Kontributor 2K

Bonjour !
Kontributor 2K (d) 08:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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-sche (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

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-sche (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Catégories

Bonjour,

Au lieu de reverter sans justification valable l'agencement des catégories [1], [2], il serait temps d'indiquer la règle/recommandation Commons correspondante.

Si celle-ci n'existe pas, merci d'éviter ces suppressions à l'avenir.

Par ailleurs, vous avez supprimé les informations relatives à l'individu en évoquant un curieux motif : "info from the wp article is not relevant on the image description ("blazon of"…)". Ah bon, où cela est-il recommandé dans Commons ? Un brin contradictoire si c'est pour ajouter les graphies "Retz" et "Rays", informations provenant également de l'article WP, si je ne m'abuse ?

Cordialement. Guise (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Guise

Je vous l'ai remis en l'état du 30 décembre 2023 à 14:47, c'est mieux non ?

Bonne continuation, --Kontributor 2K

In chevron

I've no idea why you have done this, but "in chevron" doesn't refer to any actual chevron in the shield, it means the charges are disposed in chevron, which is a common way of disposing them see here, for instance. Can you explain your actions there, removing the category from the coats of arms and then redirecting to some unrelated thing? Darwin ^Ahoy! 14:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Darwin,

Actually "in chevron" refers to "disposed 1 & 2" (one in top, two at bottom, as "triangle"), that's why I eventually redirected to the corresponding category "one and two". Also the category "Chevrons in heraldry" refers to the chevron element, not to elements disposed in chevron.

"2 & 1" is actually like "reversed chevron", not "chevron", and is the default position for 3 elements : no specific category is needed for these at all.

Notifying @Jpgibert: for further support if needed.

Regards, --Kontributor 2K 14:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello. That's not how it appears in Portuguese heraldry, here it it's said the charges are disposed "em aspa", which is literally "in chevron". And even if "in chevron" is the most common arrangement for 3 charges, a category with that name (or an equivalent version) would be in place to distinguish those from the ones whit non standard charge arrangements. Darwin ^Ahoy! 17:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Well,

We should wait for advices from @Jpgibert: , @Ssire: and also @Chatsam: , who are referents of the french Blazon project and know about european heraldry too.

In any case, i'm not sure that creating a category "in-chevron" to designate elements in a "reversed-chevron position" (2 in chief, 1 in bottom) to comply with portuguese heraldry is truly relevant in here, where categories are in english. Obviously, this file, for an example, is truly not "3 fleurs-de-lis in chevron".

Moreover, making a specific category for elements "2 & 1", would imply doing so for all heraldic elements by 3, not only fleurs-de-lis, which means it should be strongly discussed before action

You're welcome there on the project tp, unless you know a better place to discuss this point,

--Kontributor 2K 17:33, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Crusade maps

Hi, your revert mentions ""Surrounding folder already categorized in Category:Maps showing 11th-century history" --> but I categorized the maps as "Maps of 11th-century Europe". That is a difference, both categories are child-nodes of the 11th-century parent category. --Enyavar (talk) 22:41, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Enyavar

You're welcome

Actually it's already a mess, maybe the folder "Maps of the First Crusade" should be moved to "Maps of 11th-century Europe" directly instead of its content

Regards, --Kontributor 2K 22:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Better not: most maps of the Crusades don't show a lot of Europe, as the fighting happened mostly in Asia. Best, --Enyavar (talk) 22:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

As you can see, "Maps of the First Crusade" is already categorized in simlar categories (Maps of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, Maps of the Byzantine empire in the 11th century, Maps of the history of the Middle East)

I mean it's already a mess… --Kontributor 2K 23:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

True, most of these categories don't apply to each and every map in the category.

But again: There are maps of the First Crusade, there are maps of Europe in the same time, and a map that shows both elements at once, may get both categories.

By the way, I can't understand why you removed "French-language maps" from this one. I would rather move it to "French-language maps showing history of Europe"! Any map deserves to be categorized by its language (...although sadly, most aren't). Best, --Enyavar (talk) 23:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, not every crusade map shows Europe, I have reverted my reverts.

About the language category I removed, I found it was too vague, and I didn't know about the one you mention, to which I eventually added the series' other maps.

Regards, --Kontributor 2K 10:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)