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Tip: Categorizing imagesEdit

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Hello, Croberto68!

Tip: Add categories to your images

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sугсго 09:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

CathedralsEdit

Hi. Please have a look at this, in order to improve your work with categories. This is important. Also (this second point is about details) I understand from what I read that a cathedral does not cease to be a cathedral when the bishop is gone. Therefore there shouldn't be "former cathedrals", merely "cathedrals of former dioceses". --Eusebius (talk) 11:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Please stop over-categorizing. I've said it nicely. --Eusebius (talk) 13:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


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File:Labaro (Rome) - S. Alfonso M. de Liguori 08.JPGEdit

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File tagging File:Labaro (Rome) - S. Alfonso M. de Liguori 13.JPGEdit

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You need a written permission from the original artist. Túrelio (talk) 08:02, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


File tagging File:Labaro (Rome) - S. Alfonso M. de Liguori 12.JPGEdit

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Same problem. Túrelio (talk) 08:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

In case you hadn't read my answer, I'm copying it to here, as I have it archived from my talkpage. --Túrelio (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Labaro (Rome) - S. Alfonso M. de Liguori 12.JPGEdit

Purtroppo non parlo inglese (je ne parle pas l'anglais). Je ne comprend pas (Non capisco perché) cette photo et l'autre aussi (File:Labaro (Rome) - S. Alfonso M. de Liguori 13.JPG) sont menacées d'être effacées. Non capisco perché si vuole cancellare queste due foto. Qui a décidé que ces photos son des oeuvres d'arts? Con quali criteri si è deciso che sono opere d'arte coperte da copyright? Solo perché sono belle e moderne? Une photo peut violer le copyright? Una fotografia può violare il copyright? Les permissions (licenza) données sont liées aux photos, non à l'oeuvre-d'art en soi. In ogni caso è una battaglia persa, tanto le foto le cancellate comunque.--Croberto68 (talk) 11:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Hallo Croberto68,
though I don't fully understand what you are saying, I think, you are asking why File:Labaro (Rome) - S. Alfonso M. de Liguori 12.JPG has been tagged with "no permission". This photo reproduces a station of a Via Crucis, which seems to consists in a 3-dimensional colored sculpture. This sculpture is a work of art and was likely made by another artist. If this artist is dead since >70 years, everything is fine and you can take as many photos of it as you want. But, if the artist is not dead since >70 years, he (or his heirs) still hold the copyright over this sculpture and any reproduction, including photographies. So, you should find out the artist who created this sculpture and whether he/she is still living or already dead and since when.
Per capire questo, utilizzare il traduttore di Google o chiedere di User:Trixt, che parla italiano. (Google translation) --Túrelio 14:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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Violates the copyright of the painter. Flickr license is bogus. --Túrelio (talk) 09:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

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User:G.dallorto (talk) 10:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Ciao CRoberto, grazie per i contributi. Ricordati però che purtroppo non è consentito caricare su WikiCommons immagini di edifici progettati da architetti (e da artisti in genere) che siano morti da meno 70 anni, a meno che il paese in cui sono preveda la clausola della "Freedom of Panorama" (FOP in gergo wikipediano). Purtroppo l'Italia NON ha la clausola del FOP. Mi spiace. --User:G.dallorto (talk) 10:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Esatto, i suoi amici architetti non conoscono la legislazione. Del resto sono architetti, non avvocati. Non solo l'immagine di un'opera architettonica è proprietà intellettuale del suo autore per tutta la vita e per 70 anni dopo la sua morte, ma addirittura i concepts dell'edificio, a parte quelli strettamente tecnici, lo sono. La stupirà sapere che anche su un quadro esiste la proprietà intellettuale del pittore, non del possessore, che non può opporsi a che l'autore utilizzi l'immagine a sua volontà (e che non può usarla a meno che ne abbia acquisito il diritto). Il possessore possiede (o abita) l'oggetto; l'autore ne possiede l'idea. Siamo arrivati all'assurdo di architetti che si sono opposti in tribunale, e con successo, a lavori di ristrutturazione iniziati dal proprietario e che alteravano il disegno dell'edificio stesso.
Tutto è questo è effetto di una legislazione sulla cosiddetta, e inesistente, "proprietà intellettuale", che è stata estesa negli ultimi decenni allo spasimo per effetti delle lobbies interessate. Gli edifici, e tutte le opere dell'ingegno permanentemente esposte al pubblico, in base alla convenzione internazionale sul diritto d'autore, possono godere di una eccezione, che qui su WikiCommons chiamiamo "freedom of panorama" (FOP), che può essere introdotta da ogni singolo paese a sua discrezione. L'Italia, sotto la guida dell'on Berlusconi, cioè colui che ha fatto causa a Youtube per infrazione di proprietà intellettuale, ha scelto di NON applicare questa clausola, DUNQUE in Italia, a differenza che in Germania, o Usa, o Regno Unito, NON esiste la libertà di riprodurre immagini di opere dell'ingengo permanentemente esposte al pubblico, come un edificio -- o se è per questo una statua. Benvenuto nella realtà. Se la realtà non fosse questa, noi non staremmo facendo WikiCommons per sottrarre quanto più materiale possibile alla follia della "proprietà intellettuale".
PS proponga ai suoi amici di donare a WikiComnmons il permesso di riprodurre le loro realizzazioni. Farebbe cosa utile a loro, e a noi...
PS 2 Grazie per la segnalazione del Colosseo Quadrato. Vado subito e richiedere la cancellazione. La legge fa SCHIFO, ma fino a che non riusciamo a cambiarla, E' LA LEGGE... --User:G.dallorto (talk) 11:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
PS3 La Grecia ha minacciato di causa WikiCommons perché in base a una legge che si è fata lei, solo il governo greco può riprodurre le immagini del Partenone... QUESTA legge, essendo contraria alle convenzioni internazionali firmate dalla Grecia, non è valida, ma se lei è un cittadino greco ed abita in Grecia, ebbene, lo è.

Freedom of PanoramaEdit

Qualche link per divertirti... In inglese:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Italy
User:G.dallorto/Freedom of Panorama issues (debate on the Village pump, in English)
In italiano:

   http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_progetto:Coordinamento/Immagini#Quesito_su_immagini_di_palazzi
   http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/2007_04_20#Problema_con_architetti_viventi
   http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Alcuni_Wikipediani/Lettera_aperta_sulle_leggi_sul_copyright
   http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Il_mondo_Open_Source_ricevuto_in_Parlamento._E_l%27Open_Content%3F
   http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Segnalazione_articolo_PI

Ciao. --User:G.dallorto (talk) 11:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Tue osservazioniEdit

No, paradossalmente la Ferrari no, perché gli oggetti industriali seguono una legge diversa: una macchina si brevetta, non si mette sotto la protezione del diritto d'autore. I guai nascono in effetti dalla pretesa delle lobbies di applicare il concetto di "proprietà intellettuale" anche ad oggetti industriali, o a un edificio, che ha avuto molto successo negli ultimo 30 anni. Per dirne una, un tempo non era permesso brevettare un farmaco (ma se ne poteva brevettare il nome, come Aspirina), oggi invece è possibile brevettare non solo il farmaco ma anche un gene, o un gruppo di cellule, o un seme, o un essere vivente. Il comune di New York ha brevettato la sua skyline, quello di Parigi l'illuminazione della Tour Eiffel, come ti dicevo, la Grecia il Partenone. E Berlusconi ha messo il copyright dello stato su tutti gli oggetti di proprietà statale, inclusi quelli ormai nel pubblico dominio, il cui sfruttamento lo stato - sotto la sua direzione - ha monopolisticamente ceduto a un editore, che è l'Electa, che è di Mondadori, che è di Silvio Berlusconi. Ops!
Noi tutti siamo su Wikipedia/Wikicommons per porre un argine a questa invadenza che fra un poco ci costringerà a pagare anche per usare il nostro nome e cognome. Il che però ci rende un bersaglio primario delle lobbies della proprietà intellettuale per farci chiudere, ragione per cui le wiki devono essere super-super-caute in questo campo.
Quanto alle foto da cancellare, non hai idea di quante ne ho dovute cancellare io di mie prima di imparare le regole. Ed ogni tanto vado a fare un giro sul "Pirellone" a togliere le immagini che nel frattempo si sono accumulate nonostante l'espresso avviso che non si possono mettere... --User:G.dallorto (talk) 11:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Perché ogni versione linguistica di Wikipedia fa capo a un diverso gruppo di responsabili, che possono decidere di correre o meno il rischio di essere denunciati, se lo vogliono, per una certa immagine (potrebbe essere un'occasione per una battaglia legale che stablisca dei principii), mentre WikiCommons fa capo alla Wikimedia Foundatione e deve rispettare maniacalmente i trattati internazionali sulla proprietà intellettuale per non fare la fine di WikiLeaks. Succede anche l'inverso: ci sono foto che sono su WikiCommons ma non possono essere su Wikipedia.it. Esempio, se il fotografo è italiano, le opere d'arte esposte nei musei statali italiani. La legge va contro i trattati internazionali, ma in Italia è pur sempre legge, e se sei un cittadino italiano non ti conviene infrangerla perché sul territorio italiano per ora è valida. In passato abbiamo fatto cancellazioni di massa di foto scattate da italiani a Firenze e Venezia, data l'aggressività delle Sovraintendenze di quelle città. Ma quelle foto sono state sostituite da immagini scattare da stranieri, dato che l'idea che l'Italia possa fare una rogatoria internazionale contro cittadini stranieri per un reato che nel loro Paese non è tale, è impensabile. Il govero ha taglito i fondi alle Sovraintendenze anche per comprare la carta da fotocopie, figuriamoci per gli avvocati per una rogatoria internazionale per UNA foto...
Incidentalmente: in caso di causa, sei tu che hai caricato la foto a risponderne personalmente, e non la Wikimedia foundation: leggi bene l'accordo che appare quando carichi una foto. Quindi èanche nel tuo interesse che le foto controverse vengano cancellate. Ma, insisto, la soluzione c'è: convinci i tuoi amici architetti a donare il diritto di riproduzione delle loro opere a WikiCommons: quando ce ne sarà un numero sufficiente si accorgeranno tutti che NON esserci è un danno d'immagine.
Con alcuni musei sta già succedendo così: essere su Commons è tutta pubblicità gratuita per i musei piccoli e poco noti, dato che Google adora Commons e lo mette sempre fra i primi risultati. Qualche grosso museo stonzo e stitico se ne sta finalmente accorgendo e inizia a far finta di non accorgersi degli "abusi" commessi da Commons. Una Sovraintendenza ha addirittura chiesto la cancellazione di immagini per compiacere il partito-azienda da cui dipendiamo tutti, però ne ha mandato una serie da pubblicare al loro posto... il che per me è ok.
Insomma, a mio parere Commons non può cambiare il mondo, ma fare la differenza sì. Per questo ci collaboro... :-) --User:G.dallorto (talk) 16:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
P.S. Ti consiglio questo libro. Sorprendentemente non è stato scritto da un adepto del "partito dei pirati" ma da un economista (iper)liberista... http://www.amazon.it/Contro-propriet%C3%A0-intellettuale-Stephen-Kinsella/dp/8849827997/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349800708&sr=8-1


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If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Josve05a (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletionEdit

Commons-emblem-issue.svg Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


Afrikaans | العربية | বাংলা | Беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ | Català | Čeština | Dansk | Deutsch | Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ | Zazaki | Ελληνικά | English | Esperanto | Español | Eesti | فارسی | Suomi | Français | Galego | עברית | Magyar | Bahasa Indonesia | Íslenska | Italiano | 日本語 | 한국어 | Македонски | മലയാളം | Plattdüütsch | Nederlands | Norsk nynorsk | Norsk bokmål | Occitan | Polski | Português | Português do Brasil | Română | Русский | Slovenčina | Slovenščina | Српски / srpski | Svenska | Türkçe | українська | Tiếng Việt | 中文 | 中文(简体)‎ | 中文(繁體)‎ | +/−

Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Josve05a (talk) 01:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletionEdit

Commons-emblem-issue.svg Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


Afrikaans | العربية | বাংলা | Беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ | Català | Čeština | Dansk | Deutsch | Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ | Zazaki | Ελληνικά | English | Esperanto | Español | Eesti | فارسی | Suomi | Français | Galego | עברית | Magyar | Bahasa Indonesia | Íslenska | Italiano | 日本語 | 한국어 | Македонски | മലയാളം | Plattdüütsch | Nederlands | Norsk nynorsk | Norsk bokmål | Occitan | Polski | Português | Português do Brasil | Română | Русский | Slovenčina | Slovenščina | Српски / srpski | Svenska | Türkçe | українська | Tiếng Việt | 中文 | 中文(简体)‎ | 中文(繁體)‎ | +/−

Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Josve05a (talk) 01:51, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletionEdit

Commons-emblem-issue.svg Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


Afrikaans | العربية | বাংলা | Беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ | Català | Čeština | Dansk | Deutsch | Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ | Zazaki | Ελληνικά | English | Esperanto | Español | Eesti | فارسی | Suomi | Français | Galego | עברית | Magyar | Bahasa Indonesia | Íslenska | Italiano | 日本語 | 한국어 | Македонски | മലയാളം | Plattdüütsch | Nederlands | Norsk nynorsk | Norsk bokmål | Occitan | Polski | Português | Português do Brasil | Română | Русский | Slovenčina | Slovenščina | Српски / srpski | Svenska | Türkçe | українська | Tiếng Việt | 中文 | 中文(简体)‎ | 中文(繁體)‎ | +/−

Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Josve05a (talk) 02:06, 19 October 2014 (UTC)