Commons:Upload Wizard feedback/Archive/2011/07

Usage of the word "Donate"

See also Commons talk:Upload Wizard/Archive 1#'donate' vs 'upload' - how to fix the uploadwizard text?

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I notice the wizard uses the phrase "Donate media file". I object to this wording, because it implies that the uploader relinquishes all rights to Wikimedia Commons, which is not true. Also, the uploader may not be the creator of the file, and may feel it is "not theirs to give", even though it has a Creative Commons license. It should be reworded, perhaps to "Upload media file". InverseHypercube (talk) 03:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

There are arguments on both sides. In my experience, users need to be hit with a sledgehammer to understand that they really are permanently allowing other people to use their works. Naive users (whose grasp of copyright is pretty shaky already) have a vague idea that they always have rights over their own works, no matter what happens. The "donate" wording was suggested by various people including a testing firm we hired. NeilK (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I see. I guess the sentiment is that it's better to be safe than sorry? InverseHypercube (talk) 23:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but these are two very separate issues that are being conflated. Donation to me means something very specific - it's giving something away with no expectation of return. That's not what's happening here - uploaders are giving something away for free, but not necessarily with no expectation of returns (personally, when I upload images under CC-BY-SA, I expect attribution). In contrast, if your aim is to emphasise that an upload is in perpetuity, then simply say that - if necessary adding a check box to make sure that uploaders have read it. "Donating" does not solely mean "in perpetuity" - and to use it as that is fundamentally wrong. Mike Peel (talk) 19:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why «they always have rights over their own works» should be incorrect. They actually do keep them, because licenses are not exclusive. The word "donation" implies a transfer of "ownership" i.e. of exclusive copyrights rights which applies only to the traditional publishers (but perhaps I'm confused by the meaning of the word in Italian, where it's unquestionably wrong). I wonder if that mysterious testing firm knows how free knowledge and licenses work. Nemo 19:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Both Nemo and Mike Peel are absolutely correct. Nobody is "donating" anything here, at least to Commons. Even people who use PD as license "donate" their works to public domain, not to Commons. I never donate anything to Commons or Public Domain except my time, and the copyright of my pictures remains with me. The word "donate" is absolutely wrong and misleading, and should be removed from there ASAP.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 21:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Only up to 10 images?

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I can only upload a maximum of 10 images in one go? Not good... Gryffindor (talk) 22:23, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

UW currently has a maximum session length of 25 minutes (related to some backend architecture issues that we'll need to resolve), which I think is the reason for this hardcoded limit. It also doesn't deal with error situations in the final step very well yet. But I definitely agree that eliminating this restriction would be highly desirable.--Eloquence (talk) 23:32, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I would like to be able to upload more than 10 in one go too Sweetie candykim (talk) 19:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

"Looks like a file you obtained from another imagehost"

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This works very poorly and gets hungup. It appears to run off the titles and likes to mess with titles I like. When I cahnge the title nothing happens. Please consider revamping this whole thing. Also I need feedback. I complained about this yesterday and have heard nothing. Smallbones (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The current blacklist situation is horrible.

Commons has two different blacklists that are used to check filenames. MediaWiki:Filename-prefix-blacklist and MediaWiki:Titleblacklist. MediaWiki:Titleblacklist appears to be broken since the 1.17 deployment, per bugzilla:28466. So, files that should be rejected by the old upload form because their files match the Commons blacklist are not currently blocked, and a lot of standard camera filenames etc. go through.

At the same time, UploadWizard is implementing its own mini-JavaScript version of the title blacklist to catch the most common issues. This implementation is 1) prone to error in case a regular expression in the implementation is matched differently in different browsers, 2) redundant, 3) largely working. So, filenames that should be blocked are blocked by UploadWizard, but there may be issues of false positives. I can't tell you at a glance whether your match is a false positive, or actually a prohibited title rule per the blacklist developed and maintained by the community.

So, it's a mess, and UW is actually behaving more correctly right now than the old upload form. We need to fix the blacklist code, and the community probably needs to do some pruning to ensure that the rules on it still make sense. It's one of the big issues on our to-do list to sort out after 1) improved thumbnail generation (see Neil's comment here), 2) improved upload completion (see my note on files hanging in UW).--Eloquence (talk) 20:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

How can you say with a straight face that the "UW is actually behaving more correctly right now than the old upload form"? It behaves so correctly that nobody but unaware newbies that still aren't tired of serving as guinea pigs is using it.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 21:39, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Author

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Very poor. Why do categories & descriptions have to be copied individually to each file? It's just crashed on me, not for the first time.

The information still fails to make sufficiently clear the copyright position - people will still claim to be the "author" of photos of objects in copyright. Johnbod (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• Second point: what would you suggest, short of physically interrogating the applicants? I just don't see a solution. NVO (talk) 21:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

The meaning of "author" is not made at all clear. What I suggest is is explaining it clearly in simple English. Does that clarify? Johnbod (talk) 23:55, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

What short, clear phrase do you suggest? Jim.henderson (talk) 00:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

How about ‘Original creator/author’?

And they will still write "own work", "cuz I got to", "I want it here and I want it now". Human nature. NVO (talk) 18:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Uploadwizard category in many tongues

Is the wizard responsible for these categories added to files, or is this just a user addition:

• Category:Subido con UploadWizard
• Category:Загружено с UploadWizard
• Category:UploadWizard ile yüklendi

and others ?? --Tony Wills (talk) 11:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

wizard. Look at each file's history: these categories are there from the start. NVO (talk) 17:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Author field is too short

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Ian Spackman (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Source field is much too short

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This seemed to me to be a reasonable account of the source of a file:

Internet Archive’s copy of Eugen Holländer,

Die Karikatur und Satire in der Medizin: Medico-Kunsthistorische Studie von Professor Dr. Eugen Holländer, 2nd edn (Stuttgart:Ferdinand Enke, 1921), fig. 79 (p. 171).

Specifically the filediekarikaturunds00holl_0207.jp2 extracted from diekarikaturunds00holl_jp2.zip [174,178,046 bytes] in the folder http://ia600307.us.archive.org/33/items/diekarikaturunds00holl/

Ian Spackman (talk) 22:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Internal error: file was not found in temporary storage

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I uploaded three .jpg files at once, not extremely large (each around 2 MB). For the first one, I got the error message "Internal error: file was not found in temporary storage." The second and the third one (La_Suisse_Juli_2011-2.jpg and La_Suisse_engine_Juli_2011.jpg) got uploaded without problem. Gestumblindi (talk) 01:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

The next attempt for this particular file worked, it's now at File:La Suisse Juli 2011-1.jpg. Gestumblindi (talk) 01:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

self|self|self

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At every upload, the "wizard" adds another "self" to the CC0 template Pieter Kuiper (talk) 08:01, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

"Select a media file to donate"

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This button (the first you see when you click the "upload file" link to the left) is a bit odd - shouldn't it read "Select a media file to upload"? It's not obvious what uploading a file has to do with donating (which is typically used to refer to money or physical objects, not a copy of a file). Mike Peel (talk) 10:10, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I assume that this wording was chosen to indicate already at the first step of the uploading process that it's about donating images to the public. Gestumblindi (talk) 11:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

But it's not! The uploader is releasing images to the public, with the expectation of being attributed (or, if they are uploading a low resolution version of their image, then potentially financial recompense for their higher resolution version). They're not donating the image at all! Mike Peel (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Big improvement

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I really like the new upload pages! It is a huge improvement.

Suggestion: When I accidentally entered two identical titles, the upload on the second one failed, as it should. But I could not see how to back up and change the title without going through the whole process again. Maybe you could check for identical titles on the form, and have a button to back up if there are failed uploads for any reason. Edibobb (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

wenn mehrere Bilder hochgeladen und Dopplung

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Scheint man nicht weiter zu kommen, da er möchte, dass ich die Aktualisierung eines Bildes auf der jeweiligen Bildseite klären soll. Conny (talk) 16:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC).

Hallo Conny, wenn du es noch nicht geschafft hast, dann verwende das alte Formular hier: Commons:Hochladen. Dass der Hochladeasisstent/Upload wizard Probleme macht, wenn eine Datei schonmal hochgeladen wurde, ist bekannt und leider noch nicht gelöst. Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 00:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

feedback

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On the first step (Learn), the next button needs to be larger or more noticeable.

Is the wording - select which file to donate - understandable. Donate seems like an odd word? Usability studies? Mahanga (Talk) 18:14, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Organisation Logos

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I try to upload the logo of the Theodora Foundation. How can I put the {{Bild-LogoSH}} so that it will be uploaded/accepted? Thanks for help. Othmar Othmar Bamert (talk) 13:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Othmar, wenn du bei Commons:Hochladen "Es stammt von woanders." auswählst, kannst du diese Lizenz-Vorlage einfügen. Aber bitte hier auf Commons so: {{subst:Bild-LogoSH}} . Und beachte, dass die Regeln für Logo hier in Commons eine ganze Ecke strenger, als beim Upload in de.wikipedia sind. Hier sind nur reine Textlogos mit einfachen geometrischen Elementen erlaubt.

Wenn du die Benutzeroberfläche hier auf Deutsch gestellt hast, kommst du auch mit dem Hochladelink direkt auf die von mir verlinkte Seite Commons:Hochladen.

Alternativ gehe auf de:Wikipedia:Hochladen und wähle dort "Logo" aus. Mehr auf deiner Diskussionsseite (nicht wirklich hier passend). Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 00:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice upgrade; could use a few other features

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The batch upload ability is great. It could be better if you could choose multiple files at the same time, rather than being forced to continuously press the "add another file" button.

Also, once uploaded, it would be great if you could add the same description or extra text (e.g., coordinates or user-created templates) to the batch like you do with the batch license application.

Otherwise, great upgrade.

Best, Matt Wade (User:UpstateNYer) upstateNYer 03:13, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback! Yes, multi-file selection is high on our list of coming attractions, and some kind of batch description editing or copying has also been frequently requested -- we'll find a way to do it. So stay tuned. :-) --Eloquence (talk) 05:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Unable to correct errors, lot of work lost

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I was uploading a pack of files, and I wrongly entered the same destination name for some of them. System showed me a warning, for the duplicated ones, but it does not allow me to edit the names. Therefore I lost all work (descriptions, categories etc), and I had to start the upload again from zero, Jordiferrer (talk) 11:26, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Problem with categorization

Hello! All the 22 files uploaded through the new wizard lack categorization, even if I've inserted it in the field. This bug seems to be still here. Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 11:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Entering is not enough, you have to click to activate the category. This feature makes it possible to enter multiple categories one after the other. --Wuselig (talk) 13:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thank you! :-) --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 17:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I discovered that too. It is a bit counterintuitive. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 18:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

It was "learning by doing", or should I say "...not doing" in my case, too. Even within one batch-upload I sometimes still miss the essential klick. --Wuselig (talk) 10:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused. So I copypasted the text string into the window, waited until the window inflated to swallow it, then click what? NVO (talk) 20:18, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

The radio-button to the right of the window telling you what to do in your chosen language. Mine says "hinzufügen" at the moment. --Wuselig (talk) 22:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Assistant de téléVersement

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Tellement mieux que la version anglaise totalement hermétique et incompréhensible. Un seul mot : merci Sibanak (talk) 07:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

error message at "release rights" stage

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The message was that there were 3 errors on the form. Since there were at least 9 red stars, and no other way of identifying the errors, I didn't know what to do to correct them Andrew Dalby (talk) 10:32, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Bad interface: endless loop

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Unable to upload file; upload link is never exposed in an obvious way. Lovibond (talk) 03:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

New wizard

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The new wizard is excellent! Very easy to use and clear - no chance for confusion on the release rights now! Tayregoodwin (talk) 10:45, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It allowed you to categorise your file in a non existing category, still.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 11:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

This is correct behavior, in my opinion (although I never managed to have it save any categories). Upload first, create category later. Nothing wrong with it (I do it regularly, so it can't be wrong). NVO (talk) 20:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

It can't be right as well. The category added by this user is possibly acceptable, even if non existent, the problem is that newbies like this one never create the categories after adding them, and the file remains uncategorised while not appearing in the uncategorised media categories, making it very hard to find. Worst case are non-English speakers adding categories in their native language. I've found yesterday at least two French users which categorised every file they uploaded in UW (and they were a lot of them) with French named categories, like Ecrivains and the sort. It would be better if they couldn't add no categories at all than be allowed to add such things without even realizing the mistake they are doing, and without any system to warn them afterwards, as it is now.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 08:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't that just mean that the non-English categories should be created as (bot-aware) redirects to the corresponding English categories? Mike Peel (talk) 19:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps, but those kind of redirects are deleted on sight here, usually. Even alternative ways of spelling the category in English such as "Austrian painters" and "Painters from Austria" are generally against consensus and deleted when caught. At least these last are something that should be discussed: It's already such a burden to remember all the English names for everything when you are not a native English speaker, let alone the precise variation Commons use. I completely fail to understand why there is such a bloody war on redirects, really.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 21:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

If this is the case, then I would completely agree with you - given that such a redirect costs Commons nothing, and provides benefits both in mono- and multi-lingual senses, that seems to be a very odd consensus to me. If you can point me towards the location where that consensus was reached, then I would very much appreciate it. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It is something that is being done for long, long time. Category:Austrian painters, for instance, ws deleted in 2007. When I joined the project in 2009, I seem to recall a large purge on those redirects as well, including some I created. Unfortunately I cannot point you to the precise origins of this habit, though Foroa certainly can, so you may talk to him. If I well recall from past conversations, part of the argument has to do with keeping users from adding wiki-en style categories, and educating them by not leaving that option available. This never worked, IMO, since it was always possible to add those cats, the only difference is that they would show as red links and would not categorise anything. As it is now with the new UW, even the red link are not shown, so it's all trouble and no gain. And from the moment we had bots automatically moving files from redirected categories into the proper category, I really can't see what is the problem with those redirects.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 23:15, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

IIRC cat redirs show up in HotCat's suggestion list which always confuses me. Since I wonder: why the heck are there two cats describing the same. And so I always have to check if both are the same when categorizing images. That is the only annoying thing with redirs. Maybe hotcat could be changed to exclude a redir in the list if the target cat or another redir with the same target is there. Or at least mark redirs in the list. However, catredirs are probably a bad solution for internationalizing the cat system. Just imagine a category rename with dozens of redirs to it... Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they show up at HotCat (as do non-existant cats, which is even worst), so a big prolixity of redirects is indeed an issue. However, in cases like "Austrian painters" or "Municipalities of/in Brazil" it is not problematic, and is actually helpful. Anyway, if you chose the redirect instead of the real cat, Hotcat will change it automatically to the proper cat, so it is not a problem.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 04:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure, selecting the redir cat works - but if we have "Cat. A" and "Cat A2" (a redir to cat A) and I see both entries in the list an first select "Cat. A" then I do not know if Cat A2 is something slightly different which may also apply. And so I have to check it. Like "Standing men" and "Men standing" (fictive example). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 07:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Licensing

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I can't upload MPL GPL or BSD-licensed screenshots. why? Smile4ever (talk) 13:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Because the upload wizard has a limited functionality. You need to use the free screenshot option at Commons:Upload. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 19:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

... so the upload wizard should have its functionality expanded? Is such an expansion planned? Mike Peel (talk) 19:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It is lacking several other options the old forms have. Some were intentionally (by WMF) removed to make it simpler because they are used seldom and newbies do not need them (like {{PD-textlogo}} → leads to (wrong) logo uploads as own work... ;-) ) some were probably removed simply because of complexity and because the wizard is still a first (test) version (clearly mentioned at Commons:Hochladen and Commons:Upload/nl). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Name

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Upload Wizard doesn't accept DSCF...JPG file name but it accepts the HP version (HPIM...JPG). Thx. Chris.urs-o (talk) 18:15, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Catégories

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Pas mal dans l'ensemble. Assez rapide. J'aurais aimé que l'affichage des catégories permettent de descendre ou de remonter dans l'arborescence des mêmes catégories. Pourrait-on envisager que l'arborescence en détail s'incrive dans la partie droite de l'écran non utilisée ? (catégories remontées-catégorie demandée-catégories descendues) Rh-67 (talk) 03:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

illustrated by thom7gashima

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This is thom7gashima maked illustration.

 長嶋敏明 (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Derivative works?!

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There used to be an awesome wizard for uploading derivative works. Now I'm faced with answering the question "This work is entirely my own" or "this is someone else's work", when obviously it's a combination. Mcstrother (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

It's still there, at Commons:Upload. You can also deactivate the Wizard in your preferences/gadgets/Improved navigation.-- Darwin ^Ahoy! 19:01, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Works slow

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The tool works very, very slow. Cezarika1 (talk) 04:58, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

If you upload up to 10 files á 1 MB it will of course take some time. Not the tool is slow, especially your internet connection (upload rate) is slow. --Martin H. (talk) 13:43, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Error

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Got a "still checking if filename is unique" dialogue box that wouldnt go away, and so I cant actually use this upload wizard. Not nice. Andrew Jameson (talk) 12:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Peut-on ravoir l'ancienne interface?

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Français : Quelle perte de temps pour l'usager régulier. Peut-on ravoir l'ancienne interface?

English: What a waste of time for the regular user. Can we get back the old interface?

Bouchecl (talk) 15:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

The old interface is still available at Commons:Upload (it's linked as "Back to the old form" on the Wizard page). Gestumblindi (talk) 01:10, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Manually inserting licensing templates (Follow-up)

Just following up on the discussion above about being able to manually insert licenses, as the list of options in Upload Wizard is limited. Uploading with an incorrect license and then going back and fixing it is inefficient, frustrating and will lead to errors. I just wanted to follow up about the status of this issue. Thanks. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

It's high in the wishlist, but not as high as multi-file selection, which we'll probably focus on first.--Eloquence (talk) 07:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

That's fantastic. I had no expectation that it was at the top of any list - I just want to know that it is on the to-do list. Thanks, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Upload Wizard

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Wizard is great and easy to use, how about putting same type into edit function in Wikipedia Michael1952 (talk) 13:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Better integration into the editing process is definitely something we'd like to get to, once the core functionality is solid.--Eloquence (talk) 07:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Museum Photography

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There should be a convenient way to allow for the licensing of the photo itself and of the object beeing photographed. The object is usually PD-old, but if it is a 3-D object the photograph of the object needs also to be licensed. Of course you can add a {{PD-old]] manually, but the text in the description should somehow explain which of the conflicting licences applies to what. Wuselig (talk) 09:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

More forgiving please!!!

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Your uploader is very valuable. I have by now uploaded some hundreds of photos, whereas, using earlier tools I had very nearly given up on uploading! But... If I forget to title a pic correctly in such a way that it slips through, but before the last phase of the upload, then I have to do it all again!!! I have wasted hours on that. If I take too long between entering some pictures and the final update (at least I think that is the problem) then I also have to start over. More hours! I think that sometimes it has accepted ten pics in a batch, but then loops on the last upload... I still use it (with circumspection, but if anyone has ideas on improvements...!

Cheers, and thanks so far,

Jon Richfield JonRichfield (talk) 18:21, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

This is probably related to known issues with the title blacklist implementation. We're working on that this week.--Eloquence (talk) 07:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Flaw in the feedback mechanism

I provided feedback on this page via the feedback form on the upload wizard - but it didn't (as far as I could spot) tell me that it was leaving the feedback on this page, nor recommend that I watch this page for responses to my feedback, nor suggest that I look on this page for feedback on a similar topic to my question. I applaud the introduction of a method of feedback that doesn't require someone to hit the 'edit' button or come to grips with the edit interface - but if that mechanism doesn't also lead to a way to learn the feedback to that mechanism then it's not particularly useful to those providing the feedback... Mike Peel (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike, a direct link to this page should be in the feedback popup.--Eloquence (talk) 07:46, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I see it now. I think the reason I didn't spot it initially was because it's linked to on the form where you leave the comment, but once you submit then the box goes away - I would have expected a message saying something along the lines of "Thanks for your feedback; it's been left on this page; follow that page if you're interested in discussing this further." A heads-up about where the feedback will be left is good, but a reminder afterwards of where it's gone would also be useful. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm probably talking to myself but...

When I insert a flickr url on a multi-upload, it adds a CC license automatically and adds an additional licence for each additional multi-upload I make. For example: upload 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Simple fix: Stop automatically adding CC licences if the image is PD US Military. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 23:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't work

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Nothing displayed when I go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard

Tried with Firefox and Chrome. Give up. I'll upload at Picasa and let someone else upload it to Commons. Bennylin (yes?) 12:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

• Huh? (I'm on Firefox 5.0/XP) The "go" button is there, - just scroll three screens down, it's under the doodles and on the right. They call it usability. NVO (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Call it doodles or call it tutorials... You can shut off the tutorial on your next visit and your straight in the programm. With respect to uasability it should be considered, that the "Go-button" should be incorporated into the page more prominently. I could image a lot of users will also try to hit the rider "upload" at the top of the page, which is used here as a status -report only --Wuselig (talk) 17:39, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Look no further: it took yours truly around a year to get to the magic button. I guess it will take another year to understand how to paste {{Information}} and list of categories ;) NVO (talk) 02:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

In 6 iterative recent user tests with a total of 19 unique testers, not a single user actually had any problem finding the "Next" button (which is deliberately below the tutorial), nor is it clear from the original comment that this is the issue here.

Bennylin, could you clarify what you mean with "nothing displayed"? Do you get a spinner and nothing else, a blank page, ..?--Eloquence (talk) 07:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Drag and drop

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You can only drag and drop 1 file at a time. Also if you don't drag the picture exactly onto the 'select' button, it shows the picture by itself and when you press back all the other pictures that are ready to be uploaded are gone. I also uploaded 10 files and spent ages renaming them and then they got stuck on the publishing stage. There was no option to try again or go back a stage. Refreshing the page meant starting the whole wizard from the beginning. Sweetie candykim (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

New upload tool

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A much simpler process and an improvement on the older system of uploading. Martin york (talk) 10:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Why is it so slow today

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Why is it so slow today Clariosophic (talk) 18:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

indefinite hang

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In general I like the upload wizard very much. But several times it's hung indefinitely at the publish step, and I've had to start over. I also got the already noted problem of route to fix uploading a duplicate filename. Dcrjsr (talk) 22:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Uploading data on this Special page.

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I uploaded all information required to 10 photographs today, however they stayed in the submitting limbo for an hour. Is there any record of my input? Could there have possibly been a problem with this system today? Joyce lowry (talk) 23:06, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

its goog

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its goog Sujoy (talk) 05:38, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Can't go back to the learn tab

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Once dismissed, the learn section of the upload wizard is inaccessible on future uploads. Dami (talk) 11:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Name of this plant

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I want to know the name of this plant that seems to be very invasive.

Mkhouma (talk) 16:02, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Upload Wizard

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I like the idea and it works pretty well. However, it wasn't intuitive to click [Add] button after typing the category into the category field. This resulted in images being uploaded without categorisation and I had to go back. ACCassidy (talk) 17:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I did that too and it took me ages to then go into all the files I uploaded and add the categories. I would have thought it would tell me that I need to click add. I didn't realise at the time and I just typed in the category and didn't see the add button until afterwards. It shouldn't publish if there is text in the box which hasn't been 'added'. Sweetie candykim (talk) 22:59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Essingang

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Mbiama Assogo Roger Mbiama (talk) 18:54, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Media selection

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It would be a lot easier if you were able to select multiple files at the same time to upload. Currently you have to select each one individually which is both fustrating and time consuming. Jonodavies12 (talk) 00:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I noticed this too. I am sure last time I uploaded them I could shift and select upto 10, but this isn't working now. Neither is dragging the image onto the donate icon. Neither is the actual uploading for me however. It is just hanging. Sweetie candykim (talk) 23:02, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Upload

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Chargement trop long ! plus long qu'auparavant ! Rh-67 (talk) 09:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Boxschat

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chatingan Leyoor (talk) 10:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hochladen eines Bildes nicht möglich.

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Andreas Schwarzkopf (talk) 16:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)