AndreyKva
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edithi, i recognized some changes on svgs you have done - optimizing with svgomg - i have some questions - i am from germany - do you speak german? --Mrmw (talk) 18:37, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi there. I'm afraid I don't speak a word of German, but I'd be happy to help regardless if I can. What do you need? AndreyKva (talk) 03:03, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- @AndreyKva: you optimize svgs with svgomg
- in inkscape there is a filetype for saving called 'optimized svg' - not 'plain' or 'compressed svg'
- do you know this?
- my question is - is there a big difference in the code as result between editing with svgomg or saving in inkscape as 'optimized svg'?
- greets and thx --Mrmw (talk) 06:45, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hey,
- I don't have any experience with Inkscape, I'm afraid. I don't know much about SVGs at all, frankly. I just put SVGs into SVGOMG, and it comes out smaller and without any quality loss, and I put them up here sometimes. I don't know anything else about that, sorry. AndreyKva (talk) 09:52, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your pointed out, that's so powerful. --Great Brightstar (talk) 13:38, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- @AndreyKva and Great Brightstar: Optimizating with SVG-Optimizers are often not seen very gladly, because:
- Every Re-Upload needs space (even if you reduce the file-size)
- You are tickling many watchlists
- Sometimes Optimizers break things, see e.g. https://github.com/svg/svgo/issues
- Sometimes you don't break the file, but it is not rendered correcly any more, e.g. File:US_insular_areas.svg
- Even if you don't break things, you might remove important Editor-features see e.g. User:JoKalliauer/Optimization#invalid_elements_that_should_be_kept
- If you use optimizers you should imho understand and know the risks mentioned in User:JoKalliauer/Optimization (maybe not all of them, but in generall)
- If you use svgo (or SVGOMG) you should imho change your default settings, see User:JoKalliauer/Optimization#svgo
- Generally I would say if you cannot read SVG-source-code you might should not optimize foreign SVG-files, because you e.g. might delete invisible/hidden comments/layers/features in the code, which are important for editing.
- since SVG-Rendering is complicated, you should "always", test the file before uploading on Commons:Commons_SVG_Checker
- @Mrmw: I think you already know it anyway, but in Help:Inkscape#Inkscape_SVG_vs._Plain_SVG the difference explained.
- Inkscape SVG: Save all inkscape-features
- plain SVG: without Editor-features
- optimized SVG: means optimized with scour, which is a similar program as svgo (or SVGOMG...svgo's Missing GUI)
- compressed SVG: means it is compress with gzip, SVG ist a text-file, if you zip/gzip it you save disk-space, but it is not a text-file any more (only after un(g)ziping) and can't be uploaded here
- — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 10:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, guess I won't do it anymore then. AndreyKva (talk) 10:23, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @AndreyKva and Great Brightstar: Optimizating with SVG-Optimizers are often not seen very gladly, because:
- Thanks for your pointed out, that's so powerful. --Great Brightstar (talk) 13:38, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
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