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July 12Edit

Wiki Loves Africa 2019 results are out !Edit

Playing in the Nuba mountains.jpg
And the Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2019 WINNERS are .... 1st place prize goes to the image Playing in the Nuba Mountains by Marco Gualazzini taken in South Sudan. 2nd Prize goes to Peekaboo by Summer Kamal taken in Egypt. 3rd prize goes to Teenagers in street by Mohamed Hozyen Ahmed (also from Egypt). The prize for Women in Sport goes to Girls fighting by Yvonne Youmbi from Cameroon. Finally, the prize for capturing a traditional form of play goes to Horses by Sofiane Mohammed Amri in Algeria. Congratulations to all the prize winners and all participants :)

All winners may be found here : Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2019/Winners

Anthere (talk)

July 15Edit

NASA Image and Video LibraryEdit

The NASA Image and Video Library is one of the main repositories of NASA images. From what I understand, it curates images from other NASA sites. It has an API to assist pulling metadata. Myself and others commonly upload images from the site, which is time consuming. I am proposing a tool similar to Flickr2Commons. At this time I do not have the skill set to make such a tool myself. I can discuss the specifics, but wanted to propose the idea here to see if such a tool could be supported. Kees08 (talk) 04:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

That would be a great idea, especially since NASA is a part of the United States government and their images are in the public domain and the fact that we already use a lot of images from NASA. If no volunteer would build it I'd suggest contacting the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) but that is rarely (if ever) fruitful. Have you tried approaching people who imported some of their works before with technical skills if they could help? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:33, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Javascript Canvas accessEdit

Hi,

since Commons-Images are originating from upload.wm.org, there is no way to script extensions on commons.wm.org that would have access to the imagedata, correct? I was experimenting with image analysis via canvas objects, but the blocker seems the getImageData() from upload.wm.org.

Anything I'm overlooking? Thanks --Aeroid (talk) 08:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

CORS is permitted on upload.wm.o, so in theory this should be possible. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Zhuyifei1999: I might be missing a piece to th puzzle, but it doesn't seem to work out of the box. Have you seen it working somewhere? --Aeroid (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Have you tried image.crossOrigin = 'anonymous';? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@Zhuyifei1999: Think, I got it. this.$toAnalyzeImg = $( '<img>' ).attr( 'crossorigin', 'anonymous'); ... needed to do this right at construction of the element. Couldn't do it later. Thanks!--Aeroid (talk) 21:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Android app: Feed for adding captionsEdit

Hi, we posted about this back in March, but we're soon launching this feature so we wanted to give a reminder (also going out in Tech News later today):

Soon, users of the Android Wikipedia app will be able to add captions to images on Commons. Those who take up that habit will be invited to the edit action feed, where they’ll be fed images from Commons (including descriptions) and be asked to add captions, or translate them to their language, where they are missing. This will only be shown to editors who have made a number of unreverted edits in the action feed (which also includes Wikidata descriptions). If an edit gets reverted, the the count starts at zero again. This is an anti-vandalism measure: we don’t want to specifically invite people to do this unless they’ve shown they can be reasonably trusted. There's a similar feature for Wikidata, and the vandalism rate for this feed has been much lower than for normal edits through the app.

The reason for these features s that our (in the general Wikimedia sense) readers mainly read the wikis on mobile phones; our editing tools are focused on desktop and keyboards. This will be a problem for us: Wikipedia (and thus Commons) became a big thing because everyone who read it could add information. If this is not true in the future, we’ll have a harder time getting new editors. The developers are working on a number of different solutions, including, of course, trying to make the kind of typical content creation that we’ve always done easier on mobile. However, we’re also looking into if there are specific tasks that could be specifically well suited for mobile users. You can read more at mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks and see how it looks, including screenshots, and ask questions or give feedback on the talk page. There will be a CC-0 notice. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 09:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Pre-creating categories for Wikimania 2019Edit

Every year during Wikimania there is some confusion about categorization of images, and it is usually quite some work to clean up and move images afterwards. In the volunteer group Knowledge savers we thought we should help out by pre-creating the most common categories, to help participants put their images in the right place from start. We recognize this is not standard procedure, but also promise to help clean up after the conference, should any categories remain unused. I did create a few categories before realizing this might need to be brought up. Is it okay if I continue or are there any strong opinions against doing this? Ainali (talk) 11:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Jan, that's no problem. For other events like WLE empty cats are created prospectively, too. I made up Category:Prospective categories/Wikimania. --Achim (talk) 16:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons - IRC office hour on Thursday, 18 JulyEdit

The Structured Data development team will hold an IRC office hour from 17:00-18:00 UTC on Thursday, 18 July, in #wikimedia-office on the freenode IRC network. Meta has information on joining the meeting, as well as date and time conversion. Please join us to discuss forming statements for structured data, properties that may need to be proposed on Wikidata, future plans for SDC, or anything else you might want to discuss. I look forward to seeing you there, I'll post a reminder before the meeting starts. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: happening todayEdit

The office hour is taking place in about two hours. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:00, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

July 16Edit

1.4 TB uploads helpEdit

Dear Wikimedians,

I am planning to upload 6000+ pdf scans (1.4 TB) of Chinese chorography books in public domain. My internet connection to wikimedia server using pywikibot is quite unstable. I am uploading text to Chinese Wikisource. The pywikibot often stops for errors when it runs on my Windows Server. But when I upload the text file to PAWS [1.2] and run the bot there, it can continue without disruption. So predictably, the big PDF upload will not work smoothly if I use pywikibot.

Is there any good ideas about the uploads? --維基小霸王 (talk) 09:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

If your server is public accessible you could have a loot at Help:Server-side upload. --GPSLeo (talk) 12:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
My server isn't public accessible. But the files are in a net drive and requires the last page removed. I will consider contact the staffs.--維基小霸王 (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
I have an unstable wired connection which goes via my home electricity, and unpredictably drops out and needs manually resetting every few weeks. My longer running Pywikibot uploads are designed to cope with connection failures by waiting for increasingly longer periods between retries. I suggest accepting the limitations of your connection for large uploads (so long as you are using chunk uploading anyway) and look at trapping errors so that your projects can brown out and recover rather than crashing. The good news is that your robust upload module will be reusable. -- (talk) 12:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Can I try your script?--維基小霸王 (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@維基小霸王: That's about 250MB for each PDF.. is that right? The limit for UploadWizard was recently raised from 50 to 500 files at a time for autopatrollers. That would theoretically allow you to upload them in 12 actions. Still a pain. I don't know if UploadWizard is more resilient to unstable connections. Maybe you could upload to archive.org and import from archive.org here. Also, make sure the compression is optimal. I assume the PDF files have JPEGs embedded, a tool like jpegoptim might help. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes. The average size is correct. I think UploadWizard is not quite stable in my chrome even when uploading 30 large files. I don't what to compress them because I see them as sacred history and want them to be backed up here as clear as possiblt.--維基小霸王 (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@維基小霸王: Just to clarify: "chorography" in the sense of "making maps" (an obscure word, I had to look it up) or is this a typo for something else? - Jmabel ! talk 15:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
The Chinese term 地方志 literally means "regional records". zhwp article is linked to the enwp article en:chorography, which says "Chorography (from χῶρος khōros, "place" and γράφειν graphein, "to write") is the art of describing or mapping a region or district,[1] and by extension such a description or map.[2]" I think this close to the Chinese term. Many 地方志 are written by local governments, covering aspects of the region, including history dating back to the ealiest time recorded and big events, population, literatures, government,successful students in imperial examinations, geography, engineering rojects and so on, like a local encyclopedia. Some of them covers only some aspects, and may be written by goverments or individuals. Some of them covers several regions, often contentrate on a particular aspect. Do you have a better word for this?--維基小霸王 (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
維基小霸王 -- a term more people would understand is Local History... -- AnonMoos (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

您好,想不到在这里见到您了,我有大量上传的工具以及稳定的IPv6上传渠道,上传失败可续传,如果需要我的帮助可以联系我。--MidleadingBot (talk) 15:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

I can't see pictures on CommonsEdit

I don't see pretty pictures

Is Commons not displaying pictures for everyone, or just for me? (I'm in the UK) I went to Wimbledon (talk) 17:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@I went to Wimbledon: This is probably a problem with your internet connection and/or a cache issue with your browser. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I’m having the same problem, although affecting only pages with many images, such as some of the bigger ones of Template:Bsicon. -- Tuválkin 01:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Today I noticed another problem, a delay of categorization. When I placed any picture or subcategory to any category, it is not visible at the category page and appears several minutes later. Maybe, all processes are busy and delayed. --ŠJů (talk) 17:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Bar stools?Edit

Riisipere bar.jpg
Can these wooden constructions be classified as 'Bar stools'?Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • I would say so, yes. Should Category:Bar stools be dissiminated to classify its contents «by type» or «by style», these oddballs would certainly deserve a special places, even if only in a mixbag. However I would for now categorize them as also Category:Wall mounted objects, which is a nudge in the right direction. -- Tuválkin 11:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

OSM down?Edit

Is it just me or is https://www.openstreetmap.org/ down? Not just the WMF interface with OSM data (which is spotty even in its best days), but their main page itself! -- Tuválkin 11:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

works fine for me, and others as well: https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/openstreetmap.org --El Grafo (talk) 11:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Notification of DMCA takedown demand - Kelly CutroneEdit

In compliance with the provisions of the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), and at the instruction of the Wikimedia Foundation's legal counsel, one or more files have been deleted from Commons. Please note that this is an official action of the WMF office which should not be undone. If you have valid grounds for a counter-claim under the DMCA, please contact me. The takedown can be read here.

Affected file(s):

To discuss this DMCA takedown, please go to COM:DMCA#Kelly Cutrone. Thank you! Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 22:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Is there a page where all of these are recorded like "Commons:WMF Office DMCA takedowns" or something? It might be handy to record them and then create sub-pages per year like "Commons:WMF Office DMCA takedowns/2018". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC) never mind, I missed the last sentence. I wonder if European actors can also initiate DMCA takedowns? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 08:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Sure. If a copyright-holder wants to get a copyviolating image taken down from Commons, Flickr or any other U.S.-based site, he/she needs to file a DMCA request. --Túrelio (talk) 09:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

July 17Edit

What is EDPL?Edit

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Pallavidoke

Most if not all of these images have a partially removed or faded watermark that says "© EDPL", probably best visible in File:Fountain in the Park.jpg. The strange thing is.. Who or what is EDPL? I can't figure it out. Google reverse image search doesn't seem to know the photos either. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

May be this one, which is in the same city as where the pictures were taken. Jcb (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Probably not, but it gave me the idea to search with different keywords. http://www.edplholidays.com/ or http://www.edpltravels.com/ seems more likely, but I still can't find a single photo with that watermark. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 15:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
An unlikely typo for w:European Union Public Licence? :) Nemo 14:01, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Increasing the rate limit for page movesEdit

Following Commons talk:File renaming#Ratelimit exceeded where Arjoopy ran into the rate limit with legitimate page moves, I created phab:T228317 to have the limit increased to 100 moves per minute. (which nobody is expected to run into)

This will only apply to file movers. The rate limit was designed to curb vandalism, so when legitimate users run into it, it's not configured correctly. As such, I choose not to seek consensus as this is a technical matter, like an oversensitive spam filter.

However, if you do have objections (keeping in mind this change will only affect file movers who must be vetted to obtain that right), you can voice your concerns either here or on phab:T228317. Thank you. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose The rate limit did it's job. The only time I found Arjoopy reaching the limit was when he moved files named "Birkungen" followed by an date. Other cases have 6 or less moves per minute, according to the time of the edits. After looking at the history of all of the moved files and the files in that category, it is clear that none of them did have dashes prior to being moved by Arjoopy. Despite that, Arjoopy moved the files to file titles with dashes on the grounds that they where being harmonized, which clearly is not the case. As such, the moves where not in an accordance with the Commons:File renaming policy. So, illegimate file moves.--Snaevar (talk) 20:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
+1 On what Snaevar said. Multichill (talk) 21:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Note there is another proposal on Commons:Village pump/Proposals#Double the rate limit for page moves, which is about doubling (from 8 to 16 per minute) rate limit for autoconfirmed and/or users with autopatrol flag. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 23:04, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Not anymore. I'm really sad about what Arjoopy did. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 07:26, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz contacted me on my talk page, where I explained why and to which scheme I harmonized the file names. I guess 80-90% of the approx. 5000 files in Category:Photographs by Michael Köhler have the yyyy-mm-dd scheme, harmonizing the rest is imo not against the Commons:File renaming policy; correct me if I'm wrong. Best regards, Arjoopy (talk) 08:19, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Pinging @Natuur12. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
I believe Arjoopy's interpretation of policy is valid but it seems that not everyone agrees. Natuur12 (talk) 14:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
I haven't expected to cause this discussion, but anyway, I'm an editor like anyone else here and when I bother to move dozens or hundreds of files by hand, I obviously do this for a reason. If you guys agree, I'd like to continue harmonizing the file names in Category:Photographs by Michael Köhler to the yyyy-mm-dd scheme; otherwise I stop doing this but imo that'd be a pity. Best regards, Arjoopy (talk) 15:57, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
You'll have to ask Snaevar and Multichill. I just feel like I got burned on this. All was looking well until they opposed. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:38, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

July 18Edit

How to delete a file?Edit

Hi everyone! I would like to delete this file: File:Panoramic view of Millau 05.jpg, cause it's no freedom of panorama. Can you help me? Tournasol7 (talk) 07:26, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

✓ Deleted. Next time, just add {{SD|G7}} to your recent uploads (unused, <7 days), or file a regular deletion request by clicking on "Nominate for deletion" on the left menu. 4nn1l2 (talk) 07:35, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Tournasol7 (talk) 22:34, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Roy17 (talk) 12:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

At sea date categoriesEdit

Ferry seen between Bodø and Spitsbergen.jpg

There is a problem when pictures are taken in international waters. You cant fall back to the country categories. I created Category:2018 at sea. But some structure is needed.Smiley.toerist (talk) 14:31, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

@Smiley.toerist: At least you should categorize the file itself to the category of a specific sea. Coordinates are also welcomed if possible.
I found just Category:Atlantic Ocean by year, but the parent category Category:Oceans and seas by year doesn't exist yet. i found no other sea with categorization by year. I doubt it is appropriate and useful – seas are a bit timeless. What is changing is a technology. Maybe we should prefer categories like Category:Water transport by year, Category:Ships by year of manufacture etc. --ŠJů (talk) 16:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

July 19Edit

Wang Jun picturesEdit

In Category:Wang Jun the pictures are available twice. but what is the correct filename? --RobertLechner (talk) 09:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Roy17 (talk) 12:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Category:Israel by year (2)Edit

As an outcome from Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2019/03#"Category:Israel_by_year" user Huldra removing the template {{Israelyear}} her. It is very common in Commons to use category of a country by year. Even if the country does not exist then. For example see Category:1375 in Russia, Category:1375 in Azerbaijan, Category:1750 in Croatia etc. Israel is not differ from others. These countries by year is might be a long side with other entities like kingdoms, principalities, HaYisuv, British mandate etc. Huldra, you may add categories of the region by year like Category:Palestine (region) and Category:Palestine (state) by year etc. Non of them is instaed of categorisation of Israel by year. Similar issue was raised in Commons:Village pump/Archive/2019/06#Israel in 1375, or 1590?. -- Geagea (talk) 23:57, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I think there was a general majority preferring leaving such categories be in that previous discussion. Again, it quite irks me that for something being done for supposed consistency reasons, stuff like Category:14th-century maps of Saudi Arabia (Saudi Arabia being named after the 20th century family that founded it, and thus being especially anachronistic) gets left alone and instead it starts with the hot-button topic of Israel.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Israel was a country that came into existence in 1948. Note that on en.wp, you have "Israeli by year" that starts in 1948 (link). To add "Israel in 1931" is like adding "Category:Rhodesia in the 11th century" to [[Category:Great Zimbabwe]]: this is "fake history", an attempt to give a state a history it doesn't have.
Having said that, I am sure there are a lot of other places that needs updating, too, (eg Saudi Arabia). I have started with Israel/Palestine because that is the region I know best.
And saying that you can just add "Category:Palestine (region)" doesn't really answer it. "Palestine" has through the millennia also named a geographical area, while "Israel" has always been named after a state. The closest would be to call it en:Eretz Israel, or Category:Eretz Israel, which denotes a (undefined) geographical area,
In short: I could agree that the place in 1385 or 1931 should both have "Category:Palestine (region)" and "Category:Eretz Israel" (in addition to, say "British Mandate of Palestine" for 1931, etc). But having "1931 in Israel" is simply fake history. Huldra (talk) 22:01, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
It's not "fake history"; it's an anachronism that may or may not be acceptable. Effectively, "1931 in Israel" is a shorthand for "1931 in the territory that is Israel now." In this particular case, that is especially controversial, but it is the same thing we are doing with a category like Category:Built in Washington (state) in 1859. There was no Washington State in 1859, but it's a lot simpler to shorthand it this way. - Jmabel ! talk 19:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Or else Category:1964 in Saint Petersburg. Back then it was called Leningrad. I think it would be a lot of work to change it all, and I do not see that much added value to it. I agree with Prosfilaes here.Jeff5102 (talk) 19:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

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  • The point is that "Israel" denotes a specific political entity, while "Palestine" is a name which has been used for centuries (if not millennia) for a geographical area (It is has also, lately become associated with a political entity.) We can therefor compare using "Palestine" for one area with using St. Petersburg/Leningrad for another area. But we can not compare using "Israel" with using St. Petersburg/Leningrad: that would be like classifying "Great Zimbabwe" under Rhodesia.
  • Also, we have Category:British Mandate of Palestine by year where everything between 1917 and 1948 should go. Huldra (talk) 23:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
  • PS: and the argument that "it is also wrong other places" isn't really very convincing, to say the least, Huldra (talk) 23:08, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Commons does not make history. Commons is a media file repository. We are sorting media files and making them available. We are sorting everything by country and year and it is very useful for finding media. Israel is no differ from other countries: Category:1475 in Spain, Category:1476 in Russia, Category:1476 in India, Category:1476 in Italy, Category:1576 in Slovenia, Category:1576 in China, Category:1576 in Peru or Category:1576 in Japan. And there is no community consensus to break this category structure. -- Geagea (talk) 10:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

July 20Edit

cat-a-lotEdit

My cat-a-lot plugin suddenly disappeared during an edit session. Is something changed recently? Rudolphous (talk) 06:53, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rudolphous: It still shows for me.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 01:12, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, works now for me too. Rudolphous (talk) 07:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

New user auto message - special upload - licenseEdit

the welcome message, that new users get automagically, contains a link to special upload. the form at special:upload can be sent without choosing a license from the drop chooser. I deem that an unlucky combination. either the welcome message should link to the upload wizard, or special:upload should require the selection of a license. both might reduce the number of uploads by new users without a license. --C.Suthorn (talk) 16:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Note that the messages differs by language, and some older notes on user talk pages are not updated (because the template was substituted by its source code). Whether this is good or not might be up for another discussion. View all the translations from Template:Welcome/i18n. -- Rillke(q?) 22:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
We should not be recommending Special:Upload to new users.   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 01:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

July 21Edit

Batch videos/photos from wikimedia chapters to be reviewedEdit

When yall as sizeable organisations batch upload, could you please find a reviewer or admin among your members to add the reviews instead of queuing them? Since these stuff come from you, reliable wikipedians, they shouldnt queue up. Reviewers could focus on other third parties' media if you could do this little favour. A recent example: all the videos in Category:Celtic Knot Conference 2019. Thank you!--Roy17 (talk) 12:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Often this would mean allowing self-reviews, or reviews which some people would describe as akin to self-reviews. Is that what you're suggesting? Nemo 14:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
@Nemo bis: not exactly. These files are more similar to {{Self}} files. Some people just publish them on youtube or flickr first, then take advantage of v2c or f2c for the conversion, but leave them to us reviewers when review may not be necessary. I dont know about other reviewers, but I often skip these when I see a big pile, and work on more urgent files.--Roy17 (talk) 15:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Kazakhstan begins intercepting HTTPS Internet traffic of all Citizens forcefullyEdit

Hi, I just saw this from a post on Wikimedia-l. This is even worse than blocking Internet. I am not sure what we can do, but we should do something. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Nothing can be done. It would be technically easy to circumvent the interception, but wiki users would need to know about that. In that case kazakh authorities would know too and counter the measures. WMF or wikipedians could lobby the kazakh government to exempt wikipedia from the interception, but kazakh authorities will not undermine their actions. Wikipedia could sent in the foreign legion by helicopter for a coup d' etat but that seems a bit extreme. --C.Suthorn (talk) 16:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
That's shocking. Browser vendors can have a joint strike against this privacy invasion - and hopefully will. It can't be in Google's interest nor in Microsoft's or Mozilla's. -- Rillke(q?) 16:29, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
For mozilla part this bug is relevant. — regards, Revi 16:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

PD-UKEdit

{{PD-UK}} has been deprecated for long, but some files still use the tag. The tag says files using it will be automatically nominated for deletion, but not really? E.g. special:permalink/353163145.--Roy17 (talk) 15:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Purpose of User:J budissin/Uploads/ categorizationEdit

What is the purpose of categorizing all uploads to one user's own subpage? Also, why does it detect country from which file was uploaded, why is that important? Is it only for archival purpose or also for checking licensing and other matters? --Obsuser (talk) 15:17, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

@Obsuser: feel free to remove your photos from those pages. To know more: User:OgreBot/gallery/notice.
Some use this for easy patrol of new photos of a certain topic. I use a few for auto-collection of a city's beauty. :) --Roy17 (talk) 16:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Uncategorized mediaEdit

Every day, a few hundred media-files are uploaded without a category. As of today, the Category:Media needing categories requiring human attention shows us that from 24 January 2015, there are 1,637 "uncategorized files per day X"-categories with each a few hundred files. Is there a community or portal within the Commons-environment, that tries to categorize those files in a (semi-)professional manner? Almost every day, I categorize a few manually, but I cannot do that on my own. Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

I was just looking through that list and I'm seeing many pictures like this where I can't categorize them properly (don't know where they are, who built them, their purpose), is there any way way to figure out this info? I'd like to help categorize. DonSpencer1 (talk) 19:48, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
The uploader is the one who in most cases knows best what the image shows. Uploaders should receive a bot notification for every uncategorized file. Rather than pointing them towards Commons:Categories which is far too long and complicated, the notification should contain an easily understandable explanation of how categories work at Commons, similar to Commons:FAQ#How do I best categorize my own pictures? --Sitacuisses (talk) 20:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
That's a good idea, however, I suspect that most uncategorised media files come from new users and may not know all the intricacies of the category tree, so maybe the standard message should also direct them to the help desk, or maybe Wikimedia Commons should have an "adopt a user" programme like many Wikipedia's have, this way more experienced users can also teach novice users about other (and more important) things such as how copyright and freedom of panorama works. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:20, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

July 22Edit

REST URL to get captionsEdit

Using a REST URL, I am trying to get the English caption for this file.

This is my attempt:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&props=labels&format=json&languagefallback=1&sites=commons&language=en&titles=File%3ATantanmen.jpeg

As you can see by clicking on it, it says:

Either provide the Item "ids" or pairs of "sites" and "titles" for corresponding page

Any idea what is the syntax for these pairs?

Thanks a lot! Syced (talk) 10:56, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Cross-wiki uploadsEdit

Seems that all uploads from Commons:Cross-wiki media upload tool missing the two last lines of Information template: |Permission= and |other_versions=. See examples: File:Noah Wolf Himself.jpg (from en.wiki) and File:Dania1.jpg (from he.wiki). I think it should be fixed. -- Geagea (talk) 13:08, 22 July 2019 (UTC)