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Scranton Official Year book
editI wondered why you uploaded 150 or so images from this book as most seem unnecessary and not really within scope unless you are going to use several of them. Even then syntax can display individual pages of a pdf that I see you have uploaded from here https://archive.org/download/officialyearbook00vand/officialyearbook00vand.pdf and editors can use any individual page by using the syntax as shown here w:Wikipedia:Extended image syntax#Page when they want to use a page. It seems like a lot of effort for little return. Do you not know about page syntax from a pdf? Ww2censor (talk) 13:48, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: If you have noticed, I did not just dump the files here (I rarely do so), I went through and categorised each page in the appropriate categories depending upon what is depicted there. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 14:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed I saw that but it still seems like a lot of work that few editors will use or appreciate the effort. Personally I would have only uploaded the pdf and added it to several appropriate categories. Ww2censor (talk) 14:38, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- I do understand what you are trying to say, but I disagree with it. Let's look at File:Official Year Book Scranton Postoffice 1895-1895 - 051.png for example. I have placed this image in Category:Hotels in the United States, I believe that if a person were to be looking for history of hotels in the US they will find this page useful. However, this is the only advertisement of the hotel in this book, and adding the whole book into that category actually would serve no purpose, because there would be no way to tell a person who is following a link from that category why it is there. Most likely adding the whole book would simply be reverted eventually, when a person come in, looks at the first 20-30 pages and realises that there are no hotels there. The negative response I can anticipate would be that I could have only uploaded the PDF, and then extracted advertisements out of it... but that would simply do exactly the same thing that we have right now, with the only exception being that we would have more reencodings in the path from original to the image that we have and would also require me to do significantly more work. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 14:50, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: But anyhow, at this moment I am not planning to import any more books. I do have plans to add many stamp images in a relatively near future (maybe a month or so). ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 14:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed I saw that but it still seems like a lot of work that few editors will use or appreciate the effort. Personally I would have only uploaded the pdf and added it to several appropriate categories. Ww2censor (talk) 14:38, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. Where did you find a term of 80 years to use in this edit? — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 00:28, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
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- @Jeff G.: Is the author not from Colombia? If I am incorrect, please either fix or let me know how to fix. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 03:35, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, he was from Colombia, but the book was published in Brazil, so I think the copyright rules would be those of Brazil. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, that is actually an interesting question. I think in most countries copyright law is written is written in a very strange way, it applies to works published in the country, and also by the citizens of the country who published abroad. So in 70 years Brazil will say that the work is in public domain, but Colombia will most likely argue that it is still 10 years under copyright. USA will probably just go with Brazil, since that's where the work was first published. But what about Commons policy? Do we respect Colombian copyright? I am unsure about these intricacies. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 04:29, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- You are welcome to ask at COM:VPC. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, that is actually an interesting question. I think in most countries copyright law is written is written in a very strange way, it applies to works published in the country, and also by the citizens of the country who published abroad. So in 70 years Brazil will say that the work is in public domain, but Colombia will most likely argue that it is still 10 years under copyright. USA will probably just go with Brazil, since that's where the work was first published. But what about Commons policy? Do we respect Colombian copyright? I am unsure about these intricacies. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 04:29, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, he was from Colombia, but the book was published in Brazil, so I think the copyright rules would be those of Brazil. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Wing margins
editI see that you reverted my edits on the following four files in which I had removed the Category:Wing marginal stamps:
- File:Stamp-russia2006-television.png
- File:Stamp-russia2008-letters.png
- File:Stamp-russia2016-russian-pravda.png
- File:Stamp-russia2017-lapti.png
These are not wing marginal stamps: a wing margin is a margin which forms part of the stamp (such as this) rather than a margin which is separated from the stamp design by the perforations. --Xwejnusgozo (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have undone my edits. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 16:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)