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File:Grosser_nordischer_krieg.jpg edit

 
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S. Bollmann (talk) 00:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Flight 1549 map edit

Just wanted to make sure you saw my comments at File talk:US Airways Flight 1549.png... ;-) Carl Lindberg (talk) 21:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I answered at the map's discussion. --S. Bollmann (talk) 22:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Hello. Perhaps you could edit the map to show where New Jersey is. New Jersey is the entire land mass to the west (left) of the Hudson River where the plane crashed. Thank you. --Zimbabweed (talk) 22:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Ok, done. --S. Bollmann (talk) 00:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Some US and many international readers might not have known exactly where the state boundaries were. --Zimbabweed (talk) 02:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Would you be willing to share the original media (Illustrator file, or whatever it was created in) so that an SVG version and future edits could be accomodated by other users? 23:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

An English SVG of this picture is existing.
Regards S. Bollmann (not logged in) --77.189.248.23 09:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Is it permitted to use the map for my thesis? It is on flight risks. Thanks J. Mickel Germany

Sure, you can use this map for your purposes.
Regards S. Bollmann (not logged in) --77.189.248.23 09:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Deutscher Orden edit

Schöne Karten hast du da geliefert, S. Bollmann. Trotzdem möchte ich dem möglicherweise von Putzger übernommenen Vorurteil entgegentreten, wir Deutschen hätten in manchen Gegenden Europas ein Monopol auf historische Namen. Mein Beleg überschneidet sich nur knapp mit der von dir dargestellten Region. Ich will auch nicht behaupten, wo Herr Münster einen nicht-deutschen Namen eingetragen hat, sei der deutsche damals unüblich gewesen.
Quelle: *Sebastian Münster, Basel 1489-1552: POLONIA ET VNGARIA XX – NOVA TABVLA: viele historische Namen; nicht eingezeichnet sind die Grenzen zwischen Polen (Posen im Westen ist abgeschnitten), Ungarn und dem Heiligen Römischen Reich)
Gruß Ulamm (talk) 16:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Great Northern War edit

Hello. I have seen your superb maps about Great Northern War and I would like a Spanish version of them. Could you help me, please?

File:Grosser Nordischer Krieg Phase1.png edit

 

In Spanish: Gran Guerra del Norte Fase 1

Upper box
German Spanish
Bundnisse und Personalunionen Alianzas y uniones personales
Dä-Kgr. Dänemark Di-Reino de Dinamarca
HG-Hzm. Holstein-Gottdorp HG-Ducado de Holstein Gottorp
No-Kgr. Norwegen No-Reino de Noruega
Os-Osmanisches Reich Ot-Imperio Otomano
Po-Kgr. Polen-Litauen Po-Reino de Polonia-Lituania
Ru-Russisches Reich Ru-Imperio Ruso
Sa-Kfsm. Sachsen Sa-Electorado de Sajonia
Sw-Kgr. Schweden Su-Reino de Suecia
Lower box
German Spanish
Großer Nordischer Krieg (1700-1721) Gran Guerra del Norte (1700-1721)
Von Riga (1700) bis zur Schlacht von Poltawa (1709) De Riga (1700) a la batalla de Poltava (1709)
Staatsgebiete Estados
Kgr. Schweden Reino de Suecia
Kgr. Dänemark Reino de Dinamarca
Kgr. Polen-Litauen Reino de Polonia-Lituania
Russisches Reich Imperio Ruso
Kfsm. Sachsen Electorado de Sajonia
Osmanisches Reich Imperio Otomano
Ksfm. Hannover Electorado de Hanóver
Kgr. Preußen Reino de Prusia
Alliierte Aliados
Dänemark Dinamarca
Sachsen Sajonia
Russland Rusia
Schweden Suecia
Schweden Suecia
wichtiger Ort ciudad importante
Belagerung (mit Jahreszahl) asedio (año)
im Kriegsverlauf zerstörter Ort localidad arrasada
Vertragsort (mit Jahreszahl) tratado (año)
schwedischer Sieg (mit Datum) victoria sueca (fecha)
schwedische Niederlage (mit Datum) derrota sueca (fecha)
Geografic nouns (only those ones to be traslated)
German Spanish
Archangelsk Arjángelsk
Azow Azov
Azowsches Meer Mar de Azov
Baktschisarai Bajchisarái
Baturyn Baturin
Berlin Berlín
Bottnischer Meerbusen Golfo de Botnia
Breslau Breslavia
Charkov Járkov
Danzig Gdansk
Dresden Dresde
Düna Daugava
Elbing Elbląg
Erastfer Errastfer
Finnischer Meerbusen Golfo de Finlandia
Gluchow Glujóv
Golowtschin Hołowczyn
Göteborg Gotemburgo
Grodno Goradnia
Hamburg Hamburgo
Hannover Hanóver
Istanbul Estambul
Kalisch Kalisz
Kiew Kiev
Klissow Kliszów
Kopenhagen Copenhague
Krakaw Cracovia
Ladogasee Lago Ladoga
Lemberg Lviv
Lesnaja Lesnaya
Moskau Moscú
Nowaja Ladoga Novaya Ladoga
Nowgorod Nóvgorod
Ochakow Ochakiv
Ostsee Mar Báltico
Perevoloschina Perevolochna
Petersburg San Petersburgo
Polotzk Polotsk
Poltawa Poltava
Posen Poznań
Pskow Pskov
Pultusk Pułtusk
Rakowitz Rakowiec
Rewal Reval
Sandomir Sandomierz
Schlüsselburg (Nöteborg) Shlisselburg (Nöteborg)
Schwarzes Meer Mar Negro
Stockholm Estocolmo
Thorn Toruń
Twer Tver
Vyborg Víborg
Warschau Varsovia
Weisses Meer Mar Blanco
Wilna Vilna

Regards. --Fernan (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Reply























Hi Fernan, I will do this during the next weeks. S.Bollmann (not logged in)--77.189.248.23 08:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)Reply


Hello, I thought you were inactive both at wikipedia and commons. Thanks a lot, these maps are fundamental in order to understand the war. Your contribution is invaluable. Regards.--Fernan (talk) 21:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

PS: If there are a problem with the Spanish toponyms, I will tell you. Thank you.

Svg perhaps? edit

Hello. I noticed that you created this map, and this one too perhaps you have *.svg file of it, as I want to make it in different languages as well. M.K. (talk) 16:03, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I don't have any *.svg files of this maps. I create my maps in Photoshop. If you want a version in a special language, please post here a full transcript of the map text and very gladly I build the maps in your desired language. (Like the example above in Spanish.) -- S. Bollmann (talk) 17:39, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
At the beginning I would love to see that map in English language. Would you have any problem creating one? M.K. (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)P.S. Are you drawing images on *.PSD format?Reply
Ok, now I have made English versions of both maps. And yes, I use *.psd files, but they are not for publishing. -- S. Bollmann (talk) 13:26, 9 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Very nice work! BTW, could you rename Vilna to Vilnius and add Kaunas to map Part 2 1709–1721, as done in Part 1? Thanks, M.K. (talk) 13:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ok, done. -- S. Bollmann (talk) 23:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

English map: Monastic state of the Teutonic Order edit

Hi, could you please translate this File:Deutscher Orden 1410.png into English? It's a great map! Renata3 (talk) 01:17, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ok, I will do this in the course of June. --S. Bollmann (talk) 00:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Hello Renata3, I have finished the requested maps in their first versions.
Please let me know, if you have any suggestions or corrections of my translation. --S. Bollmann (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Wow! Thank you very much - they will be very useful. Some comments for 1260:

  • Title -> The state of the Teutonic Order in 1260
  • Teutonic Order till -> Teutonic territory in
  • Masowia -> Masovia
  • Russian Principalities -> Ruthenian Principalities
  • Naming with historic place names -> Historical geographic names presented first
  • (actual place names in parenthesis) -> (modern geographic names in parenthesis)
  • Clerical area in Livonia and town march of Riga -> Bishoprics and city of Riga in Livonia (maybe also move up the description before "Polish principalities" so not to give illusion that it was one of the Polish places)
  • Vistula -> should somehow bring "Wisla" closer to "Vistula" to show that it is an alternative name (as done with other rivers)
  • Neman river should lose "river" (no other river has it)
  • Location of Battle of Saule -> while not known exactly, it is usually placed near Siauliai in Lithuania which is south and west from where you have it. See this for example: File:Medieval Livonia 1260.svg

I will look at the other two maps tomorrow (possibly). I have to run now. BTW, maybe you could upload blank maps (so that other languages can translate them how they wish -- adding text to a picture is not that hard -- people would not need to bug you every time). Renata3 (talk) 01:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

All done - except the battle of Saule, because the layers of political areas and battle signs ar merged together in the map file and I cannot move the battle signs anymore without drawing it new and etch the old. But I think, it's not so tragically, because the battle is located somewhere in an area between present Šiauliai and present Vecsaule near Bauska. So I think, the battle sign is approximately in the middle between this two locations and I hope everybody can live with the actual placing.
Most of your improvements affects the other maps too, I tried to correct all three maps. --S. Bollmann (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
It's ok regarding the battle. Its location is not known either way :) Renata3 (talk) 01:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Excellent job. I applaud you for using 2 names in the cases where there are several historical names to chose from. Few comments on possible fixes: 1) w:Insterburg - en wiki renders the alt name as Chernyakhovsk (with Ch, not T). At that point it was not under Russian control, so a Polish name should be used either instead or in addition (Wystruć). 2) w:Hrodna - consider adding Lithuanian (Gardinas) and Polish (Grodno) names 3) Vilnius - consider adding Polish Wilno 4) w:Pregola on en wiki uses the spelling Pregolya. All of those are however minor, and if you chose not to heed them up, it's fine (and if you do, you may also want to add alt Polish-Lithuanian names to a few other places like Neman); I fully understand that too many names will clutter the map so it's your call. Anyway - good job, and if you ever need to call on a Polish editor with some map questions, I am happy to help. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Chernyakhovsk and Pregolya done. Concerning Polish or Lithuanian names... what about a Polish and a Lithuanian version of the three maps? I need only the translated map texts. --S. Bollmann (talk) 00:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Replies to Piotrus comments: 1) Parenthetical name is modern (i.e. today's name), which is appropriately in Russian. 2&3) Polish names for Vilnius or Hrodna are inappropriate for periods before 1500s. Renata3 (talk) 01:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Re: 2&3) - you are probably right, but are Lithuanian better? Should we be using Ruthenian per w:Grand_Duchy_of_Lithuania#Chancellery_languages?? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for a quick response! I have been overwhelmed with real life stuff, so only now I have few moments to look into the other to maps.

Comments on 1410 map:

  • "13. Jh." box for Grand Duchy of Lithuania -> 1230s
  • Castle of the Teutonic Order (selection) -> Castle of the Teutonic Order (consistent with other maps)
  • Domicile of... -> Seat of...
  • ...a Country Master -> ...the Land Master
  • Personal union Poland-Lithuania since 1386 -> Personal union of Poland-Lithuania since 1386
  • Pskow -> Pskov
  • Ruth. Princ. -> I know I made the comment on 1260 map, but it was very appropriate there. But now, in 1410, I think most appropriate name for that location would be en:Pskov Republic or even en:Grand Duchy of Moskow
  • Samogitia 1388-1410 -> 1398-1411 (from en:Treaty of Salynas to en:Peace of Thorn (1411). See also en:Samogitian uprisings)

Comments on 1466 map:

  • Some of the same comments as above
  • Would strongly suggest making a separate blue-colored box for Prince Bishopric of Warmia in the legend as it's impossible (without prior knowledge) to figure out what the acronym stands for
  • That's it! :)

Again, thank you very much. Your work is much appreciated. Renata3 (talk) 01:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

BTW, for the first map, could you add blueish box in the legend to indicate that it represents Prussian tribes not yet conquered by the Knights? (it took me that long to figure out why the color was different - and I am familiar with the topic!) Renata3 (talk) 01:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ok, but some Questions:
This issue:
  • Castle of the Teutonic Order (selection) -> Castle of the Teutonic Order (consistent with other maps)
Selection means, the map is showing only a small part of the complete amount of the castles of the Order. To show all castles would dapple the map with a bulk of castle symbols. The term "consistent with other maps" means something other than selection. Maybe "extract" is a better word instead of "selection"?
This issue:
  • ...a Country Master -> ...the Land Master
In en:Teutonic_Knights#Landmeister is "Landmeister" translated with "Country Master". Is this incorrect or a descriptive translation only? But "Land Master" is not used in the article.
And last question:
In German the abbreviations for titels like Bistum = Bm. (Bishopric)) or Erzbistum = Ebm. (Archbishopric) and so on are very common in historical maps and specialist literature. How is it in English literature? In German a Fbm. for Fürstbistum (Prince-Bishopric) is well-understood by all readers. Are there similar abbreviations in English and how is the correct abbreviation for Prince-Bishopric? Pr.-Bsp. is advised by me.
A description in the legend would be an exception, because in all maps no state is described by his color in the legend. Legend colors are for territories and territory wins and losses only. But I can explain the acronym in the legend like "Pr.-Bsp. = Prince-Bishopric". --S. Bollmann (talk) 13:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Addendum:
  • Ruth. Princ. -> I know I made the comment on 1260 map, but it was very appropriate there. But now, in 1410, I think most appropriate name for that location would be en:Pskov Republic or even en:Grand Duchy of Moskow
The green territory not only shows the Pskov Republic but also parts of the Novgorod Republic. --S. Bollmann (talk) 17:07, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
1) Re castles. Well, the other two maps showed the same castles and only had description "Castle of the Teutonic Order". It's kinda implied that not all castles or towns or rivers are shown - only the major ones. So I think leaving simply "Castle of the Teutonic Order" is fine. If you would still like to explicitly indicate that it shows only some castles, proper English wording would be "Selected castles of the Teutonic Order" or "Major castles of the Teutonic Order"
2) "Land master" is a better translation. Google test: "country master" + teutonic gives 3 results while "land master" + teutonic gives 62 results. In this case English Wikipedia proves to be unreliable ;)
3) I have no idea how to abbreviate Prince-Bishopric or even if there is any kind of convention on that matter. As a general rule, abbreviations should be avoided whenever possible as people new to the topic will be confused. Thus my suggestion would be putting a blue box with full description in the legend (like for example, you have for Livonian bishoprics). If that is not possible, then another idea is putting something like "PBW" on the map and describing it in full in the legend. Your idea of explaining the acronym in legend could also work.
4) Ruth Princ. Yeah, I later realized that you also have a corner of Novgorod in the map. I dunno how to name that in the limited space that you have. But Ruthenian Principalities are no longer applicable. Maybe leave blank? It's better to have nothing than to mislead. Or maybe put back "Russian Principalities" - within couple of decades all that territory with be dependent on Grand Duchy of Russia.
Thanks for taking such care! :) Renata3 (talk) 17:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ok, all done. I hope, it's fine now. :-) --S. Bollmann (talk) 20:21, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yup, all good now. Thank you again!
While on the topic of Teutonic Knights, would you be interested in making a map for en:Battle of Grunwald? I recently re-wrote the whole thing in preparing for the 600th anniversary this July. I think that a map of Polish-Lithuanian and Teutonic troop movements during the war (from invasion to Prussia, to Grunwald, to siege of Marienburg) would be very helpful. I have some maps that could be used. I could possibly do it myself, but my skills are very limited and it's important to get rivers and lakes correctly. I will owe you some serious barnstars if you take this. If you are interested, please email me (my username + gmail.com) so I could forward you the maps (they are not on the internet). Renata3 (talk) 21:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ok, you have mail. --S. Bollmann (talk) 01:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Karten edit

Hallo, könntest du mir verraten mit welchem Programm du deine Karten bearbeitest bzw. erstelltst, mich beeidruckt die Schärfe und die Qualität an deinen Karten. --JannX4 (talk) 05:50, 18 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Hi, ich benutze zum Erstellen der Kartengrundlage meistens de:Generic Mapping Tools, für die Weiterbearbeitung als Grafikprogramm Photoshop (ein anderes wäre aber sicher ebenso geeignet) und ich speichere meist im Format png, um Qualitätsverluste zu minimieren. Viele sehr gute Tipps, Anleitungen und Datenquellen zur Kartenerstellung sind in der de:Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt zusammengetragen. --S. Bollmann (talk) 12:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Könnten sie mir bei der Installation des Programms einige Fragen beantworten. Ich verstehe das Prinzip nicht ganz. --JannX4 (talk) 13:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Es gibt unter de:Hilfe:GMT eine sehr umfangreiche Hilfeseite innerhalb der Kartenwerkstatt, auf der Installation und anhand von vielen Beispielen auch die Bedienung von GMT ausführlich erklärt werden. Außerdem gibt es weiterführende Links. Besser als es da steht, kann ich es auch nicht erklären. Zumal ich mein Wissen über das Programm auch bloß von dort habe. Falls du trotzdem noch Fragen hast, kannst du mich natürlich gerne fragen. Gerne auch direkt auf meiner deutschen Benutzerseite: de:Benutzer_Diskussion:Stefan_Bollmann --S. Bollmann (talk) 22:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Map for Grunwald campaign edit

 
You deserve a serious pile of banstars for this! Thank you!

Wow, awesome! It's so much better than I expected! I do have a couple minor nitpicks, mostly translation stuff.

  1. Is there any way that you could make rivers stand out more? The whole Polish-Lithuanian turn-back at Kauernik was determined by a river.
  2. Could you change the color for Polish-Lithuanian army (to say, green)? Because on Kingdom of Poland territory it's a yellow line on yellowish background -- does not stand out in thumbnail.
  3. Is there any differences between towns/castles marked with white dots vs those marked with black dos? I cannot figure that out... (like what's the difference between Balga and Konigsberg)
  4. The way to Grunwald in 1410 and First Peace of Thorn 1411 -> I would simplify it to "Grunwald Campaign of 1410" as the peace treaty was not signed right after the campaign, there was some more fighting after Marienburg (maybe create a special sign for Thorn to indicate peace treaty -- like the battlefield is marked by two swords)
  5. Castles of the Order, which not capitulated.... -> that did not capitulate
  6. The text boxes (mind the "s" for arrive):
    1. A: The main force... (un-capitalize)
    2. C: A detached force is send... -> sent
    3. D&E: The army (...) assemble -> assembles
    4. H: Polish armies arrives the south bank of the Vistula and crosses the river -> Polish armies arrive to the southern bank of the Vistula and cross the river
    5. J: The Order's troops arrives Kauernick -> arrive to
    6. P&Q&R: arrives -> arrives to
    7. T: arrives Marienburg, he organizes -> arrive to Marienburg to organize
    8. V: siege of Marienburg until September 19, when the Siege of Marienburg was lifted -> Siege of Marienburg, that was lifted on September 19

Thanks again! Renata3 (talk) 14:30, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ok, I hope, I have all well done in the new version. [[1]] Oh, and thanks vor the barnstars. :-) --S. Bollmann (talk) 19:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Great! Just for text boxes P, Q & R it should be "army arrives to...". Also, I just noticed that you used modern coat or arms for Lithuania. That particular image was created in 1991 by en:Arvydas Každailis, so I would think it is not very appropriate for 1410. Could you borrow the arms from say File:Alex K Rzech Pospolita1.svg (looks more medieval)? If not, it's fine as is. Than you again. Renata3 (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
A new version with the latest corrections is now available: "arrives" and a more mediaeval coat of arms of Lithuania. --S. Bollmann (talk) 23:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
Great, thank you! :) Renata3 (talk) 01:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Samogitian border edit

Hey, I am sure you are sick and tired of me now. I just looked at File:Teutonic Order 1410.png and File:Teutonic Order 1466.png and noticed something weird -- the Samogitian territory does not reach the Baltic Sea. Could you fix it? Lithuania had access to the sea between en:Palanga and en:Šventoji, Lithuania -- measly 15km, but still a beach :) It is kinda important as the Teutonic order was not connected with Livonian Order. Thanks, Renata3 (talk) 03:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'm in touch with some experts of the history of the Teutonic order at German wikipedia. It seems indeed, the border's course depends on time and has to change possibly on my maps. The land bridge between Prussia ans Livonia was not existing all the time. At second issue the Samogitian area, claimed by the Order, seems to be too big. I ask an German expert about more accurate maps and I hope, I will be able to improve my maps in both objects soon. --S. Bollmann (talk) 16:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
I noticed the seashore when I was working on en:Treaty of Melno (1422). It specifically says that Lithuania had access between Palanga and Šventoji. Before that date -- no one really knows. Regarding the chunk of Samogitia, the en:Treaty of Dubysa (1382) drew the border along the en:Dubysa River, the en:Treaty of Königsberg (1384) drew it along the en:Nevėžis River. It seems that your map is following the en:Šventoji River. There were other, subsequent treaties -- I am not sure if the border was moved again (I wrote all those articles, but I did not see that being mentioned anywhere). Renata3 (talk) 23:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Short update: The next versions of thix maps will come not before November. Unfortunately I have no free time actual. --S. Bollmann (talk) 22:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Tutorial request edit

Dear Mr. Bollmann, I currently seek a source for historical maps I could adopt to my needs (genealogical research of the korczak-clan: www.korczak-clan.de) and would highly appreciate if you could give me a hint how to create maps like yours. Regards Hubert

Da es eine deutschsprachige Seite ist, kann ich auch gleich auf deutsch antworten. ;) Die Karten sind mit dem Tool GMT entstanden. GMT steht für Generic Mapping Tool. Das ist eine freie und kostenlose Software für Windows- und Linux-PC oder Mac, die über Kommandozeilenparameter beliebige Karten generiert. Dazu liegen freie Geodaten vor, aus denen das Programm die gewünschten Karten erstellt. Eine sehr ausführliche Hilfe mit einer sehr guten Schritt-für-Schritt-Anleitung und vielen Beispielkarten gibt es in der deutschen Wikipedia unter de:Hilfe:GMT. Dort sind auch die Bezugsquelle für den Programmdownload und weiterführende Links wie zum Online-Handbuch enthalten. Die verlinkte Seite ist Teil der de:Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt. Dort kann man sich mit Experten auf dem Gebiet der Kartenerstellung austauschen und Tipps holen.
Mit der Software GMT enthält man Küstenlinien, Seen, Flussverläufe, kann Maßstabsleisten, Windrosen, Gitternetze etc. einblenden. Man kann mit zusätzlichen Höhendaten physische Karten generieren, mit Koordinaten Orte eintragen lassen. All das ist im verlinkten Tutorial erklärt.
Die Symbole, Farben und Beschriftungen in meinen Karten sind dann jedoch in einem weiteren Bearbeitungsschritt in einem Grafikprogramm entstanden. Ich selbst benutze Photoshop. Aber auch kostenlose Software wie zum Beispiel das Grafikprogramm Gimp ist dafür sehr gut geeignet. Alles in allem ist die Erstellung komplexer Karten jedoch sehr aufwendig und man sollte genug Zeit mitbringen, um sich einzuarbeiten. --S. Bollmann (talk) 16:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

File:Grunwald_1410.png - minor error edit

Nice job. A correction is needed: Polish (and modern English) name for Marienburg is not Malborg but w:Malbork. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Your correction will be done in the next version. --S. Bollmann (talk) 22:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Hallo S. Bollmann,
erstmal vielen Dank für die schönen, hochwertigen und sehr erfreulich detaillierten Karten, die sich ja mittlerweile in vielen Artikeln finden. Ich wollte gerne eine grundsätzliche Bemerkung machen: die Karten sind zwar alle qualitativ sehr gut, was mich aber grundsätzlich doch etwas stört und die Betrachtung manchmal etwas anstrengend macht ist der Umstand, dass das Meer immer in einer tief-violetten Farbe gehalten ist. Dadurch wird die ganze Karte sehr dunkel und die Kontraste sind wesentlich schwieriger zu sehen. Als ein Beispiel die Karte des Danelag:

Hier muss ich sagen, dass ich die rechtsstehende Karte, obwohl sie wesentlich weniger detailliert ist, doch angenehmer anzusehen finde, weil sie wesentlich kontrastreicher ist.

Oder als anderes Beispiel der Nordische Krieg:

Wenn man das Baltikum oder die Schwarzmeerregion ansieht gibt es dort praktisch nur dunkle Farben: satt orange, intensive gelborange, dunkelgrün, violett. Das finde ich nicht optimal.

Deswegen meine Frage/Anregung: wäre es möglich, dass Du zumindest probeweise bei einigen Karten das Meer in einem hellen Blau zeichnen würdest?

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KARTE "SKANDINAVISCHE ORTSNAMEN IN ENGLAND"

Hallo SBollmann, leider sehe ich gerade keine andere Möglichkeit, Sie zu kontaktieren, daher muss ich es wohl über die Disskussionsseite versuchen. Ich schreibe meine Magisterarbeit zum Thema skandinavische Ortsnamen auf Shetland und würde mich freuen, wenn ich Ihre Karte "Skandinavische Ortsnamen in England" als Abblidung verwenden darf. Ich würde Sie natürlich korrekt als Quelle angeben. Beste Grüße, Fraudrau

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Comments Weak. Somewhat low DOF for this kind of view. Why f/2.8? 5.6 and higher ISO would have been better. Yes, I know, most HighISO images are declined here, because reviewers compare such live photography with stills. --Smial 15:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

 
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Comments Weak. Low DOF, but acceptabel. --Smial 15:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Comments Left crop not optimal, but overal QI to me --Poco a poco 12:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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ich hab mir gerade deine Bilder vom FS angeschaut, es ist ein echtes Vergnügen. Auch wenn es "nur" eine Crop-Kamera war/ist, die Bilder sind wirklich super geworden. Ich denke, dass auch das Objektiv einen guten Teil dazu beigetragen hat, dass es für dich auch als Erfolg zu werten ist. Ich bin froh zu sehen, was machbar ist, denn ich habe dasselbe, aber noch nie damit in ähnlicher Situation gearbeitet. Bin eher so ein Stativ-Versteher. Gruß aus Wien --Hubertl (talk) 00:36, 27 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Danke für dein positives Feedback. Sorry für die späte Reaktion, ich habe längere Zeit nicht mehr hier rein geschaut. Ich bin mit der Kamera ganz zufrieden. Eine höherwertige mit weniger Rauschen in höheren ISO-Bereichen wäre natürlich noch besser - nicht immer fotografiert man am hellen Tage. Gerade bei Konzerten. Ich finde auch, ein gutes Objektiv ist manchmal wichtiger als der Body. Darum habe ich bisher auch lieber dafür Geld ausgegeben als für eine neue Kamera. (Außerdem hat man mit Crop ja noch den Brennweitenvorteil bei Tele, von daher bin ich mit Crop generell nicht unglücklich.) Ansonsten: Viel fotografieren und 70 bis 90% wegschmeißen. Ein paar gelungene Aufnahmen sind meistens dabei. :) --S. Bollmann (talk) 20:49, 14 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Comments Crop a bit tight at the top and DOF could be a bit deeper around the mouth(?) area, but OK for me. --El Grafo 15:11, 27 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Ich war mutig edit

Ich war mutig und habe spontan dein Bild bei den QI vorgestellt.

user:Cccefalon hat aber dennoch einen Kommentar abgegeben. Kannst du dir das mal anschauen? --Atamari (talk) 20:30, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Danke für die Nominierung. :)
Aber ernsthaft, es wird ein Farbsaum bemängelt? Das Bild hätte ganz andere Probleme. Und ja, natürlich strahlen die weißen Flächen an ihrem Rand magentafarben. Schließlich waren dort ja auch magentafarbene Scheinwerfer auf ihn gerichtet und weiß reflektiert nun mal am meisten. Na wie auch immer, da die automatische objektivbasierte Aberrations-Entfernung per Software in dem Fall natürlich nichts gebracht hat, hab ich da manuell nachgeholfen. Für ne wirkliche Verbesserung halte ich das zwar nicht, aber wenns jemanden glücklich macht. :) --S. Bollmann (talk) 17:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Comments Pretty good! Can you please raise magenta defringing a bit? There is a slight fringe around the white areas on his jacket. --Cccefalon 17:12, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Mein Programm und meine Erfahrung ist dazu nicht gut genug. @S. Bollmann: magst du an das RAW noch mal dran gehen? --Atamari 20:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC) I have emasculated the chromatic aberration a little bit now. --S. Bollmann 17:35, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Grunwald_1410.png edit

Hi I found some small errors in this file. In 1410 there was no Włocławek Reservoir, Kaliningrader Seeschifffahrtskanal, Weichseldurchstich and Wisła Śmiała. If you need any help with finding these on a map let me know. Sidevar (talk) 09:15, 23 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yes, you are absolutely right. :) The map shows the courses of rivers and coast lines of today, not in fifteenth century. But this is common for most modern maps with historical topics. Mostly because of we do not know the exact courses of rivers and coastal lines in past times. For example the Hel peninsula was in Middle Age (and till eighteenth century) a chain of some small islands, the delta distributary of the river Vistula have had an different course and the river itself was not regulated and had a lot of meanders we don't know, maybe the Łebsko Lake was a bay open to the Baltic Sea? We don't know. So it's for most purposes an arrangement, to work with modern geography. --S. Bollmann (talk) 21:58, 27 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Maps of the Teutonic Order state edit

Dear S. Bollmann, Your maps of the Ordenstaat are really fantastic. I was wondering whether you could tell me whether you sourced them from somewhere, or made them yourself, and if so - how. I would be interested in reproducing them in something I am working on if it were possible.

Regards, Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varkenslacht (talk • contribs) 02:14, 17 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Varkenslacht. The sources for the maps are numerated under the maps. Mostly German Books about the State of the Teutonic Order. The maps are made with GMT mapping tools (explanations are given in wikipedia) and the coloration is done with Adobe Photoshop. --S. Bollmann (talk) 20:45, 23 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Deutscher Orden um 1260 edit

Hallo S. Bollmann,

ich war so frech und habe deine schöne Karte etwas umkoloriert, damit deutlich wird, dass der Orden zum HRR gute Beziehungen hatte und zu den eingestreuten Bistümern meist auch recht gute, dass aber der Hauptgegner das Großfürstentum Litauen war, das sich im Widerstand gegen den Orden eigentlich erst herausbildete.

Wenn dir meine Bearbeitung nicht behagt, kannst du sie ja wieder durch deine letzte Version ersetzen.

Noch besser aber fände ich, wenn du aus deiner Ausgangsversion und ohne Schmierfarben eine Karte mit Signaturfarben erstellst, die ebenfalls Antagonismen und Allianzen verdeutlicht.

Beste Grüße, Ulamm (talk) 23:18, 5 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

P.S. Wir mir beim Hochladen klar geworden ist, hast du dann insgesamt wohl /mindestens) sechs Karten zu verbessern, drei auf Deutsch und drei auf Englisch. Aber ich denke es lohnt sich. Und ein umkolorieren von den Vorstufen aus, wie nur du es kannst, ist weniger mühsam und im Detail sauberer, als ein umkolorieren vom deinem bisherigen Endergebnis aus, wie ich es gemacht habe. Noch ein Gruß, Ulamm (talk) 05:16, 6 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Also mal ernsthaft. Ich bin entsetzt. Die Qualität deiner Verschlimmbesserung ist ja so unterirdisch, dass es undiskutabel ist. Sorry, aber ich werde das demnächst wieder zurücksetzen. Das ist der große Mangel an Wikipedia: Es setzt sich nicht das Beste durch, sondern das Mittelmaß. Nicht das meine Arbeit das Beste wäre (weiß Gott nicht), aber so geht's ja nun auch nicht. --S. Bollmann (talk) 20:29, 23 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

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In Category:Wave-Gotik-Treffen 2017 gibt es einen ganzen Schwung Bilder mit "2016" im Dateinamen. Wäre es nicht zielführend, die umbenennen zu lassen? Oder steckt etwas dahinter, was nicht offensichtlich ist? --Smial (talk) 15:32, 30 July 2018 (UTC) Ps: Ich wollte welche davon für COM:QI vorschlagen, aber mit dem "falschen" Dateinamen würden die von vorneherein durchfallen.Reply

Die sind sicher nur falsch benamt worden. Wäre schön, wenn du die Umbenennung hinbekommen würdest. Ich hab keine Ahnung davon. Es werden ja noch nicht mal meine Löschwünsche wegen doppelt oder falsch benamter Fotos abgearbeitet. :( --Stefan Bollmann (talk) 13:21, 25 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Smial: Ich habe nun Dank erteilter Dateiverschiebe-Rechte alle Dateien im WGT-Ordner 2017 umbenannt. Es sollte jetzt überall die richtige Jahreszahl im Dateinamen stehen. Wenn du noch magst, kannst du nun vorschlagen, was du möchtest. :) --S. Bollmann (talk) 20:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Oh, sorry, ich habe das völlig aus den Augen verloren. Schaue aber die Tage noch einmal drüber. --Smial (talk) 22:37, 13 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Wäre es nicht besser, diese Karten als mehrsprachige SVGs herzustellen, in der die Texte automatisch je nach Sprache der Webseite, in der sie eingebettet sind, ausgewählt werden? --L.Willms (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Nolispanmo: what other permission is needed here? It indicates author (who is the user) and has all the appropriate copyright and other tags? Is this a mistaken tag by you? Renata3 (talk) 15:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hey Renata3. Photographer Ralf Stummeyer <> Uploader Stefan Bollmann --Nolispanmo 14:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Lol. Is this a bad joke? Who the f*ck is this Ralf Stummeyer and why is he registered as the author of my photos? That doesn't make any sense from start to finish! Maybe some vandal wrote another author in there? What does the version history of the deleted picture pages say? I'm feeling very pissed off here right now. With the rest of the series of pictures from the performance, everything seems to be correct, why should these three pictures of all things be photographed with the same camera, in the same style, post-edited with the same editing program on the same computer (the originals are on my hard drive) suddenly by come from who else? Someone who briefly stole my camera and later my computer in order to first take pictures and then edit them? This is just complete nonsense. --S. Bollmann (talk) 16:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hallo Nolispanmo, kleine Richtigstellung: Ralf Stummeyer ist Inhaber des Unternehmens LensAvenue, einem Laden zum Verleih von Photo-Equipment, bei dem WMDE Kameras ausleiht - dadurch kommt sein Name in die EXIF-Daten. Fotograf der Bilder ist S. Bollmann im Rahmen des Festivalsommers. Es wäre prima, wenn du die Bilder wieder herstellst. Gruß, -- 2003:C7:72B:C101:2CEF:4ACC:9082:1B83 17:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, war wohl ausgeloggt -- Achim Raschka (talk) 17:37, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hey Achim, danke für die Erklärung. Damit erledigt. @S. Bollmann everthing fine: the exif data contains the name of the rental company in the photographer section. Greetings --Nolispanmo 15:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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The city in southern Sweden is Karlskrona - not Karlstad. 92.35.85.21 17:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Hallo Stefan,

ich habe gesehen, dass du bei der Benutzung des Template:Concert Category stets den Namen des Events mit vorangestelltem Leerzeichen als dritten Parameter für die Sortierung übergibst. Mir ist bekannt, dass das insbesondere außerhalb des deutschsprachigen Raumes häufig so gemacht wird - Von daher: Keinen Vorwurf!

Ich möchte das allerdings trotzdem hinterfragen, da ich darin keinen Vorteil, sondern eher einen Nachteil sehe. Da viele andere Festivalsommer-Teilnehmer diesem 'System' nicht folgen, sondern standardmäßig nach dem Namen des Events ohne Leerzeichen sortieren lassen, treffen im deutschsprachigen Raum auch noch diese beiden Systeme aufeinander, was meines Erachtens in Künstlerkategorien recht unschön aussieht.

Das ganze soll keine Aufforderung sein, das andere System zu nutzen. Da du einer der aktivsten Nutzer in dem Sektor und zudem auch Anwender des 'anderen Systems' bist, würde ich da gerne mit dir in den Austausch kommen und deine Meinung zu dem Thema hören.

Liebe Grüße, LeoDE (talk) 13:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi, was ist denn das Problem, bzw. worum genau geht es denn? Ich nutze das Template einfach mit den vorgegebenen Parametern. Was sollte ich denn sonst machen und welchen Effekt hätte dies?
S. Bollmann (talk) 16:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi, danke für deine Antwort. Ein Beispiel wäre die Category:Bullet for My Valentine - Full Force 2022. Da hast du das Template mit {{Concert Category|Bullet for My Valentine|Full Force Festival 2022| Full Force Festival 2022}} eingebunden. Das führt dazu, dass der Auftritt auf dem Full Force in der Category:Bullet for My Valentine ganz am Anfang aufgeführt wird, während die übrigen Auftritte nach dem Namen des Festivals sortiert unter dem entsprechenden Anfangsbuchstaben eingeordnet sind. Mit {{Concert Category|Bullet for My Valentine|Full Force Festival 2022}} wäre das anders, da würde der Auftritt entsprechend auch unter "F" für Full Force eingeordnet werden.
Wie erwähnt sehe ich da erst einmal nichts "falsches" dran, ich finde es persönlich nur unübersichtlicher. Ich würde da gerne nur eine Art Stimmungsbild einholen, ob ich da mit meiner Version eher allein auf weiter Flur bin, oder ob ich da mal eine allgemeinere Debatte zu eröffne, um da international einen Standard zu etablieren. Liebe Grüße, LeoDE (talk) 11:26, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ah, verstehe. Dann folgende Gedanken:
Erstens. Mir persönlich ist das letztendlich völlig wurscht, wie es gehandhabt wird. Da bin ich ganz emotionslos. Was ich nur nicht mag, erst über 2000 Bandkategorien so anzulegen wie bisher und nun bei zukünftigen Kategorien plötzlich ändern. Von mir aus bau einen Bot, der das alles automatisch umsortiert. Von Hand setz ich mich da jedenfalls bestimmt nicht dran. Ansonsten mach ich das einfach weiter wie bisher. Denn wie gesagt möchte ich bei mir bitte alles nach einem System haben, egal welches.
Zweitens. Mir ist das natürlich auch aufgefallen, dass Unterkategorien für Bandauftritte mit mehreren verschiedenen Systemen eingeordnet werden. Meiner Erfahrung nach sind Kategorien, die sich nach dem Festivalnamen sortieren, meist Kategorien, die dein Template gar nicht nutzen, sondern noch irgendwas anderes.
Drittens. Wenn das, wie du schreibst, im internationalen Bereich normal ist, so wie ich es mache, dann verstehe ich auch nicht die Fragestellung. Commons ist englisch/international, da gibts doch keinen deutschen Bereich oder sowas, wo man eine eigene Sortierung etabliert. Man nimmt die international gebräuchliche.
Viertens. Wenn ich länger drüber nachdenke: Eine Sortierung nach dem Festivalnamen ist eigentlich sowieso ziemlich unnütz. Wahrscheinlich sucht keiner nach irgendeinem bestimmten Bandauftritt. Bühne ist Bühne. Ob die in Wacken, in Dinkelsbühl oder im Coachella Valley steht, dürfte fast jedem, der ein Bandfoto sucht, egal sein. Wichtiges Kriterium dürfte eher das Jahr sein. Wenn ich einen Artikel bebildern will, will ich ja vor allem aktuelle Bilder der Künstler. (Neue Frisur vom Sänger, neues Band-Lineup, neues Backdrop - passend zum neuen Album ...) Auf welchem Festival das Bild dann geschossen wurde, ist völlig egal. Eine Sortierung sollte also eher von alt nach neu (oder neu nach alt) sortieren, damit man schnell die aktuellsten Bilder findet. Das würde ich jedenfalls als viel hilfreicher empfinden als die Info, wo genau das Foto geschossen wurde.
Soweit meine Gedanken dazu. :-) S. Bollmann (talk) 17:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hi,
danke für deinen Input!
zu 1.: Wäre ja ohnehin ein Kandidat für eine Bot-Änderung. Wenn, dann würde das ja auch nicht nur die von dir angelegten Kategorien betreffen, sondern weitere tausende.
zu 2.: Gibt solche und solche. Das Template wird von ca. 5.600 Kategorien eingebunden, wobei 4.600 dabei das Leerzeichen gesetzt haben, ein Großteil davon durch wenige User die in großen Mengen kategorisiert haben.
zu 3.: Ja, wobei das nach meiner Recherche kein gebildeter Konsens aufgrund sich dadurch bildender Vorteile, sondern ein "die anderen haben es so gemacht, also hab ich das so fortgesetzt" zu sein scheint. Daher überlege ich, international da mal einen Austausch drüber anzuregen, weil "haben wir immer so gemacht, auch wenn's anders vielleicht besser wär" für mich kein Grund ist.
zu 4.: Sehr guter Einwand! Wahrscheinlich macht's tatsächlich mehr Sinn, die Kategorien nach Jahreszahl zu sortieren.
-- LeoDE (talk) 11:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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