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  •   Info Interior of the Sacred Heart of Jesus Cathedral, seat of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Colatina, Espiríto Santo, Brazil. Created, uploaded and nominated by ★ -- ★ 10:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Taken using Apple ProRAW mode. -- ★ 10:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Yes, I know the pixel level detail is not very good. And Arion you should still invest in a proper camera if you want to do well at FPC, the results with an iPhone will be very hit and miss. But, this file is huge (42 megapixels) and this 11 megapixel downsample is pin-sharp except for a tiny bit of corner unsharpness. Add to that a careful composition, an interesting modernistic church in an underrepresented region at FPC, and the fact that this one unlike the last one is perfectly centered, and you've got yourself an FP in my view. Cmao20 (talk) 17:35, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Support In the country where Arion lives it is not safe to carry a camera, it draws a lot of attention from assailants, a phone is more discreet especially if you plan to walk on the street with it. Wilfredor (talk) 19:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the bandits might think: "Da dude has a camera, he's crazy? Let'steal it from him!" ★ 20:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose This is a very good and useful photo, but I don't think that on a site that has great, sharp photos by Diliff, Poco and others, this is one of the best on the site. Even at 50%, the upper stained glass windows are not sharp. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have seen the works of Diliff and Poco a Poco, but I find it unlikely they would consider the possibility of traveling to countries like Brazil to undertake photographic projects, recalling the incident where Poco a Poco was assaulted. It's important to acknowledge that for those from developed countries, fully understanding the personal and security risks in these environments can be challenging. When evaluating photographs, as it highlights the dedication and bravery needed to capture these images, even within a church. My personal experience with photography in Venezuela exposed me to similar risks, underscoring the significant problems faced by photographers in these regions. The accessibility to high-end equipment, such as a D850 camera, is limited in many countries, which can be a barrier to high-quality photography. I believe it's important to encourage and support more FPs from photographers in developing countries. Currently, there's a notable imbalance, with a majority of FPs originating from Europe. Diversifying the geographical representation in photography not only enriches our understanding of different cultures but also provides a platform for talented photographers from various backgrounds to showcase their work. Wilfredor (talk) 12:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are some situations in which shooting an FP may be impossible, and in this case, that's unfortunately due to high crime. But it's not about countries being more or less developed. We've featured quite a lot of photos of developing countries, including Brazil. I don't think features are necessary to encourage good photography; they exist to put a stamp on the very best pictures on the site. We have QI and VI, and if someone wanted to develop a program for acknowledging the best photography in high-crime areas that are given some kind of understandable definition or of developing countries, as defined by some recognized measure - or, I think more relevantly, of places in the Americas other than the U.S. and Canada, because we could predict that a slew of Basile Moran's photos of Laos would clean up in any contest for the best pictures of developing countries, and they are already FPs - that would be great! -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:55, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand and partially agree with you; however, you mention Basile Morin of Laos by way of comparison… it's funny to read because no other developing country is more dangerous, homicidal, robbing than Brazil. It's another level of reality. ★ 22:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, we have selected other photos from Brazil, most of which are mine, which is why I say it's risky. In Venezuela and Brazil, I used to dress very casually to avoid attracting thieves. I remember carrying a bag of bread or sweet potatoes, with the camera hidden at the bottom of the bag. If someone tried to rob me, I could show them it was just bread or sweet potatoes and nothing more. So, when I arrived at the place where I wanted to take a photo, I quickly planned my exit (usually by motorcycle taxi), quickly took out my camera, snapped the photo in 10 seconds, and then swiftly left the area. This technique worked for a long time, but the camera was a donation, not something I bought myself (it was donated by Dcoetzee about 15 years ago). This image might not be on the same level as those by Diliff and Poco, and I know that might seem unfair, but my vote is more about the circumstantial evidence of the dangerous country. Sorry if my comment seems excessive. Wilfredor (talk) 22:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • As someone who grew up in the bad old days of high crime in New York City, I'm certainly sympathetic. Loads and loads of cameras were stolen here in those days, though it sounds like today's Brazil is much worse than that. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I want to share with you a recent incident that happened during my trip to Brazil and why I've decided to avoid traveling there for some time. Upon arriving at the airport, my suitcase was immediately stolen. Then, 30 minutes later, I went to pick up a car I had rented online, only to find out from the rental company that they had no record of my booking, even though I had paid almost a thousand dollars. I then took an Uber to the house where I was supposed to stay. The next day, I managed to find a very cheap car, but it had trouble starting. Still, I set off on my journey, only to be stuck in a traffic jam for four hours, during which I was robbed by a motorcyclist. Afterward, I needed to refuel, so I stopped at a gas station where an attendant filled up my tank (as is customary in Brazil). However, when he came to charge me, I noticed the fuel gauge hadn't moved; my tank was still empty. It seemed that even the Shell gas station had scammed me. I called the police, who told me that the problem might be with my car and if I left without paying, I could be arrested. Reluctantly, I paid. Later, when I headed to my Airbnb, the address in the listing was different from the one the owner gave me, which turned out to be in a favela – yet another deception. This experience was a typical day in Brazil. Wilfredor (talk) 01:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    P.S.: By the way, much of what is the Category:Featured pictures of Brazil (mainly São Paulo) is due to the Wilfredo[r]'s effort and work; just compare Category:Featured pictures of Iceland, Ireland or Slovenia (developed countries), for example. ★ 02:13, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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