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This workshop is part of the Graphics Lab, a project aimed at picture retouching to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. More information about the lab can be found on its main page and requests pages (Illustrations ; Photographs ; Maps ; Video and Sound). To ask questions or make a suggestions, see the talk page of the graphic lab page.

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Sutton Hoo helmet design 2Edit

Article(s): en:Sutton Hoo helmet

Could somebody please create a version of design 2 from the Sutton Hoo helmet? An example can be seen here, but I can email a high quality version from which to trace. Ideally this should result in something similar to this version of design 1, which Goran tek-en kindly created last year. --Usernameunique (talk) 06:02, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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  Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC) Usernameunique Will get back to you soon but you can send me the high resolution meanwhile. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Sent, thanks! --Usernameunique (talk) 06:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Usernameunique This is not so clear to what is known or not as the other one. I'm working on it but it will take a bit of time, other parts of life also need it's time, I will be back. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Usernameunique Now I need your help to check so I got all the known parts in this draft. Please check so I got all the known parts, it's quit difficult in some areas. After your feedback I will continue to work but be aware that this might take some time, hope you understand, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Goran tek-en. I'll take a look and follow up shortly. There's no rush at all as far as I'm concerned—this is the most complicated design on the helmet (by far), and I really appreciate your volunteering to help with it. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Goran tek-en, this looks great. As you said, this is a very difficult design, but I only have a few nits:
1) The "known" part of the horse's head is a little smaller. It should be brought in a tad, with the outlines shown as "reconstructed".
2) The triangular portion that is highlighted below the horse's head (i.e., in the space between its head/neck and the strap that the figure with the sword is grasping) is mostly empty space—its primary significance is that makes the outline of the horse's neck "known".
3) A few parts of the horse should be marked as "known":
a) The chest of the horse (the small portion right where the sword enters)
b) The shaded section a little to the right of this (next to the vertical "hair" which is next to the shield)
c) The shaded sections beneath the shield
d) The small shaded sections to the right of the back-strap (above the horse's hind legs)
e) The egg-shaved ovals in the strap (and to its right) --Usernameunique (talk) 03:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Usernameunique As all the lines between known and unknown doesn't follow the shaded parts it's hard to know exactly where. To me they have shown the unknown parts/things/objects with dashed lines and not the whole unknown area and it's not shaded. So I have guessed in some parts.
1) I don't understand the word "tad" and how do you mean by smaller? Is it possible for you draw lines on my draft and send me. 2) Yes, to me that is a part of the horses throat and it will be mainly shaded to show the shape. It will be more clear later on. 3)

a) Yes
b) Yes
c) Yes
d) Yes
e) Yes, thanks for this. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:16, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Goran tek-en. I just emailed you with an image of the horse's head; let me know if that is clear, or if you have any questions about it. By the way, "a tad" is just a colloquial term for "a little" or "slightly." --Usernameunique (talk) 15:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Usernameunique This design has a background also which the previous didn't have.
Do you know what it is sticking out down to the left, I don't understand?
Draft with known parts and transparent unknown parts.
Draft with known parts and unknown parts as green. Fwwdback thanks and I will work on the unknown parts meanwhile. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Usernameunique Just wanted to check if you have seen the info above. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:32, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay, Goran tek-en. Just one very minor comment: the vertical line that forms part of the rider's arm and that is directly next to where the reconstructed sword hilt is reconstructed, not known. I'll send you an email highlighting the area, to be clear. By the way, I see the drafts are pngs; will it be possible to render the final versions as svgs?
The thing that is sticking out down to the left is a scabbard. From a book on the subject: "The scabbard, though in a somewhat abnormal position in relation to the wearer's body, neatly fills the empty space that would otherwise exist under the fallen warrior's back in this corner of the panel. ... The position of the scabbard may have relevance to the method by which the sword was suspended. It is explicable if the sword was carried on a baldric or shoulder strap, but not if attached at or below the waist." --Usernameunique (talk) 17:53, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Usernameunique Thanks for info. I forgot to tell you that of course I work in svg and the files to be uploaded will be svg. The server where I show my drafts doesn't render svg's the same way as wikimedia does, so that is why I show my drafts as png. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Usernameunique I had an incident in the family so it might be a few weeks before I continue, it's hard to say right now. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:12, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

No problem, Goran tek-en, take your time. Hope your family's doing okay. —Usernameunique (talk) 19:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Usernameunique Now there is a draft for you to check.
Here you can see some red lines. It shows two areas at which you have to decide what to do.
  • To the left, to my understanding, it is like a harness that goes around the front of the horse. Do you think I should add that?
  • To the right I think the behind legs should be moved backwards to meet with the known line. DO you think I should adjust it? Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Image of superionic waterEdit

Article(s): en:Superionic water

Superionic water has gotten a lot of press within the last year since it was reported here, and I think it might be nice to have an image of it.
It would look something like the images in Fig. 2a of this paper, where the red dots represent H+ and the white ones represent O2-. A key component of the diagram will be to show that the O2- ions are fixed in the lattice, but that the H+ ions are free to move through it. If there is no voltage applied across the system, then they will bounce around randomly, but if there is a voltage, then the system will conduct it and the H+ ions will all move in the same direction through the holes of the lattice, parallel to the electric field.
As far as the details of how the lattice should look, it should be body-centered, not face-centered, and probably space-filling. If you want to put units on it, the distance between planes of O2- in the crystal is about 1.8 Å.
Thanks, and let me know if there are any questions! --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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Sorry about that! I fixed both issues above (I hope). Does that help? --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:25, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
The captions are clearer now, thanks. However, I'm an electrical/computer guy and based on Fig. 2 I don't think I could competently handle chemical stuff, sorry. Maybe someone else here is up to it! —RCraig09 (talk) 20:19, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt I might be able to help you, I have done some other things similar to this like File:NaCl_polyhedra.svg but I'm a graphic worker and don't have any background knowledge for your request. This means that you have to explain in common language and explain more for me.
  • The image 2A are 2 dimensional but the images you have added here are a gitter in 3 dimensions. So which should the new image be in?
  • I actually don't fully understand what you mean is the difference between face- and body-centered, you will have to explain that more?
  • You also say you want it to be space-filling. Do you by this mean that you want H+ and O2- sizes be in relation to each other? If so then you have to state the relation.
  • You also write that H+ behave differently for voltage or no voltage and you want that to be shown. Does this mean you want two different images?
  • Once I understand the things above I will also need more info about the linked image 2a. I do hope you understand that it's hard for us graphic workers to understand this with out info. Please ping me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:52, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi Goran tek-en, thanks very much for being willing to work on this. Here goes:
  • To start, I would make something very similar to File:NaCl_polyhedra.svg, but with all the atoms being red and the same size, and the bonds between them being a bit thinner. The only major thing that will need to be changed about that figure is that it's face-centered, and would need to be body-centered. The way to think about the difference is that if you can draw a cube that touches all the atoms in a unit cell of the lattice, then it's face-centered. If it doesn't touch all of them, then it's body-centered. Does that help to understand the images shown above here? To get this from the image you have, I would just add an extra atom in the middle of each of the cubes (unit cells) in the lattice.
  • Then you can add the H+ ions. We'll need to think carefully about this part, because it's scientifically the most important part of the figure. This is what distinguishes superionic ice from regular ice: in regular ice, the two H+ ions stay pretty close to their O2- ion, but in ionic ice, they're free to move around through the holes of the lattice. That's what fig. 2 in that paper is trying to show. This is important because it means that ionic ice can conduct electricity, while regular ice can't. That's the exciting part about this discovery. To demonstrate this concept, I'm imagining something like this pair of images, showing that the electrons in a wire are free to move around, and it's not until you give them a positively-charged end to migrate to that they start to all move in the same direction (this unidirectional movement is what we know as an electric current). I actually really like this figure from a scientific standpoint, even if it's not the prettiest.
I hope that helps some, but please let me know if you have more questions. Rob Hurt (talk) 00:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

  Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt Thanks for the information and I found that we have a page that explains body- face- thing.

  • Then I suggest that we start with the base lattice and the red atoms, which are they: H+ or O2-?
  • Can you tell me how many atoms you want on the different axis, x y z?
  • What is the distance between the atoms in atoms diameter (2,5 times or something else) and if they differ in x y z?
  • Should the atoms be solid or have some transparency?

Please always ping me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en:, this sounds great.
  • I think the number of atoms and the transparency is up to you--whatever makes the presentation of the scientific concepts the most clear. Could those be easily changed later?
  • The red atoms in the lattice would be O2-
  • In terms of the lattice spacing, I would make the distances match up to the fifth image above, with the ratio of r:a being about 1:4.
Hope that helps some, Rob Hurt (talk) 02:20, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt No, it's not easy to change later on, that's why I ask. So think about it and let me know, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: Then I'd make it 3x3x3 O2- ions. The most important part is to show the behavior of the H+ ions passing through the lattice, so let's not make the lattice include so many O2- ions that it's hard to see the behaviors of individual H+ ions. Rob Hurt (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt I want you to check this draft to see so the sizes, distances etc is what you want. I have only worked with the top left atom and its bindings so it doesn't looks correct for the rest. So give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: happy to, could you set the permissions so I can view it? Rob Hurt (talk) 17:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt Sorry, fixed. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: I think this looks great, the only thing I might change is to make the lines slightly thicker so it’s a bit easier for the eye to perceive the depth. Rob Hurt (talk) 04:58, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt This is a draft with the lattice of the O2-. Check this and give me feedback on that part.
After that, to my understanding you want to show different states; 1-no voltage, 2- a voltage.
1. The H+ bounce around randomly.
2. The H+all move the same, parallel to the electric field.
  • So we should do two illustrations?
  • Which size (compared to O2-) and color should H+ have?
  • How many in each cubic hole? --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:03, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: I think this looks great. Yes, let's do two images, similar to this. The H+ is usually shown as white, and would be about half the diameter of O2-. There should be two H+ for each O2-. Thanks again, and let me know if you have more questions. Rob Hurt (talk) 00:55, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Rob Hurt Does the H+ move in the same direction (no voltage) all the time once it has started to move, or do they change direction every now and then? --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:07, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
@Goran tek-en: should be completely random Brownian_motion with no voltage, just bouncing off each other and the O2- in the lattice. Rob Hurt (talk) 03:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Please create a sketch for Bruce PayneEdit

Article(s): Bruce Payne

Hello, article of the English actor Bruce Payne does not have any image since its creation in 2005-06 and it has "9,222 pageviews" from 30 days ago, there was no image of him in here and I couldn't find any free image for him, and unfortunately I don't have any Twitter or Facebook account to ask him donate an image, even if he has one official account. I saw that the article Anders Behring Breivik uses a free digital sketch of him, and in Category:Emma Watson there are some painting of her, so can someone please create a basic sketch or painting for Mr. Bruce Payne so that we can use it for the infobox in all WP languages? since he is sill alive, it is not possible to use a copy-righted image as fair use. I will be really grateful, thanks. -- Editor-1 (talk) 13:41, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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GIF explanation to PRC vs ROC vs TaiwanEdit

Article(s): Taiwan

I am hoping to create simple maps with two-line captions and one simple GIF illustration to explain the problematic confusion between the ROC between 1912 and 1949 (aka China) and the ROC from 1949 to today (aka Taiwan), but I dont have SVG editing skills.
  1. 1st map (before 1895) would look like File:Ching Dynasty 1892.png. Coloured in yellow. Caption: before 1895 Qing dynasty
  2. 2nd map (1895) like File:Ching Dynasty 1896.png. China coloured in yellow. Taiwan coloured in white or ivory? Caption: 1895 Formosa (Taiwan) ceded to Japan
  3. 3rd map like File:China blank map (1936).svg. China coloured in blue. Taiwan coloured like 2nd map. Caption: 1912 Republic of China (ROC) established
  4. 4th map like File:People's Republic of China - Taiwan.svg (Mongolia became independent). China and Taiwan coloured in blue. Caption: 1945 Japan lost WWII Taiwan handed over to ROC
  5. 5th map like 4th map. China coloured in Red. Taiwan in blue. Caption: People's Republic of China (PRC), established in 1949, is commonly referred to as China. Republic of China (ROC), which retreated to Taiwan and other islands, is commonly referred to as Taiwan.
All other countries should be coloured in gray and no borders shown, because borders changed too often and they are not really what this series addresses.
Finally, combine them into one GIF.
So we have 6 files to easily explain this confusion.--RZuo (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
File:China in 1911.svg might be a good base map to work on. This can serve as the base for maps #1,2,3.
File:China in 1950.svg can serve for maps #4,5.
For maps #4,5 It's also easier to understand if you put in the flags of ROC and PRC File:Flag of the Republic of China.svg File:Flag of the People's Republic of China.svg. (Not for map #3!)--RZuo (talk) 20:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
I would like to check the five SVG first before making the GIF. Also please overwrite my sketch with the finished GIF and you can use whichever licence you prefer. It will of course be credited to you.--RZuo (talk) 20:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Article(s): en:Anti-Defamation League

Please remove the slogan -- 01:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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  Done --Mrmw (talk) 06:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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Seal of John C. Carney, Governor of Delaware.svgEdit

Article(s): en:Seals of governors of the U.S. states

The seal now shown for Delaware is obsolete. In the new seal, the text "JACK MARKELL" should be replaced by "JOHN C. CARNEY". (See this image.)  --Lambiam 18:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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@Lambiam:   Done --Mrmw (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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arms of Diego de VargasEdit

see also diagram from Kiva, Cross, Crown from the NPS

Article(s): en:Diego de Vargas, maybe also en:statue of Diego de Vargas

I would like to request a vector recreation of these arms (was not able to find if there was a heraldry working group on Commons). I noticed that these are similar but different; I am not sure if one or both are in error or the arms merely changed during de Vargas' lifetime, but either way having the files would be useful, particularly since the depiction itself of de Vargas has become relevant recently. I would imagine that parts of contemporary arms from the Spanish Empire might be useful in creating the SVG. --Arlo James Barnes 20:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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@Arlo Barnes: The Wikidata Q numbers you specified for File:De Vargas arms painting.jpg are identical.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 05:59, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: No, they are separated by 100 and refer to two separate physical paintings in two places in the world, one in Spain and a copy in New Mexico. Being an original and a copy, they should be near-identical in appearance, but as Commons only has a photo/scan of the copy, I cannot confirm this. Arlo James Barnes 20:10, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Map Images of Madawaska CountyEdit

Article(s): Madawaska Parish, New Brunswick; Saint-Jacques Parish, New Brunswick; Saint-Joseph Parish, New Brunswick (all on English site; I tried to link but wasted significant time for no result)

Please add a caption to the effect that the map is inaccurate. Both Madawaska and Saint-Jacques Parishes are bisected by Saint-Joseph Parish and both their northeastern portions are shown as part of Saint-Joseph Parish. The descriptions in the Territorial Division Act and on cadastral map numbers 9 and 20 are evidence of this error. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 00:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
I formed links above. —RCraig09 (talk) 04:22, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Symptoms of coronavirus disease 2019 4.0-csEdit



Hello, I uploaded File:Symptoms of coronavirus disease 2019 4.0-cs.svg, but text is not in Czech, but in English. How to translate text correctly (like here)? --Patriccck (talk) 16:46, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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@Patriccck: try this --Mrmw (talk) 21:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
@Mrmw: Apparently you didn't understand me, maybe I wrote it badly. This file is translated to Czech language, but I must use param lang=cs. I want defult Czech language like here. Do you understand? Patriccck (talk) 18:13, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Simple graphicsEdit

Article(s): I need these for en:Cleavage (breasts), an article I believe is on the way to become at least a Good Article

These are low res, bad finishing, badly colored images. Cleaning them up, enlarging them somewhat and enhancing the color would be highly useful. Aditya (talk) 17:13, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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double-request: en:WP:GL/I#Request
Yes. For lack of response. Is there anyone who would lend a hand? Aditya (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
No takers? :( Aditya (talk) 23:56, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
  ResolvedHelp recieved at the other workshop.

Northern Rhodesia Regiment crestEdit

Article(s): en:Northern Rhodesia Regiment

Can an SVG vector be made of the cap badge for ther Northern Rhodesia Regiment please? The C of E (talk) 08:00, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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Fix typo in SVGEdit

Article(s): Coat of arms of Mississippi

Fix typo in SVG
SVG has typo, says "at" instead of "et". JPG linked to show what it should look like. --– Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 02:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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Revised version is uploaded. Let me know if anything is amiss!   DoneRCraig09 (talk) 18:12, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

@Illegitimate Barrister: Kindly check. --Minoraxtalk (formerly 大诺史) 06:07, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Vectorize PNG imagesEdit

Article(s): Black Is King

Hi! Anyone that could make these images into SVG files/format? The poster is the most important. Thanks --Premeditated (talk) 09:01, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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Pastel Neurodiversity symbol into SVGEdit

Hello. is anyone could change this file into SVG? Because the creator created it with Clipstudio, It should be re-written into vector-based and enhanced. - Ellif (talk) 19:11, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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Pinging @MissLunaRose12 as uploader.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 19:22, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ellif:   Done --Mrmw (talk) 20:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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Communist Party of Spain emblem, 1930sEdit

Article(s): es:Partido Comunista de España

Can we improve and cleanup this raster so that it looks crisper and it can be re-usable in other articles? The source includes an original representation of the emblem for reference.--Fer1997 (talk) 09:37, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
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Article(s): en:NACA

please remove background outside of ring… --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:18, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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Tortoise speedEdit

en:Zeno's_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise fr:Paradoxe_d'Achille_et_de_la_tortue#Résolution_du_paradoxe


The image supposes that a tortoise can run 5 m/s. No source supports this speed. The world record is 0.28 m/s. The French Wikipedia allows that 5 m/s is "unlikely" but says that the 5 m/s speed "makes the graph more readable". I submit that the graph would be quite readable if it reflected a plausible speed of 0.2 m/s for the tortoise, and I have modified the English text accordingly. Please bring the figure into the realm of possibility, perhaps redrafting it as an SVG. Thanks.
--Peter M. Brown (talk) 00:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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@Peter M. Brown: hi, here you have the diagram as svg - in my opinion its not recommendable to use the real speed of the toiroise in the diagramm - it would mean a almost horizontal line
is there any discussion about this topic in english? --Mrmw (talk) 17:33, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Mrmw:No, there hasn't been and there should be. You're right, we can't use the real speed of the tortoise. The options seem to be:
  • No change.
  • Delete the graph from the articles, counting on the text to make the relevant points.
  • Modify the legend — it represents the course of the race if a tortoise could run at 5 m/s or if Achilles were racing a squirrel.
I will initiate a discussion of the matter and get back to you. I note that I have 60 days to do this.
If we keep using a graph, it would be nice to replace it with your SVG version. You would have to label the Achilles and tortoise (squirrel?) lines and label the axes "distance" and "time".
Thanks for your efforts.
Peter M. Brown (talk) 22:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
If nothing else, a graph should be prepared for French readers with labels "temps" and "tortue".
Peter M. Brown (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
@Peter M. Brown: i would like to keep the svg international - you could use fr:Modèle:Légende,
see: de:Achilles_und_die_Schildkröte#Mathematische_Lösung
--Mrmw (talk) 05:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

European Union Exclusive Economic ZonesEdit

Article(s): Various

Please can a new pre Brexit SVG version of this map be made and also create a second map which excludes the United Kingdom due to Brexit as the current map is of very poor Quality and I feel something much better can now be made.
(MOTORAL1987 (talk) 07:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC))
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Is there something wrong with this file?Edit

Article(s): en:Ontario Highway 407

This file appears to have some errors whenever it is displayed, most notably the yellow bar being slightly displaced, and the background between the black and blue frames is transparent. However, whenever I look in the file's page, the file appears to be perfectly fine. Can someone please check to see if there is anything wrong with this file? Thanks! --TextClick (talk) 23:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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