User talk:MichaelMaggs

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Hi MM,
As you seem to have an above average understanding of the appliance of law, I would like to run this by you first -for your comments. Back in 2008, User Lupo was trying to kid us that a EU 'directive' was a EU wide 'law' and thus we had to observe the EU 70 year copyright 'directive' on our UK images too.

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They were legitimate in the first place. Now that we are out of the EU (for better or worse) should not all these deleted UK images be reinstated?P.g.champion (talk) 23:12, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

We are still in the EU for now, and the copyright directive does indeed require the UK to maintain a period of 70 years pma. That may change in the future, perhaps, but there's no change at the moment. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 07:04, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I agree, there is plenty of time to contemplate this. Just wanted your early gut reaction though, (as a sounding-board if you like, in case I am being too pedantic). However, EU Directives don't require anything. The are just guidance to other EU states whom may want know how to achieve greater harmonisation and so ensure that all states sell only straight bananas, etc... They are not law. Which is what User Lupo seemed to have miss understood -yet made a lot of noise about it. We (in the UK) are not bound by this, as this Directive never got a far as being incorporated into UK copyright law. Many UK images got deleted which should not have been, due to this miss-understanding between Legal Obligation and Directive.--P.g.champion (talk) 19:39, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
EU Directives are instructions to member states to change their locals laws in a certain way. In this case, UK national law (the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988) was amended years ago to change the term to 70 years pma. 70 years has for a long time been part of UK national law, and that won't change once we leave the EU unless at some point in the future parliament expressly legislates to do so. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps I didn't phrase it well but here it is from the The British Press Photographers' Association:
Photographs taken before June 1 1957 receive similar treatment, so    duration is now life of  the author (or last surviving author) plus 70 years for a national of  a Member State of the European Economic Area or a photograph whose `country of origin' is in an EEA state, provided the work was in copyright in one member state on July 1 1995. http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://thebppa.com/wp-content/uploads/abcd_uk_copyright.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjunNmIqdPNAhUoBMAKHel3B0YQFggyMAQ&usg=AFQjCNGDOrEidAgQtMc-dzj_vcw2z0YwmQ
Thus, the UK was never party to this editor's interpretation of this guiding 'Directive' for all these UK photographs taken before 1945. The copyright was not extended for these as well (ie 70yrs plus 70yrs). So our parliament doesn't have to legislate anything new. It was the resent referendum that brought this argument of his, back to mind.--P.g.champion (talk) 23:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Update: Think I have found the source of the confusion. The editor was situated in Germany.
Some European territories such as Germany already protected photographs for the life of the photographer plus 70 years. If this new term of copyright protection were applied to the photograph, then copyright would not expire until 2010. This meant that although the photograph had been in the public domain since 1980, its copyright could be "revived". All photographs are afforded copyright protection under UK law, from the holiday snap to high art photography. 
He simply didn’t read the 'Directive' but assumed and insisted vehemently that Germany's laws now applied everywhere across the whole EU. As I thought you were a native English speaker I had hoped you would help me with this editors issues over what the 'Directive' actually said and help me roll-back the deletions. Germany’s law and any Brussels 'Directives' is not a EU wide law but simply a 'directive'. --P.g.champion (talk) 22:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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Hello how are you?, Im wondering if i can upload files form these sites here, and here and here?. Thank you and have nice day.--Jobas (talk) 16:01, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

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