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Znakovi

Nema problema ako ćeš sve ujednačiti. Iako kad smo to, koliko se sjećam pronađen je točni standard (norma) boje. Sad se više ne sjećam gdje to piše.--Ex13 (talk) 06:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, hvala. Svi SVGovi su već spremni, danas ću ih postaviti. Pozdrav!--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sada su postavljeni svi D* znakovi - preostao je samo D200 kod kojega je napravljen revert.--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Izvor podataka

Bok, vidim da si uređivao oko državnih cesta. Nešto se igram sa OpenStreetMaps i zapravo sam našao ove podatke što si stavio na Wikipediju vrlo korisnima. E sad, do sada sam koristio onaj šturi opis državnih cesta iz narodnih novina, ovo tvoje je daleko preceiznije i lako je pratiti gdje se koja cesta s kojom križa. Naime iz narodnih novina uopće nije jasno kako D1 prolazi kroz/oko Zagreba. Ono što me zanima od kuda ti taj opis državnih cesta ? Ovo što si ti napisao mi se čini da su službene definicije državnih cesta, od kuda ti te informacije ? Postoji li takvo nešto i za županijske i lokalne ceste ? Tihomir (User: 9a4gl)

Osnova je službena definicija iz klasifikacija, a dio je iz raznih izvora, uključujući karte, članke itd. Sama klasifikacija javnih cesta u Narodnim novinama sadrži slične opise za županijske i lokalne ceste.

RJL tj. podaci o križanjima državnih/županijskih/lokalnih cesta na wiki dobiveni su uglavnom kao cross-reference ta tri niza opisa, a dodatni izvori su uglavnom korišteni radi potvrde manje jasnih dijelova, kao što su vođenje dvije ili više trasa javnih cesta jednom rutom (npr. D1/D3 od Karlovca do Lučkog, A3/D3 od Lučkog do čvora Popovec i sl. Informacije o cestama s više kolnika, petljama i sličnim objektima izvučene su iz vijesti, časopisa i drugih sličnih izvora i provjeravani pomoću Google Earth.

I sam sam pokušao te podatke prenijeti u OSM, međutim problem postoji (bar za mene) u tome što dio cesta nije ispravno označen (krivi broj), što je jednostavno ispraviti, ali i u tome što dio nije uopće ucrtan (npr D20 u blizini D41) - a ovo drugo nemam načina pouzdano napraviti.--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:38, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Ne mogu vjerovati da si to uspio tako napraviti iz navedenih izvora, moram priznati da sam bio uvjerenja da si to prepisao iz nekog službenog izvora iz ministarstva ili HCa. Jel netko pokušao doći do tih podataka u ministarstvu ili HCu ? Naime, jedino službeno je pravo, a ono službeno u NN je neprecizno. Naime, na Google i Mireo karti sam našao dosta pogrešaka. Ili pak kad nije jasno iz NN onda niti oni ne označavaju gdje ide državna cesta. Ovaj tvoj popis je vrlo precizan i na kraju kada zbrojiš dionice dobiješ dužinu iz NN.

Da, u OSMu ima grešaka, to je i za očekivati. Dosta sam ja toga ispravio. Polako sređujem državne ceste, istina fali nešto traceova, ali zapravo ideja sistematizacije toga i je da se vidi što nedostaje, pa će netko to već snimiti kada mu bude usput. Za sada mi se ne čini da jako malo toga nedostaje. Vidi http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Croatia/Ceste#Popis_dr.C5.BEavnih_cesta

Hm, nisam wiki ekpert. Zašto nisam dobio email da si promjenio ovu stranicu ako imam uključeno "Prati ovaj članak" ? Tihomir (User: 9a4gl)

Neće ti poslati email, već ćeš vidjeti poruku na vrhu zaslona tek kada se logiraš (i to na commons, ne samo na wiki).--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:49, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Heh, danas stigao email: "The Wikimedia Commons page User talk:Tomobe03 has been changed on 14 October 2010 by Tomobe03, see ..."

D41

Danas sam malo obrađivao D41, pa iz tvog opisa nije baš najjasnije što se događa u Koprivnici sa D2 i D41, jesu one tamo konkurentne ili ne ? Meni se čini da moraju biti.

Jesu, cca 2km.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

D46/D55

Nije mi jasno gdje su D46 i D55 konkurentne, po meni ispada da nisu, tj. da se sijeku. Možeš li to provjeriti ?

D46 i D55 koriste istu trasu na novoj Vinkovačkoj južnoj obilaznici - ranije je križanje bilo u samim Vinkovcima.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm, Vinkovačka južna zaobilaznica bi trebala biti ŽC 4290 (D46 – Vinkovci – D55), bar sam ja tako shvatio. Jedino što u NN piše da je 6,8km a u OSMu ispada da je 5,99km. 6.8km je ako je pak ŽC4290 konkurentna po tom čvoru do sa D46 sve do D518. Na tom čvoru D46 samo malo zavijuga i proleti u centar grada "kao i prije". Jesi ti bio doživio da je zaobilaznica ŽC4290 ?

Za ŽC u Vukovarskoj županiji bolji je opis dostupan na stranicama Županijske uprave za ceste. ŽC4290 prema tom opisu ide kroz Vinkovce, starom trasom D46 (prije izgradnje obilaznice). Rasprava o tome postoji na Talk stranici članka D46 (engleski). Slično dobar izvor su ŽUC Krapina, ŽUC Rijeka i još neke druge.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

D502/D56

NN veli da D502 ide do D56 a ne do Donjeg Zemunika. Dakle, mislim a niti D56 i D502 nisu konkurentne. Ako D502 ide do D56 onda i dužina u NN štima.

NN iz 2010 kaže (nejasno) da D502 ide do "Donjeg Zemunika (D56)". S obzirom da ovakav opis nema smisla, pretpostavljam da je autor mislio reći "do Donjeg Zemunika u blizini D56" takvu pretpostavku potkrepljuje dužina.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

D56/D59

Za D56 kažeš "There actually two D56/D59 intersections, the first one with the southbound D59, and the second one to the northbound section of D59", nije li klasična konkurentnost ? Možda je malo opis zbunjujuči, jer one su na tom dijelu konkurentne a ne razdvojene.

Ovako nepotpuna rečenica stvarno je zbunjujuća, međutim cijela glasi: D56 and D59 form two junctions, 300 m (980 ft) apart, and on this short section they are concurrent. i tako ima više smisla i potvrđuje upravo ovo što si napisao. Pojašnjenje je takvo zbog toga što je cijela trasa konkurentnosti smještene unutar Bribirskih Mostina.--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Zapravo mi je zbunjujuće to što sam iz napisanoga shvatio da se one sastanu, rastanu pa ponovno sastanu. Sportno je to što se ne rastanu (bar ja tako mislim), pa su zapravo konkurentne u toj dužini. U drugim slučajevima konkurentnosti cesta ne navodiš da se dva puta sijeku. Jesam li ja to krivo shvatio ili je ova konkurentnost po nečemu posebna ?

Ništa posebno... Međutim u članku D56 je greška kod tih križanja i konkurentnosti u toliko što ne stoji da je to sve skupa u Bribirskim Mostinama - stvar točnije izgleda u članku D59. Dodatno objašnjenje je što se (vidi D59) u Bribirskim Mostinama navode dva križanja s D56, pa objašnjenje služi tome da stvar ne izgleda kao greška. Oba križanja su T križanja. RJL kod D56 moram ispraviti tako da izgleda kao kod D59 --Tomobe03 (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

D314

U tvom opisu D314 ide do Ž4030. U tom slučaju bi bila 3.4km a ne 2.9 koliko piše u NN. Po mom 314 završava kod Ž4070. Ž4070ide od donjih pištana, križa se sa D314 i nastavlja do Ž4030. Teško je to ovako napismeno, ako imaš volje intaliraj si JOSM i njemu možeš vidjeti kako sam to nacrtao. OSM tiles sličice nisu odmah ažurirane, pa ne možeš vidjeti.

U ovom slučaju si u pravu: karta upravo tako pokazuje, stranicu ću izmijeniti vrlo brzo.--Tomobe03 (talk) 01:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

D403

Vidim da imaš opisanu 403. Da nije tu došlo do neke greške, naime ta još ne postoji. Npr. ovjde možeš vidjeti da nije ušla u 2010 proračun: http://wn.com/D403_%28Croatia%29 Tu se može vidjeti gdje će ići http://www.rijeka.hr/fgs.axd?id=14117 (krivi content-type pa preimenuj downloadani file u PDF) Zapravo, ne mogu naći podatak da ta cesta sada postoji. Gdje si bio našao da postoji i kojim putem ide ?

Nije greška - klasifikacija određuje D403 kao čvor Škurinje (A7) - luka Rijeka zapad (postojećim ulicama) - naime sve DC u klasifikaciji su po defaultu postojeće, bez obzira na moguće planirane nove trase, produženja itd. Nova trasa D403 stvarno nije u proračunu, a kada bude izvedena, nova klasifikacija bi morala navesti novu dužinu takve trase D403 i preimenovati sadašnju u županijsku, lokalnu ili nekategoriziranu cestu. --Tomobe03 (talk) 00:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Hm, veliš da su sve DC po defaultu postojeće. Naime, D532 ne postoji. Štoviše, u NN je dužina 2.4km. Najkraća udaljenost po postojećim cestama je 3.5km a ako mjerim udaljenost po budućoj trasi dobivam cca tih 2.4. I dalje mi je vrlo sumljivo da ta cesta postoji.

Ma da, mislim da bi kod D532 dužina mogla biti wishful thinking - nisam provjeravao, 2 dionice (jedna kod Zagvozda i druga u Baškoj Vodi) mogu se voditi po postojećim trasama, ali sumnjam da ih ima toliko.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Nisam bio dovoljno jasan, 2.4 je NN dužina za D403, a najkraća ruta po postojećim cestama je 3.5km. Dakle, dužina za D403 ne štima ako cesta postoji.

Moguće je da dužina jednostavno ne odgovara, već su se događale takve stvari - najnoviji popis sadrži na početku popis korekcija dužina (ne i za D403) tako da se očito takve stvari znaju događati--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Eh, da nemre jednostavno. Nego, koliko sam saznao, taj popis se mjenja 2 puta godišnje. Ima negdje koja institucija uvijek link na zadnji popis (HC ? ministarstvo?) ili moram uvijek pratiti NN ?

Poneki ŽUC ima takve podatke, ali naravno ne svi. Zapravo tek kad se pojavi u NN onda je službeno--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

D8 Rijeka

Upravo sam dođao do iznenađenja da je A7 podijeljena na dva dijela. Između ta dva dijela nalazi se lijepi dio, točnije 11.5 km koji nije A7. To je riječka zaobilaznica kojoj zapravo nigdje ne mogu odgonetnuti oznaku. Jedino što sam našao je ovo: http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w296/squirrelri/19092010028.jpg sa ovog foruma http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=872592&page=215 Naime, tu se vidi da je investitor te zaobilaznice HC i da nosi oznaku D8 ! E sada je pitanje kako tamo završava. Imaš ti kakvih referenci i saznanja kako D8 dospjeva na riječku zaobilaznicu ? Šta je na staroj D8 ruti ?

Tabla sadrži podatke iz građevinske/lokacijske. U međuvremenu je određena klasifikacija A7, a D8 i dalje ide kroz Rijeku (Kvarnerska cesta-Ljubljanska c.-Istarska-Liburnijska-Zvonimirova-Krešimirova-Riva-Slavka Cindrića-Šetalište XIII divizije-Kostrena-D40 kod Bakra). Potvrda ovoga postoji na stranicama ŽUC PGŽ.--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ona tabla je inače predmet opće zabune, pa je ARZ čak na jednoj novijoj tabli s udaljenostima (mislim čak zapadno od Drage) označio da je autocesta ujedno A7 i D8. Međutim trasa D8 je 100% sigurno u samoj Rijeci, a obilaznica je A7. Dodatna referenca je sam ARZ (pod "Riječka obilaznica")--Tomobe03 (talk) 01:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i meni je apsurdno da zaobilaznica bude D8. No sporno je što je zaobilaznica, na forumu je netko napisao da će najvjerojatnije postati A7. No nisam vidi dokaza da je postala. Naime, www.hac.hr veli da ima sektor rupa-rijeka i sektor rijeka-žuta lokva. Zaobilaznicu su zaobišli. www.arz.hr pod autocestama isto to ne spominje. Tek ako se ode na zaobilaznica onda se dođe do podatka da je to zapravo A7. Oko, nisu baš tako jasni i konzistentni no uzeti ću da je to A7. --9a4gl (talk) 08:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Apsolutno su nejasni, međutim ovdje navode da su čvorišta riječke obilaznice na A7, pa mislim da je posve sigurno odrediti obilaznicu kao A7.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I da ona tabla je stvarno zapadno od Drage, međutim mislim da to možemo pripisati zabuni.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

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Mape hrvatskih regija

Bok! Kreirao sam mapu Gorskog kotara ali nije ispala dobro. Can you help me fix it? :-) User:Tromber (talk) 19:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

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