Question I am not that familiar with vivisection on selected animals. Could you briefly explain what makes vivisection of a cockroach interesting for Wikimedia projects? Is vivisection of cockroaches used in education to learn about some specifics about the anatomy and fysiology of insects? What is it you learn about cockroaches by doing a vivisection as compared to dissection on a dead animal? And finally. Is the cockroach "dead" at this stage in the vivisection? Sorry for all the questions. -- Slaunger (talk) 19:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In my part of the world, vivisection of different types of animals is carried out. It can be of frogs, mice, cockroaches. Since cockroaches are one of the most stable animals in terms of evolution, and since they have survived different stressful conditions and survived, their anatomy is studied; what makes them successful. Also their body processes are studied, how they excrete, reproduce, defend themselves, blood flow, etc. Killing the cockroach would destroy the structure and thus make it difficult to observe all of this, hence vivisection is carried out instead of the dissection on the dead animal. At this stage, if the tubular heart is not damaged, then the cockroach is alive but due to the chloroform it is not conscious and has not suffered. The subject is then properly disposed. I don't mind the questions at all. Muhammad20:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I have given this some thought. I suppose this particular cockroach species is chosen due to easy access and the fact that it is a very large insect (the largest Commons cockroach species) and thus easy to vivisect and study in an educational context. As I understand the purpose of this type of vivisection it is to study body processes in, for instance, insects. I do think a vivisection VI can be relevant in this topic area, but I am concerned that the current scope is too narrow. Like, I do not think it would be relevant to also have a vivisection VI of a grasshopper, a wasp or a bee, perhaps not even a spider. So one vivisection VI dealing with either the class of insects or the wider phylum of Arthropods seems more appropriate. I therefore suggest you widen the scope to Insect vivisection or Arthropod vivisection. With such a widened scope, I'd be willing to support. -- Slaunger (talk) 21:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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