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Mimosa pudica flowerEdit

Will this qualify for FP, thanks Deepugn (talk) 03:54, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

  Comment Sorry, it is not very sharp and it has too much image noise for FP. What kind of lens was used? For this type of photo, I would recommend moving close and using a high quality 90mm macro lens rather than stand far away with a 420mm lens. dllu (t,c) 23:46, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Storsjön, Sandviken - Pier near bångsEdit

I'd really appreciate any feedback on this image, as far as Quality images or Featured Pictures go. Ciridae (talk) 09:14, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Take this for what it's worth, and I hope people with more technical knowledge say something, but, here are my comments: I like the composition, but it's a bit noisy with some pixellation in the sky. Fix that and nominate for QI. I don't see this as an FP. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:59, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Washington MonumentEdit

I took this photo earlier this year and was wondering if it is a valid candidate for a featured photo? --Mikehadd12 (talk) 04:40, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Mikehadd12, not trying to discourage you, however this not sharp enough, it's very haze, and the obelisk is tilted. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 05:09, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Eristalinus megacephalusEdit

Hi Guys,

Thanks in advance, it would be great if anyone could find time to give a review of this picture of Eristalinus megacephalus, is it good to put this as an FP candidate Deepugn (talk) 14:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, the depth of field of the picture do not cover all the main subject. It's normal in macro photography, however it's important, especially in a case of educational oriented pictures, our case here. Also, have some chromatic aberration, that could be fixed in post... and weird choice of proportion, it's almost a square, you could there. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 17:55, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Deepugn (talk) 13:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

DamselflyEdit

Really appreciate a feedback on this, thanks Deepugn (talk) 13:10, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Deepugn, same problem as the previous one. Weird framing, and proportion of the frame. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 21:35, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Really good moment captured, but the depth of field is too shallow, as the photo is not sharp enough for FP or QI, in my opinion. I don't find the shape of the picture frame strange, for whatever that's worth, but I think that whereas I don't really care about that in most cases, many others on this site do. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Bubulcus ibis (Cattle Egret)Edit

Hi everyone. I was looking for some feedback on this image. It just passed QI and was considering if it had a shot at perhaps FP? Either way any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks! Mifter (talk) 16:38, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi Mifter, I like it in general, but I'm not sure whether I'd give it a pro at FPC. First, the white areas at the top are about as bright as the bird, and as the eye is typically drawn to the brightest point in an image, they they steal away some of the viewer's attention. Second, there is more empty space to the left of the head than to the right, but normally you'd want more space in front of the subjects face than behind it (en:Lead room). I've made an approximate crop suggestion in an image note (feel free to remove it!) that could help to mitigate these two points – unfortunately, you'd lose the purple flowers on the left. If the image is already cropped and you've got some additional space on the right, you could add that and go with a wider crop of course. Finally, you may not have noticed that there is a relatively new rule at Commons FP, that disqualifies images that are licensed GFDL only or GFDL + CC-BY-SA-ND, so I fear that with your current license selection it will be rejected. Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi El Grafo, thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. The image as you see it is slightly cropped in (the original is 12.1 megapixels vs 10.5 for the crop as I was trying to go for a golden spiral crop on the birds head.). Going back to the original, I made two crops - here and here to try and gain some lead room while keeping some of the purple flowers, let me know what you think if you have a moment. Regarding the new(ish) FP license restriction, thank you for informing me. It is disappointing to hear about as I'm generally willing to consider re-licensing images if asked but find a categorical exclusion rather heavy handed. Thanks again for your input. Best, Mifter (talk) 03:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi Mifter, difficult choice. I like the purple flowers, but I think crop 2 works better, so I'd go for that one. --El Grafo (talk) 09:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


ChrysanthemumEdit

 
Chrysanthemum

Using a very wide angle 15mm lens (on full frame) with a close-focus adapter, I captured this in October 2015 with the flower merely a few centimetres away from the lens. What do people think about it? Is the extreme field curvature causing the petals to be blurry a fatal flaw? Is the second flower on the bottom of the picture ruining the symmetry of the composition? dllu (t,c) 22:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

@Dllu: Wide-angle macro, that's certainly something we don't see all that often. Reminds me a bit of the sample images I've seen from the Laowa 15mm f/4 1:1 macro lens. You get a lot of the environment in a macro shot with this, which can work out very nicely (and I think in general it does here). Personally, I don't mind the softness too much aesthetically (and the more I look at it … I think I actually like it), but it's difficult to predict what people over at FPC would say, for example. I'm not sure about the second flower on the bottom. It is darker than the main flower, so you've still got a bit of separation between them. But the other one at the ca. 10:30 o'clock position is quite disturbing for me. --El Grafo (talk) 18:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Photograph of churchEdit

Looking for a second opinion: Is this photo Quality-image worthy? Thanks! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:03, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi there. Right now, this wouldn't pass QIC. You need to do some kind of perspective correction, because I feel pretty safe in assuming that the church doesn't actually look the way you're depicting it. The left crop could be more spacious, too, but if that's all you've got, make the perspective correction and try a QIC nomination. I can't be sure one way or the other on passing even with perspective correction, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm not very familiar with the criteria for Quality Images, but for me, the biggest issue is the overexposure in the white, sunlit surfaces of the church and the building in the background. These also come with significant chromatic aberrations and purple fringing. I don't know if it's the sensor or the JPEG compression, but the whole image has a mottled feel to it at when viewed at 100%. These issues will be hard to overcome without equipment with manual exposure control, a bigger and better sensor, better glass and the possibility to use polarizing filters. LX (talk, contribs) 12:47, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
All right, thank you both. I think those corrections are pretty far over my head, so I will just take your verdict of "not QIC-quality". :) Thanks again for your help! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 20:01, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Possible FP or not?Edit

I hope it's not too strange for me to ask a question about someone else's picture. I think this photo of a barbary macaque is so funny, with the monkey's mischievous expression while he probably breaks a car's antenna. I would nominate it to FPC just because it's well-composed and funny. However, one could criticize the sharpness of the monkey, the glariness of the sky, and maybe even consider the anti-avalanche mesh a distracting background. My rejoinder would be that the monkey is sharp enough, especially since you miss the point of a humorous photo by pixel-peeping, and there are days that look exactly as depicted. So what do you think? Is this worth an FPC nomination, or would it get picked apart on technical grounds? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:28, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

  •   Comment Though it is an amusing photo, it just seems like a snapshot to me. You are right that the technical quality is poor (and I don't think the monkey is sharp enough). If it were a photo of a rare or extinct animal, the lack of sharpness could be excused. But these friendly monkeys come and play with man-made objects all the time and almost always have such a mischievous expression. They are a popular tourist attraction and hundreds of photos of them must be getting taken every day at least, so I don't think this moment in particular is special enough to warrant an FP. dllu (t,c) 01:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks a lot. That makes sense. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:48, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Flowers and the Alcatraz Water Tower.jpgEdit

 
Flowers with the Alcatraz Water Tower in the background

I captured this picture on Alcatraz Island, a fascinating island with a rich history. I wanted to juxtapose the vibrant flowers with the Alcatraz water tower, an austere symbol of the most notorious prison of the United States. I was a bit disappointed that it is declined at QIC (insufficient depth of field) but I was wondering what I should do to improve this, or if the idea works at all. Is the tower simply too ugly? Should I have stopped down to f/16 or something (the photo was taken at f/8)? dllu (t,c) 05:01, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

dllu, if you choose to do it again focus stacking is a better option, because if you close more the sharpness will drop, every less have a sweet spot, closing more than the necessary the diffraction will interfere in the image quality.
It also is too dark, you could bring more from shadows.
about the subject, I can't see a real contrast and a good history there, a barbed wire, something more violent would create this contrast the water tower.. not so much. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 09:25, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Shinko cultivar photosEdit

I have 12 photos of this here: User:PumpkinSky/Uploads/2017 in the Shinko section. Some aren't worthy of VI or QI nomination. But I think some are worhty of VI or maybe even QI nomination, but I'm not sure which one is best. Any advice appreciated. PumpkinSky talk 18:41, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi @PumpkinSky: I'd say the first 5 taken with the mobile phone would probably be rejected at QI (but not necessarily at VI), as they show some strange artefacts when viewed at 100% magnification. Looking at the remaining ones, some are over-all unsharp (e.g. File:Pyrus pyrifolia (Shinko) inflorescence4.JPG), require more depth of field (e.g. File:Pyrus pyrifolia (Shinko) inflorescence-fruit buds.JPG) or are not focused on the main subject (e.g. File:Pyrus_pyrifolia_(Shinko)_inflorescence3.JPG). But File:Pyrus pyrifolia (Shinko) inflorescence2.JPG is pretty good imho, as most of the front flower is in focus. I don't know how good your chances are at QI, but I think this one might be worth a try. For VI I would probably go for File:Pyrus pyrifolia (Shinko) inflorescence 3.jpg, as it shows the pink/purple parts of the flower nicely (unless it's not typical for the species/cultivar to have so many of them).
Looking at your settings with the DSLR: As a general rule of thumb, for close-ups like this you usually want to stop down your aperture to at least F8, possibly more, as 1) this brings you more depth of field (= more of the subject will be sharp) and 2) over-all lens performance usually increases if stopped down an f-stop or two, so something around F8-F11 may well be close to the sharpness sweet-spot of your lenses (that's something you have to try out yourself; you can try to stop down even further, but at some point diffraction will become an issue, compare sample images at de:Beugungsunschärfe#Bildbeispiele). Hope that helps a bit, --El Grafo (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@El Grafo: Thank you so much!! This is the exact sort of detailed feedback I was looking for. I have another lens arriving tomorrow and will test that one out. Thanks again. @Ikan Kekek: Pinging you just as FYI. Thank you both, you've both been very kind. PumpkinSky talk 18:35, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@El Grafo: After reading your comments and looking over the photos, I understand much better what to do and look for. I agree, File:Pyrus pyrifolia (Shinko) inflorescence2.JPG is the best and I'm now going to put it up for VI. PumpkinSky talk 21:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
@El Grafo: and @Ikan Kekek: Peulle promoted it to QI !!! Thanks guys! I'm also copying this thread to my Shinko section I linked to above to use as a reference tool. PumpkinSky talk 21:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Sumatran TigerEdit

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering what people think about this image. How can it be improved, I'd love to see it at QI (or VI) level. Thanks for any advice you can give! -- Jjm596 (talk) 18:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I am not a expert on photography (just learning) but hope you find my coments helpful, the reflections over tiger head and body are unpleasant, the dark framework seems to be more relevant in the photo than the tiger as it is in a central position its contrast and sharpness are better than the tiger, so it is very distracting from the main subject.
Regards --Cvmontuy (talk) 14:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, I've cropped it and hopefully the focus is more on the tiger now. Shame about the reflections, though. --Jjm596 (talk) 16:55, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
To me the side of his face near the window looks darker than the side away from the window. PumpkinSky talk 18:15, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that is because the 'viewing area' i.e. where the photo was taken from, is partially indoors--Jjm596 (talk) 19:43, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
  •   Comment In addition to the unfortunate frame on the left and the distracting reflections on the right, there is a green colour cast to the image (probably due to the glass or automatic white balance of the camera) which does the orange subject a disservice. dllu (t,c) 18:59, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I will see what I can do about the green tint. Can I ask please, which do you think is the better of the these; the current version as seen here, or this one (which at least blocks out the left frame). Or perhaps even the original image? Thanks--Jjm596 (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Airport hall in MexicoEdit

This is a QI but can be a FP?

--Cvmontuy (talk) 14:00, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I think it's a bit of a problem that the leading lines guide the eye to the center of the image, but that part is not really in focus, as far as I can tell. Or you used a very small aperture and that's why it is not very sharp overall, I can't tell because the EXIF seems to be a little jumbled. The exposure time definitely suggests a small aperture. So maybe focus stacking would have helped. In general, I would set the quality bar pretty high for the photo because the subject is not that unusual or exciting in and of itself. In my opinion. — Julian H. 15:19, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your comment, today I have learned a couple of things, the Tokina lens is manual so no feed back on aperture but it was small, regards --Cvmontuy (talk) 23:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Thai Game chickenEdit

I'd appreciate input on how this could be better. As for the other chickens in the photo, they were all moving around a lot and this was the by far the best shot that I got. Thank you. PumpkinSky talk 09:37, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

  •   Comment I think the photo can be improved by leaving more space in front of the chicken than behind. See: en:Lead room. Also, the photo seems a bit dark. dllu (t,c) 21:43, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
    • Thank you. Note I think the sharpness of the feathers is pretty good, especially the upper ones. PumpkinSky talk 22:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
      • Hey PumpkinSky, nice work here. The focus and sharpness are good, which is always a tricky feat to accomplish when your subjects are darting around. One of the biggest considerations for me is always neatness around the edges of the frame and eliminating distracting elements that don't benefit the main subject. In that regard, I think the image could be improved by going for a square crop that gets rid of the unsharp, cropped-off chickens on the right. The tail feathers on the bottom-left are not ideal, but not quite as obtrusive IMO. This would improve the framing and allow for the suggestion of lead room. It's a large file, so you have lots of resolution to work with. Good to see you around, by the way - it's been quite a while! –Juliancolton | Talk 03:01, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
      • Hey, Juliancolton, nice to see you again too. Yea, I've been mostly inactive and I have this photo hobby now. That's mostly what I do on wiki these days. I got the camera a few weeks ago. So I'm a newbie at this, but I'm trying to get better. I don't do much on en wiki. I've cropped per suggestions as a newer version so you should now see the cropped version on this page. Let me know what you and dllu think. Cropping is about all I know how to do so far; I'm not near where I can do things like remove shadows, so if it needs that, feel free. If you think it'd make QI or something, let me know. Thanks folks. PumpkinSky talk 09:07, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Juliancolton, I went ahead and put it up at QIC, first one for 13 April. PumpkinSky talk 05:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
  •   Comment Looks good to me. dllu (t,c) 08:41, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

File:Panorama of AT&T Park at night.jpgEdit

 
Panorama of a baseball stadium in San Francisco.

I painstakingly took this panorama on a midnight photo walk on Sunday, equipped with an adapted manual 50mm f/2.6 lens. The panorama consists of 42 frames (3 exposures, 2 rows of 7 portrait frames). What do people think of the composition? Should I clone out the lens flares (they are real lens flares due to extremely bright floodlights), or should I reshoot this with my Zeiss lens with much better coatings and flare resistance? dllu (t,c) 09:14, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@Dllu: nice one, it's obvious you put a lot of work into this! FPC candidate for me if you can get rid of the flares: Lens flare can of course be used as a stylistic device, but in this case I find those large blue blotches on the right pretty disturbing. They look like some kind of artefact and are not even easily recognized for what they are. Same for the purple spots, though I must admit that I find that large UFO-like one on the left kind of funny ;-). I like the composition, if anything the rocks in the foreground might be a tad too dominant (or maybe not, I didn't try cropping). "50mm f/2.6" sounds like a macro lens? Certainly delivers in terms of sharpness. The streaks are interesting, without the description I would have guessed for bats hunting for insects attracted to the floodlights. Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 09:51, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks! I'll clone out the flares when I have time. The lens used was a Myutron FV5026W-F that is supposedly optimized for infinity focus and it is quite sharp. It's also useful for panoramas since it has very little distortion, no vignetting whatsoever, and has a set screw that can keep the aperture and focus ring fixed. Flaring is a severe drawback of this lens though, since it was designed for machine vision applications with controlled lighting. dllu (t,c) 20:50, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

QI nominationEdit

I have 10 photos that i don´t know if they are worhty to a QI nomination. Any advice? Thanks. Vanbasten 23 (talk) 15:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Starting at zeroEdit

 
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I have uploaded this completely unprocessed image for input on what I can do with similar images to make them better and potentially FP or at least QI quality. I also want to learn how to make the best of what equipment and skill I have. I'm guessing this particular image is not ever going to be FP quality (even I think it's a bit boring), but it's here for me to learn from in terms of cropping, post-processing image enhancement, and what "operator errors" I made with the camera settings. I provided more info on the image, above and beyond the EXIF data, at File talk:Grazing Montana Horses.jpg and would welcome more in-depth discussion there, if it would be convenient. At present, my limitations are: 1) I'm not purchasing more lenses or another camera (for now--we'll see in 5 years...) 2) I don't have Photoshop and I really don't want to have to buy it. 3) My computer is a MacBook Pro laptop, so I don't know what, if anything can be done to help the monitor "pass" the calibration test because it's not (and it changes--some things better, some worse--if I tilt the screen, too... ). Any input is much appreciated. Montanabw (talk) 17:33, 22 April 2017 (UTC)