Commons:Valued image candidates/Tour Eiffel - 20150801 13h30 (10609).jpg

Tour Eiffel - 20150801 13h30 (10609).jpg

**undecided**
Image
Nominated by	Medium⁶₉ ^{You wanted talk to me?} on 2015-12-11 13:04 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Eiffel Tower, facing southeast
Used in	Global usage
Review (criteria)	Comment Please link to the correct category, there are a lot of pictures without cut-off base. --Llez (talk) 20:42, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] Done I indicated the initial category. --Medium⁶₉ ^{You wanted talk to me?} 00:21, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] It lacks the lower part of the monument. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:53, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] Oppose Feet are cut. Yann (talk) 16:10, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] Comment: Moved to MVR (The VI submision entry will be removed from this page in 24 hours time. Please review the page here -- Martinvl (talk) 16:14, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] Comment We should compare this picture with pictures from this category (like this, or this, or this, or...), not with pictures from another category. as it is done here --Llez (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] @Llez: If we read Most valued review we see "There must be at least two candidates competing within essentially the same scope* to open an MVR." This does not say that the scopes must be identical. If we read Valued image scope#Buildings, bullet 4 we see that it is recommended that there be only one VI nomination per building showing its external view. This suggests to me that if the VI rules are to be properly followed, then all images of the Eiffel Tower from whatever direction fall within the same scope. Using Google Earth, I found that the difference in bearing for the two images was about 1.5 degrees, meaning that both were taken from the South-East. To my way of thinking, this means that both nominations are "essentially the same scope". Martinvl (talk) 08:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] Yes, but it depends also on distance and angle. The pictures from Champ de Mars are more comparable and we have there also better competitors. --Llez (talk) 08:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] @Llez: Why then does Valued image scope#Buildings, bullet 4 say that there shouLd only be one* VI that shows the exterior of a building? This means that all images of thE external view of a building should compete, regardless of angle or distance. Martinvl (talk) 08:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] @Martinvl: I don't read bullet 4 that way, as it never says there should only ever be one exterior scope. Quite the contrary in fact, it clearly says additional scopes may appropriate. DeFacto (talk). 12:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply] Scores: 1. Tour Eiffel - 20150801 13h30 (10609).jpg: 0 <-- 2. Paris, Eiffel Tower from the Tour Montparnasse, October 2010.jpg: -1 => File:Tour Eiffel - 20150801 13h30 (10609).jpg: Undecided. <-- File:Paris, Eiffel Tower from the Tour Montparnasse, October 2010.jpg: Undecided. --DeFacto (talk). 19:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]