar): You appear to be describing a problem with caching or purging, please see en:WP:BYPASS, Help:Purge, and en:WP:PURGE for more information.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 00:01, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
            • Jeff G., thanks for the info. So it's a problem with my browser - that makes sense. In the meantime, the problem went away. RockMagnetist (talk) 04:56, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
              • RockMagnetist: I sometimes have the same problem with my Mac. In fcat more often than not, but if you open the page in a different browser, it looks just fine, proving it is some sort of browser cache problem. Don't worry about it. Also, for cropping, in most instances, there is no need to download and reupload to/from your computer but instead use the CropTool that is activated in your Commons Preferences, under Gadgets. The CropTool then appears in the left side of your screen. It saves a lot of time because it transfers all the correct and appropriate information into the cropped image, such as source, license, author, etc. It even leaves a backlink to the original and visa versa so long as the original has been positively reviewed which also means the image does not have to be manually reviewed. If you are just cropping a small bit of the image like a frame you can overwrite the original image but for more major crops or you should upload the cropped version as a separate new image, but you have a choice. And sometimes even CropTool images have the same browser purge problem. Ww2censor (talk) 14:15, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Renaming questionEdit

Hi, A few days ago I declined 2 rename requests by Chris j wood as he wanted to rename File:اسواق تجارية في لندن.jpg to File:Night view of Watts Warehouse, Manchester, England.jpg and File:شارع في لندن.jpg to File:Park Lane at Upper Brook Street.jpg,

The Arabic filenames translate as - "Commercial Markets in London" (first image) and "Street in London" (second image),

I declined these per COM:FR NOT #2 (Files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not English and/or is not correctly capitalized. Remember, Commons is a multilingual project, so there's no reason to favor English over other languages.),

So the questions I wanted to ask are:

  • Is my interpretation of COM:FR #2 correct in that filenames shouldn't be changed from another language to English even if the filename in that language is wrong ? and
  • Should incorrect filenames only be renamed if they're still in the same language ?,

Pinging Steinsplitter who has great knowledge with the renaming process,

Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, If possible the source language should be kept (COM:LP), but if nobody can translate a file it may be okay to rename (my personal opinion). In the past we had the issue that some users renamed perfectly named files from the source language to english, which is of course not in line with the language policy. Best --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Steinsplitter, Unfortunately myself and Chris don't speak Arabic and I don't really know anyone that does so in this specific case should I rename these ?, I could email the uploader but there's no guarantee I'd get a reply, and I don't want to use Google Translate as I fear it would still be wrong, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:18, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
In the light of this, it seems legit to me to rename (if the arabic name is completely wrong). --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:30, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Steinsplitter, Okie dokie I'll go ahead and rename these, Many thanks for your help it's really appreciated :), Take care, –Davey2010Talk 14:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

CategoryEdit

Hi, A user moved all images from Category:Japan Matsuri 2010 to Category:Japan Matsuri 2010 (Montpelier) however the former category is still showing on images (example) -
I've looked at Category:Japan Matsuri 2010, Category:Japan Matsuri 2010 (Montpelier) and Category:Japan Matsuri 2010 - Supported by Wikimedia France as well as tried removing that category with HotCat but nothing seems to have worked,
So I give up and was wondering if someone could turn detective, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

@Davey2010: I made these edits and then used Cat-a-lot to remove them from overcategorization into Category:Japan Matsuri 2010 (Montpelier), which caused the previous 212 files and should cause any new files to move (at the mercy of the job queue).   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:45, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Jeff G. you sir are amazing thank you! :), Never even knew there was a template so certainly would never have looked there, Anyway all moved, Many thanks again for your help :), –Davey2010Talk 15:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
@Davey2010: You're welcome!   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 15:56, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Image copyrightEdit

Good evening, I have contacted the owner of a specific image published on the EIA international site in order to use it in the inbox of the draft page I'm creating, and he has told me that the use of the image was free, I've even signed a Photographic contract in order to agree to the use of it . While I'm uploading the image, which kind of license should I select then? I'm not sure about the right one I possess about the image, and I wanted to ask about that. Thanks in advance to everyone, -- Stourbridgegrove (talk) 19:06, 12 November 2018

@Stourbridgegrove: Can you reveal exactly what they agreed to?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 18:53, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Hey Stourbridgegrove. You can't select a license for them. They have to agree to release the content under a particular license themselves. There isn't really a legal vehicle for "free" per se. What there is are several different free types of legal contracts we use in the form of licenses, that each come with their own particular minor differences. Those differences could land someone in court one day. So it's very important that the copyright holder properly agree to what is literally a binding legal contract. GMGtalk 20:08, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Jeff G. Yes of course! Here is the full text: "Upon the terms and conditions set out, the licensor hereby grants to the licensee the non-exclusive right to store and exploit “the material” for use within “the territory” under the “conditions” as follows. The licensee shall only use the images in accordance with the specification set out in schedule. Any further use of the images requires the further prior written agreement of the licensor." In the schedule it is specified that full credit to the ‘Environmental Investigation Agency’ must be given, as well as include the website, if possible.--Stourbridgegrove (talk) 14:59, 13 November 2018
Stourbridgegrove: certainly that statement does not appear free enough for us as all it requests is attribution and does not specifically state that commercial and derivative uses are permitted. Which EIA International are you talking about? The U.S. Energy Information Administration who are a US government body, so their works are in the public domain, unless the works or not actually theirs. Or is this perhaps a different EIA International? Ww2censor (talk) 16:45, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Ww2censorI see, but that's exactly what he has wrote in the attached mail, that's why I'm having doubts! Anyway, I'm talking about the Environmental Investigation Agency, EIA International.--Stourbridgegrove (talk) 17:55, 13 November 2018

Corrupt PNGEdit

Hi, I've come across this image which is corrupt, I reuploaded it but nothing changed so I reduced the size .... the image I first reuploaded now shows as a previeu but the current image still doesn't show,
Is there a fix for this ?, I wasn't sure reuploading it as a new file might do the trick ?, I've hit CTRL + F5 repeatedly and the current image isn't showing,
Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:59, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

@Davey2010: For the situation after the 1st upload, we have been having problems with cross-wiki uploads terminating at exactly 5MB with gray bars at the bottoms. For the situation after the 2nd and 3rd uploads, you appear to be describing a problem with caching or purging, please see en:WP:BYPASS, Help:Purge, and en:WP:PURGE for more information.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 23:57, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Jeff G., Ahhh right, I was pressing CTRL + F5 as well as F5 on it's own and both weren't having any effect (usually Ctrl + F5 always does the trick), Well all images show now so maybe I needed to do the Purge ... either that or I needed to do all 3 and then wait lol, Many thanks for your help again, –Davey2010Talk 14:57, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Need suggestion on finding good photos about United States police, particularly "stop and frisk" and "traffic stop"Edit

Hello everyone! I'm working on the following Wikipedia pages:

and a few other related pages. I'd like to get 5-10 photos which shows frisks / "pat downs" and another 5 that show traffic stops in the United States. I checked via search and browsed by category and came up pretty much empty handed. I'd like to get very vivid photos that convey a good feeling about the subject. Modern is better, but I did come across a webpage with an old black and white photo of several people lined up and getting frisked, so maybe that would work for the frisk photos. I would need modern for the traffic stop photos.

Any suggestions? Thanks! Seahawk01 (talk) 02:27, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey Seahawk01. Looks like there are a few images available at Category:Frisking and Category:Traffic stops. GMGtalk 15:02, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi GreenMeansGo, thanks for the reply! I did already check the categories and a lot are either photos of police training or from outside the United States.
So, I was interested in searching online and adding to the Commons. For example, doing a Google images search using: "traffic+stop"+site:.gov
Another idea I had was take body cam videos released by police and do a screenshot.
Seahawk01 (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
That's pretty much the standard search once you've done a google reuse with modification search. Other than that, you can just do a google image search and look for government sites, or sites from Florida, or some other jurisdiction that normally releases its contents into the public domain. Standard searches normally take care of the easy stuff like licenses on flickr. GMGtalk 01:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
GreenMeansGo, sounds good...thanks for the advice. I'm new to using the Commons, so it is very helpful. Seahawk01 (talk) 01:59, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Uploading a photo with permission from a family memberEdit

Hi,

I am trying to update the page of an applied linguist with a photo I have obtained from his granddaughter. She has given me permission to upload it but is that enough? Is it ok to just upload it with a note about where it was obtained?

Thanks

Hannah
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Peanutbuttonfly (talk • contribs) 14:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
No, you need to know who is the copyright holder is and obtain a free license statement. She may be the sole heir and that would likely be ok, but you need to inquire and in that case it may even need an OTRS verification. Ww2censor (talk) 14:18, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Austausch von BilddateienEdit

Ich möchte ein paar vorhandene identische Bilddateien auf Grund neuer Dateinamen austauschen und dies ist trotz etlicher Versuche und obwohl dies Option angeboten wird NICHT möglich.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Archifotokraneburg (talk • contribs) 08:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Ich habe zwar nicht verstanden, was genau gescheitert ist, aber ich habe die heutigen Aenderungen an File:CK Schmuck Montage 1.jpg angesehen und so korrigiert, wie es wahrscheinlich beabsichtigt war.
Korrekt ? Falls nein, bitte ich um Erlaeuterung. Am spaeten Abend des 15.11. schaue ich hier wieder vorbei, um ggf. zu helfen. -- Juergen (talk) 21:52, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Upload from URLEdit

Is it possible to upload images from URL or to otherwise first mass-export a certain website to the Internet Archive and then upload a large amount of .pdf files from the Intetnet Archive? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:19, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

I don't have an answer to the question, but you need a lincense for each image. Are the images in question all your own work such that you can use the same licence for all of them ? -- Juergen (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Radera bilderEdit

Jag behöver hjälp att radera några bilder jag lagt upp. Henrikjsson (talk) 21:36, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Do you speak English ? Most people here don't understand Swedish, neither do I. So I tried Google Translate and the question is: I need help to delete some pictures I uploaded.
The answer is: Read the Swedish page Commons:Deletion requests/sv. Google translates this as:
Läs den svenska sidan Commons:Deletion requests/sv.
But in fact, most of that page is in English either. Maybe you find the time to translate it into Swedish. -- Juergen (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
@Henrikjsson: I don't see any pictures that you've uploaded here in roughly the last six years, so I presume this is not about a recent accidental upload. You can nominate your own old pictures for deletion, just like anyone else can, but you presumably granted an appropriate license when you uploaded them, and you can't simply undo that.- Jmabel ! talk 23:49, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

The pictures I uploaded was taken direktely from the Artist Facebookpage and I mixed them together in Adobe PS before I uploaded them - I believed at he was OK with me doing so (but I didnt ask him) - and this week I found out that he actually really dont want those private pics uploaded here. I would like to get some help to take them down. I can upload other photos from my camera instead. I dont feel it is fair to him to keep his photos uploaded here. I am sorry for the troubble I created.Henrikjsson (talk) 01:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

  • @Henrikjsson: I suggest you follow the procedure at Commons:Deletion requests/Mass deletion request. Explain that at the time you didn't understand the copyright issues and uploaded photos on which someone else had copyright. It will probably take a week or so to allow time for comments, but I would expect they will be deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 16:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Missing Undo in the Wikimaps WarperEdit

On File:2017 Stockholm attack.png, I clicked the "Georeference the map in Wikimaps Warper" button and tried to use the Wikimaps Warper for my first time, but I made a mistake with one of the control points. How can I correct that ? I did not find an edit, delete or undo function for the control points. -- Juergen (talk) 21:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Fixed it, I think. I logged into Warper, went to the "Rectify" (=edit?) tab, repositioned the markers and clicked the "Warp image!" (=save?) button. "Preview" does not seem to work like we are used to here. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:12, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Using screenshots of publicly released police dash/body cam videosEdit

Hello, can anyone fill me in on using screenshots of publicly released police dash/body cam videos as images. Initially I thought that anything the government produces is public domain because taxpayers pay for it. Then, looking into things more, I see that dash/body cam videos can be considered "investigative records" and that there are also privacy concerns about releasing them.

On the other hand, I only want to use publicly released videos. So, am I correct in considering them as public records and, therefore, public domain? The two examples I'm including are from the Des Moines Police Department released at the request of the Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement. Thanks!

Warrantless-search-des-moines-071518.png
Warrantless-search-back-seat-passenger-side-des-moines-071518.png

Seahawk01 (talk) 05:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Seahawk01. Works by governments are not automatically public domain unless that government (as the owner) releases it as such. Yes, it would make sense to be publicly funded and therefore publicly owned, but unfortunately most governments don't see it that way. As far as I know, governments that actually do make sense includes the US federal government, the state of Florida, and I believe some agencies in Maryland, but I'm not aware of any others off the top of my head.
Keep in mind too that public domain is a particular legal term from intellectual property law, and isn't the same as public record or publicly available. These may deal with availability, while "public domain" per se deals with ownership. For example, a publicly funded statue in the US may be publicly available for viewing, and even placed in a public park, but under US law, the creator still retains the rights to the intellectual property of the artwork.
I'm afraid unless you have something from these particular agencies or the state of Iowa releasing official works into the public domain, then ownership is presumed retained by the agency that made them. GMGtalk 11:57, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Also California, see Template:PD-CAGov. Ww2censor (talk) 22:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ww2censor: thanks, very helpful! Seahawk01 (talk) 02:17, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
@GreenMeansGo: thanks for the reply. I'm really new to Wiki Commons, so this discussion is enlightening. I had no idea states were different in handling copyright. I did a bit of research and came up with this: State Copyright Resource Center. Next, I checked the Des Moines Police Department and they have a form for release of public records which includes body and in-car camera recordings. Going back to the first link, I found Iowa FOIA Laws, I found out that Iowa's Open Records Law includes the right to "publish or otherwise disseminate" public records (another link here that also says "there are no restrictions for use of the records in the law"). So, I guess I'm in the clear and there are no restrictions regarding reuse, at least with respect to Iowa! Do you agree with my analysis? Thanks for the time! Seahawk01 (talk) 02:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

picture transfer from one page to another - translatedEdit

Hi

So... I've been trying to get a pic of Mark Manson on the translated Danish page; created using wiki's translation tool. When I access the pic on the English wiki-page for Manson it informs me that it is an ideal candidate for upload to wiki commons - this would then (obviously) allow me to insert it into his Danish wiki-page. On doing this however, and whilst referring to his en.wiki page as the source, I was told that this violated your guidelines. How can it be that wikimedia commons will not accept this, when it recommends that the picture be uploaded??

regards clmogensen88

p.s. I'm really at a miss here - it makes no sense to me. Hoping to hear back soon
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Clmogensen88 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Sorry Clmogensen88, but that image w:File:Mark-Manson-Headshot-2016.jpg on the enwiki has no evidence of permission and this webpage https://markmanson.net/terms-and-conditions clearly disallows commercial use so we can't use it. The tag for a move to commons is wrong. I've also tagged the same commons image as having no permission. You might ask the subject for an image that has been freely licensed by the copyright holder, who in most instances is the photographer. Ww2censor (talk) 22:53, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Derrivative of Portrait PhotosEdit

I recetly recieved a message about this photo I tried to uploaad: AwakenedArtistsCollective.jpg. Would I need to get permission from the photographer or the people being photographed or both? If the artists have each given their permission for this photo to be uploaded, would I then need to prove this somehow? Would a email do? Or, does it have to be signed? Any help would be greatly welcomed and appreciated.

Many thanks for your time.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Saffarelli (talk • contribs) 17:03, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
You need permissions from all four photographers (if they are different people). See Commons:OTRS for details. Ruslik (talk) 20:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Hopkinton NH Town Hall.jpgEdit

This image is published on the public page of the town's own facebook page. This is the header image and therefor also seen by anyone without being connected to the page in any way. Facebook policy states that this image is considered "public domain" but I do not know how to tag this properly for this purpose. Please assist, thank you.

--Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 18:47, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

You have already tagged it appropriately. Ruslik (talk) 20:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
If the image is in the public domain then the tag is ok but I'm sorry, I don't see any evidence this image has been placed in the public domain by the Town of Hopkinson. Certainly there is nothing on the Facebook source page to indicate that: https://www.facebook.com/HopkintonNH/photos/a.590585730961397/1174889745864323/?type=3&theater I'm interested to see where you got that information from. Ww2censor (talk) 23:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Photographs released into public domainEdit

Hi everyone. I contacted Mr John Mathew Smith on FlickR to ask for his permission to transfer some photographs of Diana, Princess of Wales, to Wikimedia Commons. He agreed, and I am very grateful because we have so few photographs of the "world's most photographed woman". I explained that he should change the licenses and he chose to release them into public domain. When I transferred the files, however, I noticed that that was not enough. Why is it in public domain? Because the copyright holder said so on FlickR. Should he have chosen another license? I would not like to bother him too much anymore. The files in question are File:Diana 1996.jpg, File:Diana, Princess of Wales 1996.jpg, and File:Diana portrait 1996.jpg. Surtsicna (talk) 01:07, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: Have you read COM:PDM?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 01:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Jeff G.. I had not. What do you suggest I do now? Should I ask the photographer to change the licenses... again? Surtsicna (talk) 02:03, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: Yes, please, and don't recommend PDM if you want files to survive here.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 02:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Okay, Jeff G., I have asked the photographer to change the license again. It would be a great shame to lose these photographs. They are the highest quality and most recent photographs of Diana that we have. Surtsicna (talk) 08:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
When the licenses are changed again, do I just edit the file description to reflect the change? Will the bot check it or does it have to be done manually? Surtsicna (talk) 08:11, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
@Surtsicna: Just replace the licensing section templates with the replacement license and {{Flickrreview}}; the bot will do the rest.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:46, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Tampa Florida category namesEdit

Where is the best place to propose a renaming of numerous categories? Looking through Category:Tampa, Florida by decade, the 1970s categories onward (both decade and year) use only Tampa and not Tampa, Florida (with redirect to make it Tampa) which is problematic because the main template (see, e.g. this page) uses Tampa, Florida. I don't know which is better but I can't find a place for general discussion. Should I start a centralized discussion at the talk page for the history page? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:27, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I think this would be classed as uncontroversial (see Commons:Rename a category), so doesn't need a discussion. If you add the renaming requests to User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands, an administrator will examine the requests before they are done. --ghouston (talk) 05:47, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

uploading a sound fileEdit

I have no idea how to go about this. If I record sound (very short) on my phone , how do I upload it to wikicommons____
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathigalesa (talk • contribs) 15:31, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Cathigalesa: Signing your posts on talk pages is required and it is a Commons guideline to sign your posts on deletion requests, undeletion requests, and noticeboards. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and a timestamp will then automatically be added when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). Thank you.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 18:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Please see COM:FT#Sound.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 18:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Uploading photos from a companyEdit

Dear Commons,

I have been in contact with a company about licensing their photos for use on a Wikipedia page. They have forwarded me on the original photo files and have given me written permission to upload to Wikipedia. Now, I am having trouble with the licensing permissions portion of the Upload Wizard. Please your instructions and assistance on where to send the photos now, in order to make a successful upload.

Kind regards,

Ltc1993 (talk) 20:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

  • "Permission to upload in Wikipedia" is not sufficient for Commons. See Commons:Project scope#Must be freely licensed or public domain for what it means to free-license a photo so that it can be hosted on Commons, and COM:OTRS for how they can pass along that permission. Also, some of the Wikipedias (including the one in English) allow non-free images in certain circumstances, but you'd have to find out about the individual policies on the individual Wikipedias. - Jmabel ! talk 20:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Reposting Newly Sorted Data?Edit

Hello,

Can I upload images of data from Wikipedia that I sorted in Excel?


Recently people online have made a stirring about CNN's List of 27 Deadliest Shooters (I have yet to find the actual list). Online, it was emphasized that 26 of 27 shooters were fatherless (which was later redacted https://www.crisismagazine.com/2018/fatherless-shooters-clarification-data). I thought it was interesting that people were focusing on one aspect of a person's demographics (and not commenting on the fact that all the shooters were males), and I decided to look at the component of the Race of the shooters. I based the numbers off of the information provided by Wikipedia's page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States. I found that out of thirteen school shootings with five or more victims in the U.S., totaling 44 deaths and 171 injuries, 12 out of 14 shooters were White. I organized the data descending by number of deaths per event, saved the Excel document as a PDF, and exported the PDF to PNG and JPG formats.

Because the data was already online, on Wikipedia's List of school shootings in the United States page, can I upload the two images of the data to that same page and can I include a caption summarizing the images?


[I was unable to upload the images to this Editing Commons: Help Desk page. Neither PNG Image or JPEG Image formats were permitted to be uploaded]
— Preceding unsigned comment added by I The Rebel I (talk • contribs) 23:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • This is Commons. We can't really speak for what you can do in Wikipedia. Each different-language Wikipedia has its own policies, which will vary from one to another. I think for the English-language Wikipedia, which I know best, unless you could find a reliable source discussing this demographic issue it would at least border on unacceptable synthesis.
  • Technically, a graph like this would best be expressed in SVG format. PNG would be next most acceptable. JPEG seems a poor choice.
  • Uploading an image is a separate matter from transcluding it into a page. I can't think of any reason you couldn't upload the relevant images to Commons; you'd upload them here just like any other file. Please use an appropriate filename if you do this. Once they are here, there should be no technical difficulty transcluding them into a Wikipedia page but, again, acceptability in Wikipedia might be an entirely different matter. - Jmabel ! talk 06:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

German black letter fontEdit

Is there a way to invoke the German Black Letter font to transcribe the text in an image? I generally try and do the original font and then the default font. RAN (talk) 05:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

  • 𝖄𝖔𝖚 𝖈𝖆𝖓 𝖇𝖚𝖙 𝖎𝖙 𝖎𝖘 𝖙𝖊𝖉𝖎𝖔𝖚𝖘, and because it uses different code points, it means that search engines won't be able to read the content, which defeats much of the purpose of transcription. But Fraktur talks about somehow handling it with Unicode & font specification, but doesn't explain exactly how to make that work. - Jmabel ! talk 06:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Appeal of delete decisionEdit

I want to appeal two decisions to delete images that I uploaded. The first image was File:Farrar's Island Marker K199.jpg. This image is no different than many others found on wikipedia. There are two such images (different names) on Jordan Point, Virginia. Why are those and other images acceptable but mine isn't. They all came from the same source or appear to.

The second image that is up for deletion is File:Westwood - Letter from Lord Farrer 1930.jpg.

It did not come off the web, as I tried to explain when I uploaded it. I received it from an English Cousin, who had it photographed from an archive in Surrey County, England. I don't see how that could be copyrighted. The upload options are too limited, When you choose other, it says that you found it on the internet, and that is not true in my case. I received it from a cousin via email and it did not come from the internet.Alvanhholmes (talk) 07:32, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Alvanhholmes (talk) 07:32, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

@Alvanhholmes: go to Commons:Deletion requests/File:Westwood - Letter from Lord Farrer 1930.jpg to discuss that file. In general, a work falls in the public domain 70 years after the death of the author. There are a lot of exceptions to that, but that's what usually applies outside the US. Do I understand correctly this is a copy of a letter from the 1500s or 1600s? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Clearly not, it is dated 1930, and written on a typewriter. - Jmabel ! talk 19:08, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
@Alvanhholmes: I guess File:Farrar's Island Marker K199.jpg was deleted either because it was somebody else's photo, and they didn't release it with a free license, or because it's a photo of a copyrighted sign. Where are the other similar images you are referring to? Presumably in Category:Historical markers in Virginia? --ghouston (talk) 21:53, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Flickr imagesEdit

There is an option for LicenseReviewers, Administrators and Extended Upload User in UploadWizard for direct transfer of files from Flickr. I am a user with no rights. So, I want to ask that if there is any option to enable the feature for me.--√Tæ√ 13:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

@:, maybe it would be better to propose this at the Village pump to enable this for all users, there is a Flickr review bot and the MediaWiki Upload Wizard is way better at detecting duplicates than Magnus Manske's Flickr2Commons, I personally can't see why users need to be "trusted" to upload images that will automatically go through a review process anyhow so it would be best to try to expand the users who could use it. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
@Donald Trung: Truly manual uploads of images from Flickr do not "automatically go through a review process anyhow". I suspect Tæ had some help, maybe from Flinfo.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 17:43, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
@: Commons:Flickr2Commons is a useful tool, but it must be used with caution. I have just marked some of your transfers as probably inadvertent copyright violations: merely because someone posts an image to Flickr with a free license does not ensure they are the copyright holders of that image: derivative works and potential signs of license laundering should be avoided. Cheers, --Animalparty (talk) 23:24, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Images First Vatican Council Photograph AlbumEdit

Hello! Here there are a lot of pics of Council Fathers of Vatican I, and are tagged as "Usage & Reproduction Rights No Copyright - United States (NoC-US)", but I'm not sure how to upload them. Can anybody help me? --Norrin strange (talk) 14:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Source inforamtionEdit

What would be the source information of File:Centenaire 1914-1918.jpeg