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My formal name is James L. Woodward, but I prefer to be called "Jim"
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- Questions about open Deletion Requests should be made at the DR. I have copied your question there and responded. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 09:55, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Because I didn't expect outright deletion so soon, but moving it to Wikipedia instead. Would it then be more feasible to reupload the file to Wikipedia under the fair use provision? -Mardus /talk 11:02, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- The DR was open for a week, which is the prescribed time. Very few DRs stay open longer now that we have our backlog under control. I hope it stays that way.
- I don't know the WP:EN rules on Fair Use well enough to know for sure. If you choose to go that way, then you should upload directly from Flickr, not from Commons. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- The English Wikipedia is about the only Wikipedia that permits screenshots of proprietary software and websites, and I've successfully uploaded a few images there. The original notice image been deleted from Commons already, and the Flickr2Commons tool only uploads to Commons (AFAIK), and not Wikipedia proper. Uploading to Wikipedia would require a manual upload. I'll see if I can find alternative photos of notices that are more public (as in Public Domain) and less original in their layout and communication. -Mardus /talk 17:33, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- As I said in the DR closing, the problem is not the software or icons, the problem is that the text is copyrighted. In the USA a single sentence or more of text has a copyright, so the only notices of this sort that could be kept on Commons are ones that were clearly written by Federal employees in the course of their work or were otherwise PD or licensed. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:12, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Jail / PrisonEdit
Every time I discover something fascinating. What's the correct - formal - name for a correction institute? Either jail, prison or penitentiary? To give you an example, we use the Italian equivalent of "jail" as vernacular, "prison" as colloquial in polite company, and "penitentiary" in formal - official speech. Are there any difference, at least in the U.S., between a "Jail", a "Prison" and a "Penitentiary"? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:14, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Essentially, you go to jail until your trial, then you go to prison. https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31513 and http://sheriff.org/faqs/displayfaq.cfm?id=4f892698-5c5d-40f8-b159-c9a0b6ed66f3 would give a more nuanced take on the US difference between Jail and Prison, and "penitentiary" is North American for "serious prison". Beware of the UK alternative spelling of gaol for jail. Storkk (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- I mostly agree, thanks, Storkk. I think it may be a little more subtle, and I suspect there are regional differences across the fifty states and, of course, across the Atlantic. Here in Boston, jails are one of the few functions of the counties and are run by Sheriffs. They are typically used for pre-trial detention and short sentences after conviction. Prisons serve for longer detentions after trial.
- If you were awaiting trial for a federal crime I'm not sure the word "jail" applies. After conviction in Federal Court, the criminal goes to a United States Penitentiary (serious crime, high security), a Federal Correctional Institution (medium security), or a Federal Prison Camp (minimal security, white collar crime. All three could be called "prisons" although the latter are often referred to as "country clubs". . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:53, 20 October 2016 (UTC)