User talk:Ellin Beltz

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I noticed the talk page semi-protection - that's a definite sign of an active admin! Keep up the great work! INeverCry 04:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Also, if it makes you feel any better, at least you don't get messages like these. That's this guy... INeverCry 04:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Big Mike, Muffler Man, Hayward, California.jpg

So, is this being kept or deleted? the comment you left doesnt match the action taken. if its to be deleted, how about all the other images of muffler men w/o detailed info on their pre 1978 copyright status? if its the only one, i definitely feel singled out.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:25, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mercurywoodrose: It was a fat-fingered mistake. Thank you for pointing it out; they should all have been the same! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:30, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


Hi Ellin,

I trust you are fine. I love your userpage design. Can I copy it for use on my userpage? With kind regards. Wikicology (talk) 11:20, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wikicology... Sure, but you really want the whole thing? Most of it is references so I don't always have to use the same computer and its bookmarks! The images of course are all from Commons! Thank you for the compliment! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:39, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Ellin, I found everything on that page valuable. With kind regards. Wikicology (talk) 15:05, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Hey Stranger

Hi Ellin, I am doing housekeeping now on the many contributions I made and I am wondering if I can automate the process. I hope that you are well. I still post a pic or two really just for you but I decided that I need to really organize my contributions before some clown "indefs" me here on commons for taking too nice of photos and donating them. Live and learn...

I would like to replace the author filed with my name and no link, should be easy enough one would think. Also I made a cat for D Ramey Logan and it would be great to have some script just place that cat on every one of my almost 1500 contributions.

I have been doing it by hand and don't have the month it will take to get it done.

Thank you, talk soon ok! ;) --D Ramey Logan (talk) 09:00, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You can use VFC. Jee 10:35, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Heya D Ramey Logan: JEE is totally right, just click where it says VFC! Cheers!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:59, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Duplicate image


I found duplicate images:

I'm not sure if these can be merged, or maybe one should be deleted?

These also seem to be two different version of the same file:

Thanks! Mvolz (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Mvolz: I put in a deletion request for the smaller of the two candle holders, the other one is harder to decide because people might like it better pointing one way or another, so I didn't ask that the "duplicate" be deleted, because with the change in orientation, it seems not to be exactly the same. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:02, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Matthieu Bastien


Could you elaborate on the reason for Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Matthieu Bastien? For example, why did you nominate some drawings by Matthieu Bastien and not some others? This files were used on an exernal wiki and can be used on Wikimedia articles like fr:Brest 2016. We we're 20 wikimedians there and we upload a lot of files, including some drawings (and we did the same thing in 2012 and 2008, so we are a bit perplexed about this deletion).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 14:31, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi VIGNERON: I must have missed the second batch the first time, please see Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Matthieu Bastien where I fixed the error by nominating the rest of them. Commons isn't a personal art gallery, these are personal sketches, out of COM:SCOPE. Pinging also INeverCry who was the deleting admin for the first set. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
We only keep artworks by notable artists. Perhaps these can be uploaded directly to Any use on fr:Brest 2016 would be questionable at best. Illustrating an article on any Wikipedia with your own personal artworks is gratuitous and self-promotional. INeverCry 18:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
@Ellin Beltz, INeverCry: I respectfully but strongly disagree. Why would the technic matters? We accept files regardless of the technic used, it can be photos, videos, sounds, whatever, or drawings. I don't see why a drawing would be a less valuable representation than a photo or a video. Moreover, we have a lot of drawing made by simple and not-notable users (I see a lot of drawings for coats of arms for instance) ; as far as I know, there is no rule against drawings, how a personal sketch could be less useful then a personal photo? If needed, I'll took these file from the deleted history and upload them to wiki-brest but I'll think it would be a great loss for Wikimedia projects. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 10:52, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Think about the number of artworks hosted on deviantART alone. Millions and millions. If Commons scope were suddenly made to encompass artwork of any kind by anybody, we would have a mess of noneducational files. Some of them would no doubt be somewhat educational, but the majority wouldn't be. As for COAs, these have an historical background. The COA is in scope itself, so the person who does the rendering is secondary. I've deleted plenty of fake COAs and flags. We get a lot of uploads here that are drawings of teddy bears and women, or abstract paintings. If we allowed the above drawings to be hosted on Commons, how would we be able to say any of the others should be deleted? What if it was a scribbly drawing by a kid (I've deleted hundreds of these here)? COM:SCOPE is relatively strict for a reason. Personal artworks can be displayed on Facebook, Twitter, deviantART, and many other sites, but Commons maintains an educational standard. INeverCry 19:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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