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Template protection after reviewEdit

There are many country specific copyright templates on commons that need review and should be protected thereafter. Many images on commons use these templates and changing something in the template like accidentally adding a hot cat category would affect all of these and would require mass purging for all images. We should have a review department reviewing each available template and after discussion protecting it. We should discuss the layout of PD templates: Should they include why they are PD in the USA or should this be handled in another template like {{PD-Egypt}} and {{PD-Egypt-1996}}. With the URAA laws the copyright laws of a country doesn't mean that much without an explanation on why they are PD in USA. Something like {{PD-China}} doesn't work for commons because it doesn't specify why it's PD USA. And should there be templates for country specific templates for each case like found in Category:Egypt-related tags? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diaa abdelmoneim (talk • contribs) 14:06, 2009 April 23 (UTC)

நான் சொந்தமாக எடுத்து இணைக்கும் படங்கள் எந்த வகையில் Copyright violations ஆகிறது?Edit

நான் சொந்தமாக எடுத்து இணைக்கும் படங்களை ஏன் நீங்கள் நீக்குகிறீர்கள். அவை எந்த வகையில் Copyright violations ஆகிறது. புதிதாக யாரும் கட்டுரையோ படங்களையோ இணைக்கூடாது என்று நினைக்கிறீர்களா? எங்களுக்கு வேறு வேலை வெட்டி இல்லை என்றா நினைத்துக்கொண்டு இருக்கிறீர்கள்.... நீங்கள் அனுப்பிய இந்த செய்திக்கு என்ன பொருள். எதற்க்காக last warning. உடன் பதிலை சொல்லுங்கள் திரு. ஆலன்O.

"Hello Velu66. It has come to our attention that you have uploaded several files that are copyright violations. You have done so despite requests from editors not to do so, and despite their instructions. See Commons:Licensing for the copyright policy on Wikimedia Commons. You may also find Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter useful.

This is your last warning. Continuing to upload copyright violations will result in your account being blocked. Please leave me a message if you have further questions."

Creative commons sectionEdit

If I might make a suggestion for this page, as an editor I would find it a lot easier to digest the information about Creative Commons licensing if it were presented in a more visual, iconographic way. I find the explanation on the Upload work from Flickr tool really clear, as it requires less ploughing through text. If it could be expanded/adapted for this page, it would help editors greatly. Cnbrb (talk) 12:55, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@Cnbrb: Agreed! As an irregularly-active editor, I don't have all the CC licenses memorized. Which licenses are (or are not) allowed should be clearly displayed here on this official policy page so I and others don't have to spend 5 minutes digging to figure out if, for example, Attribution-NoDerivs is allowable. --NoGhost (talk) 18:31, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
@NoGhost: No, Attribution-NoDerivs is NOT allowed here. All allowed licenses must explicitly allow derivatives and commercial use.   — Jeff G. ツ 01:46, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Haha, yes I figured that out for the time-being. My point is that the next time I might want to upload something, perhaps a month or more from now, I won't remember this and will have to spend yet another 5 minutes digging through unhelpful sections to find what should be clear and well-defined policy. I can't think of any reason why an easy-to-understand graph explaining CC licenses shouldn't be included here for those editors (like me) who are less than active! --NoGhost (talk) 02:37, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
@NoGhost: Do you mean something like Commons:Copyright tags#Free Creative Commons licenses or Commons:Creative Commons copyright tags?   — Jeff G. ツ 03:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
As I mentioned above, something like the presentation style of Upload work from Flickr would be very helpful. Also, it should not be buried away in some obscure policy page, it should be right there on the Special:UploadWizard Upload Wizard so editors can consult it immediately instead of having to hunt for it. Cnbrb (talk) 16:47, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
So is anybody able to do this? I would offer to work on it but I don't think my copyright knowledge is strong enough to make a good job of it. I'm pasting the code below - this is specific to Flickr, so it will need to be adapted. If someone could please review it and make use of it, that would be really great for all editors. @NoGhost: @Jeff G.: Cnbrb (talk) 12:32, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Statement on image page. License OK here?
© All rights reserved Unlicensed   NOT OK
    Some rights reserved CC-BY-NC-ND   NOT OK
    Some rights reserved CC-BY-NC-SA   NOT OK
   Some rights reserved CC-BY-NC   NOT OK
   Some rights reserved CC-BY-ND   NOT OK
  Some rights reserved CC-BY   OK
   Some rights reserved CC-BY-SA   OK
No known copyright restrictions. Public Domain   OK
@Cnbrb, NoGhost: I reworked it as follows.   — Jeff G. ツ 14:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Creative Commons license icons and names Abbreviations & versions OK here?
  Zero Public Domain, "No Rights Reserved" CC0   OK
  Attribution CC-BY (1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0)   OK
  Attribution-NonCommercial CC-BY-NC (1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0)   NOT OK
  Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs CC-BY-NC-ND (2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0)   NOT OK
  Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike CC-BY-NC-SA (1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0)   NOT OK
  Attribution-NoDerivs CC-BY-ND (1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0)   NOT OK
  Attribution-NoDerivs-NonCommercial CC-BY-ND-NC (1.0)   NOT OK
  Attribution-ShareAlike CC-BY-SA (1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 4.0)   OK


@Jeff G.:, that's fantastic, thank you! That was quite a bit of work, I really appreciate your contribution! If I can make a suggestion, the icons are a bit small to read - could we maybe stretch to 100x35px?   Cnbrb (talk) 15:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Cnbrb: sure, 35px high rows it is, I copied from the previous table, which didn't have icons with much to read.   — Jeff G. ツ 15:37, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jeff G.:, great stuff, thanks again! So have we covered all the CC scenarios appropriate for this page? I think we should insert this into the main project page, in the Acceptable licenses section. The cartoons are cute, but we may have to shuffle them around to accommodate this table, as I think this is more important. Cnbrb (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Cnbrb: Exactly how would you change the structure of the project page to accommodate this table? I envision a "Creative Commons licenses" section near the bottom, linked from the "Well-known licenses" subsection.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:06, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I reckon this is really essential information and should be near the top in the first section where the reader can at once refer to it when trying to find out if an image is allowed or not. I think this is the key goal for reading this page. Maybe it would sit naturally in the Well-known licenses section? When I mention layout, I was really concerned about a table sitting next to right-aligned images and crashing into them! Cnbrb (talk) 16:28, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi again @Jeff G.:, I have inserted your recommended table into the main page. Feel free to revert if it's not quite right yet. Thanks   Cnbrb (talk) 13:09, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Just a thought. Would you not consider it a better layout to move "by-sa" up to position #3 so all the acceptable and non-acceptable licenses are grouped together? Otherwise it looks great. Ww2censor (talk) 13:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Sure, seems like a good idea. I'll make the adjustment. Cnbrb (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your help & collaboration on this everyone. I think it makes the page easier to refer to when the prose is supported by simple, tabular information and a few relevant CC symbols to assist rapid identification of licenses. There are other license symbols that could possibly be added, for example   the GNU, and   Art Libre... but as this isn't my area of expertise, I'll stop here. Maybe other editors will want to add to this. Cnbrb (talk) 15:15, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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