Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives February 13 2015

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File:Wiev_of_cathedral_of_Sutri.JPG

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File:Dodge_Charger_Magnum_Six-Pack_de_1970,_Helsinki,_Finlandia,_2012-08-14,_DD_01.JPG

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  • Nomination Dodge Charger Magnum Six-Pack of 1970, Helsinki, Finnland --Poco a poco 19:51, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Good quality. --Tobias "ToMar" Maier 12:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment. It is sharp but it is not a good image of a car for me. Once because of the short focal distance and further because of the disturbing information plate. The reflexes in the Gulf-plate are disturbing too. -- Spurzem 22:36, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Quite a bit of CA, noticably on the number plate, and aliasing. --Mattbuck 15:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment   New version with several improvements Poco a poco 20:54, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
    That is indeed better. Shame about the rope though.   Support Mattbuck 23:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Good quality. --PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 15:05, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 0 oppose →   Promoted   --C messier 17:49, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Berndie 11062014 443.jpg

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  • Nomination An adult York Chocolate male cat, Poertschach, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:58, 04 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Support Good quality. --Code 04:59, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I disagree - not really sharp, though I will admit that cats are annoying to photograph. --Mattbuck 15:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Contrast and saturation overdone for me, it looks pretty unnatural. The entirely blown central part of the largest whisker to the left is telling of overprocessing. Motion blur on the head. --Kreuzschnabel 13:55, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Good quality. --Dnalor 01 16:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per others --Christian Ferrer 17:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Declined Code 06:25, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

File:2014_Reliktowy_Park_Narodowy_Rica,_Mleczny_Wodospad_(03).jpg

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  • Nomination Milk Waterfall. Ritsa Relict National Park, Gudauta District, Abkhazia. --Halavar 14:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Oppose unsharp/blurred, overexposed water --Christian Ferrer 18:22, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment Overexposed water? Could you tell we which software show you that? Maybe a printscreen? I would like to know on what base you said that the water is overexposed. Halavar 18:59, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  • The water have been burned out (no visible details, only white) because of overexposition, maybe now the histograme is correct or acceptable, but it change nothing that the camera did not register any informations for these areas, hope it help --Christian Ferrer 19:16, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Good quality. --Dnalor 01 16:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per Christian. Overexposure is not the same as white. Mattbuck 00:24, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Declined Code 06:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Nádraží Náchod 7.jpg

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  • Nomination A ČSD Class 423.0 arrives from Náchod station (Czech Republic). --Daniel Holý CZ 14:36, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Support Good quality--PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 14:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
    • It has CAs and IMO it's titled CW and perspective is not done.   Oppose Until it is fixed.--C messier 15:18, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
      PS: is it a work of a wikimedian? --C messier 15:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
      •   CommentI have seen many photos that have been published by this author in Wikipedia--PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 16:31, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
        •   Comment A wikipedian is not necessarily a wikimedian too. The Commons user account should be specified. --Kreuzschnabel 13:32, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
          •   Comment Thanks you. for this précision that I did not knew --PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 11:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Agree with C messier. Lots of CA and tilt. But both these flaws can be fixed. --Halavar 19:05, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per Halavar. Mattbuck 00:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Declined Code 06:48, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Techelsberg Sankt Martin 3 Kaplanei 31012015 718.jpg

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  • Nomination Chaplain`s house at Saint Martin #3, Techelsberg, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:55, 04 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Good quality. --Hubertl 08:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Fair amount of overexposure. --Mattbuck 23:02, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Good quality. --Code 08:32, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Good quality. -- Spurzem 11:53, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose overexposed --Christian Ferrer 18:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support QI for me. --Milseburg 18:31, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support --Ralf Roletschek 23:07, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support --PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 22:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support --Dnalor 01 16:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 7 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Promoted Code 06:32, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Тепе-Оба 03.JPG

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  • Nomination Crimean Feodosia winter scene (by Слава Леонтьев) –Be..anyone 23:39, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Breathtaking stunning photograph. --Johann Jaritz 04:17, 04 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment ok but all the verticals are leaning to the left so it is tilted to the left --Christian Ferrer 06:30, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment If a picture has got to turn and the autor is not available, why don´t you do it by yourself? It´s a wiki! I did it now.--Hubertl 17:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support -- Spurzem 06:27, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose with a second look I'm not abble to see any tilt?! however now I think it's too unsharp, blurred and with color noise --Christian Ferrer 18:36, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I think the colour noise needs fixing, and it needs to be bluer. Mattbuck 00:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support --Palauenc05 08:50, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Early in the morning at sunrise or befor sunset, even snow can be redish. --Hubertl 21:18, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 4 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Promoted Code 06:39, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Ebenthal Zell Gurnitz Freiwillige Feuerwehr 17112006 02.jpg

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  • Nomination Fire station at Zell-Gurnitz, Ebenthal, Carinthia, Austria --Johann Jaritz 03:36, 03 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Support Good quality.--NoRud 09:22, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment I disagree,there are reddish fringes on the left side and magenta fringes on the right side. Easy to fix. Beside that, it"s really a nice photo. As soon as the fringes are gone, you can consider to have my full support. --Cccefalon 14:33, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I´m sorry, but I am sure, it is not fixable. There are some other, severe distortions especially on the right side. (sensor lines from the old camera?)--Hubertl 22:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose - Hibertl is right, there is significant grain. Mattbuck 00:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
      Comment Interesting indeed, I haven´t seen this before...--Hubertl 21:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose →   Declined   --Hubertl 07:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Chao_Say_Tevoda,_Angkor,_Camboya,_2013-08-16,_DD_03.JPG

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  • Nomination Chao Say Tevoda, Angkor, Cambodia --Poco a poco 19:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion   Oppose Insufficient quality. Oversharpened and strong CAs at the left. --XRay 11:21, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
      Fixed Poco a poco 22:20, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
      Comment Sorry, there are still CAs. I put a note to the image.--XRay 05:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
    I had now problems to see them, but maybe with this new version it is fine for you Poco a poco 20:04, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
      Support That's fine. :-) --XRay 17:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
    Sorry Diego, not QI to me. Overexposure of the sky (albeit perhaps unavoidable), unsharpness at edges, and that tree top left looks rather odd (though that may be reality at fault). --Mattbuck 23:40, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per Mattbuck --Christian Ferrer 18:13, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support In my own experience, I know that overexposure of the sky is unavoidable in this place. --PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 11:55, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
    I don't really like the "unavoidable" argument at QI. Just because we do everything right as photographer/editor, doesn't mean it's necessarily QI. (Feel free to use my words against me in future). Mattbuck 00:01, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
    No doubt, but the photo was taken at 11:18, and the sun is already shining--PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 09:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
    And that is completely irrelevant. Reality can quite easily cause images to not be QI, at no fault of the photographer. Sometimes it is not possible to produce a QI given the conditions, but we do not take extenuating circumstances into account here. We're not awarding marks for effort but for result. Mattbuck 00:15, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support QI for me. --Dnalor 01 16:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose I have no interest in the sky so burnt out clods ain't an issue for me even if the original had a better looking sky. But the corners are unsharp, is it straigtened or due to the lens? - Averater 07:21, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose →   Promoted   --Hubertl 07:02, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Fountain_of_the_Garden_Square_in_Vatican.jpg

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  • Nomination Fountain of the Garden Square in Vatican --Livioandronico2013 21:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
    Not very sharp. Mattbuck 11:08, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •   Support In my eyes the sharpness could be better but it's still acceptable considering the size of the image. Mattbuck is it ok for you if I promote this image or should we send it to CR? --Code 18:52, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose CR please - this isn't QI as is, and I'm not sure it's repairable. Mattbuck 23:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Distracting background. Hard to distinguish between the fountain and what's behind. - Averater 07:10, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Not sharp enough. --Steindy 01:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Declined Code 08:12, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Castle Combe Circuit MMB F5 750MC Toyota MR2 Championship.jpg

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  • Nomination Castle Combe Toyota racing. Mattbuck 07:51, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Decline   Support ok --Christian Ferrer 06:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
    Request for delisting
    Spurzem mentioned this on the talk page, as a sarcastic example of a quality image. Having looked at this photo again, I agree. With all respect to Pleclown Christian Ferrer, this should not have been promoted, and I request it be delisted. Mattbuck 19:34, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
    @ Mattbuck: You are wrong. It is not this photo which I mentioned. -- Spurzem 20:17, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
    Sorry, got it right now. Guess two images with similar names got promoted that day. Mattbuck 20:36, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Comment   Oppose Agreed, this does by no means comply with QI standards (never seen it before, but then you cannot follow all nominations here). Is there a delisting procedure at all? I thought it was once QI, forever QI. --Kreuzschnabel 07:00, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
    There is no delisting procedure, but it's always been part of my understanding of QI, it just never happens. I think I maybe recall it happening once before? Mattbuck 08:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Agreed, according to image guidelines, the standards are missed. I added the oppose tag to Kreuzschnabels comment. --Cccefalon 15:15, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
@ Kreuzschnabel: Ich habe das Bild nur „hervorgekramt“, weil sowohl der Bildautor als auch der Juror inzwischen (oder sogar schon länger?) äußerst hohe Maßstäbe an die Fotos anderer legen. Es geht mir keineswegs darum, die Auszeichnung aberkennen zu lassen, obwohl ich mich im Dezember 2013 schon sehr wunderte, dass dieses Bild ein Qualitätsbild sein sollte. Gruß -- Spurzem 15:20, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Das ist mir klar, deshalb ging meine Frage nach der delisting procedure auch an Matt, nicht an dich. Er hat das Bild ja hier zur Diskussion gestellt. --Kreuzschnabel 06:56, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose random snapshot and not QI for me. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 09:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Declined   --Alchemist-hp (talk) 09:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Deux cigognes nid.JPG

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  • Nomination Two storks on their nest in winter 0x010C 13:09, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Very nice and good quality. -- Spurzem 13:15, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Noticable CA in the nest, lacks sharpness on the rear bird. --Mattbuck 22:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
  Comment Perhaps it is not allowed to be good because of my vote above. But this image is very good! -- Spurzem 15:03, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose Sharpness not good enough to be a QI --Hockei 16:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose per Mattbuck --Christian Ferrer 17:48, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Can not see CA, but very slight fringe at some small areas with high contrast, which is absolutely not disturbing in 100% view. Also sharpness acceptable in 100% view. Very nice composition, and colors. -- Smial 09:55, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support good for QI. CA is marginal or unvisible. --Alchemist-hp 09:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support--Palauenc05 08:47, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support awesome --Billy69150 11:53, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support Per Palauenc05.- it's good for me.--PIERRE ANDRE LECLERCQ 14:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Support It is 24 Mpixels, quite a lot more than the minimum 2. A dowsample would take care of the mentioned problems but wouldn't make it any better. --Averater 13:37, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 6 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose →   Promoted   --C messier 14:02, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

File:Kirschblüte mit Biene (2007-04-06).JPG

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  • Nomination A bee at sweet cherry flower -- Spurzem 23:21, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Promotion
  •   Support Good quality. --Hubertl 23:37, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose clipped whites are not quality for me --Christian Ferrer 09:36, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
    • I don't understand what you mean. Would you kindly explain? -- Spurzem 10:49, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
      • Yes I can, some of the white petals are overexposed and have burned out, it means that the camera did not register any details for these areas so it's not fixable. It's an issue for the quality level of the image but of course it's only my opinion, others can think and think it's acceptable. --Christian Ferrer 10:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
        •   Done -- Spurzem 12:58, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   weak oppose I quite like it but expect a nomination of less than 6 mpix to be crisp sharp, and this one isn’t. While the bee might be perfectly focused it still shows some motion blur. --Kreuzschnabel 07:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Schade! Die jetzt fehlenden Pixel gingen wahrscheinlich durch das Bildbearbeitungsprogramm von Microsoft verloren, mit dem ich einige Jahre arbeitete. Mein Pech! Und was die Unschärfe betrifft: Ich habe mir das Bild mit auf 10 cm vergrößerter Biene angeschaut – immerhin erscheint das Tierchen dann geringfügig größer als in Wirklichkeit – und sehe es tatsächlich nicht mehr ganz scharf. Aber bevor ich die Nominierung zurückziehe, will ich ein wenig warten, ob nicht vielleicht doch noch der eine oder andere die Aufnahme zwar nicht exzellent, aber doch brauchbar (QI) findet. Gruß -- Spurzem 10:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Die Meßlatte für Insektenaufnahmen liegt hier ganz schön hoch. Schau dir mal die existierenden QIs an. Beispiel: File:Andrena_savignyi_female_1.jpg ähnelt im Aufbau deiner Nomination etwas, zeigt das Tier jedoch in einer ganz anderen Detailfülle. Ich habe vor Jahren eher zufällig eine Biene im Anflug auf eine Löwenzahnblüte erwischt, glaube aber nicht, daß es hier durchkäme (abgesehen davon, daß es zu klein ist) --Kreuzschnabel 16:20, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Nun geht es hier aber nicht um die Featured Pictures, sodass man sich fragen darf, warum die Messlatte für Insektenfotos so viel höher liegen muss als in anderen Bereichen, in denen manch Schwaches bereitwillig durchgewinkt wird. Warum sollte zum Beispiel Dein Foto von der Biene im Anflug auf die Blüte nicht QI sein. Wer selbst versucht hat, ein solches Bild zu machen, wird die Qualität zu schätzen wissen. -- Spurzem 17:48, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Die Meßlatte wird ja von niemandem bewußt dahin gelegt. Sie legt sich durch die existierenden QIs selbst. Ich finde das gar nicht schlecht, weil es unseren Ehrgeiz befeuert, hier richtig gute Bilder hochzuladen :-) --Kreuzschnabel 04:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
  •   Oppose - Overexposed, some CA. Mattbuck 08:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
@ Mattbuck: I did not await any other vote from you. But I can only say: Laughable! Flowers of cherries are even white and not black. -- Spurzem 09:21, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
You're right, cherry blossom is (generally) white, and I do not complain about the presence of pure white pixels, I complain about the fact there are areas of pure white, which means information is lost. Also there are significant haloes, and DOF means the bee is not fullt in focus. You have however corrected the CA. Mattbuck 00:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Please look to the new version. -- Spurzem 06:25, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

@Jebulon: Very interesting. You saw a new version and not the same as the other opposers but you have the same reasons for opposing as they. -- Spurzem 21:47, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
The new version is still not convincing me, sorry.--Jebulon 23:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Total: 5 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose →   Promoted   --Hubertl 07:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)