Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives October 27 2020

Consensual review edit

File:Orthodox_Cathedral_Riga_07.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination Towers of Nativity of Christ Cathedral – Russian Orthodox Church in Riga, Latvia --Scotch Mist 06:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Oppose Underexposed. --Kallerna 07:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment @Kallerna: Would appreciate the views of others, especially on whether apparent 'underexposure' automatically rules out QI irrespective of whether any significant detail is lost or not (this is not my reading of QI Guidelines) and if necessary whether any 'remedial action' can be taken? --Scotch Mist 08:09, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose The photographer tried to compensate for the overexposed gold on the dome. Unfortunately this did not work. Gold is always problematic.--Ermell 10:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Declined   --Augustgeyler 10:49, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Orthodox_Cathedral_Riga_06.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination Dome Perspective of Nativity of Christ Cathedral in Riga --Scotch Mist 06:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Oppose Too mush sky, it looks underexposed --Podzemnik 19:52, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Oppose underexposed, perspective. --Kallerna 07:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Done @Podzemnik: Thanks for your review - have cropped and adjusted WB --Scotch Mist 07:43, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment @Kallerna: Would appreciate the views of others, especially on whether apparent 'underexposure' automatically rules out QI irrespective of whether any significant detail is lost or not (this is not my reading of QI Guidelines) and if necessary whether any 'remedial action' can be taken? --Scotch Mist 08:09, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Declined   --Peulle 08:03, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

File:The_Haunting_Tree.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination The Haunting Tree --Jim Evans 19:55, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Comment Can we get more specific categories? GEO tag would be extremely useful --Podzemnik 06:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment I find Categories difficult. I did what I could. If a GEO tag is the coordinates of the location where the picture was taken I would have to guess. Jim Evans 13:10, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Question Is a GEO tag required for QI images? Jim Evans 11:07, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment No but it is very helpful, especially if there is no other way (within Wikimedia) to pinpoint the location of your shot, like a specific category or linked article. (A tree in Houston has less educational value than a specific tree that can be tracked over time.) I think the descriptive location is OK if that's all you have, though if the tree is your subject then you should identify its species. --Trougnouf 10:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment I'm sorry, I don't know the species of the tree.
  •   Oppose too much noise in criss crossing branches --Virtual-Pano 14:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment I'm moving this to discussion mostly to try to understand how far afield reasons for disapproval of images can go. Apparently whether an image has enough categories has been accepted as a criteria for some time. It seems to me it has little to do with whether an image is of good quality. But, coordinates? I don't understand what location has to do with whether an image is of good quality?. I haven't checked but I suspect there are many images approved for QI that have no coordinates. Again, I don't understand how the species of the tree relates to the quality of the image. --- As for the complaint about digital noise. I see no unusual digital noise. When there's noise it's usually apparent first in the sky, but I see none it the tree either. Finally, I apologize for missing the request for a general location. As the image description explains, the tree is located beside the Johnson Space Center, off Space Center Blvd., somewhere between Middlebrook Drive & NASA Road 1. -- Jim Evans 13:53, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment imo the subject should be identified and the categories should capture the subject and the location. Proper categorization is one of the criteria listed in Commons:Image_guidelines#Image_page_requirements; it adds greatly to the educational value which is Commons' main goal (see Commons:Project_scope: "makes available public domain and freely-licensed educational media content to all ... "educational" is to be understood according to its broad meaning of "providing knowledge; instructional or informative""; quality is not necessarily just technical quality but in this scope educational value or the amount of information counts). If the location is vague or wide then geocoordinates are a big help. Geocoordinates are always appreciated but I think the location description you provided is fine. If your subject is a particular tree then it needs to be identified on the same basis as any life form. I think it would be fine to capture a scene where the tree is present and describe the scene, but there is nothing else to go for here. I think the quality is ok, there is not the greatest amount of detail but it's good enough for QI. Your assumption of noise is not entirely correct; noise is easily visible in the sky because the sky should be smooth (low frequency) whereas noise has high frequency, but noise is the sensor's uncertainty and it shows up mainly when increasing the captured values, ie increasing ISO or raising the shadows. In this case you left the shadows looking black but if you raised their value such that details become visible then there would be significant noise. Note that your picture shows some noise visible in the sky here at a reasonable zoom level, but not a disturbing amount. --Trougnouf 17:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment I have placed a note box on the noise I am referring to --Virtual-Pano 00:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support I don't think the note made by Virtual-Pano shows noise, it looks like a real feature in the tree. Greetings --Dirtsc (talk) 17:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Weak oppose It is a well composed image. But its level of detail is quit low. Noise reduction made it worse. --Augustgeyler 22:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment For the record, no noise reduction was applied. -Jim Evans 12:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment @Jim Evans: That makes me wonder even more. Did the level of detail get lost while processing? Or is that a sensor issue? There is not meta data about your camera. So I can not verify that. Why didn't you upload that information? --Augustgeyler 15:56, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment If this comes from the out-of-camera JPEG instead of RAW then the camera does denoising, sharpening, etc as part of its built-in processing pipeline. Metadata would be nice indeed. --Trougnouf 19:44, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment As it turns out you're correct. I keep turning NR off but somewhere along the way it will switch back on. So, my statement was incorrect, in-camera noise reduction was applied. Sorry.
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Declined   --Peulle 08:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Iglesia_del_colegio_de_los_Jesuitas,_Ponta_Delgada,_isla_de_San_Miguel,_Azores,_Portugal,_2020-07-30,_DD_21-23_HDR.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination Church of the Jesuit College, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel Island, Azores, Portugal --Poco a poco 07:11, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Oppose lens flare upper left --MB-one 16:21, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Info The reviewer deleted his vote. --Augustgeyler 12:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment I cannot see any flares, can you please add a note? Poco a poco 17:56, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Done. Also the left spotlight is considerably brighter and thus appears much bigger, which throws off the balance IMO. --MB-one 11:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
  • MB-one it would be great to get at least some feedback from you Poco a poco 17:02, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   New version I've removed the flare but I don't believe that I should reduce the brightness of that spotlight on the left, it isn't my fault and this isn't FP Poco a poco 08:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment Please, let's discuss it before the bot wipes the nom away --Poco a poco 17:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Comment No problem with the spot, but the image should be rotated a little CCW and then cropped exactly symmetrically. --Smial 10:52, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
  •   Support Ok, that's fine. --Smial 22:58, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose →   Promoted   --Peulle 08:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)