File talk:Queen Elizabeth II visit to Sudan in February 1965.jpg

 

Reason for deletion nomination

The source website has marked the image as "Copyright © Sudanese Association of Pediatricians."— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

the existence of Sudanese Association of Pediatricians (assumed 1977) succeeded this picture/state visit in 1965, and I am sure Sudanese Association of Pediatricians (SAP) is just slapping unsubstantiated claims of copy right.

Anyway, as there is little online about when SAP was founded, here is my set of evidences:

1. Sudanese Journal of Paediatrics is the journal of the Sudanese Association of Pediatricians which started publishing in 1977, see [1]

2. The 1st president of the Sudanese Association of Pediatricians is Professor Mahmoud Mohamed Hassan (unknown when). Still, he was the first Sudanese doctor to obtain a post graduate MD from University of Khartoum in 1965. I am sure you need more than 1 post graduate MD to start a journal. see [2]

3. Going back to the publication where the image was published, figure no. 1 is from 1934 and SAP also slapped their claim of copyright, see [3]. Again in 1934, Pedicatrity as a discipline did not even exist in Sudan. See [4]

4. free version of similar images of the event exist and it attributed to John Loengard and not SAP, see [5]

5. see

This image is in the public domain because the copyright of this photograph, registered in Sudan, has expired. (At least 25 years have passed after the photograph was created, Sudanese Law). Use this template exclusively for photos and NOT for drawings or other pieces of art. Warning: clear proof that the image was taken more than 25 years ago must be given.

I hope this clarify that SAP copyright claim is unlawful and should be dismissed FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2022 (UTC)