User talk:Nabak/Archive 2

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dear Nabak,
Can you please adapt your signature, as your square picture in front of your name is taking to much line spaces atm. Thx Ricodol74 (talk) 05:13, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ricodol74,

Not a problem! Just tell me what to do and where! --Nabak (talk) 19:16, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

About categories

Please consider always COM:OVERCAT, when creating categories or modifying existing ones. Please never create categories which are subs of themselves. Please use appropriate sortkeys "Museums in Russia by city|Sochi" and not "Museums in Russia by city|Museums in Russia by city" or so. Please don't modify anything on Commons categories until you got familiar with Help:Categories. --A.Savin 23:31, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Alexander, thank you for you advice and corrections, that's how collaboration works! . By the way, "domestic church" sounds just awful, that is why I have merged it with the existing category "Russian Orthodox churches in Russia", but this not a big deal. I have a more important question regarding category sortkeys, so, what you are saying, it would be incorrect to place a parent and a child categories together divided by a pipe as such, "paren|child", to order the priority of sorting?--Nabak (talk) 00:34, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I cannot understand your last question. But maybe Help:Categories would help. --A.Savin 00:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Please do not manipulate discussions. We started here; so if you have sth. to reply than do it here. --A.Savin 01:30, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

You have cut off my last reply while starting a revert war, please don't manipulate the discussion yourself! I find your behavior unhelpful and rude for this usually very friendly place. By the way, what in hell "if you have sth" does mean? I read it as "if you have shit", is it correct? That's just crazy! May I please kindly remind you that all are equal here, in the wikiland, and those with authority should show an example of modesty and civility, but what I am wasting my time on, your are obviously not a good sport! --Nabak (talk) 01:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I wrote "if you have something to reply, you should do it here" [and not on my talk page or elsewhere], so you don't need to scream and insult me and you only need to answer if you *have* an answer on the topic. Your chaos with categories is not appreciated, but I've already stated it. EOD --A.Savin 09:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I see that the likes of you are very good at crying foul, but how about, "you scream" and "chaos", aren't these the insults that you're looking for! Why do you see the speck that is in somebody's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? It seems that in addition to double standards you also have a burn-out...how about taking a wiki vacation from this often chaotic and turbulent place? (I really doubt that anyone will even notice your absence.) And you yourself should do the things you advise other people to do, talk business instead of going around, and bossing and insulting other people. --Nabak (talk) 03:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Vera (talk) 15:20, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice try the devil! {{Seth Tisue}}{{Cc-by-sa-2.0}}--Nabak (talk) 21:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Nabak,

The 2013 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to announce the results: We shattered participation records this year — more people voted in Picture of the Year 2013 than ever before. In both rounds, 4070 different people voted for their favorite images. Additionally, there were more image candidates (featured pictures) in the contest than ever before (962 images total).

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Category:Human experimentation claims

Hello, thank you for creating Category:Human experimentation claims to cover a subject area. However, I am concerned with the categorization that resulted for a couple reasons: First is that the title of the category gives no indication that you intended it to specifically cover claims of human experimentation within the CIA, as there have been many organizations which have had such claims (and some which have had such programs). Second is that you added Category:MKULTRA to this category despite this program having been declassified and an admitted human experimentation program for decades now rather than a claim. I did not check the other categories you subcategorized though. (talk) 12:11, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Dear djr13, thank you for your message. I agree with you that Human experimentation claims is not the best possible option, but the subject is touchy, since we definitely don't want Robert Eatinger to sue our *****s and I was having hard time while thinking out something suitable! Do you have any particular suggestions? We can use your categorization expertise here, as always, CIA is a mess! ;) Best, --Nabak (talk) 17:00, 14 April 2014 (UTC) P.S. By the way, do you have any suggestions for audio files such as File:Truth and Justice Radio (WZBC) - 2011-09-19 CIA complicity in the global drug trade - 04 Scott response 1.vorb.oga?

Having looked for any equivalent category on Wikipedia (can be quite helpful in constructing similar structures for media here) I think making it into a broad category would be best until that starts getting hundreds of images. Thus it might reflect w:Category:Human subject research. CIA-related human experimentation subjects then would be categorized both this and the CIA category. I'm not aware of any precedent covering "claims of" topics; the only exception I could quickly find is Category:Claimed territories of Antarctica.

For Robert Eatinger, I'd say if Wikipedia has well-cited statements of fact that he was involved in human experimentation, we can simply put him into a category as such to reflect this. Otherwise it would probably indeed be considered defamation, whether or not he could or would sue for it.

For the talk show recording, I'm not sure what you're asking. It seems to be named well enough I think, and it's consistent with the rest of the recordings in Category:Truth and Justice Radio. If you're asking what categories that recording should be in, I would assume the categories it has are fitting. djr13 (talk) 23:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Frankly speaking, I don't like the idea of giving people no choice other than punching category «Central Intelligence Agency» every time they upload something related, I would rather treat it as a meta space. And right now we are very close to that! :) I am not ready to voice anything definite about CIA experimentation right now since I did not go through the literature and related court cases if any, but you have dropped a lead that can be useful — «CIA related human experimentation», it is a good name, if we forgo the hyphen!:) Regarding audio files, how about something like this: «CIA related broadcasts»? Regards, --Nabak (talk) 02:37, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Category:CIA related human experimentation might be good, although I would still also create a more generic parent category for it such as Category:Human subject research. Wikipedia just puts all the programs that happened in connection to the US under w:Category:Human subject research in the United States. Personally I would avoid getting too narrow with categories until you have categories with dozens or hundreds of files to split. djr13 (talk) 03:24, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

So let it be written, so let it be done... :)) I'll leave the audio files in meta space and will get back to you with human experimentation when I'll be ready, as they told me in school, team work rules! Yours, --Nabak (talk) 03:42, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

All related materials were a fascinating read, which gave me an idea that apart from the CIA some scientists, if unchecked, can go berserk in a quest to uncover the scientific truth! :)) OK, going back to our category business, how about: «CIA programs in human experimentation» with parental categories «Human subject research in the United States» that needs to be created and already existing «Central Intelligence Agency»? --Nabak (talk) 01:36, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow response. Yes, those look good. Although, instead of Category:Human subject research in the United States I think Category:Human subject research would be preferable until there is a lot of per-country content worth splitting out. djr13 (talk) 04:16, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Sold! --Nabak (talk) 05:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

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YouTube pics

Can u tell me in which minute u found this pic? Cause I coudn't find it in the video.--Sanandros (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

At 14:44/24:21! And thank you for a great idea: from now I'll start timing them. Best, --Nabak (talk) 18:36, 9 November 2014 (UTC)