Commons talk:Structured data/Archive 2024

Aerial photographs

How do you identify whether an aerial photo was taken from an airplane, a balloon or a drone? XRay 💬 19:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

By "identify" I assume you mean "indicate (if known)", not how you work it out from looking at the photo (which often you can't). - Jmabel ! talk 20:28, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

You're right, indicate. --XRay 💬 20:38, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little surprised we don't have a property corresponding to photographic technique (Q1439691). Then you could set the value of that to drone photography (Q12033087) (for example). Can anyone see a way to do an an equivalent of that? - Jmabel ! talk 20:36, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Please have a look to Category:Aerial photographs by camera vehicle. How to model camera vehicle? --XRay 💬 20:42, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Slightly off topic, but shouldn't Category:Aerial photographs by Smart Drone‎ be a subcat of Category:Unmanned aerial vehicle aerial photography? - Jmabel ! talk 01:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@XRay: It has been suggested on Wikidata that we could use genre (P136) with drone photography (Q12033087). - Jmabel ! talk 16:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

This is logical and understandable. However, another value that is often used is more general: aerial photography (Q191839). You can't tell from the value whether it was a drone, an airplane, a hot air balloon or something else. --XRay 💬 18:14, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

captured with (P4082) exists for drones and the like. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

How to depict flexed muscles with expression, gesture or body pose (P6022)?

How do you recommend modelling flexed muscles with expression, gesture or body pose (P6022) for photos like this one or other photos in Category:Biceps brachii? ? Lovelano (talk) 03:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

instead of p6022, try

depicts (P180)	Erin Cummings edit shown with features (P1354) supination of the forearm 1 reference inferred from (P3452) bicep curl add reference
		add value

perhaps? Arlo James Barnes 08:14, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Some more examples might be helpful.

I've been adding SDC, but I'm really not sure if I'm doing it right. Could I have some feedback, and is there a place for more examples? (I looked at Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Depiction.)

See File:Cape Air ticket counter at MWA airport.jpg; I've described it as a ticket counter, which is part of the specific airport. Is that the best way to express this?

I've added a captured with statement for the drone model in File:Caspersen Beach aerial view.jpg, but this is showing a warning. An I doing it wrong, or should this be automatically populated from EXIF or categories like Category:Taken with DJI FC220 anyway? (Is that happening in some cases but not others?)

For construction equipment like File:Caterpillar backhoe loader at construction site in Sunnyvale, back view.jpg, I get a warning when I say it depicts the generic type of equipment, and specify the make as the manufacturing company. I'm also not sure how to specify the model number. See also File:Google self-driving Lexus RX450h rear view.gk.jpg; specifying the make and model of a car seems reasonable, but I get a warning with the make and didn't know how to specify the model.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. I'm intrigued by the tools, but I feel like I'm using them... not quite right. grendel|khan 11:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

what property to mark a file that contains use of german sign language?

How do I add info about use of german sign language to a foto or to a video? C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 17:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

1. Click "Add statement".

2. Add property language of work or name (P407).

3. Add item German Sign Language (Q33282).

Lovelano (talk) 21:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

done, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Diversity_2023_25_(video_capture_001).png&diff=prev&oldid=861811635 ff. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 13:59, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Garbage "tags" still being added in bulk

So this is what the universe looks like. And NASA.

Well-intentioned users are still being encouraged by apps to stuff the depicts statement with garbage "tag" values.

For instance this recent edit tagged the above image of part of the surface of the Earth from the ISS as depicting the ISS, "Expedition 22", "outer space", NASA, and the universe. The edit summary includes #suggestededit-add-tag 1.0" and the edit is tagged "Mobile edit Mobile app edit Android app edit Suggested Edits edit".

How do we get this stopped? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Seconding this request. I find myself clearing crap like this off of the file pages of my pictures every day or two. How much of this must be accumulating on file pages that no one is watching? - Jmabel ! talk 18:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Strange, I never had crap tags added to the files I uploaded (not to say it is impossible, but it never happened to my pictures). Ymblanter (talk) 18:35, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Better instructions in the apps or a visual example? I'm speculating here but if people see a blank page they have no idea how to use correct properties so something to steer people towards right approach would be useful? Let's say people want to add "creation date" but the property they need is called "inception" - something to steer people towards right property might be useful. Another thing entirely is how well-made the translations for different languages are.. Ipr1 (talk) 21:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Imagine being a new user and you see an empty box on the page, so maybe you would assume that is where you put things and magic happens. Adding a statement? A claim? A qualifier? It takes a more experienced users to know what those are and how they relate to values they see on the page. Ipr1 (talk) 21:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I frequently have crap tags added to my pictures, which I remove.

It isn't a matter of better teaching clueless newbies what is a good value to add as a "depicts" on someone else's picture. It's a matter of not encouraging clueless newbies to add these. - Jmabel ! talk 07:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC)