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Foto D'elia

¿Quedó demostrada la propiedad?. Para mi no porque no es una calidad de imagen de cámara digital. Alakasam (talk) 22:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/c/cc/20091117164750!LuisDelia.jpg ahi esta la foto original. Me parece que habria una animosidad especial por parte de Alakasam (tal vez al referirte a mis fotos anteriores eliminadas, tal vez al decir que la foto no es de suficiente calidad, el caso es que la foto esta bajada de calidad por mi mismo, para que sea mas facil subirla con mi pobre conexion de internet)Gracias por entender claramente que la foto es mia y no tengo intenciones de falsear datos. En el pasado me han eliminado fotos por no demostrarlas convenientemente, aunque si eran mias, o por haberlas modificado y algunos no entendian eso como trabajo propio, con lo que deje de hacerlo. Ahora ya no se si seguir subiendo material a commons, tengo fotos de hebe de bonafini, que imagino seran intentadas de eliminar por alguna gente porque su calidad no es suficiente. Me parece que si la foto YO digo que la saque yo, y no esta en ningun lado publicada, y es de MI camara, que mas? o tendre que hacer una pagina de flickirt o de picasa para ahi subir las fotos, poner abajo la licencia, y darla como link? --Pruxo (talk) 15:31, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

El problema surge en que la cantidad de pixeles no es un estándar. Los celulares antiguos sacaban en 640*480 y de ahi mejoro 800*600 1024*768 2048*1536 y así. Esta imagen tiene una cantidad de pixeles fuera de norma. Alakasam (talk) 17:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Ya explique que baje la calidad de pixeles, no es la calidad original. La foto ademas NO esta sacada con celular, estuvo sacada con camara Panasonic, como explica el adjunto del archivo. La mande en un email a varios amigos, y la baje luego de ese email, de ese atach. Tal vez por eso haya bajado la calidad. Si te digo que es mía, es mía, nunca vas a tener un problema con otro. Tengo la serie completa, varias fotos de esa noche, etc. --Pruxo (talk) 17:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Que suba la original porque para mi no está demostrada la autoría. Alakasam (talk) 23:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Yo si la cosa no es clara prefiero borrar sinceramente, aunque bueno si vos no dudás de la identidad lo dejamos ahí. Alakasam (talk) 00:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Belgrano; gracias por tu buena fe, Ya subi la foto con mas resolucion. Estaba pesadisima! y ya puse otra vez el recorte de d ´elia. Suelo bajar de resolucion las fotos porque no quiero estar una eternidad subiendo fotos tan pesadas. Tengo otras de personajes politicos , y otras cosas sacadas por mi, y que no subi aun a commons, pero este caso me dejo bastante triste, no se si tengo ganas de andar demostrando mi inocencia ante cada subida. Como vos decis, me borraron un monton de fotos, dibujos, banderas, hace tiempo, y por desconocimiento y vagancia mía en andar demostrando autorias, etc. un abrazo. --Pruxo (talk) 20:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Obvio que tenés que demostrar tu ¡autoria!, no tu inocencia. Alakasam (talk) 01:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Por eso te dije que si vos la considerabas buena yo también. Igual te quiero decir que me ha pasado de desconfiar de fotos subidas bien de flickr pero que al final de cuentas era robada y lo denuncié y la borraron. Alakasam (talk) 17:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Sobre "Fotos desaparecidas"

Por si no ha visto mi agradecimiento por aportar a la solución de mi problema: ¡muchas gracias!. Un saludo argentino y cordial, --JuanSarto (talk) 00:08, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia

Quedé perplejo mal mal cuando vi que te expulsaron. Realmente no lo veo correcto, no fue nada grave tu comentario en la apuesta y lo de los votos bueno para analizarlo pero viniendo de vos era como para suavisar la cosa. Sinceramente pienso que uno siempre vive intimado por los bibliotecarios. La otra vez en una consulta de borrado uno que no me acuerdo el nombre, a raiz de que taché votos injustificados (tipo Que se mantenga porque me parece bien), dijo al final de todo "espero que no se repita" como que tremenda prerrogativa sobre el accionar y que uno tiene que tener miedo. No se no se. Alakasam (talk) 22:21, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Más laburo

Te dejo un post que te dejaron en tu discusión en la wiki

Fotos en Estudiantes de La Plata

te dejo la lista de fotos registradas, con permiso del dueño enviado por mail.

está acá [1] al final de la discusión. son 13 o 14, no recuerdo.

me mandaron a vos para que le incluyas la autorización y evitar un posible borrado.

espero esté todo correcto. cargarlas llevó mucho tiempo

saludos--Cazadoroculto (discusión) 14:03 23 nov 2009 (UTC)

Alakasam (talk) 22:23, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Faltas de ortografía

¿Y quién le ha dicho a ese usuario que el mero hecho de escribir con faltas de ortografía es un sabotaje? El sabotaje no es escribir con faltas de ortografía sino, algo bien diferente, el cometerlas en forma sistemática e intencionada, como quedó claro con mi descripción del asunto. Veo que sigues con la costumbre de retorcer los argumentos de los demás para que así, transformados a tu imagen y convenciencia, te sea más fácil "rebatirlos"; eso demuestra bastante claramente en mi opinión que aún no parece que hayas meditado mucho sobre tus errores o, lo que sería peor aún, que estás orgulloso de ellos... ferbr1 (talk) 09:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanos, no pretenderás que me rebaje a discutir este tema al nivel que te encanta hacerlo, ¿verdad? Leete (o empollate, como prefieras; y por cierto, empollate qué significa "empollar" en el habla de España, así no ves groserías donde no las hay, ¿eh?) la palabrita drae:sabotaje, y descubrirás que su aplicación ha sido rigurosa. Si las faltas de ortografía son sistemáticas y voluntarias, eso se llama sabotaje, independientemente de las descripciones falaces que se puedan hacer del asunto. Saluditos. ferbr1 (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC) PD) Ah, y sobre tus "advertencias"... En fin, Thialfi, un poquito de elegancia, ¿eh?...

File:Cucaracha.jpg

Hi Belgrano,

Yes, I know for sure this is a character of a French cartoon. The cartoon is published in this magazine fr:Science & Vie Junior. I've just found the official website of the cartoon : http://www.cucaracha.fr/html/menu.html. Please restore the speedy deletion request.

Thanks. Peter17 (talk) 02:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

File:Gral Cárdenas+Dip Menéndez 010939.jpg

Hola Belgrano, Has borrado el file de referencia. Argumentas para hacerlo alguna contradicción en la información del propio file: (Copyright violation: the uploader has no rights over this picture. He clearly states that it was taken from Centro de Estudios de Historia de México, a research center, and then links it to a blog in Blogspot when a GFDL license is purpoted). Quiero decirte que no hay tal contradicción. Ambas aseveraciones son ciertas y demostrables. El dato del Centro de Estudios de Historia de México fácilmente comprobable, fue aportado para dar información acerca de dónde podría encontrarse el file original. La referencia al Blog que libera la imagen (que también contiene la información del Centro Estudios de Historia de México) Menéndez y Menéndez.com es asimismo comprobable. Una fotografía del Diputado Menéndez con el Gral. Cárdenas liberando sus derechos en la red y en el blog propio (Menéndez y Menéndez), nos permite presuponer ampliamente un uso legítimo del derecho de autor de la fotografía, no te parece? Creo que la eliminación del file que has hecho debería ser revertida y te solicito que la consideres. --Comvaser (talk) 17:06, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Fui yo hizo la petición de borrado y he estado tratando de explicarle lo de las licencias, pero al parecer no está muy familiarizado con las leyes de autor. Ha dejado algunos mensajes en mi página, pero traté de concentrarla en su página de discusión para darle seguimiento. La imagen no está en el dominio público. - Esteban Zissou (talk) 21:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Estimado Belgrano. En respuesta a tu comentario en mi pág de discusión: Me explico. Yo hice referencia al Centro de Estudios porque ahí se encuentra un expediente que contiene documentos y una copia de la fotografía del Diputado Menéndez con el General Cárdenas de 1929. De donde tomé la licencia de publicación (es decir el permiso de uso de la foto que a mi entender es lo que requiere Commons), así se dice en el File que integré y que borraste, fue del Blog que contiene la biografía y los datos del propio Diputado. Te lo vuelvo a citar porque a mi manera de ver la licencia está ahí explícitada por el propio Sr Menéndez: Menéndez y Menéndez.com, razón por la cual decidí subir el archivo a Commons y que después se usó en la Wikipedia desde hace meses. Puedo entender que tal vez el File que integré para subir a Commons la foto fue imperfecto, y que eso te condujo a pensar en una cierta contradicción, pero esos son los datos que apoyarían la admisión a Commons de la foto, como ocurrió desde que subí la foto hasta ahora en que has decidido eliminarla. Gracias por responder con propiedad y por considerar mi solicitud.--Comvaser (talk) 23:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Belgrano. En efecto. El propio Blog lo dice. Rodolfo Menéndez, hijo de Miguel Angel Menéndez. Ver aquí Saludos--Comvaser (talk) 03:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

¿como subir fotos Flickr?

Hola wikicompañero:

Soy editor en Wikipedia desde hace algún tiempo con mi user de wiki, pero esta es mi primera incursión en Commons. Bueno voy al grano. La cuestión es que he visto la posibilidad de ilustrar varios articulos de diversos pueblos de la provincia de Huelva (mi provincia en españa)y pensé en darme de alta en commons y subir algunas que tengo. He subido una foto e investigando he visto que tambien se pueden subir fotos de Flickr(http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=esfromflickr).

Pues bien como edito en articulos de toda mi provincia y es dificil buscar el tiempo para desplazarme a otros municipios, y hacer las fotos para ilustrar los artículos, empezé a ver que tipo de archivos y como se puede subir a Commons para usarlas en los artículos que pretendo ilustrar, pero no consigo saber como. He buscado entre los biblios de commons y resulta que eres de los primeros con idioma español, por eso acudo a ti.

¿Podrias comentarme como puedo usar un albun interesante que he encontrado en flickr, y que según creo tiene las características que exige Commons? El albun es (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44376903@N03/), concretamente entre sus albunes el de sitios de huelva (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44376903@N03/sets/72157622751910940/).

Un saludo y gracias--ANTONIOGA (talk) 22:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, muchas gracias haré el intento.--ANTONIOGA (talk) 18:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Posible revisión de archivos Flickr

Hola de nuevo y perdón por las molestias. Me gustaría que cuando tengas un rato le eches un ojo a las fotos subidas, para ver si están correctas. las he metido en una categoria que existía de la Provincia album con fotos. Un saludo y gracias.--ANTONIOGA (talk) 22:52, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Re/ Juan Pedro Aguirre

The image File:Juan Pedro Aguirre.jpg is in public domain as it represents a 150+ year old portrait.

File:Bicicritica abril 08.jpg

¿Cómo es que me escribes en inglés? ¡No te reconocía! :)

Al asunto, el mensaje lo enviaron el día 7 y decía "I hereby assert that I am the creator of the file http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bicicritica_abril_08.jpg and I agree to publish that work under the free license CC-BY-SA". Sin embargo no lo gestionamos hasta el 20. Contesté explicando que teníamos que reconocer el autor y, dado que el retraso fue nuestro, restauré la imagen dándole de nuevo el plazo. Pero no ha contestado. Puedes borrarla, o intenta contactar de nuevo si prefieres. Platonides (talk) 22:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Template:PD Colombia

Hello Belgrano,

would you please do me a favour and delete the redirect. I wanted to exchange PD Colombia for PD-Colombia and than convert the first to a redirect. Thus I moved it to PD-Colombia. Now this is only half done. Cheers --Cwbm (commons) (talk) 19:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Pregunta de licencias

Hola Belgrano. La imagen [[File:Guerra de Castas.JPG]] acabo de subirla. Yo tomé la foto de un libro llamado Los mayas. Una civilización milenaria ISBN 978-3-8331-1959-0 . Se trata de un óleo sobre lienzo de autor desconocido que fue pintado presumiblemente en 1850. ¿Este tipo de trabajos pueden ser subidos a Commons o infrinjen los derechos de autor? (obvio del autor o editorial que publicó la foto en el libro). Si la respuesta es afirmativa, pues no tengo problema en que se borre; en caso contrario, pues la subiría a Wikipedia en el artículo Guerra de Castas. Gracias de antemano. Saludos --Jaontiveros (talk) 23:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Imagen S. perez-chiscanoi

Hola, Belgrano. Te escribo, como administrador que eres, por un problemilla que ha surgido con una foto que subí de una orquídea silvestre. El caso es que se ha eliminado porque en la descripción pongo que la subo con permiso del autor, pero no aporto ninguna prueba. Esto es absolutamente cierto, pero en verdad sí la publiqué con permiso, pues escribí al "Proyecto Orquídea Extremadura" para que me proporcionaran alguna foto. Envié un e-mail y me contestó uno de los participantes del proyecto, que me dió una dirección de un álbum en Picasa con fotos que podía utilizar ("las cuales puedes utilizar para ilustrar tu artículo y distribuir libremente"). Me preguntaba qué debo hacer para reunir las condiciones requeridas para restaurar el archivo si es que, de alguna forma, puedo demostrar que en efecto tengo permiso. Conservo los correos que intercambiamos y el enlace del cual obtuve las imágenes (aquí), aunque no sé hasta qué punto puedo utilizarlo como "prueba". He estado muy desenganchado de Wikipedia y no he podido intervenir antes del borrado. He llegado tarde. Ojalá encontremos una solución. ¡Muchas gracias!

Tardaré toda la Semana Santa en contestar, me temo, así que tómate el tiempo que necesites. Un saludo El tiu Cancho (talk) 23:15, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Fotos, derechos, etc...

Hola Belgrano, nos conocemos por aquellla discusion sobre la foto mia de Luis d'elia con Belgrano. Queria comunicarme con vos, sobre un tema de derechos, que tambien le pregunte a alakasam. Me interesaba ilustrar tramos de El Eternauta, con fotos de planos de buenos aires (como no se pueden subir cuadritos de la historieta, hay fotos de lugares donde se ambienta la historieta) uno de esos lugares en la union de la general paz y la avenida libertador, entre Vicente Lopez y Capital Federal, donde en 1957, tiempo de la ambientacion de la historieta, habia una fuente redonda, las vias, etc.

Bueno, en el sitio oficial de Buenos Aires, hay fotos aereas, de 1940, de la ciudad, y se ve perfectamente ese lugar. queria saber si habra problemas de derechos con seleccionar una de esas fotos de mas de 70 anhos de antiguedad. A vos que te parece? saludos--Pruxo (talk) 18:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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Deletion File:Jerusalem1783.png

Please for reasons of efficiency, don't argue, just delete it:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jerusalem1783.png

I would do it myself, if the authors of this page would not be as patronizing as they are.

--Platonykiss (talk) 13:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Hola!

Hola belgrano, queria agradecerte tus opiniones sobre el tema de la foto aerea. Creo que es una categoria incierta, y traeria problemas con algunos sobre si es o no es legar hacer uso de ella. Pienso en que si bien la foto es de 1940, y es una tipica foto de catastro, no se si se considera su publicacion como foto de la municipalidad como ¨publicacion¨etc... Por otro lado, creo que empezare a subir mis fotos, con mi nombre y apellido REAL en Flickr, asi ahi puedo ponerle los derechos, y figuro como autor, y no me hacen mas problemas sobre si es o no es mi foto. De esa manera me aseguro tener mi nombre ahi, aunque ceda su uso publico, y al mismo tiempo, habra un lugar donde siempre este la base de datos. Un saludo!--Pruxo (talk) 00:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

fotosde mas de 25 anhos en la argentina

Hola! Sobre fotos ya publicadas hace mas de 25 anhos en argentina, se puede "scannear" publicaciones de mas de 25 anhos de publicadas en la argentina, en lugar de sacarlas de internet? en ese caso, basta con citar el numero de la revista, el mes, y anho, para acreditar la fecha?--Pruxo (talk) 01:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

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Borrado de mensajes

Español: ¿Por qué borra mis avisos? ¿Tiene algún inconveniente con que la comunidad se entere de las decenas de fotos sin licencia adecuada que sube, incluso a pesar de ser administrador en Commons?

English: Why delete my ads? Do you have any problems with the community to know about the dozens of photos without proper license climbing, even though be an administrator on Commons? (autotranslate)

Ferbr1 (talk) 20:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Please do not remove warnings

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Ferbr1 (talk) 07:51, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Las políticas de Commons son las que son, y esto no es enwiki. Estás subiendo decenas de fotos sin una licencia o información adecuadas, y las experiencias anteriores demuestran que siempre que he marcado imágenes tuyas, acabaron borradas, y por decenas. Ya se te ha informado en el Café que tu "criterio" no es aceptable, y veo que porfiás. Deberías ser más cuidadoso y más respetuoso de las normas de la comunidad. Ya te he dejado dos enlaces específicos de Commons en los que, literalmente, se describe exactamente lo contrario a lo que estás haciendo en tu página de discusión, y me respondés haciendo una interpretación personalísima de los "problemas" de Commons (las políticas de Commons son "anticuadas", un gran argumento...), como si eso validara tus decisiones.

Estás acumulando decenas de violaciones a las políticas también aquí en Commons, con lo perjudicial que puede ser para el proyecto que alguien suba contenidos no libres. Por favor, no me obligues a tener que denunciarte, porque lo haré aquí también, con los perjuicios evidentes que eso podría ocasionarte. Ferbr1 (talk) 12:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Supongo que no tendrás problemas en traducir al inglés mis argumentos, ¿no? Escribiré que ya se te ha informado en un caso análogo que no podías actuar así, que ya te habías visto obligado a borrar imágenes en situación análoga hace unos meses, pero que aún así porfiás en tus acciones y esas cosas. Escribiré que no tenés constancia de que, efectivamente, esas fotografías fueron publicadas en la Argentina (por eso de que en el mundo hay muchos países y que los corresponsales exteriores no se inventaron el mes pasado). Como supongo que esta votación de borrado no es una maniobra para aprovechar mi desconocimiento del inglés, me imagino que no tendrás inconveniente en traducirme, ¿no? ¿O tendré que molestar a otra persona? Ferbr1 (talk) 11:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

FOP and Argentina

Re edit summary. Can you point me to the discussions please? Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 22:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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File:Expanded Buenos Aires Montage.JPG

Please do not remove the no source tag again unless you are able to provide sources for the images used in this compilation. I currently only see two sources, six more are needed. --Denniss (talk) 13:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Malvinas spanish locations.svg

Hello! I removed the Category:Location maps of South America because location maps are empty maps (no names in it) for the use in a template to show a dot or other sign via coordinates. This map has got geographical names in it and it is not used in a template. There is no map like this one in Category:Location maps (2008 standard), so this one should not be there, either. It is the wrong category. NNW (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Whiz2.JPG

[2].Hyju (talk) 20:33, 29 May 2010 (UTC) [3].Hyju (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

File:Maqueta_del_Tunel_Subfluvial.JPG

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Sheet music

Hi Belgrano. I really think you're wrong here. A musical composition is a copyrighted work of art, and making sheet music based on the composition creates a derivative work. Therefore the sheet music cannot be freely licensed unless the composition is either in the public domain or released under a free license. May I ask where you got the idea that musical notes are not protected by copyright? Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I think you've misunderstood. The composition is not an idea, concept or a principle illustrated in the work (ie. the recording). It's an actual, original work of authorship in exactly the same sense a text, a painting or a sculpture is. I've uploaded quite a few sheet music pages here, and if you look at the pages they always specify the copyright holder of the composition. That's separate from the copyright of the musical recording. Jafeluv (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

For the record, I've reverted your removal of the speedy tags. I have no intention to edit war over them, however. I'd just like another admin's opinion on this. Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm baffled to see that you think that there's nothing creative in selecting the order in which notes are played in a piece of music. A book is also a "list of universal concepts placed together" (a, b, c, d, etc.), but I don't think you'd argue that there's no creative input in which the letters are ordered in a work, or that the resulting text cannot be copyrighted unless it is read out loud by someone on record.

If you look at the section of US copyright law you cited, it clearly states that works of authorship include "(2) musical works, including any accompanying words" – note that sound recordings are a separate category (8) from this. Also, if you look at our licensing policy, it clearly states that the copyright of the composer as well as those of the lyricist, the performer and the recording company must all be respected. Jafeluv (talk) 06:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

That's a very interesting reading of the copyright law. Apparently when you talk about the "song", you mean the musical recording. However, it is completely possible to compose a song and publish it without making any kind of recording. Let's take a concrete example: They Didn't Believe Me 1.jpg. That's a publication of a piece of sheet music from 1914. As you can see, there's a copyright notice at the bottom: Copyright MCMXIV, Performing rights reserved. This is before any kind of recordings were made of the song. We would not be able to host the file on Commons if it wasn't for the fact that its copyright has expired. But there was a copyright restriction, and for sheet music that was published after 1923, that copyright is in most cases still in effect. Of course, you don't need to trust my word on the matter; for example, we could ask for the opinions of copyright experts at Commons talk:Licensing, if you'd like. Jafeluv (talk) 21:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: File:Buenos_Aires-Recoleta-P2090056.jpg

Buenas! Hay algo que no me queda claro; si el gobierno de la ciudad le paga al artista por una obra; quien tienen los derechos de difusion?

Por ejemplo: digamos que se levanta un edificio público (un anexo al Congreso, o algo por el estilo), está protegido por derechos? Tiene al arquitecto algun poder sobre las obras derivadas del mismo?

Es algo que no termino de entender. Otro ejemplo; me compro un cuadro de un pintor contemporaneo famoso; puedo vender fotos del cuadro? regalarlas?

Por ahi vos lo tenes mas claro, pero creo que es algo que se debería aclarar (y referenciar) bien antes de hacer una cruzada de borrado.

Saludos, MarianoC (talk) 06:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Un par de ejemplos de imagenes que no se nominaron para borrado, que caen por ahi en una zona mas gris:

File:20060128 - Puente de la Mujer (Puerto Madero, Buenos Aires).jpg, File:Puerto Madero DLightning.jpg. MarianoC (talk) 06:35, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Interferencias

Te pediría que, ya que hay tantísimos administradores aquí, te abstuvieras de decidir sobre propuestas mías, ya que creo que las denuncias mutuas que hubo en eswiki podrían interferir en tu "ecuanimidad". Vamos, por ética, es lo que haría yo si la situación fuera a la inversa. Ferbr1 (talk) 20:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Entonces hacé memoria, porque vos sí "interferiste" conmigo en otras ocasiones (por ejemplo, Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Felipe Pigna.jpg). Pero si un tratado de "no interferencia" te hace sentir más tranquilo, podemos ejercerlo de ahora en adelante. Esto quiere decir, yo no intervengo para nada en nada de lo que vos hagas, y vos hacés lo mismo. Este acuerdo involucraría a todos los proyectos en donde trabajamos. ¿Está bien así? Belgrano (talk) 01:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

No, lo que yo te he pedido, es que no intervengas en tanto administrador, es decir, que no cierres consultas de borrado mías y esas cosas. Todo lo demás, actuá de acuerdo a tu criterio, que yo haré lo propio. Ferbr1 (talk) 07:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Una ética bastante curiosa Belgrano (talk) 10:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Hola Belgrano

Mi nombre de usuario es pedrodecuba , escribi y publique aqui en wikipedia un articulo llamado Analisis de la Iglesia Catolica Cubana los Ultimos 15 anos.Pagina 1 a la 15, publique las paginas por separado pues no supe publicar todo el articulo junto ,necesito por favor me ayude a poner u organizar todas las 15 paginas en un solo articulo; categoria: trabajo propio; expandir del espanol, topico religion;fecha 06/28/2010. Le agradeceria su ayuda para publicar este articulo y hacerlo accesible a todos.Muchas Gracias.

File:Argentina-Holanda 1978.jpg ha sido listado en Commons:Deletion requests/File:Argentina-Holanda 1978.jpg. Si usted cree que esta imagen no debe ser suprimida, por favor exprese su opinión allí.

Ytoyoda (talk) 05:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

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High Contrast (talk) 20:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Lula - foto oficial05012007.jpg

English: Ricardo Stuckert is the official photographer of Presidency of the Federative Republic of Brazil. Ricardo did not photograph the Agency Brazil that a private company and belongs to EBC.

Péssima (talk) 19:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

File:Ruta_Sanmartiniana.JPG

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Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hola Belgrano

Hola. Me gustaría que dieses tu opinión en la discusión de borrado de mis dos últimas imágenes (puedes ver los mensajes con el enlace a la discusión al final de mi página de discusión).

Y otra cosa: ¿eres voluntario del OTRS? Luispihormiguero (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Muchas gracias, ¿pero podrías al menos decirme si eres voluntario en OTRS? Lo necesito saber. Luispihormiguero (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Vale, vale. Gracias de todas formas. Y gracias también sobre tus consejos de fotografía. Luispihormiguero (talk) 21:35, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators/Requests/Removal from office administrator to Belgrano

He propuesto la destituirte del cargo de administrador, por favor pásate por Commons:Administrators/Requests/Removal from office administrator to Belgrano. Espero que no intentes eliminar la página de la votación. --RoyFocker 12 (talk) 20:34, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Ocurrencia

¿Así que podrías haberme bloqueado vos mismo? Como se te ocurra hacerlo, nos veremos en Meta. Ferbr1 (talk) 12:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Ya que no dominás el idioma inglés, te aclaro: ese comentario sólo describía una situación hipotética. Belgrano (talk) 17:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

¿Vamos a ir a una mediación o lo resolvemos maduramente? Alakasam (talk) 19:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Ferbr, viendo rápidamente tus comentarios te quiero pedir que no busques sangre, no le hace bien al proyecto. No se si han tenido en el pasado algún problema personal. Si es así déjenlo afuera del proyecto. Realmente no veo razón para nominar esas imágenes. Casa segundo decenas de fotos copyvio son subidas, hay mucho trabajo. Alakasam (talk) 19:40, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Iosif Fazekas.jpg

That file is a duplicate of file Janos Fazekas.jpg. Iosif Fazekas is a wrong name, the real name is Janos Fazekas. Please, delete Iosif Fazekas. Cezarika1 (talk) 12:48, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

File:The Last Samurai animatronic horse.jpg

Hi! I have seen (by chance) that you have removed the copyvio because it is not a sculpture. That is true, but I think its still a copyvio because I doubt {{Own}} as one can see that it is a screenshot of a movie (probably the bonus on the DVD of the last samurai). cheers, Amada44  ^{talk to me} 13:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

This seems like an object in the backstage, rather than a screenshot of a movie itself, so it's not unlikely (hard, yes, but impossible) for a common person to be aroun it and take a photo. In any case, it's speedy deletion if the source is provided, if the image may be a copyright violation it should go to deletion request Belgrano (talk) 19:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

there it is. Amada44  ^{talk to me} 06:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Bandera Villahermosa del Campo

Que se pueda encontrar en muchos sitios no elimina los legítimos derechos de autor. Es un símbolo que tiene derechos de autor y estos, seguramente, los ostenta el ayuntamiento. Sin embargo hay una descripción vexilologica que nos ayudará a crear una versión vectorial mucho mejor que esta que es un archivo jpg no muy reescalable. Saludos. Miguel Ángel "fotógrafo" (talk) 22:22, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

to be deleted

File:600px Bianco Crociato di Verde Avellino 2.png = File:600px Verde Crociato di Bianco Avellino 2.png (deleted). Bye, --Kuviz (talk) 10:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)