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Kacir (talk) 18:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dodrý den, chybějící potvrzení licence, ev. odkaz na ni ve zdrojové stránce, se týká těchto obrázků:

Děkuji za pochopení.--Kacir (talk) 18:29, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Od kdy jsou derivativní díla, tj. fotografie obrazů, chráněna autorským právem, můžete mi laskavě vysvětlit? --Guy Peters (talk) 18:46, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Jako autorka fotografií, resp. držitelka autorských práv k nim, je uvedena Blanka Jakubčíková, která by měla dát souhlas s uvedenou licencí.--Kacir (talk) 19:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Na to jste přišel jak? Takže malíř bude dávat souhlas k fotografii svého obrazu? Od kdy? --Guy Peters (talk) 19:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Neměl by dávat ten souhlas především autor fotografie, který ji vytvořil? Mohu se zeptat, proč nelze některá díla, alespoň dle popisu, na Commons nahrávat? Např. Kupkův obraz. Pokud je tedy možné nahrávat fotografie uměleckých děl vytvořené jinou osobou, pak by se to nemělo týkat souborů File:JZ foto.jpg, File:007 pri praci v londyne.png, File:Bj profilovka.jpg. Nebo máte jiný názor?--Kacir (talk) 19:27, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Mám to samozřejmě od autora fotografií. Ale protože to není wikipedista, tak to sem nechtěl sám dávat.

To, že je na wiki něco špatně zatříděné, není argument. Podstatou autorství je kreativita. Fotografii osoby vždy vyfotí každý autor různě. Fotku obrazu udělá každý "autor" stejně. Proto to není autor.

U zbylých fotografií sice máte pravdu, ale zbytečně jste nám zavařil. No nic, budeme muset ty skutečně autorsky chráněné fotografie vyřešit přes OTRS, ačkoliv autor nic takového nežádá, takže jste byl zbytečně aktivní.

--Guy Peters (talk) 20:51, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Přiznám se, že mě nahrání překvapilo ve dvou věcech. Samozřejmě jako laika, který trochu pozoruje licenční přístup Commons:

že jste nahrál fotografie jiného autora bez průkazu jeho svolení.
k nahrání uměleckého díla: Včera mi na Wiki psal kolega NoJin, jak někdy obtížně získává svolení od umělců pro Commons. Pokud rozumím správně, tak např. k tomuto akrylu na plechu není vůbec nutné vyžadovat svolení autora via šablonu OTRS?
Nevzniká tím problém komerčního a propagačního využití? Protože všechny soubory lze k těmto účelům využít. Co když s tím autor díla nebude souhlasit?

Osobně si nejsem jistý naplněním licenčních podmínek označených souborů, takže šablony neodstraním. Vy jste profesionál a samozřejmě soubory můžete editovat, pokud jste přesvědčen, že je věc v pořádku. Prosím Mormegila, aby se na věc podíval. Díky.--Kacir (talk) 21:26, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Podle mého názoru, s ohledem na znění licence CC BY SA , je nutný u všech uměleckých děl souhlas autora, ale rovněž souhlas fotografa obrazu nebo sochy. Fotografové většinou (až na výjimky jako jsem já) nefotografují umělecká díla zadarmo a hrozí potenciální problém, pokud by jejich kvalitní fotku někdo užil ke komerčním účelům. Nelze jim mít za zlé, když svolení nedají - je to práce, která je živí. Z vlastní zkušenosti podotýkám, že kvalitní fotka sochy, ale i obrazu či kresby není pouhá rutinní záležitost, zabere poměrně dost času a fotografové dokážou takovou práci ocenit (i si ji nechat zaplatit).--NoJin (talk) 21:59, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Jelikož jsem byl vyvolán, tak reaguji, i když, přiznám se, úplně nevím na co, uniká mi kontext. Vidím soubory obsahující vyfocené obrazy, u kterých je uveden autor i licence. Takže leda pár obecných poznámek: U fotografie (dosud chráněného) obrazu jsou obecně vzato autorská práva dvou autorů: autora obrazu a fotografa. Ale přinejmenším pokud jde o „běžnou“ „věrnou“ fotografii, tak je v zásadě postoj WMF a pravidlo na Commons, že na práva fotografa se zde víceméně nehledí, neboť ve věrném vyfotografování 2D díla neexistuje žádná kreativita, tudíž nejde o autorské dílo (vizte zejména COM:PDART). (Stranou ponechávám, do jaké míry je toto aplikovatelné v českém právu, to si ostatně Guy Peters dokáže analyzovat jistě sám.) Autorská práva autora obrazu (pokud již obraz není volným dílem) je samozřejmě třeba respektovat vždy. A ohledně potvrzování uvolnění příslušných práv via OTRS jsou samozřejmě pravidla platná obecně. Nebo se mě Kacir ptal na něco jiného? --Mormegil (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Díky za vysvětlení. Nenapsal jsem to jasně, ale chtěl jsem, aby ses na věc podíval a případně odstranil mnou vložené šablony, pokud k nim není důvod. Pokud to správně interpretuji: jestliže by byly dané obrazy volným dílem, pak se na jejich „věrné“ fotografie nevztahuje autor. právo fotografa, a lze je nahrát i bez jeho souhlasu (žádná kreativita). V tomto případě ovšem dané obrazy požívají autorskoprávní ochrany, takže jejich fotografie nelze nahrát bez souhlasu autora-malíře. Svolení by měl autor-malíř zaslat mailem do OTRS, k čemuž vyzývá {{Npd}}. Teď jsem dohledal také reakci na stejné téma z roku 2007.--Kacir (talk) 18:07, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

A proč bych měl mít průkaz od autora? Myslíte, že bych sem jen tak nahrál nějakou fotografii proti vůli autora? Snad mám nějaký kredit, ne? Autorka navíc poslala OTRS, tak snad brzy bude zpětná reakce. Zdá se, že Vám AGF nic neříká.

Co se týká obrazů, to je něco jiného. Debata byla o tom, zda fotografie obrazů jsou autorské dílo. Co se týká obrazů, je to tak, jak píše Mormegil. Autorka je srozuměna s tím, co CC-BY-SA 3.0 znamená, jinak by mne o to nežádala.

Co se týká fotografií derivativních děl, platíte za to, že Vám to někdo udělá. Ale neplatíte za autorské dílo.

--Guy Peters (talk) 18:25, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Tenhle projekt ovšem nestojí na víře a kreditu. I když je autorka se vším srozuměna, nikdo nemá křišťálovou kouli, aby v ní ten souhlas viděl. Navíc doložený souhlas může požadovat kdokoli, nejen český wikipedista. Jistě by následovaly další případy a mohli bychom rovnou založit šablonu "věřte mi, je to tak".
K otázce: A proč bych měl mít průkaz od autora?, cituji poslední odstavec Mormegilova příspěvku z r. 2007: Pokud autorovo svolení k šíření díla nemáte (a samozřejmě pokud se dosud nejedná o volné dílo), tak obrázek do Wikipedie (ani jinam vyjma užití pro vlastní potřebu) nahrávat podle zákona nesmíte. Což ale víte.
Snad nebyl problém poslat jeden email.--Kacir (talk) 21:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC) / --Kacir (talk) 21:42, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Nastudujte si Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Je ostudné, že to neznáte.

I když je autorka se vším srozuměna, nikdo nemá křišťálovou kouli, aby v ní ten souhlas viděl. Opravdu si nastudujte tuto základní politiku wikipedie. Všechny potřebné souhlasy samozřejmě mám.

Snad nebyl problém poslat jeden email. Autorka poslala OTRS již v pondělí. Tak to tam laskavě prošťouchněte, bude to rozhodně užitečnější než Vaše předpokládání špatné víry.

--Guy Peters (talk) 14:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Opravdu wikipedisté nemají křišťálovou kouli, z níž by mohli zjistit danou skutečnost. A když už jste s tím začal, odkazovanou stránkou se můžete začít řídit, abyste příště nepsal nepravdy: "... zbytečně jste nám zavařil ... autor nic takového nežádá, takže jste byl zbytečně aktivní." U autorsky chráněného obsahu bez licence se může o zbytečnou aktivitu jednat jen stěží, navíc není zřejmé, čím a komu jsem tím měl zavařit.--Kacir (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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