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Pibot, wikidata, infoboxEdit

Hi,

your bot added an infobox to the monument category and marked it as located in Dresden. The monument was shown in Dresden and in Berlin. There are categories for the monument in Dresden and in Berlin. So the infobox should either be in the dresden monument category (and another infobox in the berlin monument category) or the infobox should say the mounument is located in Dresden and in Berlin. I don't know if this was caused by a bad bot code or by bad wikidata information? --C.Suthorn (talk) 11:48, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@C.Suthorn: It sounds like the info on Wikidata needs tweaking - either adding the additional location, or changing the sitelink and Commons category (P373) values to point to the correct category and moving the infobox there. I can help look into it if you want, just let me know the category. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
The categories here at commons? That would be:
Category:Monument by Manaf Halbouni
Category:Monument by Manaf Halbouni in Dresden
Category:Monument by Manaf Halbouni in Berlin
--C.Suthorn (talk) 17:46, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
Ah, it's one structure that's been in multiple locations? It sounds like the infobox is in the right place, then. I've tweaked the Wikidata entry to include both locations, along with start/end times for when they were valid (the latter doesn't show in the infobox yet, but will in the future). How does that look to you now? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:17, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
definitly better. Still the map shows only dresden and the headline mentions dresden only. --C.Suthorn (talk) 18:58, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
I've changed the description. Not much that can be done with the map at the moment, though - I haven't figured out how to show multiple coordinates in the map yet, plus I don't know the coordinates of it in Berlin. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:02, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
For the record: Berlin, Brandenburger Tor, Platz des 18. März, about 25 meters in front of Brandenburg gate (the Reichstag about 100 meters to the left, the Holocaust memorial 200 meters to the right, Barack Obama wanted to hold a speak at that very place while campaigning to become president and wasn't allowed, but actually spoke there at Kirchentag 2017, Ronald Reagan said at that place "Mr Gorbatchev open this wall"): 52.51627, 13.37727 --C.Suthorn (talk) 04:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
OK, I've added those coordinates to Wikidata and set them as the 'preferred rank' option, so the infobox should show those now. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:14, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Conflicts with DEFAULTSORTEdit

Hi Mike, seeing this bot edit i woundered if it really makes sense. I had at least two cases where such a DEFAULTSORT conflict lead me to errors in WD, such as [1]. In my oppinion, we should have a maintenance category for such conflicts. --Arnd (talk) 13:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@Aschroet: That edit also categorises them into Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with defaultsort suppressed for tracking - I figured it's better to do that then clutter up Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts too much. The ones I've looked at so far seem to be a mix of issues here (e.g., missing commas between the last and first name, or only using initials), differences in data (e.g., when a person has a well-known nickname), and issues on Wikidata. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:23, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
ok, then fine for me. Thanks, --Arnd (talk) 13:30, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
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