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Tech News: 2020-12

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21:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #407

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
  • Development
    • Add monolingual codes nrf-gg (Guernésiais), nrf-je (Jèrriais), thanks to Mbch331! (phab:T165648)
    • Article Placeholder: make the entity field required (phab:T247478)
    • Remove legacy Wikibase service containers (phab:T245865)
    • Fix an error UnresolvedEntityRedirectException when viewing certain Wikidata item pages (phab:T243779)
    • Fix an issue with new edit summaries not always showing what expected (phab:T246873)
    • Federated properties: enable search with remote properties (wbsearchentities) (phab:T246349)
    • showing the updated Wikipedia article after changing a value via Bridge (phab:T235208)
    • research how to do reference rendering (phab:T244987)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Notification about possible deletion

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 
Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Yours sincerely, Yuraily Lic (talk) 04:19, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-12

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Recent changes

  •   There is a new API module for changing the content model of existing pages. Use action=changecontentmodel to specify the new model. You can read the documentation on mediawiki.org. [4]

Changes later this week

  •   The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 March. It will be on all wikis from 19 March (calendar).

Future changes

  • If you edit a page at the same time as someone else you can get an edit conflict. There is a new two-column interface to make it easier to solve this. It will soon be active by default on the German, Arabic, and Farsi Wikipedias. It will be on by default on more wikis within the next months. You will be able to opt out of the new interface. [5][6]
  • You can see a proposed design for replying to comments in an easier way.

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21:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 
Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Wuhan coronavirus notice to inport to Wikimedia Commons (e-mail 📧).

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Coronavirus outbreak in the Netherlands - Ecosia (e-mail 📧 title).

"https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=Coronavirus+outbreak+in+the+Netherlands

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:54, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Category:Netherlands_by_city_by_year

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Netherlands by city by year has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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JopkeB (talk) 16:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Chinese cash coin with "rosette 🏵 hole" (National Museums Liverpool)

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:59, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Category:Netherlands_by_city_by_year
(OLDER THAM NINE (9) DAYS.).

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
 

Netherlands by city by year has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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JopkeB (talk) 16:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Chinese cash coin with "rosette 🏵 hole" (National Museums Liverpool)
(OLDER THAN 9 (NINE) DAYS.).

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:59, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Category:Netherlands_by_city_by_year

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
 

Netherlands by city by year has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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JopkeB (talk) 16:17, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Chinese cash coin with "rosette 🏵 hole" (National Museums Liverpool)

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 16:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
 
Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Chinese huwelijskamuletten

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Dit zijn de enige Chinese amuletten waar (ik denk) dat ik er een Wikipedia artikel over kan schrijven, maar ik nog niet geschreven heb.

@Quistnix: , ik wou jou nog vragen, hoeveel Chinese amuletten heb je ongeveer en welke soorten? En denk jij dat als je een goede scanner zou hebben dat jij ze dan naar Wikimedia Commons kan uploaden? Ik wacht al jaren op de Tropenmuseum en heb niets meer van ze vernomen (zij zouden afbeeldingen van Chinese amuletten aan Wikimedia Commons doneren), ik ben zo goed als klaar met het schrijven over Chinese amuletten, maar dacht eraan om nog over Chinese huwelijksamuletten te schrijven al heb ik niet meer informatie dan wat er nu al op Wikipedia staat, heb jij toevallig nog ergens een boek of .pdf'je over Chinese huwelijksamuletten liggen? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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  The Original Barnstar
Exquisite! E tildon (talk) 02:17, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
@E tildon: , thank you.   --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Wuhan coronavirus notice to inport to Wikimedia Commons

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--Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:56, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Nieuwsbrief 90 Wikimedia Nederland

 

Nieuwsbrief van maart 2020
Gevolgen van corona-pandemie voor Wikimedia-beweging | Goede ideeën voor Wikiwerk | 2 miljoen artikelen...

Oude versies vindt u hier

Wikidata weekly summary #408

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  • Tool of the week
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Tech News: 2020-13

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  • There was a problem when adding interwiki links. The tool you use to add interwiki links could suggest the wrong project to link to. This has now been fixed. [7][8]

Changes later this week

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17:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Are 2D rubbings of coins copyrighted

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Drafting this to post it to the village pump of Wikimedia Commons.

thumb|right|The author of this file (Eduardo Toda y Güell) published this in Shanghai in the year 1882 and later died in the year 1941, because of this this file is now in the public domain.

As far as I can tell copyright © exists to protect works that are creative enough to not be considered derivative works or only simple geometrical shapes.

Coin rubbings are an odd question, at the top image the author of this file (Eduardo Toda y Güell) published it in the treaty port city of Shanghai in the year 1882 and later died in the year 1941, because of this this file is now in the public domain. But there is more to that, first (1st) of all this image is clearly a creative work of a Đinh Dynasty cash coin which had existed in the years 968–980. Second of all even if it were a more recent cash coin (the last ones circulated until the 1940's) the design of these coins are only simple geometric shapes and Traditional Chinese characters, I honestly wonder how creative the original Vietnamese design by itself is. Of course, in Mainland China (the People's Republic of China) Chinese calligraphy can be copyrighted if a letter is written in a creative enough manner, so this is a separate question.

But the main question is, are 2D derivative works of 3D objects (like coins) their own new copyright or not? If someone would draw the design of a copyrighted Euro coin would this be considered a derivative work? And if it is a derivative work, would that mean that if the original design enters the public domain that all derived works would also enter the public domain if they don't sufficiently add any creative differences? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 19:14, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

thumb|left|Of course, this does not include photographs of coins, as coins are 3D objects, just the question if a 2D design of a 3D object creates new copyright ©.

  • Of course, this does not include photographs of coins, as coins are 3D objects, just the question if a 2D design of a 3D object creates new copyright ©.
  • With parodies two (2) copyrights exist, one for the original work and one for the parody, the original artist has no control over the parody, but can block its distribution because they still hold the original copyright ©.
  • "Commons:Derivative works" states "In summary: you cannot trace someone else's copyrighted creative drawing and upload that tracing to Commons under a new, free license because a tracing is a copy without new creative content; likewise, you cannot make a movie version of a book you just read without the permission of the author, even if you added substantial creative new material to the storyline, because the movie requires the original book author's permission— if such permission were obtained, however, the movie would likely then be considered a derivative work entitled to its own novel copyright protection. "Derivative", in this sense, does not simply mean "derived from", it means, "derived from and including new creative content which is entitled to a new copyright."" which does support my hypothesis that indeed 2 (two) copyrights exists in the case of cash coin rubbings.

Wikidata weekly summary #408

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Tool of the week
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  • Development

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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