Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives January 21 2015

Consensual review edit

File:Sankt Georgen Rottenstein 1 Schloss Einfahrt Baer 15102006 221.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination Statue of a bear with coats of arms at the entrance gate of castle Rottenstein, Sankt Georgen am Längsee, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:50, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion   Support Good quality. --DXR 06:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)  Oppose Technically QI, but I miss the identification of the Coats of Arms, please.--Jebulon 09:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
      Comment  Question No longer is it sufficient that a photo is good? Must operate the Bildautor now already historical research to figure out something that has not even get out of the Geschichtsverein für Kärnten?   Support QI for me! --Steindy 13:16, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
  InfoThis bear has a counterpart on the other side of the entrance which bears the CoA of the Egger family. One idea to identify the CoA, that the bear on this photo has a relation to Gorton, the family which still today owns the castle. Also, Count Egger had a sister, who married Carl Sichl, the mayor of St. Georgen on March 3, 1880. Three sickles (Sichl or Sichel in german language) are essential part of the said CoA. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 07:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Finally I found it. All the above mentioned contents are absolutely correct. The CoA is of the countess Karoline Sichl von Oberburg (* June 9th, 1842 in Unterbergen by Kappel am Krappfeld, died August 19th, 1918 in Rottenstein by Sankt Georgen am Laengsee) who was married to the castle builder, count Gustav Johann Paul Thaddäus Franz Xaver, Graf von Egger. --Johann Jaritz (talk) 10:05, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Great news! :) And yes, you have my   Support --Cccefalon 16:18, 20 January 2015 (UTC) (I forgot to mention this morning, that the 9-pearl-crown is indicating the status of a count or countess)
  SupportExcellent ! I think we all learnt many things, and now this picture has a better value. Very interesting. Very good effort. Thanks for the research and the good result. @ User:Steindy: no, it is not sufficient. According to the rules, everything identifiable must be identified. The goal is not to punish anybody, but just to increase the value of our contributions ! "Commons" is something more than any other pictures site !--Jebulon 21:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
  Comment Jebulon: That with the identifying but also has limitations. IMHO it is not the job of the photographer to operate as a researcher. There are many monuments especially in statues, pictures and the like where not indicated, who was the sculptor or painter. Yes, it is not even reported in the literature to something. If one applies these standards in QI, QI then will be fast at the end. For houses are also not required so by the builder or Archtitects. I once cyclist found in photos for discussion that is not the name of the athlete is given. This would have been easy to identify on the basis of race number. This was dismissed with the fact that it is an amateur and therefore not of interest. For more see here. To me this looks a bit like the „torment“ of photographers. Matt Buck or I can not tell you the train number of the train, we've photographed, although they would be interested in a railfan also. But it would take too long to discuss this here. Regards --Steindy 22:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
I agree. We also don't apply identification requirements consistently. Is there consensus on QI that full identification burden falls on the photographer? I don't know about that. Ram-Man 23:18, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Trier_BW_2014-06-17_08-01-14.jpg edit

 

  • Nomination Germany, Trier, coat of arms at Böhmerstraße 11 --Berthold Werner 15:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion Good quality.--Famberhorst 17:34, 18 January 2015 (UTC)  OpposeSorry no. a) we need the identification of the CoA, b) we need an accurate file name,c) we need a correct categorization.--Jebulon 09:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
      Done CoA identified, better categories, filename is still the same. --Berthold Werner 11:50, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
  •   SupportGood for me now, thank you.--Jebulon 21:21, 20 January 2015 (UTC)