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Notice If you want to see Python source code that supports some of my projects, go to Github and help yourself. The code is not written with reuse in mind... -- (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2018 (UTC)



Thank you!Edit

Dear Fæ,

I just wanted to say ‘Thank you!’ for your incredible restless work, which saves millions of images, many of them very valuable, for the benefit of all of us and maybe even for the benefit of future generations.

Thank you very much! --Aristeas (talk) 14:58, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! -- (talk) 09:04, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations 🎉, againEdit

I just saw that you had passed the six million edit mark, I think that probably almost half free files on Wikimedia Commons were uploaded by you.     --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (Talk 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:55, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Original Barnstar
Hello Fæ! I recently found the large and very important collections of artworks you've uploaded by George Cruikshank and Gustave Doré. I had to buy books of their works when I was studying illustration, satirical art, and life art in college, and what you've uploaded for free use is much more extensive and larger with more detail. As an artist, being able to download and examine these works is really priceless! I put Cruikshank on the high level of William Hogarth, and Doré really has no equal, especially in the beautiful, painstaking detail of his backgrounds. His London series alone is so full of detail I'll probably spend months on them. You uploaded some works by Hablot K. Browne too, the illustrator of several Dickens novels, and a very interesting and talented artist in his own right. I also downloaded the Hogarth and Bruegel collections. I'll be poring over these for years, and it's only a 5 gig collection all told. Thanks so much for these hugely valuable artworks. Anyone who says Commons is crap has to be an absolute philistine...   Jenny 04:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback! It's encouraging to read of how some of the images I upload are so useful for research, and enjoyed.   -- (talk) 09:14, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Library of Congress mapsEdit

CIA map of Congo-Zaire boundary, 1972

Somebody just posted this zoomable detailed birds-eye view of Liverpool onto my twitter feed, which I thought was rather nice. (Nicer and nicer, the more you zoom in, in fact):

I think quite a lot of LoC maps have been uploaded over the years; and I see you've uploaded a lot of their prints and photographs.

Not that you're probably looking for a project, but would it be good to upload the whole lot of the LoC's online maps (about 27,000 ), less those we have already?

They look like they have a certain amount of cataloguing exposed on the website, that might go quite a way towards categorisation. Jheald (talk) 19:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into it, maybe Tuesday. It is a bit constraining to try on a mobile. -- (talk) 20:08, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Started looking at this. I think it's a separate project from the LOC prints project due to the nature of the new website and iterative items, i.e. not just zoomable maps but atlases as books with images in a gallery. LOC seems to have no collection ID but relies on subject terms, but this needs some analysis on the JSON output to work out the best approach.
No especial hurry, so this is something I'll poke at in slow time, probably creating a project page when I start getting in to it. -- (talk) 10:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

I have got as far as the initial query loop and parsing. There are 27,199 items with 17,928 being single images. I'll probably set up the single images for uploads as they can sit in a bucket category. The other items will probably all need auto-categorization, which will need much more effort to make "non-controversial".

Now running, project page will be at User:Fæ/LOC maps. All uploads via the iiif service will be selected as PNG. Getting 503 errors at the moment (technical difficulties), this may or may not be transient. -- (talk) 20:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

@Jheald: Is there a visual mapping tool that can take the Commons image as a zoomable overly while you pin it to a current map? I know I can do this with OSM, but it's too fiddly to be practical as a way to find the coords of an old map. -- (talk) 07:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes there is, the Wikimaps Warper.
See eg File:Portsmouth point OS25 inch to mile1858.PNG for a map where it has been done -- follow the link in the button at the bottom, which is provided by {{map}}; or File:Map of Africa from Encyclopaedia Britannica 1890.jpg for a map which has been uploaded to the warper, but not yet warped.
It's a bit clunky (or was, the last time I looked at it a couple of years ago), because first one has to install a copy of the map image in the map warper's own private filespace.
Also note that it's a slow old process adding the coordinates to a large number of maps -- of 50,000 maps found in the BL 19th century book images on Flickr, it's taken three years to georeference 60% (progress page), and that's using the BL's georeferencer which is a bit slicker. Plus even with the coordinates it can still be tricky to identify what the map is actually of, especially for things like railways, rivers, battlefields, or pages out of larger map-books (see Category:MC_upload_prep_pages for UK state of play).
But I do think it is something well worth linking up, and encouraging people to do. Jheald (talk) 08:27, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
I recall playing with it a while back, but it looks little different now. Unfortunately clunky, and the OAuth login for Commons fails to work for me today in Chrome, even though my OSM account does. In theory Google Earth has a neat interface for zooming/rotating overlays (and I assume that is still available), but my old macmini is a bit slow for it. -- (talk) 09:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

File:Noah Silliman 2016-11-02 (Unsplash).jpgEdit

Request: John Margolies Roadside America Photograph Archive from LoCEdit

Hi, and thanks for adding so many images from the Library of Congress! When you are free, would it be possible to add a script to pull in the items from the LoC for the John Margolies Roadside America Photograph Archive, which were digitized in 2016? I have pulled some into a new category by the same name, but I imagine the script would be much more efficient and consistent. I created an article for Margolies last week and was quailing at the thought of going through his photographs and trying to upload them one-by-one.

Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 15:15, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Additional stray thought: since the curators have been very good about adding the city and state to the title of these scans, would it be possible to automatically add a category of something like "Buildings in ___, ___" by searching the title text string for the second comma from the right? Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 15:29, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I'll take a look, though if I fail to spend much time on this in the next few days, the window for doing these things may slip by several weeks. -- (talk) 10:41, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
@Mliu92: I started drafting a test, but for several days the LOC servers are not working properly for iiif services (the stuff that renders images on request). This could be worked around, but I don't want to re-invent the wheel for a third time unless the service is permanently broken. I'll probably try analysing this again in a couple of weeks. -- (talk) 16:24, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@: No rush; I appreciate your help with this. The entire subject of vernacular architecture is fascinating, and there is enough in there (along with the flickr album which has been previously partially transferred to Commons [it appears the flickr account manager added to the album after the initial transfer]) to adequately illustrate the concepts. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

@Mliu92: Upload run started, it will be a slow run of perhaps 1 per minute, so no need to panic about flooding. Slowness is partly a regular bounce issue where the WMF Commons API appears to not see the uploaded file for a few seconds, so upload verification keeps trying; this might be down to the old code I'm recycling and was later fixed, but I'm saving on my volunteer time by leaving it because it still works. There is a small bug causing the adapted old routine I'm using to skip the first gallery page (100 images), hopefully I'll return to it. Duplicates will be skipped. As I am not attempting to add any automated date or location categories, I'm guessing you will be interested in working on these using catalot later as part of your interest in curating the collection.  

This search will list new files as part of the batch upload.

I have re-examined the geographic data available, and the MODS data has entries in the format:

<country>United States</country>
<state>New York (State)</state>

However putting 500 or 1000 photographs in the top level State category would be considered flooding, and to match "Franklin, New York" to the nearest category of Category:Franklin County, New York, would be a difficult and inconsistent mapping process as our categories on Commons are not consistent. For these reasons I've skipped investing time in it. Where I have done this in the past, such as at Category:Sanborn maps, we had the freedom to create new categories which could be automatically named in a fully logical fashion. Again, the best option is probably to run searches for county/state in the source text within the bucket category and then manually sort them out with catalot in large batches.

Long term project page at User:Fæ/LOC#John_Margolies_Roadside_America_Photograph_Archive_(mrg). -- (talk) 12:17, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


Jahobr (talk) 23:57, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

File:The Canadian field-naturalist (1982) (19899824613).jpgEdit

Flickr imagesEdit

I've started a conversation with an Australian Flickr user who says he has no interest in restricting use of his images which all currently seem to be ARR and CC-nc. He has uploaded over 40,000 images so is this something you can do, and if so how do we review them so they can be categorised properly? I presume we would need to start at least one, if not more, special categories at upload time and also ask Australian editors to assist in reviewing. There don't seem to be any coordinates though many images have town names which may help. He also says he has tif versions of almost everything, though getting those from him would be a big ask and probably not worthwhile. Please advise when you have time. Ww2censor (talk) 10:13, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ww2censor: This would only be possible if the photographer agrees to the Commons upload as being CC-BY-SA or even less restricted like CC-BY, this could be a special agreement via email and logged on OTRS even if nothing changes on Flickr. If the ARR or NC restrictions stay in place, then they cannot be uploaded to Commons.
Checking a couple of examples, some titles are problematic, which could be automatically changed, though the titles are not all specific or useful. It is a pity that the photographs are not in more albums, I only see one. I have yet to see any copyright issues.
The upload could be filtered on certain text criteria, or even on Flickr tags if any are relevant.
I have some Flickr upload scripts that can be tailored, so long as it's a 30,000+ project it would seem worth it. The upload can all get put in the same bucket category, unless there are some highly obvious categories that can be automated. It is likely that some clever person will make the bucket category hidden within a few hours of it being created, unfortunately this means that some unagreed bot will then rapidly mark all the uploads as uncategorized. Something to think about, but not necessarily a deal-breaker so long as volunteer categorisers are actively working on the upload.
Let me know if you make progress. I'm fairly busy with a backlog, but if you are asking in a few weeks time, and expect it to take at least a week to complete, that should be fine. -- (talk) 11:35, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
The Flickr user has agreed to change the licences to cc-by-sa, so I hope they will follow through. I don't know where you were seeing just one album because I see about 200 albums here which seems like a decent amount with a modest quantity of images in each album though about 12 albums have between 1200-4000+ images. I suspect a category should be made for the Flickr user's image as well as a "to be reviewed" category. Is that the best way or do you have other ideas. Thanks in advance. Ww2censor (talk) 22:15, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
I am unsure why I could not see the albums before, I must have been looking at the wrong filter. Having albums gives alternative options for titles and category mapping. Yes, I would put them all in a bucket category based on the promise that volunteers will do the categorization. -- (talk) 08:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm investigating this further with the Flickr user and think, as he is quite elderly and may find it difficult to relicence all his images, that an OTRS permission will be best in the long run as it may also cover future images. I'm seeking advise from an admin friend and will move on from there and let you know when you might be able to proceed. Thanks for the advise. Ww2censor (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Operation Northern Strike 2014 140807-Z-GS745-1243.jpgEdit

File:Official portrait of Rory Stewart.jpgEdit

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File:Official portrait of Rory Stewart crop 3.jpgEdit

File:Curvy glass building exterior (Unsplash).jpgEdit

Brownlee Collection at Marlborough Museum - Marlborough Historical Society IncEdit


Dear Fæ: A new article about the en:Brownlee Tramway (Marlborough) lacks photographs. I found a set of 252 delightful historic photos, all older than 1955, from what I could see when flicking through all of them. The thumbnails are clean, but the enlargements are watermarked. I am thinking of uploading the enlargement and than putting the thumbnail on top of it. Are you interested in writing a script, or should I upload 2-3 of the best photos for the article manually? --NearEMPTiness (talk) 06:23, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I have had a quick look at the site. I'm going to no bid on automation, firstly because as you highlighted there are a couple of hundred files and normally my break-even point on volunteer time is several thousand unless there's a script I can easily recycle. The second point is that I am initially uncertain about copyright. These look likely to be public domain, but there are claims of copyright that need to be considered under NZ law and if we host the files the rationale for ignoring those claims needs to be clear. -- (talk) 08:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for having reviewed my request. I fully appreciate your answers and will look out for a more interesting and more rewarding project. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 19:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

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