User talk:Ellin Beltz

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I noticed the talk page semi-protection - that's a definite sign of an active admin! Keep up the great work!   INeverCry 04:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Also, if it makes you feel any better, at least you don't get messages like these. That's this guy... INeverCry 04:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Also, have some tea (if you like it) and I hope you feel better soon! Storkk (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Thankies Storkk! Love tea! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Files of user User:BavariaYachtbau

Hi Ellin Beltz

I cannot understand your deletion of the files from the above user (i.e. File:Bavaria Cruiser 55 II.jpg). The account is confirmed to be linked to the Bavaria Company, so they clearly have the right to upload their company images. At the very least, there needs to be a deletion discussion about this. --PaterMcFly (talk) 09:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi PaterMcFly: The files exif data showed they were created by different people. So there is no single entity which created the images, thus it's not a company right to upload images issue, but rather one of images created by different people being claimed as own work, which they weren't. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:13, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Err... Obviously, these were promotional images by the company. Since it can be assumed that the company owns the rights to their promotional images, it's irrelevant who actually created them and that they where different people. --PaterMcFly (talk) 17:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Err PaterMcFly: Commons doesn't accept imaginary licenses. COM:EVID requires this information from the uploader, and COM:PRP protects the project. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I know the rules. "Dubious own work claim" is not a reason for a speedy deletion, especially not if it's obvious that it should have said "we (the company) own the image rights". Also, we have an OTRS ticket (#2012022710009281) that may contain information about their images and at least contact details to clarify. --PaterMcFly (talk) 07:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Since Ellin's not an OTRS member, you'd be better off at COM:UDEL or COM:OTRS/N. As regards speedy deletion reasons, what's the point of spinning your wheels about that? The files have been deleted. Past tense. Should'a, could'a, would'a. BTW, when someone starts a comment with "Err", they just sound like a prissy little douchebag. lNeverCry 08:43, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
INeverCry: I'll go to COM:UDEL then. I didn't know how commons handles that, but over on dewiki we handle contested speedy deletions by creating an ordinary DR (and restoring the files/articles meanwhile, if they had been deleted already). Undeletion requests are only needed if the DR decision is to be reviewed. Never mind. --PaterMcFly (talk) 09:37, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Files article Madur Kapila

The reason for proposed deletion of three photograph files is absurd. As a matter of fact, I do own all three cameras and several more. Besides, these photographs have been taken over several years and are very much my own work. Please remove the objections. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajeshwar Chahal (talk • contribs) 18:44, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

You got a camera you could spare? All I've got is a shitty Coolpix I bought in 2010... lNeverCry 21:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Rajeshwar Chahal: Please discuss this at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Rajeshwar Chahal, nothing discussed on a talk page can be considered by the closing administrator. "Deletion Nominations" are not an "execution", they're what they are titled ... a "nomination". If there's a problem with it, reply at the page, and the closing administrator will add your statement to consideration. The people who really do own copyrights are usually glad that we're watching out for them. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

rejected pictures

Hello Ellin,

some time ago, we wanted to upload some new pictures to our Hunkemöller-Wikisite, but most of these pictures weren't admitted by you. The reason for the rejection was a possible copyright infringement. Why did that happen and how can we solve the problem? Can you maybe retract the blockage, so we are able to try it once again? Hunkemöller has the rights for those pictures. They were shooted for different campaigns of us and were used after this. What do we have to do so that these pictures can be uploaded to our wikisite? Best regards, Danica Franke - Marketing Germany — Preceding unsigned comment added by LingerieAddict (talk • contribs) 12:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi LingerieAddict: First, you seem to have perhaps a misunderstanding of the scope of the project here. Commons is not hosting "your wikisite", there is no ownership of pages on the project. Also it is out of scope of the project to advertise products or companies. The images previously uploaded

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Hello Ellin Beitz, thank you so much for your helpful answer! So, do we understand it correctly, that we aren't allowed to upload pictures of models in our products? We really didn't know that. :) Best regards, D. Franke — Preceding unsigned comment added by LingerieAddict (talk • contribs) 09:32, 13 January 2017 (UTC) Hi LingerieAddict: If you feel that the images are not promotional of specific products or services, please have the appropriate agent of your company read COM:OTRS and send the requested email to them. Understanding that our OTRS volunteers are also backed up, give the process about a month, and if the permissions are ok, the OTRS volunteers are able to restore the images. Please refrain from reuploading the exact same images until the OTRS is sorted out. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

USGov sourced

You deleted File:Scott Taylor (politician).jpg, which was uploaded from a government facebook page with the metadata confirming that it was take by an employee of the US Gov. Thank you Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Greetings Secondarywaltz: I restored the image, based on the metadata; but are you aware that Facebook is an entirely "walled garden" and it is impossible for people not in Facebook (like myself) to check that photos are there? I cannot see that alleged "government facebook page" as facebook doesn't allow me to see anything unless it's checked somehow public - which the link on that file was not. Thus clicking on the link took me to a blank page that says "LOG IN TO SEE MORE", and obviously that's not going to happen. For PD-GOV photos, Facebook is not the source, perhaps you could find the real source of this image and put it on the file? Given that not everyone is allowed to see the source, and that 99.9% of the uploads from Facebook are copyvios, it would be best to find the real sources of the image. It doesn't happen often, but I'm sure you know it's possible to append false meta to photos - so we really need to see the source! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:31, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. This was originally uploaded by another editor and I just cleaned things up. I am advising people to find the original source for an official portrait and I generally tag Facebook sources as copyright. In this case, although it is Facebook, it did appear to be a government creation with valid metadata for the picture. A seemingly new naïve uploader, would have to go to a lot of work to set up a false page and change the photo data simply to upload here. Other unverified uploads were tagged as copyright. Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:44, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Salud Carbajal

Hi! A few days ago I uploaded a different version of a pre-existing file (File:Salud carbajal.jpg) that was simply the same photo with an higher resolution. Then I saw that you deleted that file for a copyright problem. Maybe you have to delete my file too then. File:Salud Carbajal.png. I'm sorry but I'm not an expert of Commons and copyright and I uploaded the file simply because it already existed in a lower resolution version. --Pierluigi05 (talk) 01:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC) Edit: However the photo is also here [1], maybe I just have to change the source? --Pierluigi05 (talk) 01:30, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Pierluigi05: I nominated the image for deletion, because I couldn't find it on the link you gave me. If you can find an actual link to the photo itself, please add that to the nomination so the closing admin can take a look at it. The man's page has a pile of photos on it, but none appears to be exactly the same as the one that is here. This is just a process, don't worry! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
You are right. The image on the link is not exactly the same but only the background is different. In the House website there is the same pfoto with a white background instead of the flag. As I said before, I'm not an expert of copyright and I usually don't upload images so I don't know if the background make a difference or not. --Pierluigi05 (talk) 17:05, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hello. I noticed you marked my picture File:Rossignol Zymax Skating.png to deletion due to copyright violation 2 years ago. I took the picture by myself. (The object was pair of cross-country skies.) Could it be undeleted? --Kulmalukko (talk) 13:39, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

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