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Sanity check for photos uploadedEdit

Hi I have uploaded some photos from Indian Army Website and attached the Indian Army attribution to them. Can you please verify if this is okay? The files are File:Surinder_Singh_GOC.jpg,File:Devraj_Anbu_GOC.jpg, File:PM Hariz GOC.jpg, File:BS Negi GOC.jpg and File:DR Soni GOC.jpg. In the past there has been a difference in opinion by various editors on Indian Army images. If you think these violate Wikimedia policy, then I can self nominate them for deletion. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 12:35, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

@Adamgerber80: the community decided this source is not free according to Wikimedia standards: Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2017-01#File:Devraj Anbu NC.jpg. From my reading of the situation, the Indian Army says that images cannot be used in a derogatory way; all armed forces are notoriously thin skinned so we believe that they are not truly free. Imagine, for example, a Pakistani journalist using the image in an article about anything opposing the Armed Forces. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:11, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
I understand that concern. But other images have been allowed from the Indian Army website and are currently available on Wikimedia. So the rule is no new images to be uploaded henceforth? Would a permission similar the one for Indian Navy help here? Thanks Adamgerber80 (talk) 00:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
@Jameslwoodward, LX: y'all were the primary voices standing against Indian Army pictures. Would one of you mind providing your opinion on this? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:51, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
My comments at the UnDR cited above pretty well cover it. The Indian Army license would preclude a journalistic use identifying the subject as corrupt. It also probably precludes even simple cropping. I agree, as I said at the UnDR, that we have images on Commons that have the Indian Army license. They should be deleted. "Other stuff exists" is never a reason to keep an image here. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:10, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
I'd second that. LX (talk, contribs) 11:04, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. I will self nominate the images I have uploaded for deletion. Adamgerber80 (talk) 22:08, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

permeations of File:Loogo of Arab Times.jpgEdit

I've permeation to upload all Arab Times and Osama Fawzi articles from the owner himself and I've attached the permeation with all files File:Loogo of Arab Times.jpg so please have look .--Rama.Bsha (talk) 20:27, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

@Rama.Bsha: thanks for your contributions. Could you please follow the instructions on your talk page for sending permission to the correct email address? You can read example emails at Commons:Email templates (en) / Commons:Messages type (fr). Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:02, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Unblock requestEdit

There is an unblock request for a user you blocked, at User talk:Visionjohnny. Guanaco (talk) 01:03, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Video pokerEdit

I'm curious. How did you find out that the deleted page File:Bartop video poker machine (Vegas).jpg ‎as well as the en:Wikipedia original en:File:Quadacesjacksorbetter.JPG (marked as transferable to Commons by a bot), was in fact "F9: Unambiguous copyright violation: Derivative work of non-free content". — I'd like to learn how to better identify bad uploads to save myself some time in the future. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 19:26, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I searched Google Image Result for the bartop video poker machine to see if I can find that Derivative work of non-free content by myself. I noticed that the en:wiki file had a very distinctive camera flash reflection on the second upper column of numbers, against the black background. I did not find anything like that anywhere else in Google Image. The uploader (if I remember correctly), mentioned that he took that picture himself to prove his own winning hand. I'm unable to figure this one out for now. Poeticbent talk 19:46, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

@Poeticbent: you can see the image here: [1]. The issue is that a photographer does not fully own the rights if it is a derivative of another work. In this case, the copyright for that computer screen has creative elements which belong to whoever created the poker machine. You can read more about derivative works in this link I provided for the deletion summary. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:46, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Out of the Corridor.jpgEdit

Hi Magog,

What do you think about the above image? I think it's not realistically useful for educational purpose. Wikicology (talk) 10:45, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

What, like this one, you mean? Pots. Kettles. You should probably find something better to do than this, Wikicology, it looks fairly petty and pointless to me pointing at this for that reason alone, unless you think this is some sort of copyvio because of the watermark. Apologies for the intrusion MTO, saw this on my watchlist. -- Begoon 11:18, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Begoon, I don't think I have ever disrespect you in my limited interaction with you. I saw the terrible things you recently wrote about me and the works I do here. Please, stop disparaging me! As for this one you linked above, I don't own you any explanation on the circumstances in which the image was uploaded and you are welcome to nominate it for deletion. Wikicology (talk) 13:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Ok. Have a nice day. -- Begoon 13:14, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Wikicology (talk) 13:42, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
I nominated it for deletion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:51, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Magog. Regards. Wikicology (talk)•

User uploading copy-right materialEdit

Hi, I have nominated some images from খাঁ শুভেন্দু for copy-right violations. These images are sourced from news websites but these websites clearly do not release them freely under any license. I wanted to let you know since you have blocked the user in the past for repeated violations. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 22:33, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Adamgerber80: thanks for the note. In the future, you can leave a request at COM:ANU. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:35, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Okay. I will do so. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 22:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
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