User talk:Fenn-O-maniC/Archive 3

old colonial coat of arms for the city of Kitwe in Northern Rhodesia modern day Zambia

Hello! I notice you made the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland coat of arms a couple years back. You did an amazing job on it and was wondering if you would consider doing the old coat of arms for Kitwe, a lot of it is the same:

https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Kitwe

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	I simply could not hold back my absolute love for your contributions to heraldry! This barnstar is said to be given to those "who contribute an especially large body of work without sacrificing quality", and I fully believe that you live up to that. VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 21:24, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you kindly! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 04:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		Just to say thank you for your many awesome civic coats of arms. Sodacan (talk) 12:09, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for creating many of the elements! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 14:50, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

File:Okahandja COA.svg

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Chtrede (talk) 05:43, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Question on the Finnish coat of arms (monarchy version).

Hello Fenn-I-maniC,

This might be a weird question, since I'm asking about an upload you did way back in 2012, but out of curiosity - where'd you get File:Coat of Arms of Kingdom of Finland (1918-1919).svg from? Is there a source for that you can add to the image description page? I can tell it's just the normal Finnish Coat of Arms with a crown on top, but is there a source on where this came from, if it was ever actually used, etc.? (This came up because I was recently editing the English article on the topic and was curious where this came from, since it seems like the plan for a Finnish monarchy didn't actually get very far...) SnowFire (talk) 00:55, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

It's essentially just the Finnish coat of arms with a typical royal eight-arched crown on top. During the early years of independence the grand princely crown with just six arches continued to be used for some time. Given the hectic times and the short period the plan to establish a kingdom had a proper support I'm not entirely sure if there ever was legimitate moves to officially change the coat of arms to have an eight-arched royal crown so the one I made years ago is more like a hypothetical representation of such. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 05:02, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

File:Zone économique exclusive de l'Union européenne4.png

Hello.

Can you remove the United Kingdom and add South Sudan in File:Zone économique exclusive de l'Union européenne4.png?

I am adding the border of South Sudan and remove the UK from maps. Unfortuntely I cannot do this with SVG files and sophisticated (for me) PNG files.

Yours sincerely, Maphobbyist (talk) 09:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Done! Let me know if you need help with anything else. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Maphobbyist (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Would you do a couple of flags?

Hello! It's-a me again. I have found two flags of Finnish cities of which Commons has photos, but no vectorizations. And who better to ask than you? As such, I present these flags:

• Hamina (alternative photo)
• Oulu

As a heraldry nerd, it pleases me greatly to see heraldically correct banners of arms being used, and I wish that more places would use them. But whether or not you accept this request, just know that your work is invaluable, whatever you choose to do. Yours truly, VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 12:23, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Sure thing! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 13:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much! ...Maybe I'm cheeky here, but I wanted to find even more city flags. I read somebody's report of Kokkola using a banner of arms, and sure enough, I found it after some searching. Here is an image on Commons, and because it's always good to have multiple sources, here two flags can be seen outside the city hall.

BTW, just as a fun side note, I also found the flag of Pietarsaari/Jakobstad, but then I noticed that you already had done it. Well, aren't you fast? Anyway, loving your work as always. I shall make sure to add your beautiful images to articles that would benefit from them. Regards, VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 17:11, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Good find, I'll add Kokkola to the worklist as well. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 18:13, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Flags of Loviisa and Vantaa

I seem to not be giving you any room to breath at all, really sorry for that. After this one, I'll make sure to let you catch your breath.
While I personally am biased in favour of heraldically correct banners of arms, I can't blame any editor uploading and objectively describing various forms of de facto flags (even if I think that Loviisa's "flag" rather feels like an unheraldic decorative banner.) With that said, since you did upload it recently, I have one thing to add. From some images that I found (1, 2, 3, 4), the bottom bars seem to be wavy rather than straight.
While I'm writing, I might as well share some info regarding the flag of Vantaa. I found many images online of the heraldic design in pennant form. But I also found this page describing the "flag of the city of Vantaa". Unfortunately, the image only shows a flag obscured by itself, due to the lack of wind. But from the little detail that can be interpreted from the smaller middle flag, it looks like it very well could be a square banner of arms, separate from the more well-documented pennant. Would you consider uploading it? Thanks for everything, and sorry for not giving you any rest. —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Good catch! I'll make Vantaa's one tomorrow, I found another picture and it's indeed a banner of arms. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 19:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Vantaa's done now. Also I think it's good to keep in mind that most of these flags are seldom used and often are seen as just flag versions of the official coats of arms. I believe it's better to use the coats of arms as symbols for the municipalities when only one of the two can be used in wikipedia articles for example. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 05:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, I agree with that the arms are the primary symbols of municipalities, and that this form of heraldic flag is essentially just another form of displaying the arms. But I still think that these files are very important, because lots of people use Wikipedia, and I hope that people around the world may see these beautiful flags, and be educated about things such as banners of arms, and quality heraldic design. If they are seldom used, I think that it's even more important that they are shown, so that people who visit Wikipedia maybe will see what their municipality's flag is supposed to look like.

I don't know if this is the case in Finland, but in Sweden, the official position of the government is that the proper design for municipal flags is a banner of arms. Just like in Finland, they are still essentially seen as just the arms in another form. My home municipality uses its one daily, as does the neighboring municipality of Stockholm. But respect for, or even knowledge of proper practice is not universal, and many places use improper arms-on-bedsheets or logos-on-bedsheets instead. I will of course keep what you have said in mind, but your files are of high value nonetheless. Anyway, might have gotten sidetracked there. Take care. —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 07:36, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

A request for help with a heraldry file

Hi Fenn, I'm a fan of your heraldic work. I recently rehauled a file of mine, File:Julie Payette full heraldic achievement.svg, and, as you can see, I used slightly modified assets for lions as the supporters. Unfortunately there are no lynx SVG files available that match with the Sodacan-esque style of the file. I have very little experience with creating assets, so I was wondering if I could request you to help by trying to make appropriate lynx supporters? It would be greatly appreciated! I also attempted to make a suitable astronaut helmet for the file, but I'm not sure if it is good enough; you can try to remake it if you choose, but I don't know if it's necessary. Thank you very much, Di (they-them) (talk) 22:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do with them! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 06:01, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you much! Di (they-them) (talk) 17:49, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

More municipal flags

My message had simply become ridiculous, so I'm deleting it and presenting a tidier list:

• Västanfjärd: 1, 2 (last image of the article), 3
• Föglö: 4, 5, 6
• Vårdö: 7
• Heinola: 8
• Hyvinkää: 9 (second image of the article), 10
• Kaarina (1955–2008): 11
• Laitila: 12
• Jokioinen: 13, 14, 15 16 (first, fourth, and last image of the page)
• This one is interesting. It seems to be the flag of Pyhäranta. But it stands out as it seems to not be a simple banner of arms, but rather a specially designed flag, combining the charge from the arms with the addition of a golden wavy side. Whoever came up with it probably has heraldic and/or vexillographical taste: 17, 18
• Rusko: 19
• Rovaniemi: 20
• Lieksa: 21
• Raisio: 22, 23, 24
• Pyhäjoki. This is the first one that I have found through a PDF rather than a photograph. Page 12 shows both a heraldically improper "arms-on-bedsheet", as well as a proper banner of arms: 25
• Lapua: 26

VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:05, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I'll try to make some of them whenever I got the time, I'm bit tied up with a map project on the Finnish wikipedia at the moment. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 15:26, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

File:Windhoek COA.svg

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Chtrede (talk) 15:17, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Mikkeli vaakuna 1922.jpg

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Better source image for the flag of Vantaa

This is not a request, I just wanted to share a photograph that much more clearly shows the flag of Vantaa, that we previously had based on less than ideal sources. —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 14:14, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Arms of William Russell, Lord Mayor of London

Dear Fenn-O-maniC

I have seen your impressive contributions to civic heraldry.

Unusually in modern times, my friend Lord Mayor Russell is to serve two years as Lord Mayor of London until 2021.

In English heraldry a serving head of a corporate body* may impale its arms with those of his family, thus William's shield is City of London (dexter) impaling Russell (sinister):

Much obliged if you could be so kind as to create an image of Lord Mayor Russell's coat of arms for Wiki use whilst he is still in office?

Best, 85.255.235.19 02:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

• eg. Lord Crewe, Bishop of Durham

Here you go! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 04:04, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Fenn-O-maniC: many thanks & I've added a couple of categories too, which I trust are helpful. Best, 85.255.234.3 09:09, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Locator maps of Finland´s provinces

Hi. As you probably know, 1.1.2021 have chanded boudaries between finish provinces. Some municipalities have changed their affiliation to the province. I don´t have skills in vector grafic, so I wish to ask you to creates map with actual borders.

Perhaps - to produce 19 new files (one for each province) similar to, for example, "File: Etelä-Savo.sijainti.suomi.2010.svg", but with a change in the name of the new file "... 2021.svg". Could you please do that? Other files that should be repaired are "File: Finland location map.svg" "File: Finland physical map.svg". You created the current status yourself, for example, in the file "File: Regions of Finland labeled SE.svg".

Thanks in advance, --Unpocoloco (talk) 10:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I've already done locator map for each of the regions, all can be found in Category:SVG locator maps of regions of Finland (location map scheme). I did away with the year specification in the file name as it was always a hassle to update the files in the various Wikis the files were used in. Now the files themselves can be updated without the need for cross-wiki file changes. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 15:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi again. I see now. Great, thanks. I didn´t see it behore. Anyway, can you fix the pictures File:Finland adm location map.svg, File:Finland location map.svg, File:Finland physical map.svg and File:Finland rel location map.png please? There are very often used in tempate LocMap in many wikis. --Unpocoloco (talk) 17:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Sure thing! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 21:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Hattula map with border transfers

Hi. You have recently created detailed maps about the former municipalities of Hämeenlinna area, thanks for the great work! I wonder if you could make similar maps about Hattula by utilising the existing material?

As far as I know, the border changes of Hattula include the following.

• 1967 - Northern part of Vanaja joined to Hattula; an area in Parolannummi, close to Hämeenlinna centre joined from Hattula to Hämeenlinna
• 1971 - Tyrväntö joined to Hattula
• 1978 - Northern part of Tyrväntö joined from Hattula to Valkeakoski
• 2009 - Southern part of Hattula joined to Hämeenlinna.

Regards, --Gwafton (talk) 11:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm bit busy with other things at the moment but I can look into it once I have the time, shouldn't be too much work to do. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 10:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, good work! --Gwafton (talk) 07:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 08:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Improvement of CoA images

User:Samhanin regularly uploads vector images of CoAs, but he does not have such elaborate skills like you. Would you have the interest in improving some of his images (of national COAs, which are more widely used)?--Antemister (talk) 22:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Dear Antemister, never matter what you think of my vector graphics work, It's your mind. But don't link me by another user's page. It's very rude to me. --Samhanin (talk) 00:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything wrong with Samhanin's files --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 07:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not have any intention to insult anyone and I thought nothing about mentioning/linking the name (did you get pinged?)! Just saw had a look onto your uploads after I saw you inserted the Mengjiang emblem that I had been looking for for years. Then I thought that it would be great some of them could get those sophisticated shadings some of the graphists here. There is nothing "wrong" with them, they just don't have these shadings many CoA images have.--Antemister (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Royal House of Roumania Project

Hello. I have greatly enjoyed his work over the years. I wanted to ask you if you could vectorially render the collar of the Order of Ferdinand I of the Kingdom of Romania for a graphic project on the Royal House of Romania that I am setting up. Thanks in advance. You can find an image of the order here: https://veryimportantlot.com/en/lot/view/rumanien-orden-ferdinand-i-kollane-174998 Medal: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/morton-and-eden-ltd/catalogue-id-srmort10014/lot-1cf526c5-957e-4f27-b25c-a4a4010cb8fb

Done --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Amazing and impressive work, really. Thanks.

New Ideas, for Romania.

Excuse me if I still disturb you but if possible, when you get the chance, could you create a version in .svg also for the Bene Merenti Royal Order? https://www.medals.org.uk/romania/kingdom-romania/kingdom-romania041.htm

Romanian interesting medals are also the Order for Cultural Merit. https://www.emedals.com/europe/romania-socialist/order-for-cultural-merit-first-class-gold-eu2037

Romanian Order of Victory https://www.emedals.com/europe/romania-socialist/orders/other/a-romanian-order-of-victory-socialist-republic-eu7049

Scientific Merit https://gmic.co.uk/topic/50801-romanian-rsr-period-order-of-scientific-merit-iii-class/

Thank you in advance for what you can and will do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menkmax2 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Have to see if I have time for these later on as I'm currently working on another project of mine. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 09:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok.

This One is really a masterwork.

File:Arms of Blaenau Gwent County Borough Council.svg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menkmax2 (talk • contribs) 09:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

On the national arms of Finland

Hello again! I noticed that you a couple of months ago left a message on this talk page, where you wrote that you had made a new vectorization of the national arms of Finland based on a better source. You did however add that "The file would need to be unprotected for any updates". I just wanted to check by to tell you that the file indeed seems to be unprotected since some time now. Yours truly, VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 18:10, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 07:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Wow, that looks absolutely spectacular! I noticed that you mentioned that you had also made a version without black outlines, would you be willing to upload it as a separate file? Thanks :) VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 08:09, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Here's the outlineless one. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 08:30, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Request to fix the faulty vectorization of the arms of Congo

Hello Fenn-O-maniC! Thank you for your work on improving Wikipedia vectorizations of heraldry and other emblems. Your recent re-work of the emblem of Djibouti is top tier.

Some time ago I've noticed the image of the arms of Congo does not match the blazon. I've checked a few sources and they seem to differ not only in the tusks color, but also have slight differences in the depiction style. I ask you to improve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Republic_of_the_Congo.svg if you have the opportunity because I know you will do it justice.

Here are a few references I have gathered:

Website of the Presidency: https://presidence.cg/

Hubert Vries's website: http://www.hubert-herald.nl/CongoBrazza.htm

Blazon and my translation: https://sourcedblazons.fandom.com/wiki/Congo

Dughorm (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Seems like a cool project to do. I'll look into it once I have the time! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 06:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Not even 24 hours have passed and the vectorization has been updated. Great work. Thank you for all your contributions! — Dughorm (talk) 15:41, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Glad to help! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 16:37, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Burkina Faso

Hello again! I have been looking for color reference for the arms of Burkina Faso and accidentally found what is likely to be the original emblazonment, or at least one of the few. As you have been making lots of great contributions to African heraldry vectorizations lately, I decided to bring this to your attention. The emblazonment can be found here: link, as well as in this official document. For comparison, the passport emblazonment seems to be identical, including the shield frame and book shape, the sole difference being, not counting presence of the larger shield, the lack of coloration on the passport: link 1 and link 2. Thank you again for your contributions. — Dughorm (talk) 15:20, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the resources! I've been planning to redraw the BF arms as well so this is very helpful! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Best there could have been! It may be bad heraldry, but the vector art is top tier. Many thanks! — Dughorm (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

My pleasure! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 04:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Royal Standards of Lesotho

Could you please update Royal Standards of Lesotho like you updated coat of arms of Lesotho?

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ColorfulSmoke (talk) 09:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Done! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 09:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

SVG

Hi @Fenn-O-maniC: , i saw your great work making svg image, could you help me please?

Could you make Proper SVG for

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convert to SVG if you can

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Many Thanks --Siirski (talk) 19:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 06:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Siirski: Do you happen to have any source images for me? I can't seem to find any from online. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 15:51, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fenn-O-maniC: Sorry, no, I have no sources Siirski (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I could do a little touch-up on the current files but without any proper sources it would need to be guess-work. Have to keep an eye open if any photos or scans surface eventually. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 16:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, if fount i will contact with you Siirski (talk) 16:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Fenn-O-maniC: ,

Could you make Proper SVG for Immigration and make svg image for Police

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Thank you a lot --Siirski (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Here is there sources Somaliland Police Force Website Somaliland Immigration

Kiitos paljon ja anteeksi jos pyysin sinulta paljon. Siirski (talk) 17:41, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the sources! I'll look into the files once I have more spare time. --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 06:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hei @Fenn-O-maniC: , I don’t know what to say THANK YOU FOR GREAT WORK 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽Kiitän. Siirski (talk) 16:49, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

My pleasure! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 16:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

National emblem of Somaliland

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  Emblem of Somaliland (Original by Abdullahi Abdi Omar (Jawaan))
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  Emblem of Somaliland

Article(s): en:National emblem of Somaliland

Hi @Fenn-O-maniC: , Please could you fix this emblem there is some mistake of svg emblem image. Abdullah Abdi Omar (Joan), who introduced the national emblem for Somaliland in 1996. He said that this emblem is wrong.

could you fix:

Eagle of Saladin

Scales in heraldry

Many Thanks. --Siirski (talk) 09:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I saw Thank you for great work 🙏🏽 Siirski (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Happy to help! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fenn-O-maniC: could make background yellow is look like orange. Siirski (talk) 16:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Help, please.

can I ask your help to vectorize this medal? I have already made the ribbon. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Ordinul_Bene_Merenti_cl_2.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhaden VI (talk • contribs) 13:41, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	Your vectorization of the New York state seal/"arms" is absolutely phenomenal! Excellent work. Bongo4561 (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)