User talk:Magog the Ogre

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Magog the Ogre is taking it easy these days, and might not respond immediately.

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Date cleanupEdit

Hi Magog, could you use your bot to clean up dates contained in the taken parameter of the {{Flickr}} template. Example: File:Igrexa de Santiago de Gustei.jpg. Search: [1]. Thanks, --Arnd (talk) 17:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Aschroet: yeah I'll get to that. It might be a while. I'm trying my luck at OAuth right now so I don't have to rely on TUSC. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:22, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Cool, thank you a lot. Good luck. --Arnd (talk) 04:27, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Luise Kaish image "Sphere" at Dartmouth College's Hood MuseumEdit

Hello Magog--Thank you for your message. I have permission from the Hood Museum to use the image, which either I or they can forward by e-mail. I just wasn't sure who to contact, or how to relay that information. Navigating these image permissions is new to me, and I want to do the right thing! I just wasn't sure of the best way to demonstrate that I have the needed permissions. Any help or guidance you could offer would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time. Sarahcmccollum (talk)

@Sarahcmccollum: Hi Sarah. It is no problem. Please see the instructions here: Commons:Email templates. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Magog! I appreciate it. Sarahcmccollum (talk)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Original Barnstar
My congratulations on your work AbelNsamba2014 (talk) 23:55, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

user uploading hundreds of snapshotsEdit

Hi Magog- How do we deal with a user like this? He seems to be using Commons as a personal photo album--of images of unexceptional quality, with timestamps--and placing them in galleries on multiple wikis. He's uploaded hundreds of snaps of some convention, all with meaningless filenames. Thanks in advance for any tips. --Eric my en.wp talk page 19:07, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

@EricM: he seems to be uploading a lot of useful content, many of it with useful filenames. I'm not really seeing where the problem is. Can you be more specific? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Well, if you don't see a problem in his contribution list, that tells me there might not be one. I'm not familiar enough with Commons policy to cite any rule; it just looks to me like he's making a mess here. I managed to get a link to an IRC thread from yesterday that might help answer your question (My handle there is MrPique). I got the impression from a couple people there, who might be admins, that they agreed with me that much of his content was out of scope. Hope the link works, and thanks for your time! --Eric my en.wp talk page 23:28, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
@EricM: with regards to just inserting images: we don't worry about that. We leave such decisions up to the host wiki. As for timestamps, you can mark such images with {{watermark}}. We don't usually delete images for that reason. We also don't always have to use all images someone uploads. In fact, most images are not in use. As long as they could be realistically usable at some point, they are in scope. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:34, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the info. So, just to be sure I understand, the 281 machine-named snapshots of unknown people watching game theory conference PowerPoint slides are acceptable by our standards? --Eric my en.wp talk page 13:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
And if I haven't pestered you enough, I'm adding a link to another question as I try to better familiarize myself with our criteria: User_talk:INeverCry#Thanks_and_question. --Eric my en.wp talk page 22:50, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
@EricM: if you think they aren't useful, you are welcome to nominate them for deletion. You might find a friendly audience. But you might also upset a regular (and notable) user with a lot of useful contributions. Personally, I don't think it's worth it. Other than that, I can't give you a rigid guideline, because none exists. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:10, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Now that I see he's in my dad's age category of computer user, I realize that he likely has no idea that he might not want to upload every snap he takes at a convention. --Eric my en.wp talk page 02:28, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

إليك وساما!Edit

  وسام الاجتهاد
Hello I'm hamza from Morocco

I study at university I am 22 years old my hobby boxing and swimming and music how are you I want to ask ? what is the problem 630 10:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HAMZACLAY (talk • contribs) 10:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Maybe User:Jameslwoodward can answer this, as he nominated the files for deletion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:10, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Magog.
In both cases, if you disagree, you may comment under my words on either DR. If you make comments in other places, such as Commons talk:Deletion requests/File:HAMZA CLAY BACK.jpg , they will not likely be seen by anyone. If you have questions about Commons, you may ask Magog here, or me at my talk page. You may also ask questions in English at Commons:Village pump or in Arabic at Commons:الميدان. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:16, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Courtesy ping to User:HAMZACLAY. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 11:00, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

File:RUC PSNI Dungiven.JPGEdit

Just curious: how did you find out the name of the original uploader? Kind regards, Tekstman (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

@Tekstman: I deleted it on English Wikipedia.[2]. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Giorgi BalakhadzeEdit

Hi, I am writing to you about User:Giorgi Balakhadze. I am very new to this website and do not know how to report problems with users, but I looked at the blocks that this user had and you were the one that blocked him. You were also the one who unblocked him not too long ago. The user started changing maps based on his biased opinion. First I saw that he removed all Armenian majority areas from File:Europe religion map en.png, he fixed it after I left a message on his page, but if I hadn't he would've never corrected it to the right information. He also changed File:Georgia (orthographic projection with inset).svg in the way it shows the unrecognized regions. I reverted because there was no reason for that and he changed back to his version because he claims "when it is shown in 250px in articles Abkhazia all disappears, this pattern better saves contours" but that is not true. He also left a message on my page about not reverting with discussion, but he made all of his edits without any discussion and reverted back to them, so what he is basically saying is that if he changes maps it is okay but if someone else changes it back it is not okay. He also changed all EU maps by removing all other disputed regions like Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia, Northern Cyprus and others. He only left Kosovo with disputed borders. That shows him not being neutral and making biased changes. I looked at his other contributions on here and on Wikipedia and also I looked at his blocks on both websites and it is very clear that he has a very biased opinion on Georgia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia as he is Georgian. I noted that when I left a message on his page, but he told me that that "means nothing in Wikipedia" except that I am sure that making biased changes based on your personal opinion is not allowed here. I thought that if I leave a message for him that he would at least start thinking over making biased changes or at least discuss with someone like he told me to do on my page, but he didn't. He continued to make those changes to all other European maps. I would not have reported him if he stopped doing that, but now I see that he is doing that even after I tried to talk to him about it so it is clear that he disregarded this issue. --Gyumrilak (talk) 22:33, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Update, the user continues to make biased changes even on maps like File:Blank map of Europe.svg. He changed the map by removing all disputed areas citing com:overwite as the reason. The original file was uploaded in 2007 before many of them even existed in its current form. That map was uploaded so long ago that Serbia and Montenegro were still one country. It is obvious that that map was changing as the borders changed. it is also very neutral by showing diputed areas with disputed borders. By his logic, should we still show Serbia and Montenegro as one country because that was the original version. Please help stop the vandalism that this user is doing on here by changed so many maps to his biased opinion. --Gyumrilak (talk) 22:47, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
I've explained my edits for every file and also answered to your questions here. About Armenians it was huge mistake with borders and simply reverted to previous condition of that area (as in original) because even now it is only our imaginations about the religion there, map does not provide any source to prove that those areas there are exactly like you want to show, today after your message I've immediately started editing that map as an act of good faith (it is png file not svg and it took a lot time) and I gave somehow normal view to the map, what you wanted to leave was a big mistake I am telling this as a human geographer.--g. balaxaZe 22:48, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
I am sure you knew that Armenians are the majority in the region because of your knowledge of Georgia, but you still removed it. Right after my message you did not take away the fact that your changes were biased and not neutral and you continued to make those changes on other maps, that is not "good faith". I hope that Magog the Ogre sees how much you are vandalizing maps by changing them to your own biased opinion. --Gyumrilak (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
In File:Blank map of Europe.svg disputed regions were added in 2015 but map was created without disputes in 2007. To show with disputed areas we should make another map and provide in a title Blank map of Europe (with disputed regions).svg and that is all it not a vandalism it is just the way what policy tells you.--g. balaxaZe 22:57, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
The borders were different in 2007. Some of the disputed regions, specifically Kosovo and Northern Cyprus were added back in 2011, so now you are just not telling the truth. The other disputed regions were just added on later. You removed them because of your clear biased opinion on the unrecognize states in Georgia. --Gyumrilak (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Okay, it is better because all day I am explaining to you but you do not want to listen, to make NPOV map personal knowledge is not enough one should provide reliable source as well.--g. balaxaZe 23:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh, please understand that overwintering is not an option, I am not against (can't be) to create separate maps with disputed ares.--g. balaxaZe 23:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
You are not even consistent with what you claim to be doing because many of the maps that you changed do not even match the original upload. What you mainly did was remove or change disputed regions because of your biased opinion withuot any discussion. I am not going to continue arguing with you about this, I think everything is very clear especially looking at the reasons you were blocked for before and all your other contributions. I will now wait for Magog the Ogre's answer. --Gyumrilak (talk) 23:12, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
So wait and do not blame other user, originally I've intended to revert willful edits and policy violation of blocked User:WhyHellWhy sockpuppet User:Leftcry's edits. And when you say "not consistent with what you claim" provide facts and links.--g. balaxaZe 23:17, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Not all of the maps you changed were even edited by those two users. I already said which files those are, they are now all maps of european countries and some other maps that I have provided links for in the original message. --Gyumrilak (talk) 23:24, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Ooh, yes as I said it was intended to revert willful edits of that blocked user but you see for every file explanation that there was also text and per COM:OVERWRITE some file from the same topic had overwrites and I reverted them. And please let's wait Magog because if you wanted to listen my explanations you could do it easy on my talk page. Also I see it very suspicious that you appeared after 7 days from my edit in File:Europe religion map en.png and just after of my reverts of that sockpuppet's edits. --g. balaxaZe 23:39, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
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