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  •   Comment I tweaked the categories and description for more specificity but left the filename alone. Let me know if it should also be made more specific, such as "Two slices of cheesecake and wine". -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:27, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you are on the dessert, you have probably used your napkin during the first part of your meal. A piece of cloth (napkin, towel, etc) is a common component in modern food photography, usually placed to enhanced the curve of a plate. Here it is used to break the white on white of the plate/tablecloth and show off the corner of the plate and eliminate what would otherwise be just a white area, leaving the compo unbalanced. Anyone here is welcome to picture-Google "food photography" and see what it's all about. --Cart (talk) 08:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • A dirty towel to make the meal more appetizing? Not coherent with the little delicate flowers 🌸🐷 :-)
And why no space around? The cluttered composition doesn't breathe in my opinion -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose It is a beautiful dish and well presented, but the photo I think was taken lightly and with a very closed composition without enough space, cut utensil, black sweater and distracting background --Wilfredor (talk) 01:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment I'll give this maybe 24 hours to see if anyone else really likes this photo, but win or lose, I'd like people here to consider the implications of why it's so much harder to feature a plated food photo than a photo of a building facade or view of mountains. We've seen imperfect mountain view photos featured, and a photo that includes part of a building and water with an interesting composition that's too fuzzy for me to vote for is well on its way to a feature right now. It seems like plated food has to meet a much higher standard to be passed here. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:35, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose The picture itself is nice, but as per Charles and Basile. -- -donald- (talk) 06:29, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Tomer T (talk) 06:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Everything is so coquettishly arranged on the plate, with flowers and ice sugar, I wonder why a piece of cloth, unappetizing as possible, has been placed on this table 😳.
According to the archives, there have been 3 FP of food promoted since the beginning of this month, that's not too bad, and in any case much better than other categories like Astronomy (1), Historical (0), Natural phenomena (1), Other lifeforms (0), People (1) or Portrait (0), Fungi (0), Space exploration (0), Sports (0), etc.
There are not so many food pictures nominated at QIC either. But at FPC, the ratio of success / failure is much tighter (around 50%, all categories). Some of my candidatures passed here in the past, some others failed, and a few ones were promoted on Wikipedia English but revoked on Commons! :-) That's the challenge! Beautiful plate, but I agree with others: the crop is too tight (top and bottom), the left side cut, and the accidental sweater most embarrassing. Sorry -- Basile Morin (talk) 07:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't call what we have been featuring here lately "food photography", they are simply sorted in the food category. They are focus stacked food components treated as specimens. I know that Basile has made some very good attempts (better than anyone else here of the FPC regulars) at more real food photography before, and I'd love to see that more developed. --Cart (talk) 09:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
File:Piece of chocolate cake on a white plate decorated with chocolate sauce.jpg was uploaded last week, and I would support it if nominated here. There are more available outside of Commons, that can be imported by anybody. But like many other users here, food photography is not my specialty. Still, I feel able to appreciate, or not. Next time, maybe -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:05, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nice find, thanks for uploading it. I have a vacant slot and I'l be happy to use it. --Cart (talk) 11:28, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Despite the mentioned shortcomings IMHO a good example of ‘casual’ food photography. I don’t like the black piece of cloth and the cropped cutlery, too, but maybe this is intentional, it gives the photo a ‘real live’ touch. When my parents did food photography for some customers (who wanted to sell their china, kitchenware and accessories, therefore we had to take appetizing photos), we sometimes faced the problem that the well-arranged table and dishes looked a little bit clean. Adding some random everyday accessory or placing the cutlery in a careless manner can help in that situation ;–). --Aristeas (talk) 08:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose Should have shallow DOF. --Mile (talk) 09:02, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •   I withdraw my nomination There's no point in continuing this nomination, but I think Basile's remark about the rate at which "food photos" pass FPC deserves a reply. Unless I'm misreading things, there is a grand total of 3 FPs in the "Meals (food and drink)" category, and if you scroll up at that link, a grand total of 5 desserts ("sweet food"). If you scroll up further, you can see 3 composed plates of savory food (4 if you count "birds on stick") and one Big Mac hamburger that's not shown on a plate. By contrast, look at this page of doors, ceilings and other architectural elements, to give one illustrative example for the sake of contrast. That other categories are underrepresented is not a good thing or a good argument for the idea that photos of composed plates of food don't have a very, very hard time passing FPC. I'm not suggesting that the arguments against this nomination were invalid, but I do observe as a general case that there's a demonstrated bias against photos of composed food on this page, as compared to a number of other categories. Folks here prefer architecture and landscapes, and while I love them, too, I think it's a problem for things to be so lopsided in favor of x, y and z categories here and against a, b and c categories. I'll add that I will continue to nominate food photos that seem great to me, and it's OK with me if they're taken apart again, but I think we should look for great photos in underrepresented categories that might pass here. Thanks for your comments; I do accept them all as sincere and clearly expressed. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:26, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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