Commons:Requests and votes/Elcobbola
Elcobbola
- Support = 10; Oppose = 1; - 90% Result: Promoted. There is obvious support here and I find it hard to consider an oppose based on age all that convincing. I would ask that you take it easy to start with but that would be my advice to any new admin. Thanks for helping --Herby talk thyme 12:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Closing no earlier than 00:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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It's my pleasure to nominate Elcobbola for adminship. I'm sure many regulars will have encountered the candidate in the past - (s)he has done a lot of excellent work in and around various admin noticeboards, the village pump, etc. (S)he participates in deletion requests, making knowledgeable copyright-based arguments on both sides of the fence. Elcobbola's knowledge of copyrights is excellent - so much so that (s)he works as the unofficial image-copyright-checker at EnWP's featured article candidates - not entirely relevant to Commons, but an example of how (s)he is trusted, committed, and fit for the job. What other criteria are there? giggy (:O) 04:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- I accept. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 00:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Votes
- Support as nom. giggy (:O) 04:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support of course. Rocket000 (talk) 00:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support - Not as many deleted contribs as I'd like, and a very short talk page, but seems to be doing good work, and I trust giggy's judgement. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support I have to agreed with Mattbuck about the deleted edits, but I belive I can trust the user with the tools. --Kanonkas(talk) 04:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose (too young) Mutter Erde (talk) 09:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- File:Joe facepalm.jpg Facepalm. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 23:39, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of an age requirement... I'm only 12. Rocket000 (talk) 00:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC) Just in case anyone believes that, I was joking. I'm well above 12 (age-wise anyway ;) Rocket000 (talk) 15:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support I agree with giggy. --Jacopo Werther (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Fairly low on the edit count - but seems to know what they are talking about most of the time. --ShakataGaNai Talk 00:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 02:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support adding comment below. Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support --MichaelMaggs (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support a good fit all around. Durova (talk) 23:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Comments
- Question "Maps are generally not eligible for copyright" -- mmm? Are you going to break the news to the Ordnance Survey or shall I? Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 23:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- I (deliberately) did not use sufficient specificity in the hopes I would be able to elaborate when/if split. The data underlying most maps (in this case, distribution of populace) are generally considered common/public information. The concept was adjudicated in Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service. Maps, further, are generally considered "useful articles" (see COM:DW). Per Title 17, such data can become copyrightable as compilations (i.e. maps), but this is when, in so doing, creative aspects such as colorization, graphics (e.g. in the key), etc. are added. In the case pertaining to the linked quote, the visual representation was the author's unique input (the map from which it was derived served, presumably, as the data source). As a technical matter, I wasn't entirely correct due to, again, my lack of specificity; saying "The data underlying maps are generally not eligible for copyright" would have been better, but I assumed the totality of my comment (which you did not reproduce here) would have been sufficient to understand or implicate in the indication that the issue has additional complexities. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 01:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- In some countries maps are subject for copyrights (Russia, Belarus, etc). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- The source of the map(s) being discussed indicates publication in New York, thus the application of United States law in this scenario. Other countries, of course, may or may not differ. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 15:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- In some countries maps are subject for copyrights (Russia, Belarus, etc). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- I (deliberately) did not use sufficient specificity in the hopes I would be able to elaborate when/if split. The data underlying most maps (in this case, distribution of populace) are generally considered common/public information. The concept was adjudicated in Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service. Maps, further, are generally considered "useful articles" (see COM:DW). Per Title 17, such data can become copyrightable as compilations (i.e. maps), but this is when, in so doing, creative aspects such as colorization, graphics (e.g. in the key), etc. are added. In the case pertaining to the linked quote, the visual representation was the author's unique input (the map from which it was derived served, presumably, as the data source). As a technical matter, I wasn't entirely correct due to, again, my lack of specificity; saying "The data underlying maps are generally not eligible for copyright" would have been better, but I assumed the totality of my comment (which you did not reproduce here) would have been sufficient to understand or implicate in the indication that the issue has additional complexities. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 01:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm curious to see where I've ever indicated my age to be either young or otherwise. I am, in fact, more than twice the age of Giggy, a sysop and 'crat. How old should I be? ЭLСОВВОLД talk 01:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Protip: Susan.jpg. Also, thanks for your clarification. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 02:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm 16 for the record. O hai. giggy (:O) 05:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- The point is that you must be old enough to either
- Find her attractive legitimately.
- Get drunk enough to find her attractive. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Know of better places to go for porn than Commons. Rocket000 (talk) 15:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Considering that I'm a heterosexual female, I doubt I'll ever qualify by those standards. Possibly when I get old enough to develop cataracts and not know the difference anymore, but then I wouldn't be good for much else at Commons...? Durova (talk) 23:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- The point is that you must be old enough to either
- I'm 16 for the record. O hai. giggy (:O) 05:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Assuming good faith the comment too young could mean that the user feel that the candidate has too little experience from Commons. The candidate is indeed low on editcount and hasn't contributed actively for a very long time, but seems to know what they're doing and definitely trustworthy. ...and now let's leave Susan out of this please... Finn Rindahl (talk) 23:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, this is Mutter Erde's crusade for Susan.jpg. Trust me. And Facepalm again. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 07:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Regardless, I think it best we drop this. Mutter Erde is aware of the community's thoughts on his RfA participation and I think it best we leave it at that. giggy (:O) 07:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, this is Mutter Erde's crusade for Susan.jpg. Trust me. And Facepalm again. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 07:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Protip: Susan.jpg. Also, thanks for your clarification. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 02:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)