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I noticed the talk page semi-protection - that's a definite sign of an active admin! Keep up the great work! Face-wink.svg INeverCry 04:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Also, if it makes you feel any better, at least you don't get messages like these. That's this guy... INeverCry 04:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

deleted pdf - see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Geschwister-Scholl-Weg und Gedenkstein in Ruhland.pdf

Hallo Ellin Beltz, the structure of Wikipedia-page "Geschwister Scholl" requires 2, 3 or 4 sub-categories for 4 named objects (a path, a school, and 2 memorial stones there: Geschwister-Scholl-Schule, Gedenkstein an der Geschwister-Scholl-Schule, Geschwister-Scholl-Weg, Gedenkstein am Geschwister-Scholl-Weg) and their pictures. Every picture may have an explanation, but it will be much better, if there were explanation on relations between them. But this is a (and then are 2...4) Commons-sub-categories - will they then be deleted by reasons of project scope? Or I must link a new Wikipedia-page into the Commons-sub-category - dont know, how and if its possible at all. Therefor I created the pdf, which was deleted without answering of my questions, at last, if a similar jpg will be accepted. Thanks for answer Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 23:43, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR: There seems to be some confusion in your notes. This isn't Wikipedia, it's Wikimedia Commons and *pdf files are out of scope. You need to upload only your own work images to Commons and then link to Wikipedia. Each image needs to be uploaded separately, please do not make collages or collections of pictures. For questions about "why was my pdf file deleted?" Please read Commons:Project scope#PDF and DjVu formats, Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:17, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Ellin Beltz, first thanks for answer. I thought the Category {{Category:Hans and Sophie Scholl} and sub-Category Category:Geschwister-Scholl-Gedenkstein in Ruhland‎ are in Commons. The Wikipedia-page "Geschwister Scholl" contains the Link Template:Commonscat, and I must follow this path. So my question is, how restricted is the explanation on relationships between the categorized pictures and perhaps between sub-Categories, i.e. text and perhaps links, in a Commons-sub-Category ? If its strong restricted and I need the relationship's explanation: (how) can I link a Wikipedia-page into small explanation instead of complex text in a Commons-sub-Category ? (The linking of Commons-objects (e.g. pictures or Categorys) "up" to Wikipedia is clear, but linking "down" a Wikipedia-page to a Commons-sub-Category to avoid complex explanations (text) - dont know, how and if its possible at all). If the explanation text in a Commons-sub-Category is allowed, I need no pdf. "downlinked" Information from Wikipedia may be helpful, if possible. Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 11:26, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR: What language do you speak as a native? I'd like to find a ______-speaking Administrator to help you. Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Ellin Beltz, my native language is german - in my User-"profile" are the Categories: User de User de-N User en User en-1 May be ChrisiPK is what you seek. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk • contribs) 22:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC) Greetings Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 22:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR: Yes, ChrisiPK or JuTa perhaps could help? I apologize, I have no German at all with with to help. I always ask people about their languages instead of making the assumption! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:19, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Hallo Ellin Beltz, once more thanks for answer (or investigation). The pdf was occasion, the source of the problem seems to be in the border region to Wikipedia. So the title of further discussion could (or should) be changed . . . Quite right, my questions are in Commons, because of the existing categories tree for the ("my" 4) objects clearly is here. I could seek a solution with a page in Wikikedia, but then I ignore the category tree, and I fear then in Wikipedia it will be no good categorization - with respect to priority and comparability of the objects. Therefor its a borderline case. So I tried to explain the problem to ChrisiPK in german to find an anwer, if its allowed to discribe relationships between named objects respectively her Commons-sub-categories in the sub-categories or in a page and redirect these information in these Commons-sub-categories. May be this will be out of Scope in Commons - or will for this case educative text or a link in a Commons-sub-category be admissible ? Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 21:27, 24 July 2016 (UTC)


The author already sent permission 9 days ago; you have the email address offered, so in case you lost the original email you can still contact him. This refusal to offer closure is hilariously petty, but it needs to be concluded. - Falconfly talk 16:03, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Falconfly: All discussion on this file needs to be on Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ichthyoconodon.jpg. And you need to be patient, COM:OTRS can take up to three weeks, if not longer. Hostility to me and JuTa on the Deletion Nomination is unnecessary. Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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Here she is just a few minutes ago: File:Feral cat eating 2016.JPG. I got her and the other two some proper bowls a while back. The black one looks like its eye is going to be fine. Face-smile.svg INeverCry 23:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad she's ok!! Face-wink.svg Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tintin et Capitaine Haddock (graffiti).jpg

Hello. Thank you for closing this DR. Please note that Belgium has now FOP (since July 15th), so the question of the copyright is not relevant any more. That is why I asked the deletion for quality reasons. Best regards, BrightRaven (talk) 09:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

no evidence for own work, COM:OTRS required

Dear Ellin,

I uploaded some graphics in the german wikipedia "Wildunfälle". You can see the list in the photo I added. I think the problem ist the evidence for my own work. The login "Jagdexperte" is made by "Deutscher Jagdverband". So I am really the creator of the graphics and they are free to download on: Is it possible to accept, that Jagdexperte ist the owner of the graphics or what can I do to avoid these problems, even with the other photos in the list. Thanks for helping me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagdexperte (talk • contribs) 10:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Jagdexperte,
I am not an administrator, so I cannot see the deleted photos, but Ellin is an administrator, and administrators can see the deleted photos. You do not have to upload a screenshot to show a list of deleted photos. Ellin can see them automatically. Also, if you can prove that you created the graphics and the photos, they will appear again (an administrator can do that, so you do not have to upload them again). But I see some problems. For example, File:Sicherheit bei Jagd.jpg says "Quelle: Mross/DJV" (Source: Mross/DJV). So, I suppose that picture was taken by Mross for DJV. But File:Jäger auf dem Hochsitz.jpg says "Quelle: Kapuhs/DJV" here [1]. So, I suppose that picture was taken by Kapuhs for DJV. The graphic File:Aufprallgewicht.jpg says "Quelle: DJV" here [2]. So I believe these images were taken by different people, at least more than one person, not just you. I think you need permission from those people to have the pictures here on Commons. I see this email address on DJV: ... for (Torsten Reinwald). Maybe he can help. But please wait for Ellin to reply to you. Good luck... Dontreader (talk) 19:20, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi Jagdexperte: The images were taken down from view because there was no indication of user's own work. There is no way to tell that Jagdexperte is also Torsten Reinwald without Mr. Reinwald following the instructions at COM:OTRS. I am sure you understand that people can say "I made this, and I own the website" but only by using COM:OTRS can we verify that. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:37, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

U.S. Government data

Hi - U.S. Government data is in the public domain and cannot be copyrighted.

Please don't delete my Wikimedia entries!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginia Tech Libraries (talk • contribs) 19:46, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Virginia Tech Libraries: It has nothing to do with Government data and everything to do with copying the work of another from a book, and uploading it to Commons as own work. You cannot copy other people's work, that's called a Derivative Work and is not able to be uploaded to Commons. To take from only one of your images "Originally published in Fundamentals of Business by Stephen J. Skripak . Created for Virginia Tech Libraries by Brian Craig" Permission is needed from Mr. Skripak and Mr. Craig. Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:50, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ellin, The Virginia Tech Libraries own the copyright for the images which we commissioned Mr. Craig to create. These are a Work for Hire and the Dean of the Libraries (Mr. Craig's now former boss) has given permission for the images to be openly licensed and freely available to the public. Please send me your email and I'll forward this to you in writing. The book "Fundamentals of Business" is being published by the Virginia Tech Libraries in collaboration with Mr. Skripak's department. It will have a Creative Commons license on it. The images, however, are owned by the Virginia Tech Libraries and we would like to share them with the world. Kindly reinstate these images. Thank you Virginia Tech Libraries (talk) 21:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Virginia Tech Libraries: Sorry, but that's not how it works. COM:EVID requires the uploader to chase around for permissions (if required). Please follow the process at COM:OTRS. Thank you. Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:25, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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