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Using Your CircuitEdit

Hello Dmitry G. Thought that you might like to know that I have added your cct. (circuit) "Spark_ignition.jpg" to article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_system

I have labelled it "Example of a basic Electronic Ignition System"

  • Is this correct?

It appears to be a type of CDI, Capacitor Discharge Ignition?

  • Is this correct?

Is this a published cct. so that I can 'verify'it?

Can you tell me a bit about it? ie.

  • The pre-existing text mentions thyristor switching, is VT1 a thyristor?
  • Looks like a (power) transitor to me. Text might have to be re-written to match cct.
  • Are R7 to 10 the spark plugs?
  • S1 is obviously the 'trigger, but is it a set of points/ Hall effect switch or 'what?

--220.101.28.25 05:14, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

You can check it in Multisim if you're not sure, it is working and it was my check work at university. These system can start the engine during a cold, mechanically timed ignition do it badly in such weather conditions.Dmitry G (talk) 21:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


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EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

When you add author info to someone else's photo...Edit

... do be careful to add the correct author info. At http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Box_of_squibs.jpg&diff=17297717&oldid=15851324 you attributed an image to someone who had nothing to do with it. He (or she) was not happy with this, and complained on the Village Pump. - Jmabel ! talk 23:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe I was tired, so couldn't put my attention into details and have put incorrect data :-) Dmitry G (talk) 14:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Or maybe something or somebody distrcted me during editing data and I've written that delirium Dmitry G (talk) 14:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

StockholmEdit

Very interesting pics of Stockholm. Photojournalism or how the city is for the people. Many thanks. It was very rainy during my short visit which was mainly in Uppsala which is not a typical place. I got some apartment, street and shop pics though but missed the taxis.Best regards from Ireland Robert aka Notafly (talk) 21:32, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. But as I see, journalists make only positive or negative description of something and give very little information, but I make photos of real things as they are in real life. I remember my 1st visit to Stockholm... it began from Arlanda airport very big 5th terminal and about 10 minutes to search place where is the "Belt 6" to get my bags and their strange way of Arlandaexpress ticket buying. That is why I prefer to make informative material as it possible.
* What I'd seen positive: inhabitans are friendly there and absolutely nobody watch your camera, mobile phone, gold and other to thief (maybe thanks to Stockholm's police);
* What I'd seen negative: very poor information for guests from other places and very high prices for food.
Also you can see my photos from Tallinn and Narva-Jõesuu on commons if you have no enough time to visit them or have no possibility.
Best regards from Tallinn and you're welcomed, Dmitry aka Dmitry G (talk) 14:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

ShipsEdit

Thanks for adding categories to the Tallink ships. I changed the categories to bring them in line with all other ships. When you add extra categories to the images, the images show up where the categories should show up. Glad to find people who see the importance of using IMO numbers. --Stunteltje (talk) 21:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

File:EU-EE-Tallinn-Kesklinn-Old town-Kiek in de Kök 071.JPGEdit

Hi Dmitry G,
images restricted to non-commercial use such as File:EU-EE-Tallinn-Kesklinn-Old town-Kiek in de Kök 071.JPG are not allowed on Commons. This is also in contradiction to your CC-BY-SA license. Either you remove this restriction or the image has to be deleted. --Túrelio (talk) 07:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Free images I realise to public domain, but these images weren't free and I've paid some money to take them, so I put to them Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license. Some people from Africa can't go to Tallinn and see it, so they can see it on wikipedia. But if they restricted to non-commercial use, you can remove that text Dmitry G (talk) 07:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
If you agree to the removal, you should do that by yourself (for legal reasons and) as you are the uploader. When you are doing that, you may at the same time remove my no-commercial-tag (I authorize you to do so). However, you should think if there are no foreign copyrights over these images. For example some artwork whose creator is not dead since >70 years. --Túrelio (talk) 07:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Metal halide power supply.JPGEdit

What is the source to this schematic? As far as I know, IR2153 is designed to drive field-effect transistors, not bipolar transistors. Which type of transistors should be used? Capacitor capacity labeling mkF should internationalized to µF. Thanks! --1-1111 (talk) 07:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

*1) As I remember, it was copied from HMI seachlight's manual (maybe italian "Pinguino" searchlight). I decided to draw it in sPlan, as I had bad-quality camera at those time and photo of manual wasn't understandable. talk
Do you think, this was a good choice to put that much work to a not really reliable source?--1-1111 (talk) 21:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It's not commons rules enforcement. Also, it purpose was to show way of working, but not coping that diagram for manufacturing new searchlight with the 1:1 same wiring diagram. Dmitry G (talk) 08:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
*2) They both have similiar way of working. If you put some low current to base or drain or gate, they will switch on main circuit. As I remember, there were bipolar transistors with big aluminium radiator. talk
R4 and R5 are dimensioned with only 25 ohms. This amount indicates field-effect transistors, which are common due to the data sheet. And even power-field-effect transistor are available since some decades. But they need higher voltages at their gates but current to reload die gate capacities only. Bipolar transistors therefore need a base current to operate. --1-1111 (talk) 21:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
There are R1, which U/R makes ~4mA (or 0.004A). R4 and R5 are consecutive to R1 only (and also to IR2153). But IR2153 have no power source inside it, current cames to IR2153 throught R1. I can't understand, why you put your attention to R4 and R5. If I need 1000Ω resistor, but have no it in store, I also can use 2x500Ω or 10x100Ω or 20x50Ω or even 10x80Ω + 2x100Ω. Resistance will leave the same, but quantity of resistors will increase. Here we have 100025Ω instead of 25Ω.
Also, there is writen, that we have pulsing signal at output in your datasheet and only example diagram with field-effect transistors. Due to characteristics, field-effect transistors are most suitable to IR2153.
But as you can see, there is no writen exact nomenclature, just "VT1" and "VT2" to show, that there are transistors without more detailed explanatory. Dmitry G (talk) 08:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
*3) I'd tried to do it lot of times, but sPlan doesn't want to accept Greek alphabet. Instead Greek letters, it put "???" marks Dmitry G (talk) 11:53, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
What about C1 and C2? A µ is shown there. --1-1111 (talk) 21:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
If you've done some edits in sPlan ver.6, you know, that it put "µ" to electrolytic capacitors as the default, but to other capacitors t put "n" as default. If you try to change "n" to "µ", there will appear "???" instead of "µ". That is why "µ" are changed to "mkF" Dmitry G (talk) 08:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, oh, oh... --1-1111 (talk) 14:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

What? Some capacitors are missing in the store, I can't birth them. Also, it is voluntary project, so you can correct drawings and upload new versions of it. Dmitry G (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Second, if you offence at my action and concentrate your attention to my insignificant trifles:
  • a) you have created Category:Insulating screw joints, but hadn't put anything to it;
  • b) you spielst gern mit Spannung, but do remarks for me, that someone can touch metal parts if I do experiments with ballast alone and from safe distance;
  • c) you write that I sell ballasts to someone without fixture (right after experiments from the test bed);
  • d) you think, that Croatia has 3-phase system and rank bridge between N and PE to improper European installations courageously (this way of thinking all car inverters DC12 -> AC230 are improper and danger goods). Thanks for attention. Waiting your сonscientious attitude to the things Dmitry G (talk) 14:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Category mistake?Edit

Hello, In this edit you added the Category:Mercury-vapor light bulbs. But the image is used in articles about sodium lights. Are you sure you added the right category? /Ö 11:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I've done mistake. Thank you for putting my attention to it! Dmitry G (talk) 11:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

RE:Vandalismo VirgenEdit

Hi Dmitry G. This is the link in Google Earth with the exact location of the place. Whatever, let me know. Sincerely, --Banfield - Amenazas aquí 18:18, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Dmitry G (talk) 11:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Action under voltageEdit

I work with electrical engineering since 1970, but for the first time in my life I see the guy confidently catching energized wires barehand. All of my 40...50 y.o. electricians are affraid stripped wires, but this young guy quickly copes with them. I couldn't say anythyng for some minutes seeing his confident action first time.

Why I need to afraid electrcity, if I hold wire's insulated area and push stripped area to the terminal by insulated pliers?????? Dmitry G (talk) 07:20, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

You haven't been at his home :LOL: It is electrical laboratory instead of living apartment :D

And what is wrong? Energy company says clear: "After electricity meter you can do everything you want at your own risk and at your own responsibility; if your installations will damage somebody's property or take other injuries you response at the court; but if your installations for your own purposes work properly there is no reasons to make complaints to you."
As for me, it is advantage to have possibility to check 80% of designed circuits in practice. If some inspector objects me, I say him: "OK, see it on the video how does it work".
The reason why energy company spits on consumer units - is the clearless written electric code. Politicians thiefed it from North-European countries and accepted the curve translation. As the politicians don't know anything in electricity, accepted by them electric code turned out very funny. Even long-expirienced companies follows those rules at their own discretion. By the way, USA have more paranoia laws and as the result enforced everywhere (reading American's NEC, there becomes inpression that American students spend 10 years to study what is the wire and 15 years to study how to screw terminal by screwdriver).
But why it is need to suffer by politician's americanisms and limit yourself in your career? Human should improve himself where it is possible. If it is not hazard, you're welcomed. So, energy companies limit access only where are hazards (like high voltage or where is not possibility to turn electricity off immediately). As for usual tower apartment, there are more time and possibilities to react on non-staff situations, that is why energy companies close their eyes on builders or other DIYers pornography. Also, nobody can check 100000 or more homes. Only earth resistance and RCDs, sometimes circuit brekers conformity to wire gauges. All works inside apartment or house is for consumer's conscience. Dmitry G (talk) 19:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

He is such person :=) In 2004 I had problems with refrigerators and all specialists said me they cannot repair without circuit diagrams. But my business partner from Estonia said «oh, don't worry, I know who can do it». It had invite him to Norway for some days, but I'm glad by quality despite he was too young boy those time.

Stein, aren't this you?
Yes, I remember. I was 15 or 16 and looked for work in some company to have training. All what they suggested me in Estonia was draging bags with building materials or clean garbage after the builders. But after two week your offer to go to work in Norway fell on my head. Your partner had said me, that it is interesting work, so I thought, it is light bulb replacing or something like this; but appeared really big refrigerators with really huge AC motors. After this it became more easy to find the work and work on my timetable, entrepreneurs begin to trust me. But as my parents and grandmother told me, it was more easy to find work during USSR times, so capitalism has also negative sides. Or maybe improper laws in young democratic republic untied hands to entrepreneurs.
But if something is wrong or need to repair, just call, I always can help. Glad to read you on my talk page, thanks for message Dmitry G (talk) 20:10, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Today I really wanted to complain, that I can't work without wiring diagrams, when one of my friend asked to help him with the old Soviet elevator in tower block. When I'd come to the motor room and opened door of the motor control centre, my eyes have gone out of orbits seeing such amount of relays and contactors. I counted there approximately 150 relays and 27 contactors. I havent seen such complex circuits before.
Construction of Soviet contactors from 1960's really "killed" me: for 50 Amps dimensions like vacuum cleaner, when contactor is switching it makes noise like the blacksmith beats by sledge hammer on anvil and it weights like 70 or 80 kilograms, so I couldn't lift it alone. When we had bought modern one for 63 Amps, it weighted less than 1 kilogram and had too small dimesions (only 4 modules instead of vacuum cleaner).
It is real puzzle to work in elevator company. When I asked him about dialy work, he has said that modern elevators are coped by small microcontrollers, it was the first old elevator in his practice. Oh, my brain has really exploded after "small helping to the friend". Dmitry G (talk) 19:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
The coolest elevators ever. Dark wooden cabin, weak 10W or 15W light bulb, broken buttons with sharp angles... Unforgettable impressions while travelling by this vechile... Push any floor button, doors are closed, the light goes off, is the noise of gun shot somewhere on the top, the light illuminates again and cabin begin to move with sound operating a circular saw. Russians knew how to make elevators.
Well, in 1960's they were constructed to servicing time 20 to 25 years. But they still servicing nowadays being 40 years old with fully worn-out equipment as nobody have money to replace them (sometimes it cost ~300000 EUR, but public services have no such money at all, especially during crisis). As I see, some foreigns from Europe like to ride them. You can also see videos with those fear rooms:

But the problems begin from imperfection of technics in 1960's till 1980's, cause relays working loudly, voltage droped from 220V to 180V in whole house during motor starting moment and nowadays vandals made their contributions. So, those vechiles still joy city's inhabitans Dmitry G (talk) 20:51, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

85.17.162.100, if you want to know statistics: 85% of estonian elevators exhausted themself and can't be recovered due to bad technical status, ~1500 were banned by inspectors due to worned out or improperly worked safety systems; >10000 of such moving coffins still operate in old tower blocks and nobody had repaired them since USSR fail due to unliftable heavy price. As result, <20 elevators fall and 5 or 6 persons getting injuries annually. Dmitry G (talk) 18:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Primary world level category system is by countryEdit

Hi. It should be noted that the primary world level category system is by country where all the country category trees are to be found. The reason is that many countries have territories on up to 6 continents, so a continetal category tree beteen the world and country level makes no sense. All by continent categories are parallel categories to the by country categories. --Foroa (talk) 14:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Some categories have salad, so it is better to separate countries to continents Dmitry G (talk) 15:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
As you can see in Category:Categories by country (flat list), there are more than 4000 categories by country without an intermediate continent subcategory level. We are not going to change some of them nor the 150000 involved categories. we need one consistent category system. Please stop that restructuring. --Foroa (talk) 15:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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Andy Dingley (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

It is photo and corners of the paper are clearly seen Dmitry G (talk) 13:18, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

national electrical safety boardsEdit

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I am amazed at young man who put them to talk the truth (-: Best regards! 62.109.11.180 20:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

There is one more article about defective home appliences in mass-media, which was written after strong pressure to them from my side. But as I see, west-European people like, when some governmental organisation is cheating them. Guess, what always happening, when some west-European machinery company taking for use improper applince with beautiful exterior. And those safety boards as usual name any absurd reasons of accidents instead of malfunction inside home appliences. Dmitry G (talk) 07:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Tournesol.pngEdit

I like your work... 150.250.101.64 23:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you much! Dmitry G (talk) 08:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Electrical safety drawingsEdit

Hi- I have started redrawing the [File:How_to_help.jpg] as a vector image and wondered if there should be just one image or four or seven? It might take some time but I hope to complete the work sometime. /Gregor

Hi! Thank you for working on image! Four images combined into one.Dmitry G (talk) 09:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Who is the author of the photo File:Olli-Markus_Taivainen,_2009.jpgEdit

Дмитрий, по поводу вашего ответа. Я не могу понять, что означает «Õigused: avalik Attribution». И по поводу «nobody will upload copyrighted photos into public accessibility; even if photo has some copyrights, it's uploaded with watermarks or into hidden folders», вы же понимаете, что это не может быть аргументом. Поймите правильно, мне самому хотелось бы использовать некоторые фотографии из работ Piret Ahman, но просто так загружать их под cc-by только потому, что «никто бы не стал загружать несвободные фото в публичный доступ» не выход. Рано или поздно их удалят с викисклада, как нарушающие лицензию. Самый верный способ это выйти с автором фото на контакт и попросить разрешение на использование. Процедура подробно описана на OTRS/ru.

Спасибо --Dnikitin (talk) 22:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Я уже как-то связывался с авторами фото подобных альбомов по поводу разрешения загружать их на википедию... И что? Мне им по часу приходится объяснять, что такое лицензия, и что, оказывается, их фото может быть использовано на основании их разрешения. Не весь народ ведь в штатах живёт, большинство "хозяев" этих фото вообще не в курсе относительно авторских прав и я потом сам себя дураком чувствую за то, что спрашивал у них разрешение на использование их фото. Dmitry G (talk) 09:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

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File:Farola donostia 001.JPG HEdit

The photo was taken in Donostia-San Sebastian (Basque Country). Thank you for your interest and your work. Joxemai (talk) 07:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Dmitry G (talk) 11:47, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Essay like descriptionsEdit

Please don't add essay-like descriptions to file (eg this) and category pages (eg this). Your personal opinion that unfortunately is more or less biased and has unsourced statements in it, is not needed. Just tell shortly what's on the picture or what the category consists of and if longer explanaion is needed, a link to corresponding Wikipedia article should do. 88.196.241.249 07:51, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh, thank you for remark. But descriptions or clarifications shouldn't be interpreted as essay or personal opinion. Sometimes description should be little longer, cause some people (especially who is writing articles) may understand improperly. Guess, what I've found last year on French wikipedia? One author wrote, that Lasnamäe is the city near Tallinn, and such statement had lasted there too long time. Imagine persons from Vietnam or Brasil or some other contry, who is writing article, but knows nothing about situation here. Dmitry G (talk) 11:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, a description should be clear enough to be understood properly.
But unless you are citing reputable sources and not dealing with plain facts, these descriptions are essay-like. That doesn't help understanding the subject properly (in an unbiased way), rather it is vice versa. I found another extreme example. It may be fine on your user page but should be kept away from image and category pages as these are strictly connected to Wikipedia content. 88.196.241.249 11:52, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, your words are true. Usually I use short description. But some files require more longer description. I can't find any reputable sources on political topics due to strict war in mass-media and other web-sources between countries. Speaking about extreme example, I can't use any sources at all due to senseless war of histories between two countries. On some topics, persons from other countries can really know nothing cause of information lack in reputable sources.
Essay-like descriptions I'm using on my user page and galleries, where I write my opinion in a free form. Dmitry G (talk) 19:40, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

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Pieter Kuiper (talk) 12:19, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

RCBOsEdit

Hi Dmitry, as you work as an electrician, sorry if a'm guessing wrong, i'm wondering how often do you install RCBOs in your area? Devices like this one. I'm asking, because RCBOs are very uncommon here in Austria - We use here mostly dedicated RCDs in the main distribution with seperated circuit breakers. Is this also true for your area in Estonia?--Wdwd (talk) 16:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Electrical code regulates, that all sockets (since 2008) and electrical equipment in wet rooms (since 2005 or 2006) in new installations must have protection against leakage up to 30mA. There is no limitations how you're gonna to protect - by RCBO or RCD. In America you have no choice (only GFCI and nothing other); but you can choice between RCD and RCBO in Europe. As experience showing, RCBO better going for appliences, where electricity missing is critical like refrigerators or servers. Also, RCD + circuit breaker will take more place in fuse box than RCBO. You have purpose to protect against 30mA leakage, but the way is not significant.
Better to think about economical advatages between RCDs and RCBOs. RCD costs 21 EUR + circuit breaker 2.25 EUR and RCBO costs 23.15 EUR:
  • RCD + 5 circuit breakers will cost 32-33 EUR
  • 5 RCBOs will cost 116 EUR
  • 5 RCDs + 5 circuit breakers will cost 116.25 EUR
But imagine situation, when you spend your time at job till evening but RCD has disenergized all 5 circuits while you worked, where was also refrigerator. Some hours without electricity and the food will be spoiled. Better to say, that existing of RCD and RCBO is freedom of engineering. Dmitry G (talk) 22:24, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

About Image:EEUU(GE)BreakerpanelInnards.jpgEdit

The main cutoff is the black box to the right of the neutral busbar. Also, all the wires on the right side (odd) are black. The camera flash on the thin plastic coating gives them the white color. 76.117.247.55 06:27, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Yes, main switch is seen only when you strain your vision. Dmitry G (talk) 06:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Next time I have that panel open, I will take a better photograph that shows those things more clearly and doesn't distort colors. 76.117.247.55 03:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh, it will be good idea. Dmitry G (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Tournesol.png I enjoy your pages on old Soviet wiring and Estonia. 76.117.247.55 03:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! Many people from the "west" can't understand, how it might work, cause it doesn't look like beautiful :) It is result of fast building in extremely poor economical conditions :) But what belongs to Soviet-era buildings, they have the most tough walls I've seen ever, even expensive drill bits blunting fast (imagine noise and dust during drilling hole for socket or light switch)... where is lack of "cheap fast" building - flatness of rooms, nobody of builders grinded their work. Commonly saying, high-tech construction Dmitry G (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Note: little mistakeEdit

Hallo Dmitry G, a little mistake by you corrected at File:Fluchtwegbeschilderung_als_Scheibenleuchte,_Inotec,_LED,_rechts.jpg by me. Just to let you know it. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 03:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

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Nice fotos with LEDsEdit

Trophy.png Nice fotos with LEDs
Hi, could we discuss your experience in LED implementation for Tallin?

With respect, Alexei Sindiukov, Belarus Moromer (talk) 06:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for your comment!
It's only experiment of municipal government and only one LED-lamp was produced in Estonia, others have been imported from Asia. Seems, this experiment will develop to nowhere, cause the main purpose was to present money from city's budget to friends and relatives of centre party from electrical companies. Those lamps were installed in 2010 for 1 year in Pelguranna street and then must appear in all Tallinn, but nowadays we can see that city's government forgot about LED experiments 2 years later.
I don't think, that near 20-30 years there will appear something serious in Estonia, cause estonian society is taking care about other excrements, which seriously brakes any development in the country. If we can talk about serious LED implementation - it's only private mansions and commercial buildings, where owners have final purpose to use LEDs and get some advantages. But again - there is no such big economical demand for building new houses during economical crisis, especially in poor Estonia (~80% of my customers are persons, who are earning money by illegal ways; mere mortals ordering only cheap simple works). I've no global experience of LED implementation - I can only tell about small territories of private property, like buildings or gardens near mansions. Dmitry G (talk) 10:40, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

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Well, original file had been removed from russian wikipedia, even google doesn't keep it in cache... it's difficult to fix this problem, delete if something wrong. Dmitry G (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Category titlesEdit

Following up the concerns on essay-like descriptions, I've tagged three categories created by you for discussion: [1], [2], [3]. Again, please try keeping statements reflecting your personal opinion (e.g "policy of money terror") at least off the content pages (file pages, categories) and don't fill edit summaries with random political statements like here. 88.196.241.249 17:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for remark! Well, the reason of protests was economical problems, such as "high taxes" an "low income", so I'd named category according to reason of this protests. Or should I name those categories: "idiots don't know what they want?" I've named as I found the most suitable name, you can rename if you see more suitable name. I really don't see problems with editing, cause you may edit here even without registration. If you want to see wikipedia without negative descriptions or negative texts in descriptions, you should press wikipedia's administrators to prohibit write any articles about politics to avoid any critics - but it will be censorship like in North Korea. You can find more than 10000 articles in wikipedia about governments of different countries in the world and of course all of them did some wrong actions, which have brought into conflict situations later. I hadn't wrote, that someone is idiot - I wrote only statement of a fact "poeple weren't satisfied by this conditions of life and protested agaist it". So please don't make cult of idolatry from artificially created stuff. Government or border between countries were created artificially by human without intrusion of nature. Dmitry G (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Category titles in question are just inaccurate or misleading and that's why I suggested simpler ones. Other than that is's about the neutral point of view and that Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, not that texts are negative. 88.196.241.249 19:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Misleading? I was the first person, who had created this category, so while creating I've found this name more suitable, cause people came to protest against poor economical situation. If you want to discuss why I've found this name of category and description correct, I can say that officialy Estonia has the most beautiful data in Europe, but authorities considering only positive rates and ignoring negative. Description "money terror" is coming from this fact, that exchequer of Estonia focused a tight number of people and those people want to save their preferred positions in society. Dmitry G (talk) 13:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't matter how you justify your opinion, it's still your opinion and as said Wikipedia is not a publisher of original (and biased) thought. 88.196.241.249 16:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, of course 1+1=2 is my own biased opinion :) and our Earth is flat, and sun is moving above the Earth :) Or should I write "dumbs without reasons met near parliament"? Or maybe taking or uploading such photos is forbidden? I really can't find my own opinion in name of categories, only ascertaining of facts:
*a) people had come to protest (what you can see on photos)
*b) protests were aimed at economical problems (cause population can't buy expensive products from Europe having such small salaries)
I really can't find more suitable names for those categories. Also, even Estonian law doesn't ban writing any critics against politicians, who're getting quite big salaries from taxes. Soviet Union, where saying "wrong" things about country were prosecuted by the law failed 21 years ago. Today we're living in uncensored Europe and 50%...80% of wikipedia's articles contain section "critics" or whole article about criticism. Dmitry G (talk) 20:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
This isn't the case unless you really believe that "police outrage" in this context and "policy of money terror" are neutral expressions. By the way, at the category pages / CfD page I've tried to explain in detail why the titles are misleading or inaccurate. 88.196.241.249 21:09, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I also doupt if it's justifed to consistently move license tags away from separate section. As upload forms have been built in way that license tag is put in a separate section, this way seems to be generally preferred. Also usually it makes a page less compact if a hugh license box is placed inside a table cell and side-cell is also big but mainly empty due to that. Not that it's wrong to place license tag inside a permission cell of the table for your own images, but this cell is more likely there to hold other permission related information, e.g an OTRS tag or further details on attribution. 88.196.241.249 17:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

For editing (20-30-50 files at once), it is more handy, than waste time for using mouse wheel. Dmitry G (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean? There barely is a difference in page height or as for usual big license boxes (other than PD-self) and not the biggest screen resolution, license tag put into a table cell clearly stretches it out more than in a separate full-width section. I see no consesnus for wide-spread changes in original layout. 88.196.241.249 08:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I mean, license-box in "permission" takes less lines, than independent section. It's more easier, than scrolling page by mouse wheel. Or you're using some other browser, than me and those changes are differently seen in different browsers. Dmitry G (talk) 13:45, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

File:USSR current reactors from 1980's.JPGEdit

Hi Dmitry, I'm wondering about the function of these two reactors. Is this a special typ of filter for power line communication signals like this one or a current limiting choke to the limit the short circuit current on the overhead power line like this one? The third phase don't have a coil, so it looks like for me as a filter for low frequency communication signals (signals for load managment applications, for example to switch remotly the street lights on or off). Do you have any additional information about this picture?--Wdwd (talk) 15:43, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello! As I remember, those gadgets are hanging there since 1989 or 1990, but Soviet Union hadn't used the PLC. Probably, visiting some west country, Soviet developers thiefed some drawings of inventing PLC and applied it as current reactors (and live example is automatic fuses: they used technology, which appeared in European circuit breakers 10 years later). As I know, for operating high-voltage switches, our energy companies use optical cables. But of course all of today modernization is limited by coping present technologies (despite increase in tariffs is explained by capital investment), so retail companies might use them as low-frequency communication.
Why third phase is missing - I've uploaded here too much photos with technical lacks of those time production. Soviet authorities have developed industrialization much more hardly than China today (look photos of Tallinn before Soviet Union and after - few wooden buildings versus thousands of concrete boxes), so quality were controlled only at important objects and many times minimal requirements have been underestimated. Dmitry G (talk) 20:06, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry, I was tired after work :) It is corrected now. Dmitry G (talk) 06:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi! Where had you learned electrical engineering so good? Many people of your age can't find the job in technical disciplines.88.196.11.64 16:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello!
a) Job + discussion boards (related to professional occupation) in internet.
b) Well, it is not surprise for me, that many people are sitting without work after graduating :) I'm really sorry, that I've spent 5 years of my life for studing at university. One and only benefit of graduating is piece of toilet paper with name "diploma". Level of knowledges is lower than apprentice despite of loud name "academic degree". There are spinning big money in education with zero payoff. Even unpaid Wikipedia can give much more knowledges, than expensive universities and colleges. Better to spent this time for something more useful. Dmitry G (talk) 09:30, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
But why do they bring big money for useless waste of time? Nobody protest against it, education is associated with "high status" and "successful future".88.196.11.197 09:26, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Those people have serious problems with self-image - they're feeling themself imperfect without diploma. As I remember clearly, 90% came to quasy-study cause their parents promised to present car/apartment/etc, so knowledges have the lowest importance for them.
See the difference - despite university took lot of money, all of my vocational skills have been acquired at job or internet. So, it is not surprise, that Europe (don't know about other countries) is full of unemployment among 16-24 y.o. people. Dmitry G (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Bad story. Why those educational programmes have accreditation? 90.190.58.191 08:19, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Those programmes are accredited by usual people (politicians), but mistakes are inherent to human. I also can do mistakes when I'm tired or nervous or have other problems.
Structurally they consist of 60% waste and 40% outdated material, so after studing you should learn outside of educational institution, which will take additional time, but the day is limited by 24 hours and human resources are also limited. I have earned neurasthenia at age 25 with such rhythm of life.
I can give you some example: I have explained Kirchhoff's_circuit_laws using few minutes, but university stretches the same material for 5 months. Of course, many useful material is not covered there, so final knowledges are very poor for employment. As result, having academic degree many young people are suffering at low-paid jobs, where education is not required. Dmitry G (talk) 11:12, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

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Универ дает только базовые знания, и наличие диплома никто не отменял. Остальныое уже на работе по мере карьерного роста. 195.50.206.63 09:10, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Какие нафиг базовые знания? Просто более углублённое изучение математики без осознания к чему эта математика относится... Вобщем продолжение 12 класса школы, не более того. Крайне бестолково приходить в ТТУ просто потому что по окончании выдадут диплом, а сами знания получать в google или на работе.
Я вот сейчас помню: кабель под землёй укладывать не учили, щиты собирать не учили, наконечники опрессовывать не учили, стены штробить не учили, замерять контур заземления не учили, даже грамотного составления проектов не было (так, квартира побаловаться). Просто запарили мозг кучей интегралов и на этом всё, ничего толкового так и не увидел. Dmitry G (talk) 14:00, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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Help pleaseEdit

Hi ! My soviet machines are failing to work with RCD. All cables are okay. I don't want to buy modern garbage cause of short lifetime. Thank you for consultation and interesting contribution! 83.176.2.44 10:33, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi!
Those appliences use ground wire as neutral, so you have problem cause ground wire is carrying currents of neutral wire. To treat this problem, you should replace existing power cable with 4 wires to modern power cable with 5 wires and use related power connectors with 5 pins (3 phases + neutral + ground). When new power cable is installed, you should shift connection to all neutrals in your machines from body to neutral wire through related busbar.
In other words, blue wire is missing in Soviet-era appliences, so relays and control lamps are using yellow-green wire as neutral, that is why RCD trips. You should separate ground from neutral and pass neutral wire through "N" terminals on RCD; ground wire should execute only protective mission.
Look one more time to your fuse box: three hot wires comes to main switch and one ground wire to big copper busbar (if you have old panel). Turn main switch off before work and connect N contact of RCD with ground busbar by blue wire of suitable gauge. RCD should be powered by brown, black, grey and blue wires (load wires); the same wires should depart from RCD to sockets or appliences. Yellow-green (ground) wire must go directly without any switching devices (permanently). If you have new panel, there should be independent N and PE busbars, so you have to add blue wire.
RCD in TN-C.JPG
I hope, my my explanations helped you Dmitry G (talk) 15:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, helped. You are so young, but hard-headed specialist. 212.119.142.238 09:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I also recommend to use Soviet-build appliences with upgraded innards. Modern ones from west able to work only 5-7 years and then they fall apart. Dmitry G (talk) 12:59, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Дмитрий, наткнулся на вашу схему Filament_Protection.jpg. Схема удачная, при минимуме деталей делает то что нужно. Как я понимаю, симистор будет открываться на все больший промежуток времени и в конце зарядки С1 будет открываться на весь полупериод? Есть ли необходимость в 5Вт стабилитроне или его можно заменить на более дешевый и доступный 0.5-1Вт? Спасибо!

Там около 6 Вт нужно рассеивать, так что на стабилитронах неразумно экономить. Я думаю, в чип-дипе или ещё какой-то свалке должно быть что-то совдепское в стальном корпусе.
Принцип работы несколько другой: тиристор пропускает ток только в одну сторону - то есть срезает нижнюю часть синусоиды; ну и к тому же из-за постоянной времени зарядки конденсатора С1 нить накала лампочки получает не эффективное значение, а ток через нить накала увеличивается по нарастающей. Dmitry G (talk) 20:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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Привет, это я Максим с фотоконкурса. Мой телефон 58244441.

Координаты понял? В 9:45 пустырь на месте снесённой художественной академии напротив голой бабы на Гонсиори, там будет ждать Виталик на серой хонде. Если быть точнее, то N59.43500 E24.75855; по поводу дополнительных пассажиров ничего не говорили, но ещё 1 человека втиснуть можно, а вот третий будет уже перегрузом.
Ладно, завтра пятница 13-е, так что не проспи в субботу :)

Ну если не в ТТУ, то куда поступать? В Тарту или за границу?

С моего класса 2 дебила пошли учиться в Тарту, так они ещё умудрились и магистратуру там закончить. Боюсь, в Эстонии нет ничего стоящего, лучше за границу валить. Хотя в Германии ничуть не лучше - бюргеров учат так, что они даже схемы читать не умеют. По ходу настоящие ВУЗы остались только в России, да и то парочка, куда хрен попадёшь из-за громадного конкурса.

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Здравствуйте, два из ваших фотографий были предложены для сборки. В результате, мы надеемся, вам будет удобно. С уважением. François de Dijon (talk) 23:25, 15 September 2014 (UTC)(машинный перевод)

Bonjour, deux de vos photographies étaient proposées pour être assemblées. Voici le résultat, en espérant que cela vous conviendra. Cordialement.François de Dijon (talk) 23:25, 15 September 2014 (UTC) (traduction par ordinateur)

File:Väike-Õismäe pond panorama.jpg

Thank you! Dmitry G (talk) 14:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Looking for helpEdit

Hello Dmitry G!!!: My name is Ivan Robaina, I am a 20 years old Cuban wikipedian (Usuario: Nayesda). I am currently working on a university project about Estonian history and politics and I´ve collaborated (mainly in translations) in several articles about Estonia on the Spanish Wikipedia. The reason why I am writing to you is because, after reading your user page I´ve got surprised about your opinions regarding politics and reality of Estonia. I think what you say contradicts everything I´ve read or heard about your country and my own vision of it. As I am deeply interested in your country I would be very glad if we could contact each other and you could help me to make clear some doubts about Estonia. Since I have very low internet connectivity and I cannot connect to Wikipedia for a long time, I would be glad if you could write directly to my email (nayeda.daria@medired.scu.sld.cu). Your help would be very welcomed. On the other hand, I loved the pictures you took and I would like to see more. Waiting for your answer, Ivan

Hello!
Well, it is typical CIA-controlled country like Jamaica or Panama. Today politics is aimed for 2 purposes: NATO-belt around Russia and destructive politics to European Union through pro-american president like in other Baltic states (Latvia and Lithuania). Mass-media is also stricly monitored by political organizations and any negative article or statement about Bretton-Woods monetary system will cause getting into the blacklist of KAPO. More details about mass-media in EU-countries you can read in article Udo Ulfkotte (that is why I'm writing here openly instead of email). For suppliyng policy of NATO-belt around Russia, authorities are regularly bullying population by threat from east to justify high concentration of American soldiers in Estonia and very high price for their living in Estonia. This fact is very difficult ignore cause politics of Estonia are directly or indirectly meddle in all spheres of life today.

Which is interesting in Estonia - is culture and history. As Estonia all of time was enclosed, it's strictly affected to culture: Estonian culture saved distinctive feature despite of all enemies - song festival were performed even during USSR times (noone of other USSR countries had such celebration). And of course enclosed condition formed Estonia to very quiet country: all of talked to me tourists and other guests matched Estonia with village - life here is going forward without "mad racing". You'll never see here over-active life like in China or Germany.

Economically Estonia is strictly depending on tourists and migrant employment. Official propaganda claims, that Estonia is strong IT-country with world's greatest computer industry, which of cause are making lot of laugh. Only small number of population are feeling themself economically sure in tomorrow day but politicians use bullying to save their popularity and pro-american privileges in government. Economy strictly suffered after 1991, when Germany and France rid from their rivals in former ex-USSR countries through deindustrialization (many Soviet factories were closed in Estonia after USSR fail), but official propaganda still think up "Wall Street" and "Great Britain"-style economical theories even today (~40% citizens of Estonia believe to this baloney about economicsis, even economical faculties are teaching this applesauce), which are blaming socialist past and USSR in economic troubles. Of course noone of Estonian newspapers or TV-channels says about USA national debt 17x10⁷$ or unprofitability of European households (today lot of European families, especially in Spain and Italy, spent for their life 20% more than they earn... but nobody says about this fact in news).
I think, I've explained important questions about Estonia. Dmitry G (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

I've forgot to mention next things:
1) During scandal with Edward Snowden, Swedish TV had broadcasted this news from morning till night; but Estonian mass-media has mentioned it only in few short articles and next week president said, that Estonian government accepts United States as leader in the world.
2) In 2014 summer State Department published information, that Russia is shoting through Ukrainian board and confirmed this information by 100px screenshots from PC-games... and Estonian politicians agreed with those proofs.
3) Estonian mass-media hadn't published any information about Udo Ulfkotte in 2014 autumn.
4) Socialists said, that NATO is important partner of Estonia... it's head Sven Mikser saturated country till explosive value by american soldiers, when got to defence ministry.
5) Estonian authorities still support Ukraine even after Leonid Roytman disclosed all past activities of current Ukrainian politians.
Believe to internet and other mass-media fewer. They print only "required" information, especially for strictly politically correct west countries. Is anybody writing, that both Europe and America are living today like USSR in 1989-1990? Is anybody worrying about oncoming downfall of European Union next year? Is anybody worrying about full economical collapse in United States during 2016? I have found this information nowhere, despite it's lack will not cancel events. Dmitry G (talk) 23:50, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Dmitry, I'm not going to argue any of those interesting opinions above, but as you seem to be quite comfortable with the concept of propaganda(s), then have you also ever considered a chance that you youself might be slightly affected by the Russian propaganda? :) 193.40.10.180 14:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Seems, you have visited quasy-liberal countries very rare or hadn't lived there :)
For first, Russia has no reasons to make any propaganda; for second, mass-media in Europe and America can't explain many facts (good example is 9/11 in New York and Pentagon, which caused many conspiracy theories inside America by suffered persons and witnesses) or doesn't publish inconvenient facts. You can visit Bulgaria or Romania, look their low quality of life by your own eyes and then compare seen situation with European propaganda, which is describing those countries as paradise for investors.
But thank you for your messages! Dmitry G (talk) 13:17, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
In addition, I recommend you to watch Sahra Wagenknecht appearances (they are also available in English) and then answer to simple question: who is telling propaganda?
As I can understand, CIA communicates next message: "Countries, which are agree to play the casino with America, have small income to support life inside them. Disagreed countries will strictly regret about their wrong decision". Estonia is good example of this message - it signed in during 1990's and small towns have 40 taxi companies and shopping malls on every corner (is this attribute of successful country?). Heavy industry is totally missing in Estonia, but Nokia and Samsung quickly rised after closing VEF in Latvia (you can check this fact in google - without propaganda).
Oh, I'am forgot - money debt of this casino has transshipped 18000000000000$ today, but it's GDP is smaller than debt. There is two ways for this casino: inflation (but hateful Russia with it's propaganda will go to world's leader) or fail after Obama's last day in office which is outlined to 2016. Dmitry G (talk) 18:41, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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