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Take World Health Organization data, put into a map?

Hi. I'm coming to see if someone can take the World Health Organization's data from the Global status report on alcohol and health 2014 and plug it into a map of the world? Something similar used to exist and was used in w:2016 Irkutsk mass methanol poisoning, but it was deleted, and I'd really like to re-add the information. Thank you! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 03:32, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Historical image: quality noise reducion request

Is there someone who has the software to apply high quality noise reduction on this photograph? (and is willing to do so)

The photograph Royalist ralley in The Hague after the failed revolution attempt in 1918.jpg was made at a historical royalist ralley (or demonstration) in The Hague, after the failed attempt for a revolution in the Netherlands in 1918. The same year when the German kaiser and Russian tsar where overthrown by succesfull revolutions. On the photograph: Members of the royal family had arrived by horse-drawn carriage at a large field. The nine years old Crown Princess Juliana of the Netherlands, supported by her mother Queen Wilhelmina and a chamberlain, waves to the gathered crowd. Regards, --oSeveno (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

OSeveno you may get a better response at the Photography workshop. - Offnfopt(talk) 01:33, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, I will try that. --oSeveno (talk) 10:15, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Delete pseudohistoric maps?

Dear colleagues,
The principle that anyone can create and upload their own maps on Commons has been rather successful for years. An unfortunate side-effect is that literally anyone can create a 'historic' map of anything, without having to abide by any scientific or historical-critical standards. The result is lots of amateur historians/carthographers creating vastly inaccurate or just pseudohistoric maps, that they or perhaps other amateurs then go on to use on Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects to illustrate entries. Even if these are removed from one Wikipedia by a Wikipedian with more historical expertise, it may still be used or show up again elsewhere (in other languages or articles within the same language edition), because the source file is not deleted.

Granted, maps will always contain mistakes. A certain error rate should be allowed, especially if more accurate maps showing the same geographic area around the same period are still unavailable. But there are lots of clearly pseudoscientific maps on Commons that serve no educational purpose, and may spread misinformation, even if they're not used anywhere in an article. Their mere existence here makes them searchable by Google and other search engines. If it was text, we would simply delete the information. But on Commons, the only rule for deletion appears to be if it's a copyright violation or at the uploader's request.

Do we want Commons to be/remain a hub for the spread of pseudohistoric maps? I don't think this is compatible with the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation, which is to 'to collect and develop educational content'. These maps don't educate: they mislead and misinform more than that they educate. So if not, what can we do about them? The only thing I have tried so far is simply removing them from all legitimate categories to make them harder to find, and adding a {{disputed map}} template, but that's not a real solution to the problem.

I am in favour of deleting any historical map that is clearly pseudohistoric and/or misleading on multiple issues, (especially) when there is already at least 1 other map of the same region and period which is clearly more accurate. Examples:

I hope to hear your views and suggestions. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 02:35, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Nederlandse Leeuw -- Wikimedia Commons doesn't take sides in legitimate disputes; images reflecting both sides can be uploaded, and the various language Wikipedias are free to use which versions they want. Deliberately hoaxing images are another matter, and certainly can be deleted... AnonMoos (talk) 06:18, 30 October 2017 (UTC)