User talk:Pierre André Leclercq/Archive 3

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Yours sincerely, Storkk (talk) 12:14, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Francais: Bonjour Storkk vous avez listé un grand nombre de mes fichiers. A ma décharge, j'en ai téléchargé beaucoup dans la campagne de sensibilisation "Liberté de panorama" lancé en mai 2016 par wikicommons en France et donc que j'ai black-listés.

Les Epeutnaerts sont de curieux épouvantails en paille, en fer forgé, en bouteilles plastiques ou encore en branchages, qui mois d'avril donnent lieu à des réjouissance dans le village de Moringhem, et qui sont destinés à être brûles à la fin du festival le 30 Avril. Peut-on les classer comme des oeuvres d'art? Cordialement.-

English: you have listed a lot of my files. In my defense, I have downloaded many in the awareness campaign "panorama of Liberty" launched in 2016 by wikicommons in France and therefore I have black-listed.

The Epeutnaerts are curious scarecrows straw, wrought iron, plastic bottles or in branches, which in April lead to rejoicing in the village of Moringhem, which are intended to burn end of the festival on 30 April. Can we classify them as works of art? Cordially.---Pierre André (talk) 21:31, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

To keep the discussion in one place, I suggest commenting directly on the DR page. In short, France's threshold of originality is quite low and a work is copyrightable in France if it "bears the imprint of the personality of the author". You can read more, in French, here. I am not aware of any provision holding that works intended to be destroyed or otherwise temporary lose their copyright, so yes I think they are copyrighted art (even if the artists aren't aware). As an aside, and as I stated before, I think you have contributed a lot of great work here, and the DRs are not in any way meant to denigrate your work - I just think some files are problematic for Commons because we only host files that anybody can legally use, and we really strive to make sure that re-users won't get into trouble. I hope the DR will not discourage you from contributing! Storkk (talk) 21:49, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Storkk (talk) 12:51, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Storkk (talk) 14:06, 16 Ju

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Yours sincerely, Storkk (talk) 15:09, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Suppression d'images...

Salut Pierre-André.

Certaines de tes photos d'Épona ont été supprimés.

As-tu essayé de contacter l'association qui s'occupe de cette géante afin de savoir si cette "œuvre" est dans le domaine public en leur transmettant le lien vers la page OTRS ? N'as-tu pas eu les "boules" que seuls tes fichiers aient été supprimée et pas tous les autres représentant des Géants ? Est-ce normal qu'il n'y aurait qu'Épona qui ne soit pas libre de droits alors que tous les autres le seraient ?

À mon avis, il y a un lézard quelque part.

Perso, je me serais posé des questions et je l'aurais posée sur le Bistro, parce qu'il n'y a pas de raisons valable pour que ce ne soient que ces fichiers, et pas les autres qui aient été supprimés...

Mais chacun voit midi à sa porte... Néanmoins, tu peux toujours faire cette demande à l'asso. et faire une demande de restauration si elle répond positivement à l'OTRS.

Bonnes vacances si tu y es  . --LW² \m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 21:05, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Salut LW² \m/ ,   Thank you. pour ton sympathique message. Ces photos (comme beaucoup d'autres) ont été ciblées par l'administrateur anglais "Storkk", que je ne connais pas. Je lui ai expliqué que j'étais dans l'équipe dirigeante à l'origine du projet de ce géant, pour lequel nous avons demandé la réalisation à un plasticien. Il a bien voulu admettre quelques photos du géant après avoir apposé la mention d'un "Copyright holder of sculpture". Ce même administrateur a retoqué également, des "épouvantails" (epeutnaerts) destinés à faire le feu de joie du village (voir discussion plus haut)... ainsi que des automates réalisés avec des matériaux de récupération, par un habile "bricoleur", qui n'a aucune prétention artistique.
N'aimant pas faire des polémiques, j'ai plus de 71 ans, je laisse courir. J'ai adhéré à l'asso pour son côté pédagogique (on apprend à tout age) et ludique. C'est dans cet esprit, du reste, qu'à la suite d'un accrochage avec un administrateur russe, je ne dépose plus de photos dans la catégorie "quality image" . Systématiquement mes photos étaient discréditées par lui, quand bien même elles avaient déjà été validées...
Mes vacances sont prévues pour fin septembre (stage de randonnées) et un second module d'une dizaine de jours en octobre pour un retour dans l'ouest des USA. Bonnes vacances à toi également. --Pierre André (talk) 22:16, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
C'est bien dommage... Il n'est pas question de polémique mais, d'après ce que tu me dis, de lutter contre le zèle de certains admins qui se croient tout permis de par leur statut... Mais, bon, « C'est vous qui voyez... ».
Merci à toi et bons voyages, alors  . --LW² \m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 22:40, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

File:Loon-Plage musée des jeux traditionnels (3).JPG

 
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Viewdusk (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Chassipress (talk) 12:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Amiens tour Auguste Perret WLM2017 (2).jpg

 
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VIGNERON (talk) 17:39, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Participation au concours Wiki Loves Monuments 2017

Bonjour et merci pour votre participation à Wiki Loves Monuments.

Cependant, la photographie File:Amiens tour Auguste Perret WLM2017 (2).jpg représente un monument encore couvert par le droit d'auteur (son architecte, Auguste Perret, étant mort en 1954). Elle a donc malheureusement dû être retirée du concours.

N’hésitez pas à ajouter d’autres clichés, en vérifiant que l'édifice peut être librement photographier.

Bonne participation, cordialement, VIGNERON (talk) 17:43, 1 September 2017 (UTC)


J'ai bien peur que ce soit aussi le cas pour vos photos du même ensemble :

J'en demande donc la suppression. Cordialement Jvillafruela (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Bonjour Jvillafruela.
Dans ce cas, et en toute logique, pourquoi ne pas demander aussi la suppression de tous les fichiers de la Category:Tour Perret (Amiens), histoire de mettre tout le monde sur le même pied d'égalité ? Mais, néanmoins, File:18.03.06 Amiens BB116058 (6100995321).jpg, File:Amiens tour Auguste Perret WLM2017 (2).jpg, File:Amiens.jpg, File:AmiensTourPerret.jpg, File:B15026R sur une rame TER Picardie.JPG, File:B82669-670-Amiens.JPG, File:BB67618-Amiens.JPG, File:BB67620-Amiens.JPG, File:La gare d'Amiens vue par dessus les marquises.JPG, File:Tour Perret Amiens.jpg, File:Tour Perret et gare au coucher de soleil.jpg et File:Un des très très rare TGV à Amiens.JPG rentrent dans le cadre de minimis, comme cette photo que tu viens de mettre en DR et dont le sujet principal (au centre de la photo, donc) est un immeuble tout à fait banal et qui, petit comme il est, ne peut cacher une aussi imposante tour...
Dans la même logique, il faudrait aussi faire supprimer, par exemple, toutes les vues intérieures de la gare Montparnasse car ses aménagements ont autant de caractère que la verrière de celle d'Amiens et toujours couverts par le droit d'auteur...
  LW² \m/ (Lie ² me...) 22:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Bonjour Jvillafruela et Llann Wé²,
Je viens d'ouvrir une demande de suppression globale Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Tour Perret (Amiens) (je n'avais pas vu que la catégorie contenait autant de fichiers et surtout autant de fichiers où le Commons:De minimis me semble être difficilement à invoquer).
Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:38, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Bonjour VIGNERON. Je crois que tu exagères un tout petit peu : les images que j'ai mentionnées ci-dessus entrent dans le de minimis car il me semble impossible de ne pas avoir un bout de cette tour dans le cadre, comme la tour Montparnasse ou la tour Bretagne car elles dépassent largement au dessus de l'horizon... Pour les phots où le cadrage est effectivement centré sur un de ces monuments, je suis d'accord pour l'absence de de minimis car ça en fait le sujet principal de la photo.   LW² \m/ (Lie ² me...) 00:39, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Si tu pense que j'exagère, n'hésite pas à le préciser et à l'appuyer par des arguments sur la demande de suppression, c'est là-bas que la discussion doit se dérouler, pas ici. Pour information, je n'ai pas demandé la suppression de toute les images de la catégorie, uniquement de celles où la Tour occupait un place importante qui ne me semblait pas fortuite. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 07:34, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

File:Amiens.-Gare SNCF.jpg

 
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Jvillafruela (talk) 21:42, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

File:Amiens tour Auguste Perret WLM2017.jpg

 
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Jvillafruela (talk) 21:43, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Bonjour VIGNERON, et Jvillafruela je me range totalement à l'avis de Llann Wé², la tour Auguste Perret entre dans le "de minimis". Il me semble impossible de ne pas avoir un bout de cette tour quelque soit le lieu où l'on se trouve sur 1e Boulevard de Beauville à Amiens. Cordialement.--Pierre André (talk) 20:55, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

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