Commons:Valued image candidates/Rozeta Paryż notre-dame chalger.jpg

Rozeta Paryż notre-dame chalger.jpg

undecided
Image  
Nominated by Albertus teolog (talk) on 2009-09-28 13:50 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
North rose window of Notre-Dame de Paris
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pl:Styl promienisty, pl:Katedra Notre-Dame w Paryżu, es:Belleza, eo:Belo, en:Rose window, ml:സൗന്ദര്യം
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  Comment Reviewers have to check also the following category : Category:Stained glass rose windows in Notre-Dame de Paris, where other images of this item are available. --Myrabella (talk) 15:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]


  Scope changed from South rose window of Notre-Dame de Paris to North rose window of Notre-Dame de Paris Albertus teolog (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please notify previous voters of this change. Remember: "A support vote that was made before a change of scope is not counted unless it is reconfirmed afterwards; an oppose vote is counted unless it is changed or withdrawn".

  •   Support under the amended scope. One could hesitate with this derivative work, but more details can be discerned in the nominated image, moreover a QI one. --Myrabella (talk) 00:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Sorry, I think a single rose window is not worth a scope. My previously expressed arguments still hold. --Eusebius (talk) 08:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    •   Comment Thanks to remind us this previous review of another image of the category. Nevertheless, I argue that this specific rose deserves a scope. VI rules say for buildings scopes :"Additional scopes can exceptionally be proposed if some part of the building is particularly worth of interest". I think it is the case here. The three roses of Notre-Dame de Paris can be considered as masterpieces of gothic stained glass windows. Someone interested in gothic art and architecture is able to identify each one at first glance because each one show different and significant aspects; moreover, the north rose, dating from 13th century, retains much more original glass and design than the two others, much restored. In a recent previous review, we finally promoted a specific portal of of San Marco Basilica in Venice for the same kind of reason, cf. that review. --Myrabella (talk) 09:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'd support a VI set for all three rose windows of Notre-Dame (and not for every single gothic cathedral of course), but not for this single one, sorry, I really think the scope is too narrow (as always with scope broadth, it is rather subjective an evaluation). The restoration of the other rose windows does not make them less significant for me (the three windows are very famous, and I'd like to point out that each one only gets a few lines in the French article, although the reference for a VI scope is often a dedicated article). Do we have the material for a VI set with the three ones? --Eusebius (talk) 09:53, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we could... For example, North rose, South rose, West rose (only picture of it in Commons), if the nominator agrees to set up a VI set after completing the description and addind geolocalisation for the two additional images. --Myrabella (talk) 15:57, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please ping me if such a VIS is proposed. I'm not very active anymore here, but I'd like to evaluate such a scope. I'm afraid I'll maintain my opposition on this one. --Eusebius (talk) 17:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest to replace Chagler's version with File:GothicRayonnantRose003.jpg which has better colors. MathKnight 18:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 
Version of this with color adjustments.
Thanks for your sugggestion. If you had taken the time to read this (long) review, you would have noticed that the discussion is now about a possible VI set, so the image you propose might be considered if someone decided to set up such a set some day. I have already indicated that personally, I prefer the "Chagler's version" to the derivated work you dispay because in "GothicRayonnant" version, the enhancement of colors has "burnt" a lot of details. --Myrabella (talk) 06:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Result: 1 support, 1 oppose =>
undecided. Rastaman3000 (talk) 17:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
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